The internal link goes to the AP article "Target’s Pride collection features 'tuck-friendly' swimsuits for adults, not kids," which quotes a Target spokesperson as saying "The 'tuck-friendly' swim suits are for adults only." They may be aimed at adults, but if the sizing fits a younger person, there's no enforcing the concept "adults only."
May 24, 2023
"Target said that customers knocked down Pride displays at some stores, angrily approached workers and posted threatening videos on social media from inside the stores."
"Target declined to specify Wednesday which items it was removing but among the ones that garnered the most attention were 'tuck friendly' women’s swimsuits that allow trans women who have not had gender-affirming operations to conceal their private parts.... Target’s Pride month collection has also been the subject of several misleading videos in recent weeks, with social media users falsely claiming the retailer is selling 'tuck-friendly' bathing suits designed for kids or in kids’ sizes...."
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" Target declined to specify Wednesday which items it was removing but among the ones that garnered the most attention were 'tuck friendly' women’s swimsuits that allow trans women who have not had gender-affirming operations to conceal their private parts...."
They had children's versions of those.
But hey, maybe the young male children "identified" as adult women.
By now it should be crystal clear:
AB-Inbev is not in the business of selling beer.
Fox News is not in the business of selling audience share.
Dodgers are not in the business of selling ticket to baseball games.
Target is not in the business of selling merchandise.
All of these leviathans are not in the business of selling something tangible. They don't - in fact - sell anything...they are in the business of provoking you to accept their values and their version of their culture.
Burn. Them. To death.
"Thoughtfully fit on multiple body types and gender expressions"
is what it says for the kids products.
At a Target in New York City's downtown Brooklyn neighborhood that the AP visited on Monday, the same adult swimsuits shown on social media featured the "tuck-friendly" tag, while a kids' black swimskirt for sale instead had a tag reading: "Thoughtfully Fit on Multiple Body Types and Gender Expressions."
Lol
If we have to clap like North Koreansfor the month long corporate weimerica lgbtbbq, the least they can do is not force us mere proles to start clapping a month early.
Quirl-friendly but not girl-friendly.
Much of what passes for "Pride" celebration is overt promotion of 'abnormal' sexual practices. (I'm using the word 'abnormal' to mean something outside the norm, and as a statistical fact, heterosexual activity is the norm amongst humans. Normal and abnormal are not being used to be judgmental or morally prescriptive, just descriptive. LGBTQ+++ is abnormal in that sense.)
People are getting tired of having their children exposed to this sort of promotion, forcing them to explain to their kids things they'd probably rather not get into. So, naturally, after the umpteenth time having their noses rubbed in it, they react with anger. No big surprise there.
I don't feel any "pride" in being heterosexual; it's not exactly an accomplishment, or anything I've worked to achieve. I can't imagine parading around in celebration of that fact, or asking others to validate me for being that way. Just be who you are, and keep it to yourself and your intimate partner. Maintain your privacy, and respect the privacy of others by not imposing your views on them.
If everybody would just shut-the-fuck-up about their sex life, we could all get along a lot better! Don't ask, don't tell was actually pretty good advice for everyone, not just the military.
Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban.
"gender-affirming operations"
how soft and fluffy.
language it's a virus oooo.
It's so interesting to me how commercialized and wide-spread Pride celebrations have become.
Target Removes Satanic Pride Items Glorifying Violence but Blames Angry Customers for Being Confrontational
"Homophobe headrest" features a talaban-esque guillotine on a kid's size shirt... you know - a message from the left to parents who don't allow the corrupt vile left to sexualize their children at young ages.
Imagine being so stupid you think this is at all comparable with the Taliban.
If transgenderism is is the hill Democrats want to die on, they will die on it. I rarely agree with Bill Maher but he’s correct, this fad is regional. It just happens to coastal elites while proles in productive America couldn’t give the first f$#k.
No garner tag? (BTW, how do you find a list of tags on the AA site? I thought the tags were garnered together in an easy-to-click spot, but I can't find it.)
"Target is removing some items from its stores and making other changes to its LGBTQ+ merchandise nationwide ahead of Pride month after intense backlash from some customers who confronted workers and tipped over displays."
Mostly peaceful protests?
Of course, tipping over displays could cause damages but I'm sure Target has insurance, so it's all good.
Right?
"If everybody would just shut-the-fuck-up about their sex life, we could all get along a lot better!"
The abnormal don't want to STFU. They want to force you to celebrate their abnormalness.
Then post the Video target. You have the most surveillance of any chain other than WalMart. I don't believe the "our employees are scared" bullshit. Your customers are scared to use the dick-optional restrooms from what I've heard. This why traditional mass market retailers have shied away from promoting* satanism and sexual obsessions. It just doesn't have a welcoming vibe for normal people. Like the stupid decision the Dodgers made. Why bring satanic hate-filled fake nuns on to poke your largely Hispanic and Catholic fan base? Why do it?
*Like Bud light they went out of their way to spend precious marketing dollars on promoting something that appeals to less than 1% of their customers, but turns off the rest. Not everyone is offended of course, but this is a very stupid way to run a mass consumer focused business. I'm confused by what they expected to GET out of this dumb shit they are doing.
Moose knuckle can pass as camel toe already.
Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban.
Your mind reading skills are poor. We don't burn shit down like your side. We just quietly go to other stores that don't make it a point of poking us in the eye. You have this power trip about control, much like the Taliban. But we just want to be left alone, which I know is a really hard concept for meddling progressives to understand. If your store wants to worship sexual perverts who strip for children go ahead. I won't be there. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
Good.
Fight back.
This is all corporations understand.
OK maybe Space Mountain wants to burn shit. But he was provoked.
If everybody would just shut-the-fuck-up about their sex life, we could all get along a lot better!
Hear! Hear!
'Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban.'
Maybe it would be good to counter the Democrat KKK.
Inga,
The Target merchandise included lots of eliminationist rhetoric concerning "homophobes" and cisnormative people.
The "Gay" Taliban is far more violent and regressive than any Christian Taliban in your fever dreams.
A major public organization (LA Dodgers) invited a group to perform that puts a loin-cloth clad male as a simulated Jesus on a wooden cross and then grinds on him with sex-simulating acts from drag performers.
No Christians are doing blackface performances, especially with offensive depictions of how shiftless and lazy the black folks are.
All of the overt bigotry comes from the Left.
Inga seems to be yearning for the days of Caligula.
A couple of things:
"customers knocking down pride displays" sounds like every other day in the Bay Area, except those customers are walking off with the goods.
"misleading videos" I saw a still photo of a tuck friendly swimsuit and no mention that it was a child size. I doubt a pre-pubescent boy needs extra fabric to help tuck.
Inga wrote "Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban."
It isn't conservatives supporting the genital mutilation of young boys and girls or lowering the age of consent for sex.
Inga,
"Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban."
This is weird. I've been hearing from your side for years that we are the Taliban.
It's not difficult at all to go on Target's website and see for yourself how they're pushing gay and trans clothing options on children. They are not hiding this. At all. It's out and proud and they're not going any where.
Oh, yeah, they might put those rainbow displays in the back of the store in the Deplorables States ... but they are keeping them.
The children are the future. And they want them. Ohhhh do they want them. The children.
It's not difficult at all to go on Target's website and see for yourself how they're pushing gay and trans clothing options on children. They are not hiding this. At all. It's out and proud and they're not going any where.
Oh, yeah, they might put those rainbow displays in the back of the store in the Deplorables States ... but they are keeping them.
The children are the future. And they want them. Ohhhh do they want them. The children.
Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban.
Bullsh*t. The left is yearning for Sodom and Gamorah, and we are pointing that out. Before we had all this crap our society was moving along quite nicely as a non-taliban nation, and then you all start demanding we care about your freak show and then WE are the ones somehow igniting a culture war.
Yesterday at Dodger stadium, a ma dressed to resemble a woman stripper did a provocative, sexualized dance on and around a person tied to a cross, representing Jesus. Don't give me that f*cking claptrap about the right being the problem. That is pure, in-your-face provocation to demonstrate hate and intolerance, but if I complain I am the taliban?
Tell me straight up that this is inappropriate in a public setting with children present. Otherwise you have no moral ground to stand on.
Was it a mostly peaceful protest?
LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE!!! How hard is that, unless they are pedophiles??
Inga seems to be yearning for a civil war because people don't like children being targeted for Pedophilia and she thinks that is immoral.
- England killed its king, briefly adopted Oliver Cromwell's anti-monarchy vision, and then brought back the king's son as king
- France had the Reign of Terror and their guillotines chopped off heads left and right
- Stalin sent the successful Kulaks (farmers) to Siberia, and the remaining farmers failed to produce enough food. Millions starved.
- China had a Cultural Revolution that killed millions and destroyed many historical artifacts.
- Just 25 years ago the tiny mouse America Online bought elephant Time Warner, and Pets.com shipped 50 lb bags of dog food
The infantile Woke USA Religion adopted a twist on the Christian mantra "the last shall be first." They decided that non-reproductive, mentally-ill, academic failures, social bullies, proven criminals, failures in business, those dependent on public support, and otherwise uncompetitive people must be given E is for Effort medals and declared the bestest and most desirable people in all the land. "We love you all and will make it right. We'll scream and slap anyone who doesn't promote weakness and failure!!!!!!!!"
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it people like me." -- Senator Al Franken
Our wannabe revolution of weakness and dysfunction must self-correct...I'm guessing with unexpected speed and firmness. Failure means failure and it cannot last. Perhaps the turn started with Musk buying Twitter, or with the Bud Light fiasco (the single Mulvaney can sliced InBEV stock by 10%; Bud sales are now down 28%).
"May you live in interesting times."
I went to a Dayton Ohio area Target yesterday morning and the first thing I saw inside the main entrance was a display with a t-shirt with large block multi-colored letters spelling out “Trans People Will Always Exist” up front for everyone to see. I just continued on my way but thinking about it now, I'm not sure it matched the rest of the t-shirts in the display and I wonder if someone pulled it from the sales area and put it where everyone could see it.
Blogger Inga said...
Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban.
When I first read your comment I thought it said "Christian Nation."
But no. It was the dullard again.
Target, owned by the family of former lefty Minnesota governor, Dayton, who hid under his desk on 9/11 and never returned to DC, has always been in the forefront of lefty causes. I think they may have been the first big chain to let men in women's bathrooms.
False flag?
absolutely not a false-flag or hate hoax. No doubt Target did vast market research to see what customers actually wanted, just like the Harvard/Kellog trained executive in charge of Bud Light.
isn't rampant synonym for pride? why would xer want to tuck it away? especially pride month!!
('tuck friendly' women’s swimsuits). I have said it here before: We should STOP calling men who "identify" as women "trans women". They are men, and could fairly be called "trans men", because they are men who choose to be regarded as a sex that they aren't, but they are not "women". The guy who claimed to be a "trans woman" swimmer, and walked around the women's locker room with his balls hanging out, was not any kind of woman.
How many stores were looted and burned down in protest?
It also wasn’t conservatives that just spent two years telling everyone to wear face coverings, not to socialize in public, and trying to keep, children from going to school. But most all, it wasn’t a conservative that gave Afghanistan back to the Taliban.
Russia Collusion Truther and Hillary/FBI Hoax Dossier Dead Ender Inga: "Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban."
Please share the following stats on these supposed Christian Taliban-ners:
- Number of beheadings by Christians
- Number of gays thrown off roofs
- Number of schoolgirls that have had acid thrown in their faces for trying to attend school
While doing that, ponder this:
- Inga declared the MS-13 machete murderers of school girls in NYC to have a "spark of divinity". Inga has neversaid the school girls had a "spark of divinity". In fact, she refused to even write the school girls names when challenged.
- Inga and Howard wailed to high heaven when Iranian General Soleimani was killed by US forces in Iraq after years of Soleimani leading the development of tactics and weapons that killed and maimed a couple thousand Americans.
This is the "quality" of Inga's logic and "consistency".
It was mostly peaceful
If you really want to have fun, remind Inga it took about a year before she would explicitly condemn an islamic supremacist terrorist action WITHOUT tossing in a complaint about US conservatives and/or Christians.
That was quite amazing to behold...but is classic Inga.
Inga
Ah, the Taliban as in the guy who threw pant on a famous sculpture to raise awareness for climate change? The Taliban which had Roosevelt’s statue removed from the Museum of Natural History. Destroying murals in SF. The Taliban had the exact tolerance for opposing ideas as do modern progressives. As do you.
The 'tuck-friendly' swim suits
So much for letting your freak flag fly.
Inga really seems to be going all in on the psycho child mutilation/puberty blocker approach + secretly transitioning kids witbout parental knowledge + lefty states passing laws to forcibly remove young children from parents who disagree with the radical groomer agenda + states that have passed laws approving of non-parents/guardians taking children away from parents and across state lines to obtain this perverted child conversion torture and abuse.
Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban.
I don't understand what you are trying to say here (other than voicing your hate of people with conservative or Christian values). I see the Target kerfuffle as nothing more than parents' backlash against child grooming and child mutilation. Surely you're not advocating for these things?
AP reports >> Target said that customers knocked down Pride displays at some stores, angrily approached workers and posted threatening videos on social media from inside the stores.
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did Target provide video evidence to AP or not needed since it is homestate St. George Floyd
The Taliban may be pro-trans. Iranian clerics say being trans is better than being gay.
And they both have experience chopping of body parts for religious reasons.
Maybe rethink your analogy.
Perhaps another trans/neo expressing empathetic displeasure with Levine et al. promises. Gender can be simulated, but not changed, with an unpredictable progressive condition (e.g. abortive intent, psychiatric dysphoria) in the majority of test subjects.
A trans/bi socially distanced from trans/homo games a la Pulse nightclub.
A trans/homo couplet with a domestic dispute a la sexual intercourse, drugs, and redistributive change.
Or the politically congruent (e.g. "Respect for Marriage Act") who exercise liberal license to indulge diversity (i.e. color judgment, class-based bigotry), equity. and inclusion (DEI).
Perhaps a feminist who cannot abide with Democrats' Choice... uh, choice, for "woman" of the year.
The transgender spectrum is a jealous psychiatric construct full of pride and prejudice.
That sad, the albinophobia represented in Rainbow symbols and rhetoric is of exceedingly poor taste. #HateLovesAbortion
Leftists seem to be yearning to groom children.
Target's CEO has said they're on track for $1.2B in losses this year from rampant shoplifting. I'm expecting that we will soon be seeing corporate America shedding all ties to Trans and Woke ideology.
"OK maybe Space Mountain wants to burn shit. But he was provoked."
As a natural-born pyro, I seldom require provocation. It's more of a compulsion really. Getting to put pride on the pyre is a nice bonus though.
It's good to see the Resistance is at work. Vive la Resistance!
there is a Philippine phrase for this: Walang Hiya. Without shame, a phrase used when you flaunt the rules of conduct that enable society to function.
Ironically the Philippines is gay friendly: mainly because our gays still are seen as part of the extended family, to be tolerated (like second wives) as long as they keep quiet about it.
There is no such creature as a "trans woman". It is a man pretending to be a woman. Even an idiot knows that. If the man cuts off his junk, then he is still a man pretending to be a woman, just mutilated.
MarcusB. THEOLDMAN
Hey! Lay off of Inga. She/her was right about the facemasks!
This one's tucking a tentful:
https://youtu.be/SZmeBcmboSQ
"I'm not sure it matched the rest of the t-shirts in the display and I wonder if someone pulled it from the sales area and put it where everyone could see it."
I'm in Arkansas, and the large display of children's Pride apparel was front and center before Mother's Day. Am curious to go back and find out what is available and where it is in the store.
Tuck-friendly -- corporate America making kids fuck-trendly.
I've been looking for something that flatters my scrote, but isn't too in-your-face. Fishnet, or maybe peek-a-boo . . . And summer's almost here.
"Since introducing this year’s collection, we’ve experienced threats impacting our team members’ sense of safety and well-being while at work"
"Sense of" safety? I sense something else.
"Target said that customers knocked down Pride displays at some stores, angrily approached workers and posted threatening videos on social media from inside the stores."
Those videos were so disturbing that none were included in the article, no doubt.
Seems to be a turd in the "comments punch bowl"
I stopped considering Target for either investment or retail shopping when they decided to open up their restrooms to perverts, and then brag about it. A company that decides this, isn't focused on their business, they're focused on something else. Same thing for Dick's sporting goods and a few other woke/broke mercantilers.
This latest outrage, well....they're being kind to themselves, aren't they? They've decided to pull merchandise and attack their clientele, all in one brilliant swoop. But the issue isn't mostly about gender-affirming, tuck-friendly women's swimsuits, is it? It was the version of tuck-friendly swimwear being marketed to toddlers and small children.
Inbev A-B found out that they can ignore reality, but they can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. Maybe Target will find out the same, who knows? I won't be going there anytime soon. The last time I was there, some years ago, there were more employees than shoppers.
By the way, there are numerous online videos of outraged women holding up swimsuits for toddlers and small children and pointing out, with close-ups, the labels calling attention to the gender/tuck-friendly design features on these products, and then showing the features on camera. Target is just lying and gaslighting the audience if they're saying otherwise, hoping they'll get away with it I guess.
Inga, are you the highest-quality Inga available? The top of the line, the Executive model? Or are there other versions of Inga that maybe could be given a shot?
Drago; I believe Inga is actually an AIChatbot with a number of bad circuits!
She/her was right about the facemasks!
Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study
Facemasks unmasked. The physics of the problem set and solution are even less flattering.
When is "To HELL with Mohamed" Month?
If stores are going to be insulting to customers.. Seems RACIST to live Islam out of it?
'did Target provide video evidence to AP or not needed since it is homestate St. George Floyd'
Verified by CrowdStrike...
Where is the video of customers knocking down the pride displays and threatening staff. I see shoplifters and disturbances at Target on Twitter and my local Next Door all the time.
Sales must be great if department stores swing for the 0.3% population tier.
Are they following, or are they leading? That is the question.
Anyone who puts any credence into AP articles these days needs to have their head exam8 ed!
According to them it was “a car that drove through the Waukesha Christmas parade”.
I could go and on about their BS filled stories.
The images of the Target tucking swimsuits I've seen were not designed for trans-women of stature.
Is there a $ limit in Wisconsin that you can steal without any consequences?
Or Dane County?
As I recall a few years ago a UW administrator said he didn’t understand why shoplifting was such a I’d deal because these big retailers had insurance.
I hope someone can help because I may want to be one of those who shoplifts this disgusting garbage and burn it in my burn oit up north!
"Target is just lying and gaslighting the audience if they're saying otherwise, hoping they'll get away with it I guess."
Progressives lying and gaslighting? Say it ain't so!
Once you've lined up your grandkids for experimental jab(s), what's a little tucking?
The irony is there really can't be that much of a market for this stuff. I mean buying a sweatshirt with a rainbow on it is one thing, buying a woman's bathing suite with a tuck pocket in it is something else. What would make a company, like Target, buy inventory for such a limited market and put up the displays to sell it, knowing they'll aggravate some of their customer base? I would love to know the discussions that went on to accomplish this.
I’ve seen the small size swimsuit. It would fit an eight year old boy. A runty eight year old buy. No grown men or even older teens are that tiny. They are lying through their teeth.
I lived in a Minneapolis suburbs back when they kicked the Salvation Army bell ringers out of their stores. Since then, I have not stepped inside their stores and I turned down an offer of a pretty sweet contract with them.
This whole story was baked into their cake long ago. I'm just surprised it hasn't exploded on them before now. For decades they have been violating the most basic rules I was taught in my business classes in college.
Not LGB, but the trans movement grooming children.
Perhaps ESG is coercing retailers and brewers through bank pressure to act against good market principles? But then what if the retailers or brewers as a direct consequence lose billions in stock value - like Bud Light? Can stockholders sue ESG to recover those lost dollars? Or bring RICO lawsuits?
A few years ago Target tweeted a welcome for men who want to be women to go ahead and use the women's rest rooms at Target. There was a pretty big backlash. Walmart had the same policy, but they did not advertise it or brag about it. Target took a pretty big hit to sales on that one, and Walmart benefitted. The President of Target said after that that he would personally have to review any tweets before they went out. The change in strategy helped, but Target ended up investing millions to spiff up many stores to get their customers back.
Those at the top remember that fiasco. That's why they hit the panic button. They know very well that they already went through a "Bud Light" experience and it cost them plenty. All this stuff about worried employees is nonsense--if they cared about their employees they would close their downtown Minneapolis store.
Seriously, how many tuckable swimsuits can be sold nationwide? Five? Ten? Meanwhile, they no longer carry shirts or pants in my size, the "men's" section is for teen boys, as far as I can tell.
Selling rainbow colored T-shirts is fine, but some of the other crap they put at the front of the store--well, it's just stupid.
"Blogger NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...
Target's CEO has said they're on track for $1.2B in losses this year from rampant shoplifting."
That's funny. He's OK with the looting, but the people who complain about the product selection are beyond the pale.
We hate you Target,
Oh, yes we do.
We don't hate anyone
As much as you.
Shoplifters rip you off --
Boo Hoo!
Oh, Target, eat the screw!
"How many stores were looted and burned down in protest?"
Well. Looting is bad manners. Burning things down in protest is bad manners. But burning a Target to the ground, and salting the Earth it stood on, is just common sense. Like cutting off the head of a rattlesnake with a shovel.
Everything in that article is a lie by omission including the title. How far do you have to read before you find out they are selling Satan worship to toddlers? How about tuckable girl’s swimsuits for girls with dicks? I will never set foot in Target again. Never.
"LGB" are valid PREFERENCES.
"TQ+++" are mental disorders. Adults are welcome to have them, but mentally ill adults SHOULD NOT be allowed to impose their problems on children. That's called "Munchausen's by proxy"; adults imposing THEIR OWN mental problems on their children.
So they were acting just like democrats and blm. How do you like those apples?
At some date far in the future an intrepid historian will pen an addendum to Charles Mackays’ Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds referencing this transgender phenomenon. But it’s going to take a while.
The Macho Response
"Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban."
Well, Inga, that's because you cowards don't harass people who demonstrate that being willing to kill people is a deterrent. Hmmmmm.
I read somewhere that trans kids are like vegan dogs. We all know whose idea it was.
It seems that the Target stores got complaints, and not leftist-style protests, so backtracked these ‘clothes’ clearly designed for children. But it doesn’t matter. The evilness of the woke hive mind like the truthiness of how terrible the right are. Just need an article to ‘prove’ this. Just like Jussie Smollett is ‘proof’ - it doesn’t have to be true.
These vile scum are promoting child abuse and pedophilia. They deserve to be confronted, violently.
"Inga said...
Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban" .You should be careful what you wish for toots, you might get it. However, when the smoke clears, and the dust settles. When the carnage is revealed you are going to be very unhappy, presuming you survive.
Libs are fascist terrorists in word, deed, and belief. Treat them accordingly.
Homosexuality is transgender (i.e. state or process of divergence from sex-correlated attributes). Homosexuality etc are not valid preferences, but they are tolerable. Trans/neogender etc. is also not a valid preference, is not tolerable for children, but as adults, men and women can choose their fate.
Rainbows, in the human context, are albinophobic, as well as anti-black, anti-brown symbolism and associated rhetoric.
The original groomers in schools, churches, scouts, and Hollywood were trans/homosexual males; but, as with all things progressive, their development has been monotonic with empathetic appeals backed by Democratic redistribution of bennies for dead babies, shared responsibility/progressive prices, medical, surgical, and psychiatric trials, [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform, wars without borders, etc.
Political congruence ("=") is a construct adopted under diversity that is inequitable and exclusive (DIE). The "Respect for Marriage Act" is an affirmative policy of bigotry under the Pro-Choice ethical religion. Two men and a womb (Forward!)? Polyamory in darkness (and root cause of the AIDS et al transdemics). Civil unions for all consenting adults.
IF, and it is a big if, this actually happened the protestoers finally learned something from the blm/trans/left. Slowly, then suddenly.
@Inga: Conservatives seem to be yearning for a Christian Taliban.
This is just so tedious and lazy. Do you actually have any reason why little children should be exposed to sexual propaganda from different interest groups whose purpose is to influence the moral/ethical
Leftists are very clear that religious material must be kept out of public schools and their libraries. But as true believers, from inside the heady movement to remake society in their image, they seem unable to achieve the detachment to perceive objectively the evolution of that movement into a de facto religion. The Left’s wokism has the character of a religion in supplying an ethical and moral framework to its adherents, including a teleology of “progress”, a thoroughly articulated soteriology dividing the world into sinners and saved, the morally perfect who will redeem the ruddy bulk of humanity, which is fallen, and a utopian eschatology. Thus the whole framework and its abstruse dogma functions exactly like a religion, with high priests, ritual, a theory of good works, and a plan to spread the good word, i.e., proselytize.
It’s so telling though that the Left is unable to characterize fairly the position of “conservatives” on this issue. The *only* argument—such as it is—I’ve heard from the Left on this is Godwin-adjacent screeching that conservatives are banning books just like the [insert historical bogeyman here]. As with other issues like illegal immigration, 2A rights, and abortion, there is zero effort to meet the opponents’ argument head on, fairly construed and properly elaborated. Instead it is all sloganeering, mantras, and straw men about banning books. But the last time I checked, it wasn’t conservatives banning actual literary classics like Huckleberry Finn or To Kill a Mockingbird from schools because they offend the Left’s religious sensibilities. And conservatives aren’t slapping trigger warnings on content for fragile, infantilized adults.
So Inga, let’s hear it: why do you think that interest groups should be able to place their propaganda, designed to familiarize abnormal (Im using that descriptively) sexual practices and paraphilias, into schools with young children? Conservatives generally believe that the family, religion, and voluntary community bonds should help form a child’s moral and ethical understanding, and that public school should not supplant that. And therefore these books are inappropriate, even above and beyond their graphic presentation of sex, which is completely inappropriate for young readers. So why do you think keeping those books out of schools, at a community’s discretion, is bad? Why do kindergartners need to read about transsexualism and the like?
I guess growing up on a farm makes it impossible for me to suspend belief in our brave new world. When I was a kid, a castrated stallion didn’t become a mare; it became a gelding. A castrated bull did not become a cow; it became a steer. We didn’t castrate roosters because no one could find their balls, but if we did, a rooster still couldn’t lay an egg. Cutting off the balls was just that and nothing more. And a non-castrated bull who “identified” as a cow was still a bull. It wasn’t rocket science or neurosurgery.
There is no magic brain ray that changes the truth about what sex a castrated animal is, and all my Darwinist friends assure me that people are just another kind of beast, except we drive Fords, have internet, and poop in a toilet instead of on the barn floor. Also, my Darwinist friends told me that it’s all about the survival of the fittest (which always seemed like a tautology to me, but I was one of those yeoman Jeffersonian farm boys), so anything with its balls cut off can’t produce offspring, so it’s not fit to survive. Any bull that only bred with other bulls wasn’t fit to survive. At some point, the ball-less and the bulls who try to breed other bulls will go extinct. Why is that something to be proud about?
For this old farm boy, I think we are living at a time of extinction level stupid.
I guess growing up on a farm makes it impossible for me to suspend belief in our brave new world. When I was a kid, a castrated stallion didn’t become a mare; it became a gelding. A castrated bull did not become a cow; it became a steer. We didn’t castrate roosters because no one could find their balls, but if we did, a rooster still couldn’t lay an egg. Cutting off the balls was just that and nothing more. And a non-castrated bull who “identified” as a cow was still a bull. It wasn’t rocket science or neurosurgery.
There is no magic brain ray that changes the truth about what sex a castrated animal is, and all my Darwinist friends assure me that people are just another kind of beast, except we drive Fords, have internet, and poop in a toilet instead of on the barn floor. Also, my Darwinist friends told me that it’s all about the survival of the fittest (which always seemed like a tautology to me, but I was one of those yeoman Jeffersonian farm boys), so anything with its balls cut off can’t produce offspring, so it’s not fit to survive. Any bull that only bred with other bulls wasn’t fit to survive. At some point, the ball-less and the bulls who try to breed other bulls will go extinct. Why is that something to be proud about?
For this old farm boy, I think we are living at a time of extinction level stupid.
I guess growing up on a farm makes it impossible for me to suspend belief in our brave new world. When I was a kid, a castrated stallion didn’t become a mare; it became a gelding. A castrated bull did not become a cow; it became a steer. We didn’t castrate roosters because no one could find their balls, but if we did, a rooster still couldn’t lay an egg. Cutting off the balls was just that and nothing more. And a non-castrated bull who “identified” as a cow was still a bull. It wasn’t rocket science or neurosurgery.
There is no magic brain ray that changes the truth about what sex a castrated animal is, and all my Darwinist friends assure me that people are just another kind of beast, except we drive Fords, have internet, and poop in a toilet instead of on the barn floor. Also, my Darwinist friends told me that it’s all about the survival of the fittest (which always seemed like a tautology to me, but I was one of those yeoman Jeffersonian farm boys), so anything with its balls cut off can’t produce offspring, so it’s not fit to survive. Any bull that only bred with other bulls wasn’t fit to survive. At some point, the ball-less and the bulls who try to breed other bulls will go extinct. Why is that something to be proud about?
For this old farm boy, I think we are living at a time of extinction level stupid.
I previously posted:
"I'm not sure it matched the rest of the t-shirts in the display and I wonder if someone pulled it from the sales area and put it where everyone could see it."
However, this morning's WSJ online had a picture of another display very similar to what I saw so it was most likely part of the nationwide strategy.
Target's problem is not a "Christian Taliban". It is the special protected class that is looting its stores.
@Godfather: “ ('tuck friendly' women’s swimsuits). I have said it here before: We should STOP calling men who "identify" as women "trans women". They are men, and could fairly be called "trans men", because they are men who choose to be regarded as a sex that they aren't, but they are not "women".”
How about “ersatz women” instead?
If you don't like Target's values or what it's selling, why not shop elsewhere!
"If you don't like Target's values or what it's selling, why not shop elsewhere!"
You mean like this...
If you don't like Judge Duncan's politics or policies, why not go listen to somebody else's speech?
Rules for thee, but not for me.
If you don't like Target's values or what it's selling, why not shop elsewhere!
If you don't like that baker's personal moral stance, why not get your wedding cake made at one of the many other bakeries in town?
That argument, that strategy, was rejected utterly by the left - and it would have been a hell of a lot easier to get a custom cake baked elsewhere than to supplant a nationwide discount chain. Why should the right (and the parents of any political stripe who don't think it's appropriate to trans the children) have to embrace it?
bflat879 said:
"The irony is there really can't be that much of a market for this stuff. I mean buying a sweatshirt with a rainbow on it is one thing, buying a woman's bathing suite with a tuck pocket in it is something else. What would make a company, like Target, buy inventory for such a limited market and put up the displays to sell it, knowing they'll aggravate some of their customer base? I would love to know the discussions that went on to accomplish this."
Read past this on my first sweep down the comments, and something tickled the back of my mind... What's the current rate of occurrence for actual LGBTWTFBBQ types in the population? Something south of 3% if you get really generous with the definitions, right?
Note all the propagandizing in the schools, and how some are now reporting up to 25% of the kids reporting feelings of gender dysphoria?
Connect the two facts, and consider the Target marketing, here: What if, just supposing... This was all marketing, to open up new markets for all their kitschy krap they sell? Everywhere? What if the trans thing were just marketing to gin up business for the surgeons and the gender clinics?
Nah. Couldn't possibly be... That'd be... Insane. Right? Right...?
If you don't like Target's values or what it's selling, why not shop elsewhere!
We are. Thanks for the tip.
It's not difficult at all to go on Target's website and see for yourself how they're pushing gay and trans clothing options on children.
Target is an interesting brand name. Especially, when the target appears to be children.
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