In the wake of her comment, the table quieted a bit as people sensed—the way a constellation of strangers often can—the presence of some minor friction. My seatmate and I turned to the only woman of color at the table, a Black professor, so that she could, presumably, tell us what to think about the whiteness of impostor syndrome....
Yikes. You're not supposed to do that! Bad etiquette!
... though perhaps there were things she wanted to do (like finish eating dinner) more than she wanted to mediate a spat between two white ladies about whether we were saying white-lady things or not. She graciously explained that she didn’t particularly identify with the experience. She hadn’t often felt like an impostor, because she had more frequently found herself in situations where her competence or intelligence had been underestimated than in ones where it was taken for granted.
In the years since then, I’ve heard many women of color—friends, colleagues, students, and people I’ve interviewed on the subject—articulate some version of this sentiment. Lisa Factora-Borchers, a Filipinx American author...
Filipinx.
... and activist, told me, “Whenever I’d hear white friends talk about impostor syndrome, I’d wonder, How can you think you’re an impostor when every mold was made for you? When you see mirror reflections of yourself everywhere, and versions of what your success might look like?”
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Lisa Factora-Borchers, a Filipinx American author, said, “Whenever I’d hear white friends talk about impostor syndrome, I’d wonder, How can you think you’re an impostor when every mold was made for you? When you see mirror reflections of yourself everywhere, and versions of what your success might look like?”
In other words, Lisa Factora-Borchers was guilty of egregious racism / sexism / whateverism. She refused to see the uniqueness of an individual. She only saw the stereotypes of group identity. Such a flawed and poorly developed way of engaging with people!
"competence or intelligence had been underestimated than in ones where it was taken for granted. "
I have to wonder why that would be. Maybe she should read some Thomas Sowell, maybe she has.
Sounds like the "Filiplinix" has no empathy for the struggles all people go through.
Or maybe these people realize they create nothing of value and are desperate to maintain their status as our betters.
I thought the theory was that you eventually became who you pretended to be. That's why it's so important to be a hypocrite.
DIEversity: racism, sexism, ageism, and other class-based bigotry in.... is a religious progression.
That said, diversity of individuals, minority of one.
DIEversity: color blocs, color quotas, and affirmative discrimination... deny your dignity, deny your agency, deny your intrinsic value, and you will no longer be human or humane.
"How can you think you’re an impostor when every mold was made for you? When you see mirror reflections of yourself everywhere, and versions of what your success might look like?"
Because they know - or at least feel - that they didn't earn it, they just got what they have because they fit the mold.
If you can keep your head while all about are losing theirs, maybe you haven't heard the news. Also, (per William S. Burroughs), sometimes paranoia's just having all the facts.
If you believe your competence and intelligence have been underestimated, are you sure about that?
That's incredibly rude.
A bunch of worthless intellectuals sitting around a table subsidized by the useful productive people in our country.
These people are parasites. They do nothing positive that anyone wants and their meaningless existence causes them to hate themselves and the host that they feed on.
I avoided imposter syndrome by being male.
Glad the The New Yorker is offering up this wisdom during Black History Month. When I hear Joy Reid, or Lori Lightfoot, or Nikole Hannah-Jones, or Whoopi Goldberg, or Maxine Waters pipe up on a topic, I often think, "Why, I have misestimated her competence and intelligence!"
Filipinx.
"I also hate the term 'Chinese.' It's so shortsighted, China is a country full of diverse cultures the hans, mongols, etc. That's why I refer to those people as 'Chinx.'"
- ifunny
Imposter syndrome is fearing/feeling a lack of competence, not a lack of acceptance. Being surrounded by a bunch of similar people mirroring what your success might look like makes it worse because you fear that you don’t measure up.
Filipinx.
Tagalog, the language of the Philippines, is a non inflected (ungendered) language. Filipino is the word for a citizen of the Philippines, male and female.
FUD
A Filipinx American sounds like an impostor Filipina American. But, yeah, I'm sure the Filipino American population will go along with Filipinx. It's working out for the Latinx community if by Latinx community you mean mostly white academics and journalists.
As to our Filipinx American's comments, every mold was made for white women? I'm not sure what that means, but it does tell me Lisa Factora-Borchers clearly doesn't intersection.
Today Tyler Cowen posted part of an interview he had with Glenn Loury, a black economist. Loury recounts a conversation with Tom Schelling when both were at Harvard, Loury being young and having just gotten there. Loury pours his heart out to Schelling, saying, "I’m having a crisis of confidence, thinking I’m never going to write another paper worth reading again." But Schelling starts laughing and can't stop. "After a while, he regains his composure, and he says, 'You think you’re the only one? This place is full of neurotics hiding behind their secretaries and their 10-foot oak doors, fearing the dreaded question, "What have you done for me lately?" Why don’t you just put your head down and do your work? Believe me, everything will be okay.'”
A family friend worked for a well-known, and very productive, black professor. He would tell her the same thing. The idea that this only occurs to white people is racist bullsh*t.
I used to know a lot of Filipinos. They were all good people, and the women were mostly extravagantly great. It's sad to see that they have raised children who have become woke assholes, but I guess that's how Americanization works.
Che Dolf: I realize it is politically incorrect to laugh. But I did.
Che Dolf: I am a bad person. I laughed, and I'm probably going to steal it.
We called them Flips in high school. They called us beaners. We still talk.
she had more frequently found herself in situations where her competence or intelligence had been underestimated
She has no understanding of what imposter syndrome is. Whether she is over or underestimated is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with actual qualifications. (Though Amy Farrah Fowler once insisted that you can't have it if you are an imposter; if true, then these self-pitying minority ladies are more, not less, likely to have it.)
In my academic career, I was sometimes--to be frank, too often--the least credentialed, least paid, and least known person around a conference table, but all eyes were on me to solve some mess that the Brass had contrived. Usually it involved the disposition of some bigwig's personal papers, after a handshake at some bigwig shindig weeks or months before I was called in.
After a while, I came to understand that most of those people were imposters, and I always made it clear that I already had a full time (and then some) job.
Was it Ibama who gave her the idea? Or Kamala?
Wondering if you are measuring up is not unusual if you have some pride along with a sense that there are neutral standards and high expectations.
Well I'd like to be able to say that the feelings of impostor syndrome are because of a couple generations of promoting diversity and equity in hiring and promotion, which naturally leads to feelings of self-doubt, but my gut tells me that a lot of these women just naturally have higher levels of anxiety. And while broadly speaking it is bad to constantly feel anxious perhaps those feelings of anxiety drove them to study, prepare, work more than they otherwise would have and thus accomplished more. though I do suspect the pervasiveness of various affirmative action ideals at least contributes to these feelings.
Years ago, I understood the 'impostor syndrome' to be the feeling you had the first few months after being promoted at work. You have the money, you have the position, and you have the responsibilities, but you're not sure you have what it takes to live up to it. It had nothing to do with race or sex. Eventually you get over it.
The Philippines has 3 official languages, Spanish, English, and Filipino (which is a version of Tagalog with vocabulary from the 300 other languages spoken there.) When referring to themselves as Filipinos or Filipinas, most use the Spanish endings.
What a major was of poop. The whole thing was "White lady things to say".
I would hypothesize that imposter syndrome has more to do with neuroticism (Big Five not pejorative) than race.
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