Get excited! Time for a new generation.
— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) February 14, 2023
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February 14, 2023
"I don’t put up with bullies. And when you kick back, it hurts them more if you’re wearing heels."
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"And when you kick back, it hurts them more if you’re wearing heels."
OMG YAZZZ QUEEN SLAY! GRRRRLLLL POWAH! Big girl-dick energy! Super attractive! Not offputting! Electable!!!
I've never worn heels but they do not seem conducive to kicking. When kicking, your weight is mostly on the heel and a high heel would seem to be pretty unstable.
Ladies, is it possible to kick a in high heels?
And why is this chuckrep (Haley) promoting violence? Doesn't she know she is supplosed to reason with the bully or call the police?
John Henry
Ugh. Girl Boss for President.
I wish I trusted her enough to be excited about this.
"I don’t put up with bullies. And when you kick back, it hurts them more if you’re wearing heels."
These people are just trying to be ridiculous.
The Republican Governors Association is trying to tank the Republican party.
They are trying to lose.
No thanks. Might as well elect Lindsay Graham.
“What’s good for Martin Marietta is good for the country.”
So she's gonna run for President by kicking corrupt men in the balls. I can support that. Let's see it.
Is she baiting Trump to attack her?
Your stature is determined by how President Trump reacts to you.
Good luck, Nikki.
That's the same blue the Mayor was wearing when Biden was in town.
There was a time I had high hopes for her. That time has passed.
I'm betting she's actually shooting for V.P..
A little joke at the end.
Oh no! The left are going to lose their woke incel minds.
Better than Biden.
If I don’t go for DeSantis I am going to back Rand Paul. I used to think his foreign policy was too isolationist; now I’m not so sure he was wrong. Maybe he was more prescient than I.
Note that Rand Paul and Ron DeSantis were the only two in the GOP who pushed back against Fauci. They were right and Fauci was lying his ass off.
I like her.
Fighter = Check
Executive experience/governor = Check
Domestic AND Foreign Policy Experience = Check
First woman president candidacy = Check
Younger/energetic = Check
Minority ethnicity = Check
Immigrant parents success story = Check
Family military service (Husband and brother) = Check
Minimal/no scandals = Check
Hey + DeSantis in the field is going to yield a powerful ticket, one way or another.
Not a chance.
Excuse me Ms. Haley, I am not looking for a weathervane for president.
TreeJoe: "I like her.
Fighter = Check
Executive experience/governor = Check
Domestic AND Foreign Policy Experience = Check
First woman president candidacy = Check
Younger/energetic = Check
Minority ethnicity = Check
Immigrant parents success story = Check
Family military service (Husband and brother) = Check
Minimal/no scandals = Check"
Initial instinct on every social issue is to cave to the left = check
Aligns with the globalists that despise the republican base voters = check
Prepared from Day 1 to harness the Power of the Jeb! voters = check
Will do whatever the establishment dictates = check
Not excited.
Quite weary of the professional politician class, and quite wary of Ms. Haley's actual background.
One of the better Republican candidates!
Meanwhile, Politico quietly posts an article about Vivek Ramaswamy. (Gotta practice writing that name correctly.) Never heard of him, but he's in Iowa and he's more interesting than the rest of the dinosaur club.
As President, Nikki Haley would make a fine former Governor of South Carolina.
“Better than Biden.“
…has never been a high standard.
I couldn't make it past the first 30 seconds.
Republicans, you will never out-woke the Democrats. If you begin a campaign ad with racial issues, and how you were the child of immigrants, and you looked "different," you'll gain no followers on the left, and you'll make people vomit on the right.
I think the winning move is to take off shoes and aim the stiletto heel at your opponent's eye. You never see Wonder Woman or Black Widow use such a move, but that's Hollywood for you. It's very effective and more women should be taught how to do it.....Haley is likable and smart. I think she's angling for the VP spot. Her or Sanders would make a refreshing contrast with Harris.
Did Nikki ever get to the bottom of all those horrible redneck republican racists she called out publicly that clearly hung a "noose" (you or I might refer to them as garage door pull handles...because we are redneck racists according to Nikki) in Bubba Wallace's racing garage?
It's important that get cleared up before Nikki gets too far down the road in the
democrati.....er...republican primary.
TreeJoe says:
(Nikki Haley) First woman president candidacy = Check
No.
Belva Ann Bennett Lockwood (1884)
Margaret Chase Smith (1964)
Shirley Chisholm (1972)
Ellen McCormack (1976)
Lenora Branch Fulani (1988)(1992)
Hillary Clinton (2008) (2016)
Carly Fiorina (2016)
Tulsi Gabbard (2020)
Kirsten Gillibrand (2020)
Kamala Harris (2020)
Elizabeth Warren (2020)
Marianne Williamson (2020)
"That's the same blue the Mayor was wearing when Biden was in town."
It's a great color for a political woman. Strong but not distracting, and it seems classic and normal. (Compare the insane yellow Sinema wore at the SOTU.)
I am not sure that she is "better than Biden." In fact I think she's worse. If I had to chose between Biden and Haley, I might have to vote for Biden, and I am not kidding. Not that I wouldn't think that Biden was a terrible choice, but Haley is straight up looking for the US to conquer the world. I am not sure I could sit on my hands and not vote.
"One of the better Republican candidates!" - Inga
Case closed.
"So she's gonna run for President by kicking corrupt men in the balls. I can support that. Let's see it."
That was Sarah Palin in Alaska, and look what they have done to her.
Oh brother.
Screams Jeb! energy
Heartless Aztec said...
"Better than Biden."
That's a low bar, but she's better than nothing, which I'm told is a high bar.
Merciful heavens! She's coordinating harm!
She's such a fake. Vote for Girl Power. Ignore her policies which are "Jeb Bush". Bleh.
We'll know women have reached equality when they stop with the "Vote for me, I'm a girl" and just focus on the policies and their character.
I don't mean this as a slam against Haley, but I'm not sure if East Indians should qualify for POC status. From what I've seen they come from upper middle class or even elite backgrounds in their home countries. They're definitely not part of some huddled masses. That's fine with me. America could use some more smart people who know how to raise smart kids, but the Indian pilgrimage in America has not been fraught with hardship and oppression. I'm looking more at Harris than Haley when I make this observation.
6:30 P.M., FEB. 23, 2023
Vivek Ramaswamy
Meet and greet
The Machine Shed 11151 Hickman Road, Urbandale, Urbandale
This new community of which you, NH, speak, it doesn't include you. The community which we want is actually the old community of greatly restricted/limited government. Trump made an attempt to bring us back to that community and look how the "elite" (we're looking at you CFR) reacted. The elite want big government and more control over all of us. And Democrats and the neocons like you are willing to give it to them.
She's a squish running for VP.
But she illustrates the GOP dilemma: the base despises squishes, but to win in a general election, even assuming that the EC blue wall can be penetrated, you've got to appeal to nice "moderate" women. We're not "extremists"! We're not like those other deplorables! We have minority women too!
It's Trump vs. DeSantis. Everyone else is running for VP.
From Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Miinister of Canada, to Sanna Marin PM of Finland, to Kaja Kallas the Estonian PM, to German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock, to Italian PM Giorgia Meloni, all telegenic women, are leading us into WW3 with their insatiable appetite for war. The men are far more circumspect, well, now that Boris Johnson is gone, but his female replacement was right in line with the war cheerleaders, and before you accuse me of unconscious sexism for that metaphor, just know that I used it advisedly. Oh yeah, the head of the EU is another one, albeit somewhat superannuated.
I used to use the example of Queen Catherine Montour as an counter-example to those who say that if we want peace, we need women leaders, but the modern world is rife with examples of war mongering women. This is why I don't trust Kari Lake. She's fine for the Senate, sure, but beautiful women grown up knowing that they have power over men that doesn't really require much in the way of justification. Men can be slaves to beauty, all of the highly evolved readers of this blog are exceptions to this rule, I am sure.
Cringe-inducing. The whole 'I am a powerful woman' shtick is stale and creepy.
Plus she's a huge squish.
No, thank you...
Nikki Haley stands for a slightly more robust Lindsay Graham-ist national economic and foreign policy, so she's got that going for her...which is nice.
Nikki will really rev up that blue collar vote in the midwest! Oh, wait. That's right. Those are precisely the icky republican voters the GOPe-ers are working to hard to drive away from the republican party en masse.
Only a few comments as I write this. But they mostly seem to confirm part of what was in Stuart Stevens' brilliant and beautifully written NYT Op-Ed of a day ago (I gather that he knew perfectly well what her exact announcement date would be):
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/13/opinion/nikki-haley-republican-party.html
"There is a great future behind Nikki Haley. She will never be the voice of truth she briefly was in 2016, and she will never be MAGA enough to satisfy the base of her party. But no one should feel sorry for Ms. Haley. It was her choice."
Like Stuart Stevens, I was immediately drawn to the comparisons with other recent MAGA darlings. Kari Lake; Sarah Palin; Tudor Dixon. With their histories of, uh, electoral success. (?!) There is of course Marjorie Taylor Greene, sitting in a fundamentally Confederate district in rural northwest Georgia. And Lauren Boebert in a an exurban Colorado district. Boebert damned near lost a Colorado district that tilts R+7.
Nikki Haley can never be MAGA enough for the current Republican "base" (whatever that is now), and anyone who is "MAGA enough" cannot win a general.
No thanks. But, as others here have stated she's clearly running for the #2 spot.
Inga said...
"One of the better Republican candidates!"
Well, that settles it for me. Although it would be nice to get LLR Chuck's views as well.
UGH and EW.
Vicki From Pasadena
Ah, there's Chuck now!
Chuckles, you should realize, the only other person here who subscribes to the NYT is our hostess. So, the rest of us can't follow your link to "Stuart Stevens' brilliant and beautifully written NYT Op-Ed of a day ago".
Say, how do you suppose he found out when she was announcing? These politicians like to give their friends a little advance notice, right? And her friends work for the NYT. She probably met them when she was at the UN. That's in NYC. Turtle Bay.
I was excited about Haley when she became known to me in her term as Ambassador to the UN. I'm less enthusiastic now, but not because of anything she did, really. More, what DeSantis did.
I don't think anything could make me change my mind about DeSantis in 2024. He fought back against Covid authoritarianism and that's what important to me right now. Kids in Florida were in school and having normal social interactions while too many other leaders didn't care about the harm they were doing.
I love how rightists continue to bite off their own noses to spite their faces. It says something (not good) about rightists who continue to reject all but the most extreme candidates. Oh well, that is good for us Democrats. Carry on.
Not better than DeSantis or Ron Paul.
I see now that there was a public but quiet announcement-of-an-announcement for Haley about two weeks ago. So yes, Stuart Stevens and the Times had this one timed.
Birches:
I was going to drive over to Iowa and see her, but Creighton has a home basketball game.
I would have asked her, "Is your campaign a repeat of the Jeb Bush campaign?"
I'm surprised, Big Mike. Rand Paul supports illegal immigration.
Do you? Because that's the existential question in terms of winning the race and actually having a country.
Nikki Haley is just another tool of the WEF.
Her job is to be Ron Desantis's VP.
Their job is to return the Republican party to globalist free trade open borders never ending wars they have always stood for.
Their job is to make it so that it doesn't matter if a Democrat or Republican wins.
This new generation sounds an awful lot like the GOP of 1985.
Don't get me wrong, I like Nikki Haley. She'd be 400x the President that Biden is. But to say that we need "fiscal restraint" is to fundamentally misstate the problem, so badly that I have to question her judgement.
The American people are catching on to the fact that the DC/Davos ruling class hates us and our way of life, and are determined to end it by any means necessary. We need a leader who understands that and can respond. Trump did it. Desantis appears capable of doing that. I'm not sure Haley is up to the challenge.
(But you know who might be? Tulsi.)
Chuck, you misunderstand the fact that Trump won because MAGA ideas appealed to a good many centrists worried about the extremism of the left and job security for Americans. The hardcore conservatives had to be dragged in to support him, and the GOPe had to be dragged as well.
Eight years of non-stop demonizing means this probably won't happen again.
I believe Jonah Goldberg's wife is one of her advisors. Will she be able to deliver the "people think I'm a Republican but I'm not" voters?
Shorter Nikki: I am woman, hear me roar. She's a quitter too. Got "national" recognition for tearing down "bad" statues, but only at night, then got more notice by quitting the governorship to take the U.N. ambassadorship offered by Trump, only to resign a year and a half later. Took a job on Boeing's board only to quit soon after too.
If we need a quitter in chief she's a great candidate.
you know what's Wrong, and STUPID, about the republican 'party'?
LOTS of 'republicans' won't vote for her.. Because she's 'not conservative enough'
Jo Biden will get reelected.. Because Nikki is 'not conservative enough'
Speaking as a card carrying republican... Republicans are STUPID
Some 'republican' said..
I WANT to lose, SO MUCH; If I had to chose between Biden and Haley, I might have to vote for Biden, and I am not kidding.
Banned Commenter LLR Chuck: "Only a few comments as I write this. But they mostly seem to confirm part of what was in Stuart Stevens' brilliant and beautifully written NYT Op-Ed of a day ago..."
Stuart Stevens "officially" and publicly left the republican party in 2020 and became an official democratical, though Steven's had ALWAYS been aligned with the democraticals on every major policy issue for decades.
Democrats like LLR Chuck love the guys that pulled off that fake "republican" charade for years....for obvious reasons.
I think it’s good that she is running. It will have a clarifying effect in showing who supports America First and who is RINO. It will also draw Democrat money, reducing the pool available to put up negative ads against Trump and, possibly, DeSantis.
But Hailey has a snowball’s chance in South Carolina in summer.
@Tina Trent (10:57),I was not aware of that. Let me do some research and get back to you. Deal breaker if he still holds that position.
She’s been to my house. I have to say…no…
Achilles, I just don’t get your hard on for Desantis. I realize you don’t live anywhere near Florida, but the people who live there and in Georgia and Alabama etc…see him a whole lot differently and they are just as or more badass than you. Your hysterical ranting about him is…weird. And wrong. I love me some Trumpster, but even if we lived in an honest society, he just couldn’t shut the fuck up even a little. It cost him big. I watched the first debate with Biden with a real life ultra-MAGA buddy. When it was over we knew he had just talked himself out of a few million votes. That’s not the only reason, but it is A reason why he lost.
"If we need a quitter in chief she's a great candidate."
Well. I can certainly think of a lot of things the government should quit doing.
"Conservatism" won't have anything at all to do with whether President Biden is reelected.
Biden will be reelected:
~ If Trump wins the GOP nomination. (Good chance of that.)
~ If Trump, under felony indictment, loses the nomination to DeSantis, yet refuses to concede and continues to run on his own apart from the GOP. (Good chance of that, too.)
Personally, I'd be delighted to vote for a conservative -- Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger -- instead of Biden. But I'll vote for Biden over any MAGA candidate.
Having watched the MI-3 Congressional race up close, I can see it as a model for 2024. In the MI-3, the Republicans had a great candidate, Rep. Peter Meijer. Ivy league, U.S. Military, personal wealth, young, articulate, conservative. But he voted for Trump's second impeachment.
Meijer was primaried by a king of nobody from a midlevel Trump Administration job; John Gibbs.
In the primary campaign, the DCCC ran ads calling Gibbs someone who was "handpicked by Trump to run for Congress," and that Gibbs is "too conservative for West Michigan." The Dems knew exactly what they were doing. Running those ads (all true), they knew that they would excite the Trump base for Gibbs. It worked. Gibbs won the primary with the unlikely, clever, DCCC ad support.
Then, in the general election, having gotten the the candidate whom they wanted (Gibbs), the Dems won the general election. Hillary Scholten, brand new to Congressional races, beat him easily; by a whopping 12.9 percentage points.
What would make me happy to see Trump get the nomination again would be the prospect of beating him again.
Thanks Big Mike. But basically any candidate who is vetted by Club for Growth is forced to be open borders and to refuse to comment on it honestly. That was every single candidate in 2016 except Trump. I would have loved to support Ted Cruz, but he is deeply beholden to them, and Rand Paul is one of their main voices in Congress.
CfG is the Kochs and a few more billionaires who make more money with every new immigrant, legal or illegal, rich or government dependent. When I briefly worked for AFP, their national organizers openly mocked the citizen activist people they were astroturfing. And they were all former Jeb aides. Remember the Gang of Eight debacle with little Marco? CfG orchestrated.
It's too bad. I so wish Herman Cain was still alive and well.
Go away, Nikki.
Blogger Inga said...
One of the better Republican candidates!
Thanks for weighing in, Inga. Now, I've been warned.
Chuck promised to tear the CJR a new one on their report on media lies about Trump, now he has the perfect news hook with the Politico story and he is over here pining for the days when neocons and sworn enemies of the working class ran the party. People would respect you more, Chuck, if you just admitted that you are a Democrat now, like Inga, and Haley.
The important thing is she has the balls to oppose Trump. I hope there is a big field of brave souls that throw their hat in the ring so Trump looks like an idiot taking potshots at all of them. ( I voted for the guy twice, but his time has passed.)
I'm on board. I get that she probably won't win the nomination - but I'm glad she's entering the fight.
Whether it's my apolitical book club or apolitical former co-worker friends, they know who Nikki Haley is (John Bolton? Mike Pompeo? who are they???) and they like her.
Dems will try to smear her, of course, but she's like DeSantis - knows how to deal with and/or ignore the media and wokesters.
Dave Begley said...
6:30 P.M., FEB. 23, 2023
Vivek Ramaswamy
Meet and greet
The Machine Shed 11151 Hickman Road, Urbandale, Urbandale
Their stuffed Pork Chops are pretty good
She should get the types that don't care what the President does, they just want to like the person. She's a vet, she's got brown skin. She's a woman etc. Its like choosing a Doctor based on how well they dress and whether they are fun at parties.
That she can't win, isn't really popular with MAGA voters, and is just a Female Mitt Romney on policy is irrelvant.
Haley v Harris would be an interesting contest, but Meatball Ron will roll over her.
In one tweet, here is why I want DeSantis over Trump. What else needs to be said?
DeSantis gets things done. He zeros in on key issues and gets past the bullshit to take action. And he and his team know when they'll see a massive coordinated attack on what he's doing and they are so prepared, they know how to handle it. So far.
Trump got things done as well. And he also could not stop creating shit along the way. With his record of accomplishments he should have swept into a second term. But his mouth, his uniquely not-normal behavior keeps millions from not voting for him again. Not to mention the millions who obsessively hate him already. He cannot win again.
That said, if DeSantis falters, you will see the GOP establishment and many independents move toward Haley. She should not be dismissed.
I used to have a generally favorable impression of her but haven’t paid too much attention. Recently I see her being dismissed as an establishment type which I’m inclined to believe.
But what surprised me the most was her lack of charisma…I couldn’t get halfway through that clip, it was so boring and her cadence was so weird. And then I noticed, too, apropos of the comparisons here to Jeb Bush….
Her tweet starts off with “Get excited!” Hopefully she’ll instruct us on when to clap, too.
No.
Russia Collusion Truther and Hillary/FBI Hoax Dossier Dead Ender Inga: "One of the better Republican candidates!"
Once again, as always, lunatic lefty conspiracy moron Inga and LLR Chuck joined at the hip.
Gee, its almost as if LLR Chuck and Inga completely share the same political philosophy or something........
LLR and Whitmer Fanboy Chuck: ""Conservatism" won't have anything at all to do with whether President Biden is reelected."
LOL
LLR Chuck is pretending to comment "authoritatively" on actual conservative stuff again! It's like letting a 2 year old sit in the drivers seat of a car.
Critter: "I think it’s good that she is running. It will have a clarifying effect in showing who supports America First and who is RINO. It will also draw Democrat money, reducing the pool available to put up negative ads against Trump and, possibly, DeSantis."
There is indeed some big democratical donor money behind Haley along with the usual suspects like Singer.
Hardly a surprise.
minnesota farm guy: "I hope there is a big field of brave souls that throw their hat in the ring so Trump looks like an idiot taking potshots at all of them."
LOL
Yes, it takes a very great deal of "courage" in this society to oppose Trump. That's why so few do it!
Let it burn down. At this point, what difference does it make. We are slowly burning, and it isn't going to get any better if we don't fix fraudulent elections. It's over.
Eva Marie - I meant if she was elected she'd be the first. She's a candidate to become the first female president. I realize my original language was imprecise.
donald: "Achilles, I just don’t get your hard on for Desantis. I realize you don’t live anywhere near Florida, but the people who live there and in Georgia and Alabama etc…see him a whole lot differently and they are just as or more badass than you. Your hysterical ranting about him is…weird."
Achilles, and others, have been perfectly clear as to the basis for their concern/distrust of DeSantis and on what specific issues are involved.
It's been repeated over and over again.
It's a bit tedious to have to write the same answer to the same questions every single day.
At this point, after having had this conversation every day for over a year, most of us have given up and now just say "we'll see soon enough", because we will.
Until then, DeSantis' record of being a Paul Ryan clone on economic policy/China engagement/foreign policy-forever wars/failure to attack the deep state, etc remain until proven otherwise.
And I'll just end with this. The same question that is asked every single day but is never answered by early DeSantis supporters: If DeSantis is supposedly going to give us "Trump policies without the Trump drama", how is it that the entire DeSantis presidential advisor team are typical DC insiders and 95% of all DeSantis funding comes from billionaires/groups that are in passionate opposition to Trump policies in all of the above areas?
How is that going to work? Gee guys, thanks for the $2.5Billion for my campaign...but now I'm going to go in a direction that every one of you oppose!
Go ahead donald. Explain it to us. Use small words if you have to.
Better than Biden, Harris, either Clinton. Seems very reasoned with her approaches. Her UN stint was very good. Trump was a tiring boss, though his policies were very good for the USA.
I am woman hear me roar / something something to ignore.
You go along with it if you want to get laid.
As a woman I loathe women in politics or business who use female centric symbolism like high heels to push their agenda. As far as Nicky I don’t mind her as a backbencher but no way would a I support her as president or DeSantis, Cruz, Walker or even Trump as much as I dislike his behavior sometimes.
This must be bid to be offered Vice President. I think she would be ok, even good as a VP with a strongly conservative president. But she would fold and take the knee if she wasn’t surrounded by conservatives. Just as she did in SC.
One of the better Republican candidates! - Inga
And that's all you need to know about how shitty of a candidate she really is.
@ Drago It takes a certain amount of courage to put yourself in a position to be shit all over by Trump. If we don't get Trump off the board for 2024 we are doomed to another 4-8 years of Dem madness. Haley at least has the courage to join the fight early on. Trump, as many have said, had the potential to be a great and transformative president, but could not keep his mouth and ego from spoiling it all. Given that, I can not see any reason to give him another chance to f**k up.
’Personally, I'd be delighted to vote for a conservative -- Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger -- instead of Biden.’
Never stop, Chuckles. If you didn’t exist, we’d have to invent you.
"Meatball Ron"
"Shutdown Ron"
"Ron DeSanctimonious"
Nice media splash! Well done!
John henry said...
“I've never worn heels but they do not seem conducive to kicking. When kicking, your weight is mostly on the heel and a high heel would seem to be pretty unstable.
Ladies, is it possible to kick a in high heels?”
Nope. You really can’t, for the exact reason you offer. Which is why it’s better to learn to throw a punch and know where to land it for max effect.
No dice on a vote. She cucked on the issues of the SC state flag and the disavowal of Confederate statues, and I don’t trust that she would have the interests of Heritage Americans at heart. Just another member of the Chamber of Commerce GOPe.
Drago @ 8:38am had the right of it.
Personally, I'd be delighted to vote for a conservative -- Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger -- instead of Biden
Now you're just trolling people.
minnesota farm guy: "@ Drago It takes a certain amount of courage to put yourself in a position to be shit all over by Trump."
People have spent years literally lining up to be "s*** all over by Trump". There is astonishing money and support to be had if one is seen as an enemy of Trump.
Your ridiculous assertion is so demonstrably wrong on its face it requires no further comment.
minnesota farm guy: " If we don't get Trump off the board for 2024 we are doomed to another 4-8 years of Dem madness. Haley at least has the courage to join the fight early on."
It's not "early on". There are other candidates that have already launched their campaigns as well. Official announcements follow years of prep work and are perfunctory.
Further, if you think any of the other candidates will pull in the rural, blue collar and working class voters that Trump has you are sadly mistaken. At least as things have stood for the last 10 years and as things stand now. Let us know if that changes.
Besides, it probably doesn't matter since the GOPe-ers have teamed up with the dems to allow the dems to steamroll the election processes in so many places they have turned the Presidential races into a corrupt near lock for the dem.
minnesota farm guy: "Trump, as many have said, had the potential to be a great and transformative president, but could not keep his mouth and ego from spoiling it all. Given that, I can not see any reason to give him another chance to f**k up."
Trump has his faults but he was ONLY stopped by the brigade of sabotaging GOPe-er/McConnellites that folks like you seem to want to reward for completely selling out to the dems/establishment. Ryan and McConnell knew from the beginning that all the collusion lies were just that, but they played along. Ryan and McConnell were not about to give the republican base any policy wins and they didn't.
But you want to just wish all that away. Pretend it never happened and let the same corruptocrats continue their selling out of the US.
Because of course you do. Hey, no Mean Tweets!
As mentioned many times previously, the Trump Card is the biggest Get Out Jail Free Card for the sellout GOPe-ers that has ever existed in the history of politics.
And minnesota farm guy is one of the reasons why that is.
Beasts of England: "Never stop, Chuckles. If you didn’t exist, we’d have to invent you."
LLR Chuck was already "invented". He is simply Adam Schiff by another name.
Except, of course, that overall Adam Schiff is not quite as big a liar or as big a leftist as LLR Chuck.
So, you know, apologies of a sort to Adam Schiff for the comparison.
We should all stand with @BubbaWallace today against the cowards who secretly put the noose in his garage stall. Watch your back cowards. Bubba has a bigger army than you do. #HateWontWin #WeStandWithBubba - Nikki Haley
No wonder Inga likes her.
"If we don't get Trump off the board for 2024 we are doomed to another 4-8 years of Dem madness."
What do you mean "we" farmer boy?
“I don’t think [Trump’s] going to be in the picture,” she said, matter-of-factly. “I don’t think he can. He’s fallen so far.” […] “We need to acknowledge he let us down,” she said. “He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him, and we shouldn’t have listened to him. And we can’t let that ever happen again.”--Nikki Haley, Feb 2021
”Out of respect I would never do anything to go against [Trump], he knows that. I would have a conversation with him and talk to him about it should we decide we want to pursue it; but, um, no, I have a great respect for him, and I would never consider running against him.” ---Nikki Haley, April 27, 2021
"courage"
Dear Trump Humper Twins -
Trump sucks. Eat it.
Go Away, Plumpie Trumpie
Trump's former big billionaire donors are leaving him... and now, according to DeSantis haters - these same donors are, magically - very bad people. Very bad people.
So sayeth Trump and his pathetic hangers on.
@Tina Trent, I think Rand Paul has evolved his position over time. I think his Ill-fated BELIEVE Act is well-aligned with my own position. I don’t get that he is for open borders, at all.
12:24 - What Temujin said.
a loser and a quitter. Quit being governor for a better job, quit the UN for unspecified "personal" reasons. She gives the hard working, never get a chance to quit, working moms a bad name. Like the Alaska governor before her, wouldn't vote for either one, even if they are women. Wouldn't vote for a man who did the same thing. Quitters and losers.
Vicki from Pasadena
HBTPFH: "Dear Trump Humper Twins -
Trump sucks. Eat it."
Once again, as always, HBTPFH can't rise above her emotions and fundamental ignorance of the political reality on the ground.
Not surprising.
Recall that HBTPFH told everyone over and over again that the democraticals so desperately want Trump to be the republican nominee that they, the democraticals, would not go after Trump at all on bogus legal charges.
Reality: the democraticals are moving heaven and earth, and at full speed, in attempt after attempt to legally sideline Trump.
A normal thinking person would take in that information and adjust their prognostication accordingly. But not HBTPFH. That is far beyond her capabilities as she demonstrates daily on these pages.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker: "Trump's former big billionaire donors are leaving him... and now, according to DeSantis haters - these same donors are, magically - very bad people. Very bad people."
No matter how many times you write this, like your peer Inga, its not going to make it any less false and any less relevant.
You'd better start figuring out how to answer the question of how it is DeSantis is going to throw over all his globalist donors after taking their money which represents 95% of his total take thus far.
I mean, if you were a thinking person you might do that. But you aren't so its a task that will have to fall to someone else.
Temujin: "DeSantis gets things done. He zeros in on key issues and gets past the bullshit to take action. And he and his team know when they'll see a massive coordinated attack on what he's doing and they are so prepared, they know how to handle it. So far."
Give us a preview of what that will look like in terms of the following, remembering of course that DeSantis was a pure Ryan clone while in the House of Representatives:
- Attacking the deep state apparatus that has declared war on conservatives
- Stopping the forever wars and curtailing the Military industrial complex
- Building the wall and returning illegal immigration numbers equal to the number under Trump
- Aggressively taking on the ChiComs across the Board and in particular in terms of nationalist economic policies, reshoring of jobs to America, squeezing supply chains to reduce ChiCom influence, etc
I could go on but that's enough for now.
Keeping in mind of course that ALL of DeSantis' major donors and entire campaign staff oppose EVERY ONE of those items. But only every one of them.
Besides, its essentially the same question, in a different form, that gets asked every single day of early DeSantis supporters but for some reason never gets any answers.
I suspect we never will get that answer.
Tell us how Trump and his family are not .... globalists.
You cannot do it - can you, Humper?
Haley can win a general election. That’s job one.
Haley can win a general election. That’s job one.
Haley can win a general election. That’s job one.
Hunters hooker was drunk commenting last night. A bunch of gobbly gook. Put down the drinks before you embarrass yourself more.
Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
"Tell us how Trump and his family are not .... globalists.
You cannot do it - can you, Humper?"
No need to gat personal.
He financed his own campaign?
We weren't handing tens of billions to Ukraine.
He wanted NATO members to pay their own damn way.
If DeSantis were smart. And his donors were smart. They'd wait for 2028.
Drago, nobody asked you anything, Achilles is quite capable of speaking for himself. But as long as your windbagging let me point out that unlike yourself I have a personal life that does not consist of commenting on the Ann Althouse blog. I’m old, probably not as old as you, but I’ve been around the block a whole lotta times. I don’t know Desantis staff, but I do know he had no problem kicking the single biggest employer in Florida’s ass and it seems to be a pattern. I spend a lot of time in Florida. The fact of the matter is that what was a 50/50 state is now the gold standard for state governance and there is nowhere, not even Miami, Orlando even Fort Lauderdale that is not in the Republican column. We’ll see what happens, but Trump, whom I totally dig will not win the presidency again and he’s just spiteful enough to destroy whoever will get nominated in his place. So go, scour that internet boy. Make up some more stupid words and no matter what, you do post your 75 times today.
Ha, saw your post on this thread addressing Temjuin. Not a Lot he can do about any of that as a congressman or governer, but the bottom line is he has a record as governor. It’s spectacular, and man do you need a
life outside of your basement. Now, I’m going fishing.
Last thing. List ALL of Desantis staff and donors. Right here, right now.
Rusty -
Trump took in all sorts of big donor money. What are you talking about?
Trump cannot win and will not win - so why should any other candidate wait?
Trump did some good things- but he mires himself in drama. That's a losers game.
Now - he only fights his own team. Another selfish loser move on his part.
(that begs- so these so-called evil donors are only evil if they DON"T give to Trump.)
@ Donald-
" but Trump, whom I totally dig will not win the presidency again and he’s just spiteful enough to destroy whoever will get nominated in his place."
Indeed.
The political reality on the ground is basic. Trump's ship is sinking fast. He will never win another election - even if he does somehow win the nomination.
The democrats and their media WANT Trump to be the nominee. They know how to handle him - as Trump walks into every trap. That Trump is out there trashing and name-calling everyone on team R - who refuses to kiss his ass - makes Trump a democrat asset.
donald is a very old, cranky, clearly retired fogey who has l0ts and lots of questions but never has any answers, so The Question That Is Asked Everyday But Is Never Answered will clearly have to wait.
Because of course it does.
But to humor donald, here's a few quick rejoinders:
- Why dont you know the names and donors for DeSantis when you are so strongly supporting him at this early state? Are you content to maneuver in the blind in all things?
- I can crank out 75 posts in a day in 10 minutes total while standing on my head. Althouse blog is my mental diversion/relaxation bit during the day.
- My personal and professional life, I suspect, is much more full than yours, given I have my own business and run a non-profit on the side (and we are just now heading into the busiest time of year for the non-profit (Mar thru July). Given my work and travel schedule I don't have much time for fishing or golf or shuffleboard or bowling or telling BS stories down at the VFW. Not that there's anything wrong with all that.
- I don't spend much time in the basement because my younger kids took it over long ago and turned into their laboratory/programming/flop lair.
- I might retire in about 10 years once all the youngest ones are out of the house.
- Why is it that only Inga, LLR Chuck, HBTPFH and you are concerned with the number of my posts in a day. I wonder if there is a thread of commonality amongst you 4?
So tell you what donald, you just keep fishing there pal and guys like me will keep on grinding. Just keep fishing....and keeping yourself in the dark. It appears to be a "gift" that you and HBTPFH possess.
But to make if fun, here's a little homework for you and HBTPFH (though we both know the very next time HBTPFH looks something up it will be the first time):
1) Look up Nick Iarossi of Capital City
2) Spend your normal 1.76 seconds deeply pondering Capital City's position within the lobbyist firmament. AT that point you'll still be confused but you'll just have to live with it.
3) This is a fun sidebar task: See if you can figure out what role Iarossi might have played in getting Sheldon Adelson to kick a few bucks over to DeSantis in 2018 before Adelson's death and why Adelson might have been listening to Iarossi in the first place. You'll still be confused but at least you might be able to ask intelligent questions.
4) Ask yourself why Ken Griffin of Citadel and the Koch brothers and all the other anti-Trump billionaires are all in on DeSantis and what policies they generally support.
5) After you've done all that, which isn't much at all but for you might be a mountain of work, see if you can answer The Question That Is Asked Everyday But Is Never Answered.
You won't of course. Too hard.
FYI, I'm typing this while on a client meeting which is taking far too long with the preliminaries. I might have to post 74 more times today just to get thru the introductions!
This is for donald:
Only 73 more posts for the day to go!
More from Nikki Haley:
"We should all stand with @BubbaWallace today against the cowards who secretly put the noose in his garage stall. Watch your back cowards. Bubba has a bigger army than you do. #HateWontWin #WeStandWithBubba"--Nikki Haley, June 22, 2020
Censorship by tech companies, esp censorship of conservative opinions,violates the spirit of the law & the 1st Amendment. But more regulation would go too far in the other direction, putting bureaucrats & lawyers in control of what gets said online. Either way, free speech loses."--Nikki Haley, June 25, 2020
"Mass Immigration “Makes Us Great”--Nikki Haley, May 5, 2019
"We spent the last couple of days celebrating our son’s graduation. Tonight I turned on the news and am heartbroken. It’s important to understand that the death of George Floyd was personal and painful for many. In order to heal, it needs to be personal and painful for everyone."--Nikki Haley, May 29, 2020
Yep. Nikki Haley, the "fighter" the republicans "need"......if your need is to have a republican leader who spends all her time attacking republicans and internalizing democratical talking points.
Hey, I know what we've been missing! Another John McCain!
Hey donald, how many more posts do I need to hit my quota today? 72? 73? Gotta be less than that by now, but if might paraphrase Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry:
"Uh uh. I know what you're thinking. "Did he post 5 posts today already or only 4?" Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a fully charged Dell laptop with an i9 Tiger Lake-H microprocessor, the most powerful laptop processor in the world and would blow your delusions clean off, you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?"
Wow. 18 posts by Drago on just this single topic. You can tell a Trump supporter knows their guy is going down when they start strafing their comments.
Ah - and there it is -->the little lie ... from Drag Queen.
Nikki never said "Mass" immigration makes us great.
She said what every other pol says "Immigrants are the fabric of America"... "It's what makes us great"
The liar right (that's you, Tree house) twisted her context and pooped out a lie.
Here it is - you can watch/listen for yourself.
Most families immigrated here upon our founding... and since. We are a nation of immigrants.
So - it's sort of benign statement. I think she could be stronger here on the topic of illegal immigration. she is much too careful in her wording. But don't lie, Drago. If you lie - which is what you and the tree house fan boi Trump-only crowd likes to do - it takes away your already thread-bare credibility.
lonejustice: "Wow. 18 posts by Drago on just this single topic. You can tell a Trump supporter knows their guy is going down when they start strafing their comments."
It's very important to focus on numbers of comments when you are not able to answer even basic questions.
Keep up the good work!
"It’s what makes us great. We need as many immigrants as we can. We need the skills, we need the talent, we need the culture. We need all of that."--Nikki Haley
"We need as many immigrants as we can." Open borders are us.
Here's an alternative opinion: No, we don't need "as many immigrants as we can".
Nikki has made her preferences quite clear.
I'm not surprised the McConnellites are out in force today to defend this position, but here they are. Remember guys, you are supposed to at least pretend to be against that until AFTER the primary!
Next question for HBTPFH and the rest of the Dolt Brigade (not that any of the other questions were ever answered...Spoiler--they weren't): why is it that the roughly 215 million adult Americans and their 65 million children NEED "as many immigrants as we can"?
We'd also need to throw in another half million workers let in that have taken white collar jobs as well, sometimes after being trained by the American citizen workers who then lose their jobs.
Well, we all know the answer don't we? Because that's what the wokesters at the Chamber of Commerce along with Ken Griffin, the Koch brothers, Mitch McConnell and the Ryan/Romney's of the world want. So all the little GOPe-er suckups fall into line.
Quick aside: all those folks are strong backers of DeSantis.
Why do you suppose that is?
lonejustice: "You can tell a Trump supporter knows their guy is going down when they start strafing their comments."
Then all your problems are solved and you should be dancing a jig and throwing a party!
Why aren't you?
Calling those of us who refuse to kiss Trump's ass "McConnellites" is another one of your lies.
We allow immigration, Drago. Even Trump allowed legal immigration. You know that - right?
The quote going around is:
"Mass Immigration “Makes Us Great”--Nikki Haley, May 5, 2019
That is a fake quote.
Lone Justice-
It's hilarious, too. Drago thinks he's being persuasive. Trump had his good points, but the bad points and his general Un-likeabilty are going to sink him.
Doesn't matter how many time Drago yells "McConnell Ryan COC Globalist!"
The other thing that sinks Trump is his stale trademark name-calling. People are over it.
His terrible personality, and droning voice, overwhelm his good ideas. I'm a realist - winners do not act like Trump. Sadly.
I too want an outsider - but I'd prefer someone who fights, and doesn't dick-step.
The real DOLT brigade? Trump Humper - Ever Trumper morons.
Well Drago - vote for Trump. No one is good enough but the dick-stepper.
I too want less legal immigration and NO illegal immigration.
I also want a fighter.
Trump is a loser. So - with Trump we get a democrat. You should be happy!
HBTPFH: "We allow immigration, Drago. Even Trump allowed legal immigration. You know that - right?"
Haley was quite specific in that she wants as much immigration as possible. You can shade that as much as you'd like but it doesn't change it.
"We need as many immigrants as we can".
I know that you are not accustomed to thinking for yourself and you are loathe to oppose your establishment betters, but I'll ask anyway: do you agree or disagree with the statement "We need as many immigrants as we can"?
(note: there was "legal" vs "illegal" distinction there, is there?)
I suspect you won't have an answer to that.
HBTPFH: "Drago thinks he's being persuasive."
It is not possible to persuade you out of a position you hold because you are emotionally attached to it. Based on your posts, you are no more capable of looking at the raw facts of a situation and coming up with an objective assessment then you are of flying to the moon.
I get it. You don't want Trump. Others you know don't want Trump. Fine. Its a defensible position. At least I could defend it. You don't appear capable of effectively doing it.
I support the policies that were pushed by Trump during his administration. Show me a better candidate who will push the same policies in the areas I'm most concerned about and I'll support that candidate. Go ahead. Name them. It's going to be a very, very short list.
If you mention DeSantis, I have questions based on his record in the House of Representatives (of which you remain blissfully unaware). I don't trust what I saw there. He was essentially Paul Ryan's puppy. I don't trust his current cast of advisors or his current major donors or many of those who voiced support for him that are in positions of influence.
It's not complicated.
HBTPFH: "Trump is a loser. So - with Trump we get a democrat. "
Oh, so today is a HBTPFH "Trump is still going to win the primary" day.
Its hard to keep up with you guys.
On some days Trump is such a loser he won't even get into the race! On other days Trump does't have a chance! He's all washed up! No one will vote for him!
On the remaining days Trump is a juggernaut that no other Republican can stop in the primary.
I don't expect consistency from you guys, but you could at least be courteous enough to provide a Schedule Of Today's Absolute Truth's so that some of us can follow along. After all, its difficult to follow the game without a program.
But my favorite HBTPFH lunatic reading of the each day's tea leaves is her bizarre insistance that the democraticals are so desperate to make Trump the Republican candidate that they will leave Trump alone to help him along......when the daily reality is democratical partisans across the nation at all levels of government are fighting tooth and nail to frame Trump for something, anything, to get him out of the 2024 race.
It's like a daily tidal wave of evidence and facts that washes over HBTPFH and drowns her previous idiotic theories and she doesn't even notice, much less even try to understand why that is happening.
Drago - You've told us you don't trust DeSantis over and over.
We've heard you.
HBTPFH: "Drago - You've told us you don't trust DeSantis over and over.
We've heard you."
How many times do you think you've told us you don't want Trump?
You're not very good at introspection.
Whenever I see you cutting the GOPe-ers slack, as you seem to do all the time, I'm going to mention it. When I see you dropping decades of GOPe-er backstabbing onto outsiders, I'm going to mention it.
I really don't care if you like it or not.
But you go right ahead with your Blog Monitor activities. Perhaps you and donald and lonejustice could get armbands denoting your self-appointed roles.
Make sure they are spiffy and "official" looking.
Drago - you lie. You call anyone not sufficiently pro-Trump a "McConnelltard".
Boring. Like Trump!
Oh I still think Trump has a good chance to win the Primary. (The D's will make sure of it)
He will not win the general. I've been consistent on that. You liar - DRago.
HBTPFH: "Oh I still think Trump has a good chance to win the Primary. (The D's will make sure of it)"
LOL
While they do everything possible to keep him out of the primary and out of the general.
Your being wrong is about basic things right in front of you is what is boring.
Look into that.
I'm happy as a clam and I'll support any Republican running in 2024.
2016 was a nightmare for me. It was Darth Vader vs. Cruella de Vil. I had to vote for Marijuana Simp and his Baby-Killing Veep. Which is the moral equivalent of not voting at all. Oh, what a trauma 2016 was for me.
I don't know about you guys, but by 2020 I was pretty damn convinced that Trump is a Republican.
So 2020 was a cakewalk.
2024 will be even easier. Damn if y'all fanatics are going to suck me into some intra-party squabble. They're all wonderful! I'm not picky! Go Big Red!
I vote pro-life so I like the Texas statute. What I would like to see are Republicans who understand the focus.
You're not outlawing a surgery, okay?
You're protecting a human life. Talk about the baby, over and over. Sincere pro-lifers are a boon to our society. The movement is not just writing criminal laws but changing hearts and minds.
And every pro-lifer should talk about Plan B in rape cases. Pro-lifers should fight for Plan B and fund Plan B, and explain the difference between emergency contraception and the abortion pill (RU-486). Pro-lifers also need to be brutal on liars in the media and remind all reporters that they have been hiding the bodies for 50 years. And ask them why. Ask them why they've been deceiving the American people. Republicans can go very, very far by attacking the media.
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