1. Even writing this post feels like a waste of time.
2. Nevada has an idiotic system. I resent even having to put effort into understanding it.
3. "Slim chances"... give me a break.
4. Why is it surprising that "none of the above" did well? I think "none of the above" is just about everybody's preference in any election. But, of course, here, "None of These Candidates" was literally on the ballot, and everyone understood that "None of These Candidates" meant Trump.
5. Elsewhere, people are trying to get "Trump" off all of the ballots. If they succeed, watch for the raging response from the "none of the above" supporters.
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To a Trump supporter “None of the above” could also mean “none of these indictments”.
2. Nevada has an idiotic system. I resent even having to put effort into understanding it.
While I agree with your characterization of Nevada’s system, I don’t think they care — or ought to care — about the resentments of a retired professor living two time zones away.
"The fewer words you have to waste on this
The sooner you can go"
"Nevada has an idiotic system. I resent even having to put effort into understanding it."
Comedy gold. Very t-shirt worthy.
Nikki Haley believes everything she reads in The Atlantic.
If the polls are correct in a contest between Biden, Trump, and None of the Above the last option would win in a landslide with 68% of the vote.
I’m increasingly of the opinion that the only way out of the current party-realignment or whatever we’re in since Trump is to get through it. I’d planned to vote (super-Tuesday state) for whoever was ahead between DeSantis and Haley, but now I think there’s no point. Let Trump sail to the nomination, and the chips fall where they may in the general. Hopefully, by 2028, both of these old men will be finally done, and we can start regaining some sense of normalcy.
The people have chosen incorrectly. We must dissolve the people.
…completely justified raging response…
Wow. And she’s not even a candidate for the caucus, which is how Nevada assigns delegates. LOL!
Harry Reid wanted NV to move up in importance, so he finagled a caucus and scheduled it early. I remember because I lived in Vegas and voted in the first one.
Like most of his endeavors, Reid's ideas began as brilliant Dem strategies that came back to smack him in the face.
Nikki is NOT running for the nomination.. She is NOT trying to be President..
Nikki is trying to keep President Trump from getting reelected. That is her ONLY role
In theory, I like the idea of putting "none of the above" on the ballot and then, if it wins, holding another election with an entirely new slate of candidates. Trump may be the only person in the country who could win in a system like that. In any other race, we'd end up holding elections forever with nobody ever able to take office.
So Nikki is not Trump's VP choice?
I must be struggling to wake up today. If there are no delegates to be had in the primary, why did Nikki choose to run in the primary? What an embarrassing spectacle. If Haley is running solely to prevent Trump from winning, then how much clearer could the message be, that this stratagem is never going to work - and how could voters ever bring themselves to vote for a candidate with such poor judgment, who seemingly trusts such appalling advice?
The wording on the ballot is not "none of the above" it is "none of these candidates"
As a practical matter, no difference i can see.
But if the media Can't get something so simple correct, why should we trust them on anything?
Sample ballot here https://www.clarkcountynv.gov/Election%20Department/2024/Sample-Ballot-24PPP.pdf
John Henry
Our Professor scoffs..
3. "Slim chances"... give me a break.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/gop_primary_trump_leads_haley_by_33_points
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 56% of Likely Republican primary voters would vote for Trump if the primary were held today, while Haley would get 23%.
56% of republicans support Trump. What (WHY?) is Nikki running for? What is Nikki running From?
In theory, I like the idea of putting "none of the above" on the ballot and then, if it wins, holding another election with an entirely new slate of candidates.
@tim maguire, I agree, except I’d require “none of the above” to win a majority, not merely a plurality, to force a do-over.
Haley chose to put her name on the primary ballot, even though no delegates were at stake. That decision was made in an attempt to claim a victory in a primary in an early state, and that decision backfired spectacularly. The smart decision would have been skip the primary too, like Trump did.
I am still waiting to see the big momentum Rich promised us would build after Iowa for Haley.
See the five stages of grief: The anti-Trump forces have moved beyond denial and anger. They are now in the 'bargaining' phase -- they use random lawsuits, made-up new rules, and hypocritical exceptions in an effort to kill the immortal demigod DJ Trump.
Haley just tattooed herself a loser in 2028. She brings to mind Idiocracy:
"What is your name?"
"I'm not sure."
"Okay, your name is Not Sure."
Nevada has an idiotic system. I resent even having to put effort into understanding it
I resent the primary system since it convinces the idiots they have a say in the matter…
Professora: “Elsewhere, people are trying to get ‘Trump’ off all of the ballots. If they succeed, watch for the raging response from the ‘none of the above’ supporters.”
Yes, but IMHO not raging, just quietly determined. Think “silent majority” that blew away the Dems in the 70’s and 80’s. Today I think the need for circumspection is far greater, because the Wokies will take your job, peace of mind and even your life if you declare your true preferences.
Nikki Haley supports the senate immigration plan. In my eyes that makes her a traitor. She will never be the republican nominee imo.
Lyssa, please tell me you aren't part of the problem, too?
"Get back to normal" is a thug's veto over ordinary citizens voting in their choice of candidates.
I like the idea of a system in which, if more voters choose "none of the above" than either of the candidates, both candidates are forever barred from running for that office.
I don't think it would lead to "None of the Above" always winning, because using your vote for "None of the Above" creates a risk that the candidate you like least could win. But it would mean that deeply unpopular candidates being foisted upon us by the insiders in the political parties could be put out of our misery.
If my "None of the Above" system were in place, the Powers that Be might not have tried to afflict us with "Hilary or Jeb! You have to choose one of them!"
A more fair election would have been “None of the above” against Boaty McBoatface, Deez Nuts against Nicky Haley.
Haley would have still lost, but she could have said the vote was diluted by Boaty McBoatface and suppressed by Deez Nuts retention.
The Republican party did NOT want a primary. They wanted to keep their caucus system. So when the D legislature forced them to have a primary, they just told everyone to ignore it and kept the Caucus. Trump has already won all the delegates since Haley refused to sign up for it.
She thought she would get a headline out of it, "Haley wins primary", but she didn't even get that. LOL!
Haley is supporting the Open borders pro-Amnesty Biden Border bill. Just more evidence she's a Biden Democrat pretending to be a Republican. That she gets 1/3 of the R vote just shows how weak the R's are.
Hopefully, by 2028, both of these old men will be finally done, and we can start regaining some sense of normalcy.
2/7/24, 7:30 AM
As long as you consider that Rinos will ALWAYS cave to Progressives and you want to call that normalcy.
Yes, it’s funny that she lost to nobody, but it’s also sad that this is where the GOP is at right now. I’m more interested in how many of her voters aren’t willing to vote for Trump.
Why is Nikki running ask the Karens and triggered snowflakes. Because it's a free country and she can do what she likes.
Haley has made a number of serious mistakes. Saying that everyone posting on the internet must have a verified identity was one. Supporting the fake border bill is the worst of them.
Michael K said...
+1
She was a good Mayor as Governor of SC. Ribbon cuttings, help with permits, that kind of thing…
Robin Abcarian, one of the blithering idiots who writes a column for the Los Angeles Times [pro tip, the Times doesn't print anything not written by a blithering idiot] says that Trump does not belong on any ballot.
While I think she's an idiot, she's free to say what she wants--so long as most sentient people ignore her.
"Elsewhere, people are trying to get "Trump" off all of the ballots."
Nothing better describes Democrat's "Our Democracy™" than their insistence that you should be limited to voting for the candidates they choose for you. Who do *you* want? Doesn't matter.
NIKKI '24:
SECOND To NONE!
Whenever there are no candidates on the ballot I want to give my vote to, which happens so many times I've lost count, I write in my name if there is a space for a write in. I keep hoping one day I'll see my name listed in the results but it never happens. sigh.
If no write in is allowed I hold my nose and vote for the one I consider will do the least harm. Man I dislike politicians!
Antiestablishmentarianism.
It seems like this whole state’s insane
On the thirty-first floor a gold plated door
Won't keep out the Lord's burning rain
Would that "None of the above" was on every ballot, and all candidates were barred from running again for, say, a decade, should they fall below that choice in voting.
'2. Nevada has an idiotic system.'
There's nothing worthwhile in Nevada except Lake Tahoe and no state income tax.
The cities (Vegas, Reno, etc.) are pretty gross...
Get back to normal would mean we don’t have candidates who are pushing 80, we don’t have people threatening to keep popular candidates off the ballot, we don’t have a major candidate facing legal charges, we don’t have so many citizens so angry at their fellow countrymen. It’s not one side or the other, but it needs to be done with, or we’re not going to have much of a country left.
Second to None?
Nikki needs to learn that, "better than nothing" is a high bar to cross (too high for her)
"I think "none of the above" is just about everybody's preference in any election."
That's mindless cynicism, not cruel neutrality.
I love a Flying Burrito Brother's reference!
So Nevada didn't clear enough of the field so that Nikki was the only choice, and now she can't show her 'momentum"?
"It’s not one side or the other, but it needs to be done with, or we’re not going to have much of a country left."
I would disagree that "It's not one side or the other."
Hard for me to see how an honest, neutral, informed observer could think otherwise.
Nikki is NOT running for the nomination.. She is NOT trying to be President..
Nikki is trying to keep President Trump from getting reelected. That is her ONLY role
Genius and gilbar both start with the letter "g". Coincidence? I think not.
Montgomery Brewster, please call your office.
Nevada's system might be stupid. California's is worse. You end up with two Democrats on the ballot and no Republicans.
Kate said...
"Like most of his endeavors, Reid's ideas began as brilliant Dem strategies that came back to smack him in the face."
I see what you did there. Nicely done.
Biased posts like these from our Cruelly Neutral host are why I rarely come here anymore. I have little interest in anything posted by someone that knowingly voted for an incestuous pedophile like Biden. But that's just me.
Homer Simpson went into space. Tragedy was averted when Homer, by accident natch, used a carbon rod (aka a hunk of cylindrically-shaped steel). A parade was held to celebrate the successful return from space.
The parade's honoree: The Inanimate Carbon Rod.
For being second-fiddle to a non-entity Haley can relate.
https://i0.wp.com/tstoaddicts.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/deep-space-homer-inanimate-carbon-rod-simpsons.jpg?ssl=1
Yes, it’s funny that she lost to nobody, but it’s also sad that this is where the GOP is at right now.
Your party is being led by a pants-shitting dementia patient. With a cackling imbecile warming up in the bullpen.
Maybe you should pay more attention to that.
Did anyone else think of this classic movie reference ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXEglx-or6k
Cameron,
See my post above. I was also surprised nobody else posted it.
Top 50 all time comedy.
Leftists control the Nevada legislature, and won't allow the Republicans to require voter ID in connection with a primary, so the Nevada Republicans decided to hold a caucus and award delegates based on caucus results, in which they could require voter ID. The Nevada legislative leftists require a primary be held for each of the political parties, apparently out of spite, so the Republican primary proceeds without voter ID and without any delegates at stake. Trump, being rational, skips the primary (no delegates) and focuses on the caucus (no objection to voter ID and that's where the delegates will be awarded). I have no special insights on Haley that haven't already been exhaustively dealt with above.
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