June 11, 2023

"Scientists in Wuhan working alongside the Chinese military were combining the world’s most deadly coronaviruses to create a new mutant virus..."

"... just as the pandemic began. Investigators who scrutinised top-secret intercepted communications and scientific research believe Chinese scientists were running a covert project of dangerous experiments, which caused a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology and started the Covid-19 outbreak. The US investigators say one of the reasons there is no published information on the work is because it was done in collaboration with researchers from the Chinese military, which was funding it and which, they say, was pursuing bioweapons...."

The London Times reports.

44 comments:

wendybar said...

Got to stop the election somehow, so Trump won't get reelected.

Unknown said...

So... Communist China is responsible for three million worldwide deaths then?

Pshaw.

They killed 15 to 55 million of their own people during the Great Leap Forward.

So don't expect any apologies or explanations any time soon,

Unknown said...

So Communist China killed about three million people worldwide then.

Pshaw.

During the Great Leap Forward they killed 10 to 55 million of their own people.

So don't expect any apologies anytime soon,

Unknown said...

So Communist China killed about three million people worldwide then.

Pshaw.

During the Great Leap Forward they killed 10 to 55 million of their own people.

So don't expect any apologies anytime soon,

mezzrow said...

That's what they were combining then. What are they combining now?

They've learned a lot over the interim, but "don't do this" isn't part of that. That's my best guess, anyway.

Michael K said...

The US was funding it. The bioweapon was funded by our own idiotic NIH. Thanks to Fauci and Birx and other traitors.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

The powers that give us husk crook Biden - same people who purposefully released the perfectly time virus.

pious agnostic said...

Remember when this hypothesis was a racist conspiracy theory?

Ambrose said...

Of course, there was there was time when merely suggesting this could get you banned from some social media and branded a dangerous.

Dave Begley said...

China owes us about $3 trillion. Biden won’t collect it. No one but Trump is even talking about it. I’ll ask Vivek next time I see him. Might drive up to Sioux City for that very purpose.

Dave Begley said...

And why didn’t the NYT or WaPo investigate? Because they are fucking shills for the ChiComs and the Dems.

Jersey Fled said...

Strange that so many of these far right conspiracy theories turn out to be true.

Original Mike said...

Wow. Worse than I imagined (if true).

Goldenpause said...

But Fauci, et al. assured us that only conspiracy theory nut jobs believed it could have been caused by a lab leak. Does this mean they were wrong or (gasp) lied to us? Asking for a friend.

Narr said...

I know Brand isn't everyone's fave, but his recent standup re: wet markets and labs is good.

FullMoon said...

Ya know what? There are still people who will swear the virus came from bats. Some of them actually believe it.

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Tim said...

If it was an accident, the opportunity was taken to eliminate Trump. JOE BIDEN got 81 million legit votes? No sane person believes that. Biden was/is a joke from 45 years ago.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

No fucking shit. Anybody with a brain figured it out three years ago. Don’t act like you’re doing journalism at this late date.

Yancey Ward said...

When the outbreak occurred around the Wuhan Institute, the odds the virus was a lab leak were at least 75% on that evidence alone (higher in my opinion, but let's be generous to the detractors of the lab leak theory). However, when that furin cleavage site with its startlingly improbable combination of codons, those odds immediately went to 99.999% that it was lab created. Everyone who has continued to assert that the origin was natural was immediately confined to two groups- morons and liars.

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Yancey Ward said...

What is worse is that the US government was funding the work that led to this virus' construction. Eco-Health Alliance's head bragged publicly about doing exactly what was done to create COVID- his firm's grant specifically described all the work that one would do with a coronavirus to create COVID-19. Fauci and others at the NIH have repeatedly lied about this and continue to lie today.

B. said...

No paywall
https://archive.is/EvQnc

traditionalguy said...

Quite frankly my dear, every thinking American person figured out the Chinese released their latest bio weapon in fall 2019 in coordination with the Soros owned local election officials to open the door for 30 million fake absentee ballots to be printed and counted with no real signature verification.

See how easy it was to do a coup d’ stat on the American government. No need for covering up 7 shots from five shooters like the CIA used on JFK in 63.

s'opihjerdt said...

pious agnostic said...
"Remember when this hypothesis was a racist conspiracy theory?"

Remember when the hypothesis that chinese restaurants served stolen cats and diseased bats wasn't racist?

tim in vermont said...

This research was openly discussed in the literature

Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research - Nature

The London Times is to MI6 what the Washington Post is to the CIA. It's a propaganda newsletter, and China is the new Russia, so they are working on making everybody hate China now, just like they have flooded with anti-Russian propaganda since 2016. This is preparatory to a war.

The US was involved in this research, and Fauci even redefined the term "gain of function" in order to sidestep legislation that prohibited such research.

Here is an excerpt In an article published in Nature Medicine1 on 9 November, scientists investigated a virus called SHC014, which is found in horseshoe bats in China. The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells — proving that the surface protein of SHC014 has the necessary structure to bind to a key receptor on the cells and to infect them. It also caused disease in mice, but did not kill them.

The first time I posted this, I was told. that I didn't know what "chimeric" meant, so let's ask AI, which *does* know words very well:

In the context of virus research, the term "chimeric" refers to a hybrid entity created by combining elements from different sources. A chimeric virus is one that is genetically engineered to contain genes or sequences from two or more different viruses. This is often done to study virus behavior, pathogenicity, or to develop vaccines and therapies.

Chimeric viruses are frequently used in gain-of-function research, where scientists alter an organism to increase its abilities or to confer new abilities, such as resistance to certain drugs or transmission to new hosts. This can provide important insights into how viruses evolve and adapt.


My goodness, what kind of research has AI been exposed to? This is NOT secret Chinese bioweapons research, it's American funded research.

tim maguire said...

What are we going to do about it?
Nothing, probably.

tim in vermont said...

Quick read of the comments shows how effective this kind of propaganda is. I wouldn't want to live in communist China, but we are stupid to gin up a war with them by believing neocon lies about them.

Propaganda 101: Always blame the other side for whatever you think you have to do, or have done, that you know the normies won't like. What was that item on Instapundit? DARVA? Deny. Attack. Reverse [V]ictim and [A]ttacker? It works amazingly well, and we have been so brainwashed for our whole lives that it's hard for us to accept that we are being manipulated in this way, despite the simplicity and transparency of their methods. It doesn't take a 167 IQ to see what they are doing to us, but it does take confidence in your own IQ, and a willing to bring into your examination facts that they simply omit. Such as that this was openly discussed in the literature, not a "secret Chinese bioweapons" project.

This is how democracies are shepherded into fighting wars.

Enigma said...

Tell me something new. Tell me something that wasn't reported and then censored by March 2020...

BUMBLE BEE said...

Geez, and I read the other day that CDC has a "CIA" group monitoring virus works around the globe. Top drawer intel on diseases worldwide.
Let's see Hong Kong, SARS, Avian Flu etc.
Lotta unaccounted for killing. Inscrutable my ass.

Rusty said...

What tradguy said

rwnutjob said...

My shocked face is worn out

Kai Akker said...

All the pertinent information on Covid-19 was published in the first two months of the pandemic. Not the information on the super-deadly strains still sitting somewhere in the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. But all the rest.

It has taken three years for the establishment media to even begin to state those facts. Even now, it is not one of the U.S. media lapdogs doing so.

Now how about the "vaccine"?

Then, what about the CCP -- the most deadly threat to all other life on earth? Is possession of its bioweapons one of the reasons they seem to be so eager to provoke us into a military misadventure that could serve as their excuse for a war?

Critter said...

Does publication of this article four years after the virus killed millions and changed the course of American politics count as journalism or history writing? NYT and WAPO probably think it’s too early for this report given that there will be an election in 2024 with Trump on the ticket. It will be interesting to watch how they treat this report from the London Times.

Imagine that in a country without a First Amendment the press is freer than in America.

Critter said...

Does publication of this article four years after the virus killed millions and changed the course of American politics count as journalism or history writing? NYT and WAPO probably think it’s too early for this report given that there will be an election in 2024 with Trump on the ticket. It will be interesting to watch how they treat this report from the London Times.

Imagine that in a country without a First Amendment the press is freer than in America.

Leland said...

Will the Twitter Files be admissible evidence for Trump showing the same DOJ elements prosecuting him pushed Twitter and other social media companies the suppress the lab leak discussion as disinformation? It certainly shows a pattern of political partisanship and willingness to suppress evidence.

I know the answer is no, it won’t be admissible. If Trump was the one suppressing evidence of the lab leak to protect China?

Tina Trent said...

Curiously, per the New England Journal of Medicine, the Department of Energy, which for some reason has a role overseeing foreign labs, and the FBI now support the lab theory, but "other intelligence agencies" don't.

Big Mike said...

The US investigators say one of the reasons there is no published information on the work is because it was done in collaboration with researchers from the Chinese military, which was funding it and which, they say, was pursuing bioweapons...

That’s almost right. Some portion of the funding may have come from the Chinese military, however Rand Paul got Anthony Fauci to admit in testimony before the Senate that a large portion of the research funding came from our own NIH, and, specifically, from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) under the leadership of Francis Collins and Antony Fauci, respectively. The funding was made through grants to perform gain of function research which were laundered through an outfit called the EcoHeslth Alliance.

Back in 1972 President Nixon pushed through the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention, ending US research into biological warfare. However some microbiologists continued bioweapons research under the rubric of “gain of function research.” Not all gain of function research increases transmissibility of lethality of a virus, but some of it does just that. Consequently the Obama administration ordered a temporary halt to gain of function research in the US in 2014. Francis Collins quietly got it going again in 2017 (yes, Trump was President) and Fauci even more quietly off-shored research into increasing transmissibility off to Wuhan.

Paul said...

The Chinese killed millions of US citizens... why are we not at war?

tim in vermont said...

"The Chinese killed millions of US citizens... why are we not at war?"

I rest my case.

Jupiter said...

Why are they telling us now? I don't doubt it is true, or at least true-like, but it's not like they pulled down a statue of JEB Stuart and found a time capsule under it with the records of the Wuhan Institute for Virology.

Jupiter said...

The problem with supposing the whole thing to be a Chike plot is that it killed a lot of Chikes. You would think that a primary goal of anyone designing a viral bioweapon would be to make sure it was racist.

Drago said...

Critter: "Does publication of this article four years after the virus killed millions and changed the course of American politics count as journalism or history writing?"

It counts as Andy McCarthy-like writing.

Oso Negro said...

This was obvious to anyone with a modest understanding of microbiology from the beginning. But it was SO IMPORTANT to advance a false narrative, aka "a lie". The problem with liars is you can never trust that they are telling you the truth.