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What's the connection between sounding like Hitler and having read "Mein Kampf"?

I'm reading "Trump, Attacked for Echoing Hitler, Says He Never Read ‘Mein Kampf'" (NYT).
But he said on Tuesday night in a speech in Iowa that undocumented immigrants from Africa, Asia and South America were “destroying the blood of our country,” before alluding to his previous comments.

“That’s what they’re doing. They’re destroying our country,” Mr. Trump continued. “They don’t like it when I said that. And I never read ‘Mein Kampf.’ They said, ‘Oh, Hitler said that.’”

If not having read "Mein Kampf" were an excuse for those who don't want to be considered Nazi-like, then a lot of Nazis would be off the hook. Here's what William L. Shirer wrote in  "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" (p. 81):

Not every German who bought a copy of Mein Kampf necessarily read it. I have heard many a Nazi stalwart complain that it was hard going and not a few admit— in private— that they were never able to get through to the end of its 782 turgid pages.

Who's read "Mein Kampf"? It doesn't mean anything one way or the other not to have read "Mein Kampf." There are Nazi stalwarts who haven't read it and Nazi opponents who should have. To continue with the Shirer quote:

But it might be argued that had more non-Nazi Germans read it before 1933 and had the foreign statesmen of the world perused it carefully while there still was time, both Germany and the world might have been saved from catastrophe. For whatever other accusations can be made against Adolf Hitler, no one can accuse him of not putting down in writing exactly the kind of Germany he intended to make if he ever came to power and the kind of world he meant to create by armed German conquest. The blueprint of the Third Reich and, what is more, of the barbaric New Order which Hitler inflicted on conquered Europe in the triumphant years between 1939 and 1945 is set down in all its appalling crudity at great length and in detail between the covers of this revealing book.

But what's up with Trump's "blood of the country" rhetoric? Is he striking a Hitleresque chord? Is he needling the people who've been interpreting his "blood" talk that way? 

From the NYT article:

[Trump] added that Hitler said it “in a much different way,” without making his meaning clear.

Undocumented immigrants, he added, “could be healthy. They could be very unhealthy. They could bring in disease that’s going to catch on in our country.” And he again said that they were “destroying the blood of our country” and “destroying the fabric of our country.”

Mr. Trump and his campaign have dismissed the comparisons between his remark and language used by Hitler using the words “poison” and “blood” to denigrate those who Hitler deemed a threat to the purity of the Aryan race.

In one chapter of “Mein Kampf” named “Race and People,” Hitler wrote, “All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because the originally creative race died out, as a result of contamination of the blood.” In another passage, he links “the poison which has invaded the national body” to an “influx of foreign blood.”...

Mr. Trump... was also accused of echoing the dehumanizing language of fascist dictators, including Hitler, when he described his political opponents as “vermin” that needed to be rooted out....

I like the accuracy about the "vermin" remark. Trump didn't call immigrants "vermin." It was an insult for "his political opponents" — American citizens, presumably. 

But why is Trump continuing with his "blood" theme? Blood is colorful and exciting, and maybe he's drawn to using the very words his antagonists are trying to deprive him of. It could be something more sinister, and there are many of us who shy away from things that have a whiff of the possibility of something sinister. His opponents are trying to appeal to people like that. 

ADDED: Shirer wrote that the world could have seen in Hitler's book "the kind of world he meant to create by armed German conquest." By contrast, Trump seems especially averse to military activity. His "blood" talk is in the context of securing American borders. That's the opposite of conquest. And we've already seen Trump in power. If he had a Hitleresque plan, wouldn't he have executed it in his first term? Consult a summary of what Hitler did in his first 4 years of power and compare.

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wendybar म्हणाले...

If only the out of touch Politicals in our country could feel the anger that is brewing rapidly outside of their bubble. This country is a powder keg about to erupt, and they are parsing Trumps words instead of worrying about what is coming.

Leland म्हणाले...

There is no connection between Trump and Hitler as there isn’t between Trump and insurrection. The Marxist just want us to think so.

Oso Negro म्हणाले...

Nobody takes shit like Mein Kampf seriously until there is serious bloodletting

rehajm म्हणाले...

But why is Trump continuing with his "blood" theme?

He’s just really good at pushing buttons.

John henry म्हणाले...

Everybody wants to talk about what National Socialism is but nobody ever seems to have read the book. It is this amorphous boogie an that seems to be whatever the speaker wants it to be at the moment.

It is tough going but worth the effort. One comes away realizing national socialism was even worse than anyone thinks.

One cannot read it and come away thinking that National Socialism is somehow not "socialism".

Not Marxist, perhaps, though they share many ideas in common. But socialism predated marx and there are many flavors. Marxism is only one strain.

John Henry

John henry म्हणाले...

As I've said before everyone should also read mussolini's "Doctrine of Fascism" if they want to talk about what fascism/Fascism is or isn't. A much easier read than me in kampf because it is much shorter.

Ditto everyone should read marx. Capital, ideally. If not, at least The Communist Manifesto.

Then, as a palate cleanser, "atlas shrugged"

John Henry

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Kenneth Burke has a nice analysis written in the 30s that gets to modern dysfunctions in "The Rhetoric of Hitler's Battle" which is probably online but constitutes a chapter in The Philosophy of Literary Form

hmm yes, online here for example

Burke singles out blood as sexual imagery

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Excuses excuses.
Wasn't Artie Johnson hung for the atrocities Stalag 69?
Werner Klemperer too?

tim maguire म्हणाले...

"Blood" was a dumb choice of words, but Trump often chooses his words poorly. It's part of his schtick and his charm. Sure, nobody has to read Mein Kampf to know what Nazis sound like, but that's also the kind of thing you say when you're not interested in a topic--I don't know much about it.

"I haven't read Mein Kampf" means he doesn't care about Nazis.

Michael E. Lopez म्हणाले...

The answer to your headline question seems rather obvious.

You are thinking that the charge, "You sound like Hitler", is an accusation that one is *like* Hitler. That is, if one does as Hitler does often enough, one becomes as Hitler was, regardless of one's intentions or beliefs.

Trump hears "You sound like Hitler" and he thinks (or pretends to think) that the charge is that he is an ADMIRER of Hitler (i.e., that he *likes* Hitler), and is consciously emulating the Hitler playbook. Thus, "I haven't even *read* the Hitler playbook" is an actual defense to the charge that one is enacting it deliberately.

That's not to say that yours isn't a more reasonable interpretation of the criticism itself, nor to proffer a defense of Trump, but I'm really not sure why this would be confusing.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Anybody who thinks that bringing in seven million unvetted migrants, who arrive at our borders under the direction of criminal cartels is a bad idea is a Nazi. After all, Hitler would never have allowed it.

But remember, we are sending hundreds of billions of dollars in money and weapons to Ukraine, which has a clause in their constitution about protecting the blood of the Ukrainian people, and this is the most noble war in defense of democracy fought since WWII!

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

4 out of 5 of Trump’s children were born of immigrant mothers, and he claims immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”

Christopher B म्हणाले...

On par with noting that Hitler was a vegitarian and loved dogs.

William म्हणाले...

I don't think many people have read Das Kapital either, but a lot more people pretend to have read it. The two most influential books ever written in German, Mein Kampf and Das Kapital, are mostly unread......Trotsky, for a good portion of his life, made his living as a writer. I read his autobiography. It's readable, but I can't recommend it. Nothing in it about the hot sex with Frida. I read Churchill's "My Early Life". It's pretty good and not as dated or prolix as some of his later works.....I didn't become a Communist after reading Trotsky or an imperialist after reading Churchill. I don't see how reading Mein Kampf would make you a Nazi.....A lot of the movers and shakers of the 20th century wrote their memoirs. I think only Churchill's books qualify as something that approaches literature. He won a Nobel Prize for Literature, but even Churchill was no Dylan when it came to literature.

Christopher B म्हणाले...

Rich said...
4 out of 5 of Trump’s children were born of immigrant mothers, and he claims immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”


Even the NYT story didn't mischaracterized what Trump said like that.

But he said on Tuesday night in a speech in Iowa that undocumented immigrants from Africa, Asia and South America..

gspencer म्हणाले...

Does reading the Cliff Notes of M.K.?

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

The nazis who haven't read Mein Kampf cry out in pain as they strike the ones who have read Mein Kampf.

Mark म्हणाले...

So the protesting college kids can just say they never read anything anti-semitic and thus their support of Hamas is ok?

NorthOfTheOneOhOne म्हणाले...

Who's read "Mein Kampf"?

Is there any documentation on how many of the people accusing Trump of quoting Hitler have read Mein Kampf? I haven't seen any and somehow I can't quite see the News Barbies at CNN even knowing what it is.

Breezy म्हणाले...

Where’s the full context of his statement? This seems article seems to be manipulative.

For example, this is JD Vance’s take, from WaPo article:

Sen. JD Vance, a Republican from Ohio, lashed out at a reporter asking about Trump’s “poisoning the blood” comments, defending them as a reference to overdoses from fentanyl smuggled over the border.
“You just framed your question implicitly assuming that Donald Trump is talking about Adolf Hitler. It’s absurd,” Vance said. “It is obvious that he was talking about the very clear fact that the blood of Americans is being poisoned by a drug epidemic.”

Jersey Fled म्हणाले...

I confess. I have read Mein Kampf. Apparently spellcheck hasn’t though.

Iman म्हणाले...

‘4 out of 5 of Trump’s children were born of immigrant mothers, and he claims immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”

Apples and oranges… they were legal immigrants, not invasive people bum rushing our republic.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

I think Trump’s point was more like, “what kind of person reads Hitler’s manifesto looking for similarities to Trump speeches?” Or a version of “if you hear the whistle you ARE the dog.” None of the voters who showed up at the rallies where he said “poison the blood” heard Mein Kampf in Trump’s speech. He has used variations on the poisoning theme since 2016. Like Democrats who hear “kill kill KILL!” when Republicans say target these Hitler fanatics are taking common political jargon (spoiler, spoiled ballots, etc) and dialing the fake outrage to eleven.

Google “Schumer and dagger” for fun sometime. Do you think he’s talking about real stabbing in those thousands of examples? It’s called metaphor. It’s a higher order of communication than a dog whistle.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Stupid verbal move. The left think he is dangerous. NO.
Trump is merely a dumb-ass.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

Everyone on the left routinely denounces capitalism. It's bad, doncha know? Bad for the climate. Bad for brown people. Bad for the bees. Hitler agreed, therefore, they are Nazis.

Quaestor म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Kevin म्हणाले...

Wait, so now they’re saying Trump is like Hitler?

Earnest Prole म्हणाले...

Sure, the man may sound like der Führer, but he wants you to know he’s no plagiarist.

Iman म्हणाले...

Felsiger Berg hoch in Colorado…

cf म्हणाले...

I started reading Mein Kempf when I was first out of college, and was surprised to find easy agreement with Hitler's early broad generalities. But somewhere about page 57, I swallowed another one of his mild, logical statements, and choked, realizing with horror that, if taken to its fullest logical conclusion, would sanction the massacre of millions of innocents.

So by page 60 I had to slam it shut and, in fact, to get that evil, dangerous mind out away from my house. Into the garbage bin with the bacon fat it went.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

These illegal entrants are fleeing poverty in south and central America. They are abusing our asylum system. They are not in need of asylum - they want a better life. They are also being shuttled and driven to the border by left-mob mega-funding. They are illegal and they should all be deported. why can't Trump speak in plain and normal language. He does sound like a racist. He is making it about race - when it is about law, abuse of the asylum system - and so many millions of illegal non-English speaking will eventually destroy our nation. Not because of blood - but because of the numbers.
so stupid and clumsy of him. Another unnecessary dick-step.


Most are coming in from Venezuela. Communist dictator Maduro has destroyed Venezuela.

Ironically- the democrat mob American left are all little Maduros.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"I confess. I have read Mein Kampf. Apparently spellcheck hasn’t though."

It's a common problem with typos and such. Many people searching for Mein Kampf end up accidentally selecting Hitler's lesser-known work, Mein Kampfy Stuhl, a rich and wide-ranging critique of the German furniture and upholstery industry. Hitler was a furniture snob. Only the best for mama Pölzl's baby boy. He even had chairs in Berchtesgaden that were designed by a well-known Jewish designer. Ethnic hatred doesn't rate when it comes to butt comfort.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Trump somehow got out of school without reading anything. Why would he read Mein Kampf?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

correction:

The illegal entrants are not abusing our asylum laws - OUR own government is. Our own corrupt mob government allow complete lawlessness.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

Eight and a half years after Trump came down the escalator and said who is bum rushing our southern border his opponents still try and conflate legal and illegal immigration, “even though” Trump is demonstrably welcoming of legal immigrants. Why is such a losing strategy so popular among the low IQ crowd? They must think democrat voters will believe anything.

Iman म्हणाले...

The more these mincing mooks lash out, the more attractive Trump becomes.

wildswan म्हणाले...

Mein Kampf is about Hitler's struggle (Kampf) to overcome the liberalism in which he was raised. When he was ready to suppress free speech on behalf of his party, when he was ready to use endless propaganda and lies, when he saw the necessity for using the Jews as scapegoats, when he was ready to use brutality against opponents and scapegoats - then he had prevailed in his struggle against his decent instincts and upbringing. And there are many in the US struggling against their own liberalism and decency today, particularly among the college students. Struggling to learn how to support anti-semitism and brutality by accepting lies against the Jews and scapegoating them is replicating Hitler's struggle and we have seen Presidents of major universities engaged in that struggle and when it's finished they'll pass on the way to their dark victory in a struggle against liberalism to their students. Hitler Rising.

From Mein Kampf

"... [At first] I thought that [the Jews] were persecuted on account of their Faith. ... I considered that the tone adopted by the anti-Semitic Press in Vienna was unworthy of the cultural traditions of a great people

"My ideas about anti-Semitism changed ... in the course of time, ... that was the change which I found most difficult [in my struggle, mein kampf.]

I had dark presentiments and feared something evil.
I had before me a teaching inspired by egoism and hatred, mathematically calculated to win its victory, but the triumph of which would be a mortal blow to humanity.
Meanwhile I had discovered the relations existing between this destructive teaching and the specific character of [the Jews].
...
Knowledge of the Jews is the only key whereby one may understand the inner nature and therefore the real aims of Social Democracy....

"I now realized that the Jews were the leaders of Social Democracy. In face of that revelation the scales fell from my eyes. My long inner struggle [mein kampf] was at an end."

wildswan म्हणाले...

PS

By "Social Democracy" Hitler means "international communism" as other parts of Main Kampf show.

Wince म्हणाले...

For the record, the subject "they" in Trump's statement was the Biden administration allowing unvetted people to enter the country illegally, but you wouldn't see that from the truncated quotes in most of the press.

“They let — I think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country. When they do that, we got a lot of work to do. They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” Trump told the crowd at a rally in New Hampshire. “That’s what they’ve done."

wildswan म्हणाले...

PPS
Today the enemy is settler imperialism and it cannot be properly opposed unless one struggles against one's own decency and liberalism and learns to adopt the outlook and methods of Hamas which is leading the attack on Israel, the little Satan and by implication against the US, the Great Satan, as the Iranian leaders and paymasters have explained the issue.

Mazo Jeff म्हणाले...

Trump must be a Nazi cuz " he looks like one"....turned me into a newt!

Aggie म्हणाले...

This is simply taken from the Anti-Trump 2024 campaign playbook - and everybody has gotten the memo. It's the same tired kind of themes that we saw during his Presidency: All Attack, All The Time. Every week, a new outrage is generated and put into the production line. The finished outrages are rolled out in the Legacy Mainstream Media with an appalling, monotonous regularity, while others are given early reference in the news, to prepare for their reception as they ripen on the production line.

So, this week 'He's Talking Just Like Hitler And Even Using His Exact Words ! ! !' Yesterday on NPR they were devoting sizeable time slots during the daily shows and the new segments, using hushed, urgent tones to convey the Fear Of Trump. They even dragged in that Expert Professor from Texas A&M, the one quoted here previously on the subject of dangerous political rhetoric. She's Very Scared, and even Fearful of what Trump Might Do.

It would be laughable, if the coverage wasn't so monopolistic. But being monopolistic, the coverage can be absurd to the point of incoherence, and people will still listen.

Chuck म्हणाले...

No one here -- at 7:30 blog time -- seems to understand or recall Trump's own history with "Mein Kampf" and Hitler. I'll explain.

During Trump's divorce from Ivana, she had mentioned that Donald kept a Hitler book by his bedside. It was variously reported in the media as having been "Mein Kampf," but was in fact a Hitler book called "My New Order," which was a collection of Hitler's speeches. (Mein Kampf, it has been widely noted, is an impenetrably dense and boring book. People familiar with it could not imagine Trump reading anything like that.)

For a 1990 Vanity Fair profile, Trump was asked about his bedside book:

Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

“I don’t remember,” I said.

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

Is Ivana trying to convince her friends and lawyer that Trump is a crypto-Nazi? Trump is no reader or history buff. Perhaps his possession of Hitler’s speeches merely indicates an interest in Hitler’s genius at propaganda. The Führer often described his defeats at Stalingrad and in North Africa as great victories. Trump continues to endow his diminishing world with significance as well. “There’s nobody that has the cash flow that I have,” he told The Wall Street Journal long after he knew better. “I want to be king of cash.”

So that's it. That's the story. In the 30-plus years since, Trump continually denies any connection to "Mein Kampf." Which seems to be technically true. But I don't think that since a Trump Presidency became a thing, Trump has ever given a straight answer to questions following up on the old Vanity Fair story.

Eva Marie म्हणाले...

Rather than shouting squirrel every time Donald Trump says something, Democrats need to fix their own party. Democrat judges and Democrat secretaries of state are trying to destroy the Democratic process. Democrat voters need to fix their party.

n.n म्हणाले...

The German socialists were a secular sect with an ethical religion, that favored class-disordered ideologies, redistributive change, environmentalism, planned personhood, Mengele's dreams of Levine, diversity taxonomic catalogues, and sociopolitical equity. They were notoriously Anti-Zionist... Jew. They engaged in multiple ethnic Springs to cleanse their "burdens"... uh, burdens or lives deemed unworthy of life.

n.n म्हणाले...

Sounding like Mao... a great leap, like Hitler... a green deal, like Mussolini... a single/central/monopolistic solution, like a social progressive... a wicked solution, a class struggle, a color judgment, and reading the NYT.

wild chicken म्हणाले...

The Nazis completely took over German schools in three years.

So Trump doesn't have that going for him.

AMDG म्हणाले...

The last book that Donald Trump read is probably “The Cat in the Hat”.

The talking points that Trump will become a dictator are idiotic. They all act like he is some criminal mastermind. He isn’t. He is ruled by his compulsions and at the end of the day is not that smart.

The danger that he poses is that his presence in the Republican Party is likely to lead to permanent progressive control of the government.

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

I really cannot stand the comparison of Trump with Hitler.
Hitler was directly responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people. Jews. Gays. Undesirables. Gypsies. The man was evil personified.
Now, list the number of people Trump has killed. Trump actively avoided wars during his 4 years in power. Remember that?
How do you cheapen the horror of the Holocaust, and minimize what Hitler has done? By comparing him to a politician who threatens your power. I remember all the BushHitler talk too.

Butkus51 म्हणाले...

doesnt matter

This summer democrats will unleash the fruits of their last 4 years of labor.

It wont be pretty.

Drago म्हणाले...

LLR-democratical Rich: "4 out of 5 of Trump’s children were born of immigrant mothers, and he claims immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”

LOL

You're not putting in much of a LLR trolling effort on this one, are you?

Your lies are much more pathetic than usual.

Cartel controlled human-trafficking of illegal immigrants and fentanyl into into the US through our New Soviet Democraticals completely open borders are the "poisons".

Maybe you should just go back to serially lying about Musk. You were still lying non-stop but you seemed happier.

Drago म्हणाले...

Wince: "For the record, the subject "they" in Trump's statement was the Biden administration allowing unvetted people to enter the country illegally, but you wouldn't see that from the truncated quotes in most of the press."

They know they are lying. (See LLR-democratical Rich above).

Drago म्हणाले...

I stand w Isreal. Leftists, Mullahs, Hamas-Palistinian terrorists can suck it: "Trump somehow got out of school without reading anything."

Please present your evidence for this moronic MSNBC-level claim.

Note: We wont hold our breath.

Texasyankee म्हणाले...

I have read "Mein Kampf", "The Communist Manifesto," "The Wealth of Nations," "Origin of the Species." I can't remember much from any of them. "Catch 22" is a lot funnier and more insightful than any of them.

Narr म्हणाले...

I think most people would rather wait for the movie. I hear Ridley Scott is good with history.

MK was one of the most-stolen items in the university library.

narciso म्हणाले...

Its the message of wilders and meloni, as well

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The issue here is as always.... Trump's clumsy phrasing is a gift to the left..

rcocean म्हणाले...

I've read Mein Kampf, and besides being dull, it has very little about Jews, nothing about Killing them, or clearly states Hitler did not want to "Conquer the world"

Written just 5 years after WW 1, Hitler goes over the Kaiser's mistakes, and what the correct course for Germany should be. The Kaiser's big error in Hitler's opinion was not securing the friendship of Britain, and wasting time on colonies and a Big Navy. Russia was the real enemy.

So Hitler's says, the correct path for Germany is friendship with the UK, and expansion in the east. And Hitler persued that policy all the way through 1942, offering Churchill a peace deal in 1940, and finally attacking the USSR in 1941.

As for Trump is a Nazi. Althouse says it all. He was POTUS for 4 years and wasn't a Nazi or a dictator, or an authoritarian. All these attacks are nonsense. Horseshit on steroids.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Biden's Stalinist DOJ tries to jail Trump to prevent him from defeating Biden. A Leftwing cabal of judges in Colorado tears up the constitution and says no one can vote for Trump, even as a write in.

J6 protesters are still being hunted down and put in jail for just walking into the Captial. Pro-life advocates are being jailed and the FBI is spying on "extreme catholics" and putting agents in Catholic pews to "sniff out Domestic Terrorism"

The NYT/WaPO approves of these attacks on Democracy. And to cover their tracks, calls Trump a Nazi.

hombre म्हणाले...

Trump was POTUS for four years. Despite leftmediaswine and Democrat contentions to the contrary, he was far less an autocrat than QuidProJoe.

This is much ado about nothing intended to keep attention away from Democrat screwups and Biden corruption.

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

Appalling moment gay Iraq War veteran Rob Smith is surrounded by racist mob shouting 'n*****' and 'f*****' on sidelines of conservative conference in Phoenix

If they'll attack a black guy, who will - literally - suck their dick, then I don't stand a chance on the right.

farmgirl म्हणाले...

When we have more illegal “citizens” as opposed to natural and legal Americans-
“our” blood is thinned. Collectively- Americans that take an oath of loyalty are true to their home, their country.

It’s not a purity of lines(lineage). It’s a purity of heart(loyalty).

That’s how I understand him.

farmgirl म्हणाले...

“4 out of 5 of Trump’s children were born of immigrant mothers, and he claims immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.””

Legal immigrants.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

J.D. Vance

“Well look. I’ve been asked this question a number of times, and here’s my view on these comments. First of all, he didn’t say immigrants were poisoning the blood of this country. He said illegal immigrants were poisoning the blood of the country, which is objectively and obviously true to anybody who looks at the statistics about fentanyl overdoses, and I think just one observation about the press as an organization: you guys seem far more upset about the guy who criticized the problem than you did about Joe Biden who’s causing the problem.” (emphasis added)

Has Joe Biden ever given an explanation for why he has abandoned border security? Sincere question.

effinayright म्हणाले...

Apparently Adolf had a thing for upholstery, too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/20dhlb/til_that_the_term_carpet_eater_actually_refers_to/?rdt=36364

" During the negotiations with Czechoslovakia in 1938, [Hitler] became so agitated that he fell to the floor, and began to literally chew on the carpet."

An old German word, "teppenfresser" describes this bizarre behavior, which others must have engaged in.

Literally---not figuratively, as in the case of lesbians.

And not like Hillary, with Donna ShaLAYlalalalalalalala.....

Breezy म्हणाले...

Aside - that speech was 1 he 25 minutes long and chock full of his vision for America and why. Can you imagine Biden doing that? Being so open and transparent and resolute in doing what’s best for our country?

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/trump-rally-from-durham-new-hampshire-12-16-23-transcript

Limited blogger म्हणाले...

Let me know when a policy discussion begins.

Howard म्हणाले...

It's hilarious watching people playing twister to defend obviously racist white supremacist talking points. It's so blatant, it's well beyond dog whistling. I'll take the ridiculous scolding of wokester cancel culture over your vile racists any day. Why do Christians love making deals with the devil? Is it because you get a get out of hell free card for doing evil on earth while believing that Jesus is in heaven?

The good thing is you folks here always seem very miserable, negative and depressed because you believe the USA is going to hell in a hand-basket as we enjoy unprecedented equality, acceptance, wealth and freedom. Your body resides in actual heaven, yet you believe you are burning in hell. It's no wonder because your subconscious knows you are Nazi simps and you punishing yourselves for that guilt. It isn't a mystery that Trump country suffers the most from the opioid, obesity, diabetes and suicide epidemics. Natural selection is a bitch

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Rich said…“4 out of 5 of Trump’s children were born of immigrant mothers, and he claims immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”

Blogger farmgirl said..."Legal immigrants."


He knows this. What's amazing is he thinks we don't.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

'Not every German who bought a copy of Mein Kampf necessarily read it.'

Kind of like all the boring, shitty books 'written' by Barack, Hillary, Michelle, and even the Wide Latina.®

They are a grift. A legal way to bribe politicians and launder money.

Nobody reads that drivel...

PS. Republicans do it too.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

The Nazis and Democrats have a lot in common.

One drop. Just one drop could mean the difference between a lynching and a welcome wagon.

Dr Weevil म्हणाले...

At 6:28am, 'tim in vermont' repeated a bald-faced lie that he knows is a bald-faced lie because I've corrected it before.

Article 16 of the Ukrainian constitution has nothing to do with race or ethnicity, but is about Chornobyl, and can only be made to look Naziish if you quote parts out of context. Here's the whole thing (link):

"To ensure ecological safety and to maintain the ecological balance on the territory of Ukraine, to overcome the consequences of the Chornobyl catastrophe - a catastrophe of global scale, and to preserve the gene pool of the Ukrainian people, is the duty of the State."

It's obviously saying that one of the duties of the state is to minimize ongoing damage from the Chornobyl atrocity by genetic testing and treatment of humans affected by radiation poisoning.

Of course, he continues to pretend that Nazis in the former USSR are all in Ukraine, when most of them are in Russia. Has he heard that the Wagner Group - founded by two guys whose swastika tattoos did not keep them out of Putin's circle of close advisers - recently renamed themselves? They're now calling themselves the 'Africa Corps'. That's how English-language newspapers put it, but I don't think Russian has a hard-c, so 'Afrika Korps' would be more accurate: I'm pretty sure Rommel's and Wagner's would be spelled exactly the same in Russian. Do I have to explain how sinister that is? More than one person on Twitter replied with things like "That's really letting the cat out of the bag".

One more untruth: I don't believe we've spent "hundreds of billions of dollars" helping Ukraine defend themselves. This source gives the total through October 31st as 71 billion. Calling 71 plural hundreds is basically tripling the number and implying that it might be quadruple or even sextuple what it is.

Why does 'tim in vermont' lie so eagerly and so boldly? It almost looks as if he's paid to do so.

Oligonicella म्हणाले...

I don't recall the liberal press having vapors over Biden's red-backed PR photo.

If THIS doesn't recall visuals of Goebbels' prop, nothing should.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"... They were notoriously Anti-Zionist ...".

Not true. Not true at all. Nazis and Zionists got along just fine. For one thing, they both wanted all the Jews out of Germany.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

Howard is back everyone!

Rosalyn C. म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
TeaBagHag म्हणाले...

The ole “ I used Nazi rhetoric accidentally, because it helps motivate hateful rubes to vote for me but I didn’t read Mein Kampf.” defense.
I believe him. There’s no way that Ritalin rattled, walking double cheeseburger dipped in mayo could read a whole book.

chuck म्हणाले...

Hitler's rapid corruption of the state bureaucracy was remarkable, I rank him with Stalin and Obama in that regard. The old fashioned road to supremacy was through the military, the modern way is through the bureaucracy.

Iman म्हणाले...

“When we have more illegal “citizens” as opposed to natural and legal Americans-
“our” blood is thinned. Collectively- Americans that take an oath of loyalty are true to their home, their country.

It’s not a purity of lines(lineage). It’s a purity of heart(loyalty).

That’s how I understand him.”

Well said, farmgirl!

Rosalyn C. म्हणाले...

I do wonder what all these people with nothing coming to the United States are thinking. It seems strange to me that there is no attempt by the media to interview people to ask them what they think about the United States and if they have plans to become citizens. It should be manditory but that seems unlikely.
So what are the values of these people? Freedom? Liberty? Liberalism? Universal love? Or just to work here and send money home, buy land and a home and eventually go home? That’s what lots of Mexicans have done. That’s why they got mad at Trump for closing the border. Inconvenient. I believe that’s what the Somali do as well. They claim asylum here because of the threats to their lives, and yet they go back home to Somalia for vacations.
I wonder what kind of work these so called migrants are going to do and where they will live. I noticed that Biden says nothing about this. He should be talking about this. We’re talking about hundreds of thousands of people coming in daily.
I haven’t been keeping up with Trump‘s speeches, so I am rather surprised by this language about blood. But maybe he’s just fear baiting his constituents, the way that Democrats are fear baiting their constituents.
I don’t consider Trump a racist at all, so I’ll have to check and see what he’s actually saying.
I don’t assume that people coming here are bad people but I also don’t assume they want to be Americans. That’s a problem.

Iman म्हणाले...

Merry Christmas to Howard, the dim witted but vile corksoaker.

Goetz von Berlichingen म्हणाले...

I've read Mein Kampf in German. A real slog. Greatly expanded my German vocabulary, where I learned some words that are now virtually forbidden in Germany such as "ausmerzen".

I've also read Goebbels speech "Warum wir Sozialisten sind." (Why we are Socialists).
The Nazis were/are clearly a party of the left. Their original 25 point platform sounds very much like a wishlist our native Democrats would support.

I've seen where morons claim that the Nazis weren't socialists because they made war on/killed other socialists. They conveniently gloss over the communist purges of their own people. Trotsky is unavailable for comment on the subject. Kristallnacht didn't get its name because that was the night they broke out the good champagne. Just ask Julius Streicher.

Mein Kampf was given to newly-married couples as a wedding gift from the state. After the war, the Germans outlawed the book. They'd have been smarter if they hadn't banned it. Forbidden fruit, you know.

Goetz von Berlichingen

wendybar म्हणाले...

"As for Trump is a Nazi. Althouse says it all. He was POTUS for 4 years and wasn't a Nazi or a dictator, or an authoritarian. All these attacks are nonsense. Horseshit on steroids."

And the idiot commenters here spewing the horseshit from their lying mouths are the problem in this country. They are all full of it, and enemies of Patriots in this country. They know who they are. Just read the comments.

Readering म्हणाले...

The MK thing dates from wife Ivana's claim he kept it by his bedside.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"If they'll attack a black guy, who will - literally - suck their dick, then I don't stand a chance on the right."

Did you skip this part?

"Smith said in a post that they had also aimed racial slurs at him, but none can be heard in the clip he shared."

Btw, I have no idea who this is...

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

'The MK thing dates from wife Ivana's claim he kept it by his bedside.'

I have about ten or fifteen books near my bedside that I've never read.

Gifts, etc. that I may never read.

Mason G म्हणाले...

The leftist games of "Climate Change" and "Trump Is A Nazi" are basically the same. Start with a conclusion, look for and amplify things that seem to support the conclusion and ignore evidence that doesn't. It's all very progressive.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

The issue here is as always.... Trump's clumsy phrasing is a gift to the left..

Oh April you still don't get him, do you? He knows exactly how to make the media cover him. He knows 95% of the population doesn't get their opinions from Big Media, nor will they think "Ah like Hitler!" when they hear the quote from Trump. The border issue is being kept "front of mind" and the press asks Biden's spokes-mop about it precisely because Trump keeps raising it. Even registered D voters agree the border is in crisis. How do you explain that without factoring in the Trump phenomenon? Is it all those fire and brimstone Desantis speeches? LOL!

It works every damned time Trump does it. He can play the media like a violin.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"'But why is Trump continuing with his "blood" theme?'

"He’s just really good at pushing buttons."


So was Hitler.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

The MK thing dates from wife Ivana's claim he kept it by his bedside.

Really DEEP "horseshit on steroids!" I have it on good authority that the TV remote was the only thing allowed on his bedside table.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Zelensky should be removed from office for destroying the gene pool of Ukraine by leading his country, against the wishes of his own voters, into an un-winnable war of attrition just to advance the geostrategic designs of the neocons. Nobody voted for that war, not the people of Ukraine or the people of the United States, yet Joe Biden insisted on sending a letter to Kiev, which was still fighting the civil war we started with the 2014 coup, that every Russian leader since Gorbachev, including those in opposition, said would inevitably lead to war. There is even video of Joe Biden, when he was a Senator, saying the exact same thing.

Sorry, but “gene pool of the Ukrainian people, has a distinctly ultra nationalist ring. There are many people in Ukraine who the Ukrainians don’t consider to be “Ukrainian,” Russian speakers, for example, or Roma, or ethnic Hungarians. Why use such loaded language.

As for your discredited claims, based on one questionable photo, that there are more Nazis in Russia than Ukraine, it takes a studied ignorance of Ukrainian history to swallow that one. Ukraine has made a national hero of Holocaust criminal Bandera. One of his soldiers was the Nazi who got a standing ovation in Canada’s parliament. The actual Nazis in Russia are fighting for Ukraine.

As for numbers, have you included all of the military aid we have been sending to Ukraine since 2014 to help them win the civil war we started with the Maidan coup? You know, the stuff that they impeached Trump for slowing it down for a couple of weeks?

Jaq म्हणाले...

Zelensky should be removed from office for destroying the gene pool of Ukraine by leading his country, against the wishes of his own voters, into an un-winnable war of attrition just to advance the geostrategic designs of the neocons. Nobody voted for that war, not the people of Ukraine or the people of the United States, yet Joe Biden insisted on sending a letter to Kiev, which was still fighting the civil war we started with the 2014 coup, that every Russian leader since Gorbachev, including those in opposition, said would inevitably lead to war. There is even video of Joe Biden, when he was a Senator, saying the exact same thing.

Sorry, but “gene pool of the Ukrainian people, has a distinctly ultra nationalist ring. There are many people in Ukraine who the Ukrainians don’t consider to be “Ukrainian,” Russian speakers, for example, or Roma, or ethnic Hungarians. Why use such loaded language.

As for your discredited claims, based on one questionable photo, that there are more Nazis in Russia than Ukraine, it takes a studied ignorance of Ukrainian history to swallow that one. Ukraine has made a national hero of Holocaust criminal Bandera. One of his soldiers was the Nazi who got a standing ovation in Canada’s parliament. The actual Nazis in Russia are fighting for Ukraine.

As for numbers, have you included all of the military aid we have been sending to Ukraine since 2014 to help them win the civil war we started with the Maidan coup? You know, the stuff that they impeached Trump for slowing it down for a couple of weeks?

And when is Ukraine going to change the name of the highway leading to the site of a Ukrainian death camp so that it is no longer named after the man who sent hundreds of thousands of Jews and Poles to their deaths there, an activity which continued right up until the camps were liberated by the Red Army?

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"I do wonder what all these people with nothing coming to the United States are thinking."

Mostly they're fleeing bad conditions at home, whether political oppression and violence or lack of work, or both.

"So what are the values of these people? Freedom? Liberty? Liberalism? Universal love?"

Seeking safety for themselves and their families and finding jobs to provide for themselves and their families, (including sending money to family back home). Basically, the same values as most people everywhere.

"I do not know what kind of work these so called migrants are going to do or where they will live."

Typically, they work at menial low-skill low-paid jobs Americans won't do, such as cleaning, farm labor, food preparation, dishwashing, and the like. There's a lot of them in construction, too, as they work for less than Americans, (and not many Americans are seeking construction work anymore, especially relative to the need.) They likely live mostly in low-income or slum housing.

Will Cate म्हणाले...

It's a lame excuse. I've never read "The Origin of the Species" by Charles Darwin, but I could summarize the key points

loudogblog म्हणाले...

"How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." - Ronald Reagan

You have to know your enemy. Even Patton read Rommel's book on tank strategy.



loudogblog म्हणाले...

Rich said...
"4 out of 5 of Trump’s children were born of immigrant mothers, and he claims immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country."

He's talking about people who enter the country illegally and aren't properly vetted.

Jackass.

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

@Christopher B: Trump doubles down on ‘poisoning the blood’ claim about migrants, denies it’s from Hitler’s ‘Mein Kampf’
https://nypost.com/2023/12/20/news/trump-doubles-down-on-poisoning-the-blood-comment/

Senate Republicans recoil at Trump ‘poisoning the blood of our country’ remarks
https://fox59.com/hill-politics/senate-republicans-recoil-at-trump-poisoning-the-blood-of-our-country-remarks/

Republican lawmakers turn on Trump for saying migrants are 'poisoning the blood' of our country and quoting Putin
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12881811/Republican-lawmakers-turn-Trump-saying-migrants-poisoning-blood-country-quoting-Putin.html

People who adore a psychopath will never settle for anything less than the real deal.

Chuck म्हणाले...

MadisonMan said...
I really cannot stand the comparison of Trump with Hitler.
Hitler was directly responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent people. Jews. Gays. Undesirables. Gypsies. The man was evil personified.
Now, list the number of people Trump has killed. Trump actively avoided wars during his 4 years in power. Remember that?
How do you cheapen the horror of the Holocaust, and minimize what Hitler has done? By comparing him to a politician who threatens your power. I remember all the BushHitler talk too.


But we aren’t comparing Trump to Hitler/1944.

We’re comparing Trump to Hitler/1933.

We’re trying to avoid Hitler/1944, by stopping today’s Hitler/1933.

This might be a good place to stop and remember Godwin’s Law. And maybe have the usual laugh about that. But let’s remember, AGAIN, that not only is “Mein Kampf” a thing in current American politics because Trump continues to use Hitlerian language deliberately, but it was Trump himself who received a copy of the Hitler speeches, which Trump himself mischaracterized as “Mein Kampf,” and then dissembled about how and why he came to possess the book, while his former wife maintained differently. See my earlier comment for detail.

This isn’t a case of unhinged Trump critics going off the deep end of some strange imagined Trump/Hitler comparisons. We never made up the “Mein Kampf”story . Ivana and Donald handed that story to the world. Trump has had thirty years to explain his own bizarre little connection to Hitler and he hasn’t done it. The one time he made a pass at it, he dug himself a deeper hole. As he always does. As sociopaths so often do.

Jaq म्हणाले...

BBC reporting on Nazis in Ukraine in 2014, before such reporting was banned in the West by the neocons. Remember what the Rand Corporation said, sometimes Russian "disinformation" is true, but inconvenient.

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1736821922611048763

Jaq म्हणाले...

BBC reporting on Nazis in Ukraine in 2014, before such reporting was banned in the West by the neocons. Remember what the Rand Corporation said, sometimes Russian "disinformation" is true, but inconvenient.

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1736821922611048763

Narr म्हणाले...

Brings to mind Reagan's quip about being anti-Communist: A lot of people have read Marx; anti-Communists are those who understood him.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand what Hitler wanted to achieve.

At any rate, Trump is probably one of the least militarist presidents we've ever had; he accurately described the brass as crybabies and losers anyway, which is more than can be said of his opponents.

Mea Sententia म्हणाले...

He should be on the ballot, and he shouldn't go to jail. Still, his immigration rhetoric is so troubling that I could never vote for him. He needs a Doc Martin in his life to say, "Stop talking."

Rosalyn C. म्हणाले...

@Crack When you post a link sometimes people do check, although in my experience it's not what you claim. In this case your claim is that Conservatives are racists and you are unwelcome, don't stand a chance. That may be true but not because of your race.

To quote from the article about Rob Smith and how he was attacked by white supremacists at a meeting of Conservatives:

"Since he shared the footage, fellow Conservatives have sent messages of support to Smith.

Activist Scott Presler wrote: 'Rob, I’m so sorry you had to go through this. This is completely unacceptable & doesn’t represent the America First vision.'

Christina Pushaw, the rapid response director of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis' presidential campaign, said: 'This is embarrassing behavior.

'All I can say is their gutter trash talk gets rewarded online, and some of them are delusional enough to think they can act the same in real life.'

Republican congressional candidate JR Majewski posted: 'I was there… when I heard the commotion, I stood up for Rob and made sure he got out of there safely.'"

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

"Our enemies want to take away my freedom because I will never let them take away your freedom. It is very simple" ~ Donald Trump

In other words, his freedom is their freedom. His crimes are their crimes.

The people who believe the above are already lost. They will never be free. And that group unfortunately are about 35% of the US voter base.

I have to say I am hugely impressed by the success of the social experiment that was created when Trump claimed the elections were rigged. His popularity around those lies must cement beyond all doubt that the MAGA base are fools without the critical thinking to differentiate fact from fiction.

Meanwhile, Giulliani and Trump's other lawyers are dropping like flies against the mounting evidence of false statements and defamations.

Jaq म्हणाले...

You want to know another funny thing? At the UN Security Council, the Russians demanded an investigation of the Bucca massacre, and a list of the victims. No such investigation has been undertaken, no names have been provided. It almost makes one wonder who was actually behind it.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

I would be disappointed if Jordan Peterson hasn’t read it.

Jim at म्हणाले...

4 out of 5 of Trump’s children were born of immigrant mothers, and he claims immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”

Why do you constantly and deliberately refuse to acknowledge the difference between legal and illegal immigration?

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"And the idiot commenters here spewing the horseshit from their lying mouths are the problem in this country. They are all full of it, and enemies of Patriots in this country."

Sounds dangerously close to authoritarian, even fascist thinking. You scorn opinions counter to yours as lies and "horseshit" and those who hold opinions contrary to yours as "the problem in this country...enemies of Patriots in this country," other ways of saying "traitors." Who decides who the real patriots are and what patriotism is? Who are you to presume who are the "Patriots" and who the "enemies" of those "patriots?"

effinayright म्हणाले...

Dr. Weevil said:

Why does 'tim in vermont' lie so eagerly and so boldly? It almost looks as if he's paid to do so.
***********

Just remember that his full name is Timofei, and it all makes sense.

lonejustice म्हणाले...

The problem with Trump is that he has a tin ear about so many things. Mein Kampf, Hitler, on and on and on. He can say anything he wants to about his support of Hitler's language or the language of the Nazis, and his base couldn't care less. They will just support him more than ever because of his statements supporting Nazis. Even though they are not Nazi supporters themselves.

Another poster noted:

"The issue here is as always.... Trump's clumsy phrasing is a gift to the left.."

That is why he will win the Republican primary, and then lose the general election. But of course it will never be about his comments about Nazis and Mein Kampf, or about his failure to BUILD THE WALL, or his failure to get rid if the Deep State, or his failure to LOCK HER UP!, and on and and on, but he and his supporters will just, as always, say that it was because the election was stolen. Just like last time. And we end up exactly as we are today. Thank you Donald Fucking Trump for destroying our great country.

Martin म्हणाले...

As to who has read what political books, I would guess that almost no one has read Dreams From My Father or any of the other 19 historical fiction memoirs that have Barak Obama's name in the author slot.

narciso म्हणाले...

They have flooded the country with 10 million illegals they have destroyed our wnergy infrastructure crippled our transportation networks damaged our supply chains

Narr म्हणाले...

Title pedant scoring so far:

Dreams From My Father. +1. It's almost always misrendered here as Dreams Of My Father.

Origin of the Species. -1. Darwin wrote The Origin of Species.

Carry on.

Dr Weevil म्हणाले...

And 'tim in vermont' just can't stop lying (12:27pm):

There was no "coup" in Ukraine in 2014 - words have meanings, and coups are military takeovers. It was a popular revolution against a traitor who fled the country without compulsion and was removed by parliament, including most of his own party, after his men had brutally murdered hundreds of citizens and he realized everyone in Ukraine hated him for that. And no, Victoria Nuland didn't have a damned thing to do with it, though she did try to jump on the bandwagon.

The idea that Ukrainians think "Russian speakers" aren't Ukrainian is idiotic: ethnicity and language are not the same thing. Zelenskyy himself is a Russian-speaking Ukrainian, and his Minister of Defense is a Muslim Crimean Tatar. Ukrainians who read such idiocy ask whether the Irish want or deserve to be ruled by the English, since 100% of them speak English and less than 1% speak Irish. Can 'tim in vermont' answer this?

My evidence of Nazism in Russia was not "one questionable photo", it was dozens of unquestionable photos. Does 'tim in vermont' deny that Prigozhin and Utkin both had swastika tattoos? They're very easy to find on-line. And it's clear that Ukrainians who admire Bandera (very far from all of them) admire him for fighting against both Hitler and Stalin for an independent Ukraine, not for war-crimes his men committed. As I've pointed out before, to deafening silence from 'tim in vermont', lots of Americans still admire Andrew Jackson and Woodrow Wilson, but they don't admire them for the Trail of Tears (AJ) or for resegregating the armed forces and civil service (WW), but for other reasons.

By the way, @GeromanAT is a notorious Russian shill, always wrong in his predictions. Fits right in with t.i.v.'s other sources: ZeroHedge, Kim DotComm, and the like. With an intellectual diet like that, it's no wonder his mind is diseased.

Drago म्हणाले...

"As for Trump is a Nazi. Althouse says it all. He was POTUS for 4 years and wasn't a Nazi or a dictator, or an authoritarian. All these attacks are nonsense. Horseshit on steroids."

Wendybar: "And the idiot commenters here spewing the horseshit from their lying mouths are the problem in this country. They are all full of it, and enemies of Patriots in this country. They know who they are. Just read the comments."

Indeed it appears our LLR-democratical Brigade (Rich, C**** and the hilariously incompetent lonejustice) is working a bit of overtime tonight to "conserve conservatism" (wink wink) by twisting the purposeful destruction of our nation by the New Soviet Democraticals and their authoritarian/Cloward-Piven policies as something that is somehow Trump's fault.

Transparent and clearly failing.

I cannot say if these morons were dispatched to Althouse blog by their "betters" or not (a very common and well documented practice of the far left funded by the leftist billionaires (see Reid Hoffman/George Soros et al)), but if they were than I must say, given the poor quality of their (LLR-democraticals) posts and the routine lying, I feel a little insulted....almost as if Althouse blog is viewed by the left as no better than a typical facebook or instagram comments section.

Dr Weevil म्हणाले...

Another far-from-funny thing from 'tim in vermont' (3:17pm):
He repeats obvious Russian lies about the Bucha massacre, which he's too damned stupid to even name correctly. ('Bucca' is Italian for mouth.) He's too lazy to read even the Wikipedia article on the Bucha massacre, which documents more than one investigation and a great deal of evidence that the Russian denials are obvious lies, just like their previous lies about the Katyn massacre.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

'Senate Republicans recoil at Trump ‘poisoning the blood of our country’ remarks'

With very few exceptions, senate republicans are fucking cowards...

farmgirl म्हणाले...

“The problem with Trump is that he has a tin ear about so many things. Mein Kampf, Hitler, on and on and on. He can say anything he wants to about his support of Hitler's language or the language of the Nazis, and his base couldn't care less.”

You, Sir- are an idiot.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

Funny how the October Hamas attack on Israel was never called a Hitler echo.

Hitler is reserved for real jerks, to paraphrase the late Norm Macdonald.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

we need to deport them.
not call them names.

narciso म्हणाले...

yes they enabled this corrupt camarilla, almost from the start, with the burr character being been gelded by mark warner, the man who made his money on the yandex ru exchange,

Iman म्हणाले...

“He’s just really good at pushing buttons."

Cook: “So was Hitler.”

That asshole was of The Left. Like you.

Iman म्हणाले...

Great call @6:54pm, farmgirl!

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"he and his supporters will just, as always, say that it was because the election was stolen. Just like last time. And we end up exactly as we are today. Thank you Donald Fucking Trump for destroying our great country."

So, you're a supporter of secure and transparent elections so both sides can be confident in the outcome. Right?

FullMoon म्हणाले...

The Crack Emcee said...

" Appalling moment gay Iraq War veteran Rob Smith is surrounded by racist mob shouting 'n*****' and 'f*****' on sidelines of conservative conference in Phoenix

If they'll attack a black guy, who will - literally - suck their dick, then I don't stand a chance on the right."

Due to occasional mentions of having been married, you seemed to be straight, not bi.
But, seriously, nobody hates you for it. Do whatever you want, just please keep it out of grade schools.

chickelit म्हणाले...

@Dr. Weevil (6:39 pm). Stop, just stop with your one-sided (and partisan) support of the Ukrainian war. We know that your interest is only sexual/romantic b/c someone you have the continuing hots for lost some property. Get over it. Get over yourself. We used to engage on all sorts of sundry topics on Althouse but lately you’ve become obsessed with only defending the Biden Administration and its faltering Ukraine policy.
By the way, “bucca” is not Italian for mouth; “bocca” is.
Here is an old Italian proverb for you (note that “fica” is Italian slang for pussy):

"Tira più un pelo di fica che un carro di buoi"
Seems to fit your motivations which make no sense to others

chickelit म्हणाले...

“we need to deport them.
not call them names.”

Dems can’t even name them, let alone think of deportation; they are focused on more importation. And do you know why? Because when it comes time to vote, Dems are going to encourage the “asylum seekers” to vote and then try to get their votes to count. It’s pretty obvious.

wendybar म्हणाले...

Robert Cook said...
"And the idiot commenters here spewing the horseshit from their lying mouths are the problem in this country. They are all full of it, and enemies of Patriots in this country."

Sounds dangerously close to authoritarian, even fascist thinking. You scorn opinions counter to yours as lies and "horseshit" and those who hold opinions contrary to yours as "the problem in this country...enemies of Patriots in this country," other ways of saying "traitors." Who decides who the real patriots are and what patriotism is? Who are you to presume who are the "Patriots" and who the "enemies" of those "patriots?"

12/20/23, 4:39 PM


And YOUR Scorn and hatred towards Trump and his supporters along with every Federal Agency, the media and the lying Politicians have divided this country. YOU are on the wrong side of History, and are too dumb to realize it.

mikee म्हणाले...

"Quien Es Mas Macho" was a gameshow in a SNL skit long ago, asking contestants to choose correctly which of 2 people were more manly. Lloyd Bridges and Jack Lord were compared, for example, and of course, Lloyd Bridges was mas macho.

In comparisons to Hitler, it is hard to out-Hitler Hitler. People making comparisons to Hitler should keep that in mind, and probably not use such comparisons except for, say, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Napoleon, and other truly monstrous leaders.

Václav Patrik Šulik म्हणाले...

I recall when Alan Cranston was running for the Senate, some tried to mention that he translated "Mein Kampf." True, but he did so in order to expose Hitler's ideology and agenda. In fact, he was sued by Hitler - see here. (Link to LA Times)

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"That asshole was of The Left."

Hahaha! Nope!

Dr Weevil म्हणाले...

chickelit (10:31am):
Thanks for correcting my error on 'bucca'. It is in fact Late Vulgar Latin for 'mouth', and replaced the standard Classical Latin word in modern Romance languages, but I forgot that the vowel changed in Italian. That does not affect the main point that the massacre was at Bucha.

On the other hand, this statement of yours is beneath contempt: "We know that your interest is only sexual/romantic b/c someone you have the continuing hots for lost some property."

You 'know' no such thing. I have 2 or 3 times here used a Ukrainian professor's story as evidence to disprove the suggestion (by 'tim in vermont') that kicking out all the Russians who moved to Crimea and other occupied territories after 2014 would somehow be 'ethnic cleansing', rather than simple justice. Or rather less than justice, which would demand that Russian occupiers pay 9 years of back rent for the homes they've been occupying without the owners' permission.

I don't know the woman's name, or age, or what subject she teaches, and have never even seen her picture. She's a personal friend of a western Classics professor I follow on Twitter, who mentioned her story. I don't even recall which Classics professor, since I follow hundreds of them (it's my field). The Ukrainian professor's gender is in fact irrelevant: I only call her 'her' and a professor because 'they' is awkward and the Classics professor called her 'her' and said she was a professor. So saying I have the "hots" for her is either a damned lie or a filthy fantasy on your part. It suggests that your political opinions may be based on people's looks. Mine aren't.

I support arming Ukraine because it's the right thing to do. My support may be one-sided, but that's because Russia is committing every war crime known to Geneva on a massive scale. My support is not at all "partisan": neither Biden nor the Republicans have done nearly what they should be doing, and I have specifically and repeatedly damned Biden as well as Congress for not supplying the promised F-16s, M-1s, and ATACMs in sufficient quantity. The administration just sold 500 Bradley fighting vehicles for scrap at $1.00 each and is having them cut up, when they would save thousands of lives if sent to Ukraine. I sure as Hell don't support that.

I'm also not the one who is "obsessed" with Ukraine. I only write about it when (a) it's the topic of an Althouse post, like this one, or (b) someone else, usually 'tim in vermont', drags in already-refuted lies about Ukraine over and over again, like the claim that the Ukrainian constitution has a racial purity clause. It doesn't, he knows that, and he keeps saying it. If you want me to stop telling the truth about the Russian invasions of Ukraine, all you have to do is convince him and a few others to stop lying about it.

Please try to argue like a grown-up if you're going to argue with me.

Dr Weevil म्हणाले...

P.S. Oops! I was thinking this was the Ukraine post a few posts down. In fact, this is one of the many, many non-Ukraine posts where 'tim in vermont' can't stop himself from repeating lies about Ukraine.

Narr म्हणाले...

For myself, I learn a lot from other commenters' expertise in their fields, whether law or literature, medicine or computer science.

But when it comes to history and international affairs . . .



Iman म्हणाले...

“Hahaha! Nope!”

Get a clue, Cook. Hitler was a National Socialist. The Left doesn’t want him associated with their political ideology - for obvious reasons- but that is just too damn bad. ��

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”

—- Adolf Hitler