१५ एप्रिल, २०२४

They chant it before they know what it means. Then someone asks what it means. And they chant it again when they know what it means.


The linked Free Press article is "American Anti-War Activists Cheer for Iran’s War/At a left-wing conference in Chicago, activists believe Iran is 'part of the arc of resistance because the enemies are Israel and the USA.'"
“It’s really inspiring to see that people are just as enthusiastic, and maybe even more enthusiastic, to march on the DNC as they are to march on the RNC,” says Omar Florez, a Milwaukee-based activist. “We can thank Genocide Joe and our movement for that.”...

Earlier that day, before news of [Iran's attack on Israel] broke, at a “breakout session” on “the anti-war movement,” Shabbir Rizvi, an organizer with Anti-War Committee Chicago, taught participants how to chant “death to Israel” and “death to America” in Farsi.

“Marg bar Israel,” he chanted, leading a group of about 80 attendees along with him. A man draped in a Soviet flag bearing a gold hammer and sickle clapped his hands.

A man in a full black denim outfit shouted out behind his N95—“Can we get a ‘marg bar America’?”

“We can get a ‘marg bar America,’ ” Rizvi replied.

Then Rizvi raised his hand in the air, leading the crowd like a conductor.

“Marg bar America,” they cheered.....

८० टिप्पण्या:

Achilles म्हणाले...

<a href="https://twitter.com/Rob_LLAP/status/1779738546577789160>The people of Iran want peace.</a>

The people in the US want Peace.

The people of Israel want to exist.

The Biden Regime, the shitheads that support it, and the Mullahs want war.

Biden told Iran through Turkey the attack was OK but to keep it reasonable. Just like he told Putin to keep his invasion of Ukraine limited.

If you support the Biden Regime You are just a horrible person. Grab on to an airplane wing as the plane takes off. You are just a bunch of warmongering evil shitheads. Nobody likes you. You can go join your Nevertrump neocon buddies and just leave. Go anywhere else. You are scum. Just go.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

@Althouse, they’re your people, you and the rest of the Lefty Elitists. You figure out what to do with them.

Wince म्हणाले...

It's '68 all over again. RFK, Chicago, "anti-war" activists...

A Trump campaign ad?

RCOCEAN II म्हणाले...

OMG, they want death to America. LOL. It reminded me of an SNL skit.

Talk about absurd. Talk about propaganda. I'm shocked they didn't call these people "White Supremists" and claim they supported Trump, Putin and Hitler.

If these people are learning to chant "Down with Israel" its because Israel is committing Genocide and destroying Gaza. The MSM and the "liberal Establishment" don't want to talk about that, instead they want to focus on October 7th or how people are chanting "death to America" or "Down with America" (it has two meanings).

Zionists use the same technique that Leftists use. No criticism of Israel is legitimate. Every Israeli action (no matter how criminal or immoral) is never disavowed or apologized for Instead they defend by attacking those telling the truth. Usually with insults and name calling but also by changing the subject to "Oy vey, Israel is the real victim". The response is always framed to exclude what terrible things the Israeli Government is doing.

Anyway, the dumb Fox viewers will eat this up. Why them damn Leftists are chantin' "Death to America" why we need to "stand By Israel". Mike Pence will be very concerned.

robother म्हणाले...

Just a bunch of Anti-war activists, all they are saying, is give peace a chance. Now, Christian Nationalists. They're the real danger.

mezzrow म्हणाले...

Let them speak in any language they choose, and let us know exactly what they believe. That's what America stands for.

I note the fellow standing up gets exempted from wearing a mask. Why?

I assume mask-wearing must be mandatory at this meeting for health reasons in close quarters, unless people just want to hide their faces. Perhaps I'm exercising reason where none exists. Maybe this is all about a belief system and rituals.

Iman म्हणाले...

They are leftists. Being anti-American and full of shit is all a part of the packaged deal.

Enigma म्हणाले...

As with dramatic tragedies in fiction, one can often predict what will happen in Act 3 while watching Act 1 or Act 2. In fiction they call it foreshadowing. In real life just "believe the words that come from their mouths."

We are facing an earthshaking US and global political realignment over the next generation at best. However, rampant terrorism, a decisive and destructive war, or outright genocide are strong probabilities too.

Unknown म्हणाले...

They're not anti-war, they're anti-American, as well as anti-Semitic.

Aggie म्हणाले...

I'm noting a resurgence of mask-wearing amongst the fashionable-Protestista class these days, usually in black. Is it a new secret signal? Is it face-covering to complicate identification, Antifa wannabe's? Or is it just a common personality trait, asserting itself?

If the latter, it's a little ironic to me - wearing a 'proven-useless' face covering against a man-made social contagion, and likely man-made virus, while chanting 'Death To...(name your subject)', to reinforce one's disconnect to reality. Shouldn't they be chanting 'Death to Virus Mongers' instead?

If Iran attacks again they should consider delivering another 'Rods from God' message, like they did a few years ago.

Readering म्हणाले...

Can't remember last time I saw so many masks. Covid or cops?

Rusty म्हणाले...

They're activists, just not antiwar activists. I wonder how the Teamster rank and file feel about their headquarters being used as a riot training ground?
More proof that leftist are a brain dead mob. I think I saw one woman in the group with her finger up her nose. To the second knuckle. How many are from Massachusetts? A lot I guess.

Lilly, a dog म्हणाले...

In the article is this little nugget:
"A woman in a hot pink gas mask, wielding a matching neon cane and dressed in a “Protect Trans Kids” t-shirt, throws her fist in the air. Nearby, a service poodle is taking a nap under the chair of his owner, who is wearing a leather harness over his t-shirt."

Isn't it bliss?
Don't you approve?
One who keeps tearing around,
One who can't move,
Where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns

CJinPA म्हणाले...

If you chant "Death" to my country, I want you out of my country. I never thought I'd be compelled to write that, or that it would have to be said, but I stand by it.

No citizen of any country has to tolerate open calls to destroy their nation.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

I assume mask-wearing must be mandatory at this meeting for health reasons in close quarters, unless people just want to hide their faces.

@mezzrow, no, they aren’t wearing masks for health reasons.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Look at the morons still wearing masks.

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

Farsi is all good in Iran, but why not go full-on with Arabic?

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

The language translation means "death to." The

But the possible "down with" interpretation provides plausible deniability.

Oligonicella म्हणाले...

... activists believe Iran is 'part of the arc of resistance because the enemies are Israel and the USA.'"

Some people use any stretch of the imagination for self-justification.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

They don't realize that the elderly part of the Iran population has an average IQ of 105, which makes them evil white men.

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

Big Mike said...

[I assume mask-wearing must be mandatory at this meeting for health reasons in close quarters, unless people just want to hide their faces.]

"@mezzrow, no, they aren’t wearing masks for health reasons."

Yep, all black masks.

Michael Fitzgerald म्हणाले...

Democrat Party members chanting Death To America is the logical progression of the anti-American Democrat Party's multi-generational assault on the American Experiment.

Captain BillieBob म्हणाले...

What's with the Teamsters allowing insurrectionists to organize in their facility.
That's a fine looking group of losers right there.
Try shouting death to Iran in Iran and see what that gets ya. Losers.

Dan from Madison म्हणाले...

I see someone finally found a use for his Persian Studies degree.

Mr. O. Possum म्हणाले...

To understand the Arab mind, read the much hated book "The Arab Mind" by Raphael Patai.

Here is a taste.

From an essay linked above, not the book....

"The Arab world never passed through these historic, intellectual movements [the Enlightenment, the Renaissance, the Scientific Revolution, and the Reformation]. Hence, in addition to reasoned analysis, thought processes rely heavily on emotions, hopes and fears. In Understanding Arabs, Margaret Nydell, professor of Arabic at Georgetown University states: “While objectivity is given considerable emphasis in Western culture, the opposite is true in Arab culture…Westerners are taught that objectivity, the examination of facts in a logical way without the intrusion of emotional bias is the mature and constructive approach to human affairs…Arabs believe differently.” Nydell continues: “Arabs consciously reserve the right to look at the world in a subjective way, particularly if a more objective assessment of a situation would bring to mind a too-painful truth.”

Douglas B. Levene म्हणाले...

I love how the anti-Israel and anti-US countries have labeled their alliance the “Axis of Resistance.” They apparently have zero self-awareness. Let’s hope they meet the fate of the last century’s Axis.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

It might be a Jewish fabric merchant thing, the great satin.

"Here's where the ethics come in. Should I tell my partner?"

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

There is a large Fifth Column in the US that the Dems let in. That was the whole idea. Crash the Republic and the Dems are dictators.

Mikey NTH म्हणाले...

Nice little Nuremberg Rally they got there.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

Big Mike writes, "...they’re your people, you and the rest of the Lefty Elitists."

Perhaps you should explain how you have come by this intimate knowledge of Althouse and her people. In the more than ten years I have followed this blog my complete picture of Althouse the woman boils down to these points, many of them derived through deductive reasoning incompetently executed.

1) Professionally, she is an academic lawyer formerly holding a chair in the field of Constitutional law, now retired. Professor Emeritus may be her title, though I've never seen her use it.

2) Althouse enjoys long, early morning walks, dogs not her own, landscape photography, formidable road trips, homegrown garlic, anthropomorphic rat caricatures, and the Monkees.

3) She drives an Audi TT, or did in the recent past, and a Ford F-150 truck. She has a son, John, and a husband, Meade. Meade's occasional comments reveal a very skeptical disposition regarding the usual assumptions of the American left -- not what one would expect from the spouse of a member of the "Lefty Elites". His valiant efforts to clean public monuments of leftist graffiti and defacements further attest to his rejection of the common shibboleths of that genre of sociopolitical faction.

That's it. Not very impressive given the time expended. Sherlock Holmes might give me a C-minus for observational acumen on a good day with a following wind, Consequently, I long to understand how Big Mike has deduced so much more over some much less time.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

They like to tell us who they are. Are you listening? These are Vickie and Chuckie's people.

RCOCEAN II म्हणाले...

Iranians are not Arabs. FYI

Skeptical Voter म्हणाले...

Let's try a little mindless cheer here. This is a stock line that has starated the "cheers" from various mindless little progressive bots at protests over the last 50 y ears.

Hey Hey Ho Ho!
These anti-American morons have to go.

It's got a catchy beat and you can dance to it as they used to say on Dick Clark's American Bandstand. And because that hey hey ho ho nonsense is catching you can get any number of cretins to add any number of things to the end of it.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

"What's with the Teamsters allowing insurrectionists to organize in their facility?"

What indeed. I doubt the rank and file closely monitor what their professional organizers and delegates are up to. Perhaps they should.

ga6 म्हणाले...

Forget it Jake, it's Chicago.

Jay म्हणाले...

Some consolation to us old farts that have read history. If these morons get what they want, they will be among the first up against the wall.

See Lenin, Mao,Castro,Ho Che Min, Pol Pot,Khomeini for what happens to "allies".

Big Mike म्हणाले...

A man in a full black denim outfit shouted out behind his N95—“Can we get a ‘marg bar America’?”

“We can get a ‘marg bar America,’ ” Rizvi replied.


Should we tell them that the “man in a full black denim outfit” is probably an FBI agent provocateur like Ray Epps on January 6th? Or should we let them learn the hard way? It wouldn’t surprise me if Rizvi is at least a paid informant, too.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

Why is everybody complaining? Progs state their desires openly: they wish death upon Israel and the U.S, both, equally. They despise us as they despise the joos. What's new?

The same progs can shut down a road to O'Hare, no prob. Who's to stop them? Nice voters?

Chest Rockwell म्हणाले...

I simply can't comprehend this level of sheep herding, mindless behavior.

gilbar म्हणाले...

Just to be clear..
when the Muslims strike... It's time for CHEERS! hurray!
when the Israeli's strike back.. It's "NO! We demand a cease fire!!"

do i have that right? Rcocean? Jupiter? anyone?

Just an old country lawyer म्हणाले...

They aren't "anti-war;" they are just on the other side. Regard and treat them accordingly.

William म्हणाले...

Contra Marx, I don't think capitalism produces alienation and anomie. Alienation and anomie are part of the human condition, but it is only in bourgeois democracies that people get to protest and act out their alienation and anomie. On a per capita basis, I don't think America has more assholes that other countries, but here they are certainly more vocal and visible... I would suspect that there must be many in Iran who view that country's massive launch of missiles and drones a dangerous escalation and would like the mullahs to show some restraint. Also, in Gaza, I can't believe everyone there is one hundred percent onboard with the Hamas leadership. Someone there must be thinking that they'd rather have a power station rather than an elaborate system of underground tunnels. Perhaps some even think that murdering and raping Israelis is not the way to go to negotiate a lasting peace, but these are not thoughts that can be spoken out loud.

Enigma म्हणाले...

@Douglas B. Levene: I love how the anti-Israel and anti-US countries have labeled their alliance the “Axis of Resistance.” They apparently have zero self-awareness. Let’s hope they meet the fate of the last century’s Axis

No self-awareness? Hmmm? I'd say they have full self-awareness and want to create a new race-based Axis. They proudly and often show swastika flags and Nazi symbols:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/israel-and-palestine-supporters-clash-in-times-square-nazi-symbol-on-display-watch-101696841312140.html

https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinians-fly-nazi-flag-near-hebron-idf-soldiers-shoot-it-down/

https://news.sky.com/story/police-actively-looking-for-individuals-over-antisemitic-signs-at-pro-palestinian-march-13005665

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/greta-thunbergs-anti-semitic-octopus-controversy

Temujin म्हणाले...

Shouting "Death to America, Death to Israel" is the natural path for the leftists. It just took a few years to get to this point, but this has always been the point. These people have been arm in arm with communists and anarchists for decades now. To see them in an all but knee-bending submittal to the worst of Islam is not a surprise to me. It might be to them when they find out all that it entails.

But now that we've seen it. how do we unsee it? How does the left ignore what is bleeding from their own arteries? Do American Jews pay enough attention to this, or are they still of the belief that, if you're on the right, you're a White Supremacist- even as the past 10 years have been filled with examples of the left being the home of today's antisemitism.

I, for one, love that it's no longer nuanced antisemitism. It's just right out there- both the hatred for their own country and their hatred for Jews because...hell...why not?

How any breathing adult still votes for a Democrat in this day and age astounds me. Vote for RFK Jr., vote for Trump. Write in your son. But voting for this party that has gutted so much of American life and culture over the years, and now walks arm in arm with people who would just assume behead you? Well...that's insane.

Jamie म्हणाले...

Usually with insults and name calling but also by changing the subject to "Oy vey, Israel is the real victim"

Burnishing those "I'm a anti-Zionist, not an antisemite!" credentials, I see.

Captain BillieBob म्हणाले...

How do you say fuck off asshole in Farsi ?

Clyde म्हणाले...

They aren’t antiwar, they are on the other side. They have declared themselves the enemy of our country. Any of them who aren’t U.S. citizens should be deported immediately.

Eva Marie म्हणाले...

Mr. O. Possum:
You quote “Arabs consciously reserve the right to look at the world in a subjective way, particularly if a more objective assessment of a situation would bring to mind a too-painful truth.”
That’s a description of the Democrat Party.
Maybe Democrats looked at the Arab world, found it better than ours, and are modeling themselves and our country after the Arab world. (Or maybe the Arab world is modeling itself after the Democrat Party.) One never knows, do one.

Yinzer म्हणाले...

Hey RCOCEAN, please let me have your home address. I would like to stop over and have a conversation with you. Full disclosure; when people say that in New York it means they want to kick your a$$.

lonejustice म्हणाले...

Big Mike said...

"@Althouse, they’re your people, you and the rest of the Lefty Elitists. You figure out what to do with them."
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I don't understand how you could possibly believe that a retired constitutional law professor from the University of Wisconsin at Madison is responsible for these idiots in Chicago chanting "Death to Israel" and "Death to America." Althouse has never said, implied, or even hinted that these are her people.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

@lonejustice, where do these infantile a-holes get this shit if not from their teachers and professors?

PM म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
PM म्हणाले...

Pro-Palestinians shut down the Golden Gate Bridge six hours ago.
No one can drive across it or jump off it.

Jim at म्हणाले...

Eventually these fifth-column thugs will need to be dealt with.

RCOCEAN II म्हणाले...

Admiral Mag Bar "its a trap. And a margarita"

RCOCEAN II म्हणाले...

No, Yinzer give me YOUR Home address. Lets see if its in the USA.

Mine is.

Rusty म्हणाले...

"Althouse and her people. "
Hey, hey hey! I'm one of those people.
Whether she likes it or not. Show a little respect.

So what you're saying Mr. O. Possum is that Arab Islamic mind is just like the Democrat mind.
Explaines a lot.

Darkisland म्हणाले...

A good prank would be to get a group of students together and teach them to chant "Death to America" in Farsi.

Except, instead of "We like cucks" or "eat a bag of dicks" in Farsi instead.

Kind of like these people who get Chinese tattoos that they think say "Don't forget to breath" or something equally stupid and can't figure out why every chinese person they meet bursts out laughing at them. Hopefully they just laugh and never let on that they have "I am a dickhead" tatooed on their neck.

John Henry

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

What a very white group.

Narayanan म्हणाले...

is this like teaching a baby to say 'daddy is motherfucker'

Captain BillieBob म्हणाले...

Don't Don't Don't
There, that should prevent any more attacks on Israel as well as any more protests. No more blocked bridges no more traffic interruptions. See how easy that is. Just say Don't and everything will be right as rain. Kinda like using the Force.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Can't we deport these fuckers?

What nation, other than one is steep decline and/or suicidal puts up with this bullshit?

We are a weak, feminine nation.

The Chinese are laughing their asses off.

They know how to handle this sort of thing. It costs less than a dollar...

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"is this like teaching a baby to say 'daddy is motherfucker'"

Which would be technically accurate...

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Self-loathing fukkktards.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Temujin -
that.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Leftists make good sheeple.

Larry J म्हणाले...

If you claim to be anti-war, then it seems reasonable to imply that you’re pro-peace. Calling for the deaths of Israel and the United States is hardly a peaceful thing. After all, assuming you aren’t expecting everyone in Israel and the US to commit suicide, then you’re calling for the slaughter of millions of people. That’s very warlike. They aren’t anti-war at all. They want millions, hundreds of millions of people dead. Take them at their word and treat them accordingly.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Lots of white leftists under those masks.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Larry J - Indeed.

lonejustice म्हणाले...

Big Mike said...

@lonejustice, where do these infantile a-holes get this shit if not from their teachers and professors?
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OK. Maybe. But what evidence do you have that these anti-Israeli and anti-American assholes are getting this from Althouse? Do you have any evidence of this? I think not.

Michael म्हणाले...

These nutters will be out in force at the DNC in Chicago. This will be great.

Howard म्हणाले...

Isn't free speech wonderful.

Jim at म्हणाले...

Isn't free speech wonderful.

Yes, it is. Because it allows me to clearly see the enemies of this nation, and treat them accordingly.

Drago म्हणाले...

Over-compensating Non-combat "vet" Howitzer Howard: "Isn't free speech wonderful."

Howie comes out swinging in support of anti-semitic anti-America pro-islamic supremacist types.

"Unexpectedly".

Bunkypotatohead म्हणाले...

The FBI is busy elsewhere...

"White supremacists 'pose the primary threat' of lethal domestic terrorism, FBI says"

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

I recently infiltrated o e of these workshops in Atlanta. They also teach people to screal "don't hurt me" and squirm in fake pain when they're not being touched. Every few minutes, the meeting is stopped by someone clicking their hands until everyone joins in the clicking, then they scream for five to ten minutes "from the river to the sea." I couldn't get into the high ranking seminars about blocking traffic with cars and other events but witnessed it and got all their license tags. Everyone was also taught to say they were journalists.

Moms in an urban suburban area were cheering them. Their kids, caught behind the action in a school bus, looked less enthused.

The interruptions and clicking and endless repetition are classic re-education. Look at that girl's eyes and listen to her words at the disrupted campus event. She's as brainwashed as a Manson girl. Does that change your mind about Fisk getting her out of her house?

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

They're in a Teamster hall because in the 90's, Soros sat down with the unions, Muslims, radicals, environmentalists, welfare rights, legal drugs, open borders, pro-cop-killers, ANTIFA and Ruckus, police and prison abolitionists, abortion, minority race supremacists, gay, lawprof and other groups -- thousands of them -- and formed the Blue-Green Alliance, run by former Weatherman and Obama confidant Jeff Jones. He told them he would give them billions of dollars to stop fighting each other (ie. Trucker union vs. Sierra Club) and work together to take over the DNC and then destroy America. That's a trainer from a Soros organization speaking there.

I have a map of their "silos."

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

6:39 - Tina Trent


The entire left are the hivemind. In so many ways.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

funny Howard- we are not complaining about free speech.

Shutting down free speech is only what you leftists like to do.

Rusty म्हणाले...

Thanks Tina I did not know that.