३ एप्रिल, २०२३

"Only now — as a student about to graduate — do I realize how few classmates agree with the loudest ones."

"Most of us fall somewhere between or are still forming our opinions. A friend recently told me that 'coming out as a moderate was more difficult than coming out as gay at Stanford Law School.' He eventually moved to San Francisco so he could 'just ignore the madness.' These dynamics are hardly unique to Stanford. My friends in law school at Yale and Harvard, among others, have shared similar experiences...."

Writes Tess Winston, in "With some of my fellow Stanford Law students, there’s no room for argument" (WaPo).

The quietness of people in the middle makes extremism work. They're so busy being invisible that they don't notice — or acknowledge — the role they play.

How easily they internalize bullying:

The far-left students have a dismissive shorthand for fellow students whose politics they consider not sufficiently progressive: “future prosecutors.” The message is loud and clear — prosecutors are the bad guys....

When two students are given a choice to explain from the perspective of a prosecutor or defense attorney how certain evidence should be entered into the record, the first student almost invariably opts for defense attorney; then the other student makes a joke or a comment signaling displeasure at being stuck with the role of prosecutor.... 

८७ टिप्पण्या:

BIII Zhang म्हणाले...

The good news is that Federal Judges are now coming out announcing that they will not hire graduates of Stanford Law School.

Nor should they. This school shouldn't even be accredited by the ABA, as the employees of Stanford facilitate harassment of sitting Federal judges in a thinly-veiled attempt to obstruct justice and to twist the outcomes of ongoing cases before these judges.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

The quaint little notion that both sides in court deserve representation is about to be tested by the Left good and hard. As a wide man said, there are those who fight, those who help the fighters and the vast majority who do nothing. Which will you be in this fight for truth justice and the American way?

retail lawyer म्हणाले...

Law school without arguing! Moving to San Francisco to avoid the madness! When is peak crazy?

I'm pretty sure I couldn't stomach law school in this era.

gahrie म्हणाले...

So again the problem isn't the behavior of the far-Left bullies, the problem is how others react to the far-Left bullies?

Why the hard on for far-Left bullies?

Big Mike म्हणाले...

He eventually moved to San Francisco so he could 'just ignore the madness.'

Out of the third circle of Hell and into the seventh.

Enigma म्हणाले...

Right-wing zeitgeist: Keep our racist, pro-slavery, pro-Nazi kooks in the closet.

Left-wing zeitgeist: Put our racist, pro-identity politics, anarchistic kooks on stage.

The political screw always turns. One hundred years ago the capitalistic-eugenicists said might makes right and the fittest empires proved themselves through victory. In another 10, 20, or 50 years we may return to that viewpoint. China and Russia are well on their way of an empire model, even as Europe and the USA pretend everyone will share and love each other and cooperate with UN/WHO/Green groups.

Rory म्हणाले...

"The quietness of people in the middle makes extremism work. They're so busy being invisible that they don't notice — or acknowledge — the role they play."

It's normal behavior. The crazies are people who get off by pushing - if they actually move someone that's just an extra thrill.

William म्हणाले...

Maybe we should start referring to prosecutors as victims rights advocates....There are more innocent people whose lives have been irreparably damaged by crimes than there are criminals whose lives have been damaged by incarceration....Some time back there was a NYT article about a Nike executive who had committed a murder while in his teens. He managed at some point to turn his life around. He received a lot of fulsome praise from some famous people for coming forward with his story. The moral was that we should strive to overcome our prejudices against convicted murderers. ...A few days later, the NYT, to its credit, published a piece about how the family of his victim received the news about his later success in life. Not well. The mother of the boy he had killed had fallen into a profound depression after her boy's death. She died a few years later. Most of the family, years later, was still haunted by her and her son's death....The Nike executive was a juvenile offender. He served a few years and later went on to a successful career. His later success in life and how it was celebrated was another twist of the knife to that family.

Temp Blog म्हणाले...

"Future prosecutor" is lucrative now. One can simply declare for the Marxists and be owned and operated by Soros and his ilk.

Wince म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Christopher B म्हणाले...

How easily they internalize bullying.

It would be far more accurate to say they internalize being the bully based on the steady drumbeat of demonization of conservatives coming from virtually every authority over them.

The CW has been the German people simply stood aside and let the Nazis do what they wished but deeper dives have shown that wasn't the case. The Germany Army was fully committed to the work of SonderKommandos on the Eastern Front. It was part of their orders to supply and support those units, and the activities were of apiece with what the German Army itself had done in Belgium and France in WWI (even if those incidents were often exaggerated by the Brits and others for propaganda.) This tracks with the similar earlier experience of poor whites fighting for the Southern slaveholders, and then perpetuating the myth of the Lost Cause.

Quite letting them off the hook for being scared to speak up. They are internalizing the orders they are being given.

Wa St Blogger म्हणाले...

I would bet a box of donuts that all those 'defense' lawyers would take the prosecutor role in the Trump trial.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"The quietness of people in the middle makes extremism work."

Not just the quietness, also their rationalizations.

"They're so busy being invisible that they don't notice — or acknowledge — the role they play."

It's not a matter of busyness but of deliberate cowardice.

"How easily they internalize bullying"

Correct. Now generalize to the prog culture war across the nation. Thesis: prog pro-abortion radicalism is one form of bullying.

Empirical question: who is most likely to internalize the bullying?

William50 म्हणाले...

I just read an article this morning that two federal judges, James C. Ho of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit and Elizabeth Branch a United States circuit judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit are refusing to hire Sanford law graduates after the way federal judge Stuart Kyle Duncan was treated when he was shouted down by students.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"'He eventually moved to San Francisco so he could 'just ignore the madness.'"

If he moved to San Francisco to ignore the madness then he's doing it wrong...

wildswan म्हणाले...

Worse than being a woman in a man's body is being a law and order person in the Stanford Law School.

wildswan म्हणाले...

Worse than being a woman in a man's body is being a law and order person in the Stanford Law School.

DavidD म्हणाले...

I suppose it’s good that progressives think prosecutors are the bad guy.

I wonder how much longer that will last, with progressives being elevated to prosecutor by other progressives to take down the system from the inside….

Kate म्हणाले...

So the loud ones prefer rapists and Orange Man as clients.

Until the middle starts flexing we'll continue to live through stupid times.

RMc म्हणाले...

He eventually moved to San Francisco so he could 'just ignore the madness.'

He moved to San Francisco to ignore the madness...?!

Wince म्हणाले...

"Tess Winston is a third-year student at Stanford Law School" who's trying to sound "fair and balanced" ahead of recruitment.

Disabuse me of the perception that this is exclusively a problem of the left.

In the writer's single example of "far right students... hav[ing] an outsize effect," the Federalist Society availed themselves of an established complaint procedure.

"Why Did It Take Stanford So Long To Recognize This Satirical Flyer As Protected Speech? "

The main premise of the Stanford Federalist Society's complaint about Wallace's phony flyer was that recipients would think this was a real event, an assumption that hardly reflects well on the organization's reputation or the intelligence of Stanford law students.

Meanwhile, according to Winston, "the far-left students have a dismissive shorthand for fellow students whose politics they consider not sufficiently progressive: “future prosecutors.” The message is loud and clear — prosecutors are the bad guys. But also: Be careful what you say."

In other words, be careful fellow lefties about what you say, because the the big bad "far right" "prosecutors" might come after you?

Well, how does that square with the DOJ prosecution of Douglass Mackey on one charge of conspiracy against rights for his Vote for Hillary by text parody?

Or that the DOJ has not prosecuted Kristina Wong for her vote by text Twitter post that is still up?

https://twitter.com/mskristinawong/status/795999059987173377?lang=en

MB म्हणाले...

prosecutors are the bad guys

Who thought I would find something the far-left students and I agree on? Kamala Harris, Alvin Bragg, Kim Gardner and Kimberly Foxx are four I would be willing to classify that way. I'm sure I could think of more.

gilbar म्हणाले...

It's GOOD! that the Bright Youth of America, HATE! america.. This will insure its destruction.
Then.. when Whoever takes over (China? Islam?) takes over; The Bright Youth of America won't know what hit 'em.

Narr म्हणाले...

Irony abounds.

Prosecuting for the State is yucky; prosecuting-persecuting in daily life and interpersonal relationships is ducky.

Also, I can easily--very easily--imagine some of these youngsters changing their tune for a GS-12 and the chance to prosecute subversives.

MikeD म्हणाले...

"The quietness of people in the middle makes extremism work." Hearkens back to RMN's silent majority?

Mason G म्हणाले...

"then the other student makes a joke or a comment signaling displeasure at being stuck with the role of prosecutor...."

Tell them they're prosecuting Trump. Problem solved.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

It's true throughout activism that hardly anybody actually supports these people; their influence is entirely the result of a failure of character on the part of our institutional leaders, especially in the universities.

This reminds me of the Netflix show The Chair about a liberal arts college's struggle to navigate the scandal that erupted after a professor made a Nazi joke in class. The show did some things well, some poorly. Well: the embattled professor was a lefty in shock at what was happening, "How can you hate me? I'm one of you!"

Poorly: there was a missed opportunity when the professor held a public forum to talk to the students and try to reach an understanding. It was a disaster, that part was fine. But what they missed was that only about 10 people showed up. That was an opportunity to show that, for all the noise, hardly anybody actually cared. The school's damage control efforts were way out of proportion to the actual scandal because they lacked the courage to stand up to a handful spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum.

JK Brown म्हणाले...

Don't try to blame this on the quiet students in the middle. The professors in the middle for decades remained silent and let this grow. The students risk a left-wing professor screwing them for life. And professors of all types, but especially left-wing professors, will do that. Such is the pettiness of academics.

The solution is what is happening. Denigrate the reputation for having that on your resume. Good non-activist students will apply elsewhere. Make these schools the backwaters they are.

cassandra lite म्हणाले...

Alvin Bragg says hello.

So does George Gascon.

So does Larry Krasner

So does Kim Foxx.

So does et al.

Don't these students read the news? Haven't they heard about "Soros-backed prosecutors"?

Richard Aubrey म्हणाले...

I suppose it might be different if the moderates thought the professors and admin would side with...both sides at least.
The moderates' view tells us about the grown ups.

Ampersand म्हणाले...

This doesn't start or end in law school. Educational and work environments typically impose high social costs on the expression of traditionalist views.

mikee म्हणाले...

The loud classmates will realize their minority standing upon entrance to the working world.

Static Ping म्हणाले...

It is amazing that someone thought that moving to San Francisco would be less crazy. Stanford Law must be far worse than I imagined.

When the anti-bullying campaigns started years ago, it was obvious that it was not an anti-bullying campaign but a bullying campaign directed at persons the campaign disfavored. Results are obvious. This is standard practice among the woke now.

Leora म्हणाले...

A lot of people avoid arguments. Why those people think they want to be lawyers I am not sure.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Every liberal, center-left group is the same. Once a relatively small group of hardcore leftists decide to take over, the "reasonable liberals" either quietly accuquise (sic) or they go hard left.

its why you got the Bolshiviks in 1917, and a Spainish civil war. Most of them just want to fight the Right, or they want to follow the crowd.

Strangely, the center-right is the exact opposite. They're never happier then when they are fighting the "Nazis". It getting them to fight the Left, that's the problem.

Michael K म्हणाले...

The normals stay quiet because violence has been a left wing phenomenon since the 1960s. Garfinkle may say the the right are the domestic terrorists but the violent left shows him to be a liar every week. When do we get to see the tranny "manifesto?"

rcocean म्हणाले...

Its funny how large numbers of Americans REFUSE to do the only thing possible that works and stops the extremists. That is: Organize and FIGHT. But tHey'd rather lose or run away. Or just be quiet and hope the crocidile eats them last.

I don't understand the mentality. But its been that way all my life.

n.n म्हणाले...

diversity, equity, inclusion or rather diversity is inequity, exclusion or DIEversity

That said, diversity of individuals, minority of one. #HateLovesAbortion

gilbar म्हणाले...

meanwhile, back at Stanford
The Other Stanford DEI Scandal
An overreaction to false sexual assault accusations hints at the danger of Biden’s Title IX reforms.

What happened to Judge Kyle Duncan at Stanford University was repulsive and unacceptable, and the staff who aided and abetted it—most notably DEI dean Tirien Steinbach—should be fired.

This isn’t the only scandal on that campus worthy of attention and outrage. The school also faces a criminal case of false sexual-assault accusations. Both instances were complicated by the incessant buildup of nonteaching bureaucrats. Stanford now employs more administrators than it enrolls undergrads—focused on an agenda, not education.

Last month a young Stanford employee was criminally charged with falsely reporting two on-campus sexual assaults. It seems her allegations were part of a revenge plot against a failed romantic interest.

Stanford seems like Quite The Place!

Rabel म्हणाले...

I question her analysis of the makeup of the student body. It seems designed to minimize the activities of the far left by equating activities of the two sides.

Just like the Post's illustration does.

Tom T. म्हणाले...

Judges Ho and Duncan are taking the wrong approach. The only Stanford who would want to work for them are the moderates and the conservatives, and so those are the only students being penalized. Their boycott is a win for the radicals.

Left Bank of the Charles म्हणाले...

Will moderate judges stand up to this intolerance:

“We will not hire any student who chooses to attend Stanford Law School in the future,” Ho reportedly said.

“Rules aren’t rules without consequences,” he reportedly continued. “And students who practice intolerance don’t belong in the legal profession.”

As is the case with the Yale boycott, Ho and Branch’s Stanford clerkship moratorium would not apply to current students, only ones that chose to enroll in the Palo Alto, Calif. area school in the wake of Ho’s blacklist, he said.”

Marcus Bressler म्हणाले...

I am not sure why you think those in the middle who are the victims of bullying by the Left should be criticized for not fighting back. The moderates fear being expelled, shunner, physically assaulted, and blackballed if they dare share an contrary opinion.
They are not in the enviable position (as I am, and many others depending on their age, position, and finances) of speaking up and telling them to phuque off -- and fighting back. I personally have nothing to lose. But when I worked for the USPS as a manager, there was an "investigation" at the Boca Raton P0 of alleged widespread discrimination against black craft employees. You see, even perceived slights because the supervisor verbally told a black clerk to unload a truck and didn't say anything to the white clerk (because he was already on his way to the truck) would generate a grievance and an EEO complaint. The Labor Relations honchos, under pressure by the Clerks' union and the local NAACP figurehead assigned a representative from high-level management, an office of the Union, the EEO manager, the local clerk shop steward, the representative from the NAACP (which had, under the labor contract, no right to be involved in contractual matters between the parties), to conduct one-on-one interviews with all the aggrieved, all the management (even if not involved) and any interested parties that wanted to "say something". When it was my turn: I was a higher-level manager running an annex with 165 carries and clerks, with 6-8 subordinate supervisors, and handling all the mail for four ZIP Codes. I was at the Main Office, site of the grievances and EEO activity, and had sometimes managed the carrier operations there. Remember that this was around the late 80s and Affirmative Action was one of the Five Goals of the USPS in its Mission Statement.
I knew that if I expressed a truly personal opinion, that would be the end of any career ladder. I had a new wife, a 10 year-old daughter and a mortgage. When questioned, I offered that I had never witnessed the type of behavior alleged to have happened. Then they asked me what I thought of Affirmative Action. I replied that my personal beliefs were immaterial, that in my position as a manager (and Labor Relations advocate handling regional arbitration cases on an adjunct basis) I supported all the goals of the USPS. The Union reps tried to press me to reveal what I personally felt, giving me some typical examples of AA in the local area. I stuck to my statement, smiling and being polite. Back then, I had something to lose.
Nothing came as a result of the investigation other that a joint statement signed by the Postmaster and the local Union Chief Steward that they would work together to....you know the rest. The NAACP was not satisfied but we ignored them.
As a youngster, I was bullied quite a bit. I was the perfect victim: very skinny, wore glasses and smart. I also, not knowing what ADHD was as it hadn't been "discovered" yet, used to talk quite a bit and perhaps my 5th and 6th grade classmates did not care for that.
My dad, who was a prizefighter as a young man, tried to give me advice, but I was very frightened of confrontation and getting beat up. Then, in the latter part of high school, I started to not back away from bullies. Getting beat up wasn't THAT bad and I got a few shots of my own in.
That's my long contribution to this comment thread today.
Flying out the LAX in a few hours to grab my GF and drive with her across country back to Florida. It's gonna be a long trip from Malibu to Jupiter.

MarcusB. THEOLDMAN

rehajm म्हणाले...

The good news is that Federal Judges are now coming out announcing that they will not hire graduates of Stanford Law School.

Kind of makes Stanford the CNN of law schools- still here but...why?

Nancy म्हणाले...

I'm so excited I got past the paywall to read the readers' comments! Such as this gem:

"As a woman who is no longer in control of my own body, I find the ideas of respectful engagement with the monsters who annulled my citizenship ludicrous."

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"The quietness of people in the middle makes extremism work."

That and those short skirts they wear.

Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...

"Future prosecutor?"

I'd say that's a big complement. On the whole: who does more to better the lives of poor people: lawyers who lock away criminals that victimize them or lawyers who get those criminals off?

Amadeus 48 म्हणाले...

Nothing new here. The progs were the loudest in law school fifty years ago. But the professors really challenged them with questions that could not be answered glibly and fellow students provided counter views.

re Pete म्हणाले...

"Look out kid

They keep it all hid

Better jump down a manhole

Light yourself a candle

Don’t wear sandals

Try to avoid the scandals"

Rory म्हणाले...

"Its funny how large numbers of Americans REFUSE to do the only thing possible that works and stops the extremists. That is: Organize and FIGHT."

Fight for what - stop bothering me? It doesn't work - fighting forever is not a strategy for normal people. Constitutional change is needed to severely limit the power of the federal government and promote individual freedom. That's not the solution to the problem, but it can push the crazies back for 100 years.

DanTheMan म्हणाले...

Maybe letting people who hate our country teach our children was a mistake?

TRISTRAM म्हणाले...

"He eventually moved to San Francisco so he could 'just ignore the madness.' "

Umm ...

Greg the Class Traitor म्हणाले...

When two students are given a choice to explain from the perspective of a prosecutor or defense attorney how certain evidence should be entered into the record, the first student almost invariably opts for defense attorney; then the other student makes a joke or a comment signaling displeasure at being stuck with the role of prosecutor

What a bunch of morons. Seriously?

The "prosecutor" position is a lot more fun, because (whether or not they actually abide by it in real life) the prosecutor has an ethical and legal duty not to play games with evidence, and the defense attorney does not.

So as the prosecutor you get to discuss Brady issues, etc. Which the defense attorney position does not.

Further, as the prosecutor you get to pretend to be a moral and ethical human being. Whereas as the defense attorney you have to be amorally nd win at any cost.

Sure, that's what these weasels actually are. but wouldn't' it be nice to pretend you're better than that?

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"Maybe letting people who hate our country teach our children was a mistake?"

Who says our children's teachers hate our country?

Oh! You're one of those benighted who thinks telling the truth about our country is hateful. Well, much of the truth of our nation's history is hateful, including history unfolding today. One can only remedy one's failings by acknowledging them.

Christopher B म्हणाले...

@MarcusB. THEOLDMAN

Sir, I would consider what you did in that situation an admirable show of resistance. Focus on the last sentence of the post quoting from the article

then the other student makes a joke or a comment signaling displeasure at being stuck with the role of prosecutor....

These folks aren't even making a token show of resistance simply by answering a question directly and without expressing approval or disapproval of the situation. They are abjectly kowtowing to a vocal minority.

To paraphrase a good American general, the objective is to make sure the other side sees you are standing tall, not giving them a nail they can beat down as an example.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

I’ve been thinking about this post for a while, and I’d like to pose a question. Suppose you were an ardent supporter of extremist positions, but just before you are set to graduate something happens that casts Stanford’s extremists in a very negative light. There are plenty of NGOs that would be pleased to hire young extremist lawyers like you — for not that much money. If you were thinking of a clerkship or an associate position white shoe law firm (or whatever they call the equivalent of a white shoes firm on the left coast), well, they might be less interested in hiring someone with your extremist views. So what do you do?

(1) Steadfastly and loudly hold to your extremism and let the chips fall where they may, or

(2) Suddenly insist that you have been a moderate all along, and keep your extremism under wraps for now.

Hmm. What to do, what to do?

Mason G म्हणाले...

"As a woman who is no longer in control of my own body..."

FWIW, they make do Depends for... well, I was going to say "adults" but maybe that's too optimistic.

effinayright म्हणाले...

re Pete said:

"Try to avoid the scandals"
**************

I tried, but the vandals took the handles.

chickelit म्हणाले...

gahrie said...So again the problem isn't the behavior of the far-Left bullies, the problem is how others react to the far-Left bullies?

Why the hard on for far-Left bullies?


Makes me wonder how Althouse would see herself in a hypothetical Stanford Law scenario: I've long viewed her as a moderate; but she stand up to a far-Left bully or would she blame herself?

Roger Sweeny म्हणाले...

Funny, all through K-16, bullying is a big no-no. Yet somehow law professors don't recognize political bullying.

Mark म्हणाले...

Black listing graduates of certain schools okayed by Conservatives here.

I am sure when the shoe is on the other foot they will love this new policy they approved.

RigelDog म्हणाले...

William said: "Maybe we should start referring to prosecutors as victims rights advocates..."

That's exactly how I have always viewed myself; that's exactly why I wanted to be a career-prosecutor. It was never about sticking it to some criminal, or gloating over a "win." I have quietly cried at times at sentencings when a young man is sent to prison for decades---knowing that this lengthy sentence is necessary for the protection of society, yet also knowing that this man was once a sweet baby who was brought up in shitty, shitty circumstances and it didn't have to be this way.

Lance म्हणाले...

If these students really are avoiding the prosecutor role (and taking one witness' word for it seems awfully silly), then that degrades their training as defenders as well. They won't expect the well-prepared and aggressive prosecutors coming out of other schools.

Mary Beth म्हणाले...

Yet somehow law professors don't recognize political bullying.

The bullies are their flying monkeys.

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

The quietness of people in the middle makes extremism work. They're so busy being invisible that they don't notice — or acknowledge — the role they play.
I think you're being unkind. It's far too easy for someone to be exiled for wrong-thought in a University. Or worse, enrolled in re-education camps.

Ambrose म्हणाले...

Channeling Nixon’s “silent majority” description from 1968.

Narayanan म्हणाले...

The good news is that Federal Judges are now coming out announcing that they will not hire graduates of Stanford Law School.
========
is that allowed/challengeable under civil right law title whatever?

Paddy O म्हणाले...

“The point is,” he said, “that people like you and me, Slartibartfast, and Arthur — particularly and especially Arthur — are just dilletantes, eccentrics, layabouts, fartarounds, if you like.”

Slartibartfast frowned, partly in puzzlement and partly in umbrage. He started to speak.

“— …” is as far as he got.

“We’re not obsessed by anything, you see,” insisted Ford.

“…”

“And that’s the deciding factor. We can’t win against obsession. They care, we don’t. They win.”

“I care about lots of things,” said Slartibartfast, his voice trembling partly with annoyance, but partly also with uncertainty.

“Such as?”

“Well,” said the old man, “life, the Universe. Everything, really. Fjords.”

“Would you die for them?”

“Fjords?” blinked Slartibartfast in surprise. “No.”

“Well then.”

Paddy O म्हणाले...

from Life, the Universe, and Everything by Douglas Adams

These protesters appear with a noise like 100,000 people saying whop and do the damage they can and then leave with a noise like 100,000 people saying foop.

Gospace म्हणाले...

Wince at 11:19 has now posted the exemplar of selective prosecution. And since suspect the recent conviction of a conservative for doing exactly the same thing will be reversed on appeal, another example of the process is the punishment. Parody is not a crime.

IMHO, unless we bring back rope, lamppost, assembly for officials who abuse their office this is going to continue.

Saw a post somewhere yesterday that tolerant liberals had set up a guillotine as a “non-violent “ reminder that we should pay attention to them.

Looks more and more like the question isn’t “Will there be political violence?” but rather when will it start. And who will trigger it so both sides participate fully.

Candide म्हणाले...

“The far-left students have a dismissive shorthand for fellow students whose politics they consider not sufficiently progressive: “future prosecutors.” The message is loud and clear — prosecutors are the bad guys....”

History shows that is all pretense immediately followed by inversion.

Those radical ‘defense’ student advocates are in reality wannabe Robespierres and Vyshinskys.

Robespierre was principled advocate for all progressive reforms, including abolition of death penalty and ‘letters de cachet’ (imprisonment without trial), who quickly transformed into the most notorious judicial Murfreesboro of the ‘Reign of Terror’ after French Revolution.

Vyshinsky was progressive lawyer who became murderous prosecutor at show trials after Russian revolution.

Rollo म्हणाले...

Once upon a time, California used to be considered "laid back" and easy-going. It hasn't been that way for some time now, but the Dream still lives on for some people. If the student had trouble coming out as gay where he was before then San Francisco could have been an "escape from the madness" for him. That's probably what he was talking about when he used that phrase.

Students like activism when it's a vacation -- diversity protest week is like Spring Fling for law students -- but they get turned off by activism when it becomes a career or a purpose in life.

Butkus51 म्हणाले...

Theres a word for it. Cowardice.

A few years ago a 6' 2" 220 pound hockey player was intimidated into sexually submitting to a 5' 6 150 pound guy.

10 years later he blames others.

Cowardice.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

A friend recently told me that 'coming out as a moderate was more difficult than coming out as gay at Stanford Law School.' He eventually moved to San Francisco so he could 'just ignore the madness.'

Coming out as gay isn't hard at all in the young generations, it's actively encouraged. It can cause stress with older generations, maybe, but homosexuality is widely accepted.

Stanford Law is insane -- we all know that. Coming out as a Republican is unthinkable. In the USA we have this weird third party called "Independents" who are scared to be one party or the other and just want to hide. I think that's what is meant by "moderate."

Here's a stand-up comedian in San Francisco handling a woke heckler who tries to stop a joke.

To me that's the question -- not where you are on the political spectrum, but whether your right to speak is respected.

Amadeus 48 म्हणाले...

Human nature in action: You are brilliant! You agree with me.

Candide म्हणाले...

Robespierre was a murderer, not Murfreesboro

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

The students in the middle, or on the orderly right, who do not riot, don't have tenure and normally no say in the operations of the school. Those to be blamed for cowardice are the tenured faculty and administration.

They are and were the cowards who let this happen. Don't deflect blame when you have all the job protections, and extremely unique ones at that.

Rusty म्हणाले...

Robert Cook said...
""Maybe letting people who hate our country teach our children was a mistake?"

Who says our children's teachers hate our country?

Oh! You're one of those benighted who thinks telling the truth about our country is hateful. Well, much of the truth of our nation's history is hateful, including history unfolding today. One can only remedy one's failings by acknowledging them."
Why the hate, Bob? Don't you like living here?

Amadeus 48 म्हणाले...

Is there a silent majority?

Will Nixon be proven right? The Vietnam war plus the draft provided a lot of firepower for discontent on campus back then. What's the excuse today? Failure to honor drag queens?

John Cleese could not be reached for comment.

Drago म्हणाले...

Dumb Lefty Mark: "Black listing graduates of certain schools okayed by Conservatives here.

I am sure when the shoe is on the other foot they will love this new policy they approved."

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Dumb Lefty Mark delivering again!

"I am sure when the shoe is on the other foot..."

That "shoe" has been "on the other foot" for decades.

Critter म्हणाले...

So you’re telling me the mean girls moved from the cafeteria table in junior high school to Stanford Law? Those bullies sound like wannabe popular kids, I.e., kids with poor self-esteem who need to be validated by the popular girls. Our culture appears to be controlled by pussies.

hombre म्हणाले...

"How easily they internalize bullying."

Maybe they're busy being serious students. Maybe it is the job of the administration and faculty to protect the reputation of the law school. Of course, these days, that seems a lot to ask of the lefty dipshits in charge.

As for the disparagement of prosecutors, if Soros and the Color of Change PAC have their way, there will soon be no difference between prosecutors' and defense attorneys' attitudes toward street criminals. However, white non-Democrats will be fair game.

NotWhoIUsedtoBe म्हणाले...

Disagreement is a lot of work.

hombre म्हणाले...

St.Croix'..."Independents" who are scared to be one party or the other and just want to hide.'

Why in the world would anyone want to be identified with either of the parties?

Jim at म्हणाले...

Black listing graduates of certain schools okayed by Conservatives here.

Yeah. How DARE we hit back. The nerve of some people.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

good one, hombre!

(I actually tried to register as an independent in Georgia and they said I had to pick a party).

(I also tried to publish my first pro-life book anonymously and a spirit told me I had to put my name on it)

Greg the Class Traitor म्हणाले...

Mark said...
Black listing graduates of certain schools okayed by Conservatives here.

I am sure when the shoe is on the other foot they will love this new policy they approved.


The shoe's been on the other foot for over a decade, Mark.

now it's going to be on your foot. Hope it pinches