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"Some Latino voters say the Republican Party supports their hopes for economic advancement."

"That is the case for Luiz Oliveira, 63, an immigrant from Brazil who owns three coffee shops in the Las Vegas area. 'I came here with a dream to live the American dream, and many other immigrants have the same dream,' he said. He said he is wary of Democratic policies that seem too much like socialism. 'Socialism will kill my dream, kill my business,' he said. The Journal poll, which included a large sample of Latino voters, found that views within that group differed by education level. Latino voters with a four-year college degree substantially favored a Democratic candidate over a Republican—61% to 32%—whereas Republicans led or were at parity among those with lower levels of formal education.... 'Black working-class and Hispanic working-class people have a lot more in common with white working-class people than many people have been willing to believe,' said Ruy Teixeira, a demographer at the American Enterprise Institute who writes often on the subject." 

From "GOP Gaining Support Among Black and Latino Voters, WSJ Poll Finds/Republicans appear to be in a better position with both groups heading into the midterms than they were in 2020 or 2018" (Wall Street Journal).

For more from Ruy Teixeira, here's "Hispanic Voters on the Eve of the 2022 Election/Hispanic Voters Are Normie Voters and Normie Voters Aren’t Happy." I was going to blog that a few days ago, but I got so sidetracked into the use of the term "normie"! He writes:

In short, they are normie voters. And like other normie voters, if they feel Democrats are falling short on the things normie voters care about, they are more than willing to punish the party they hold responsible.

I know the word. It's not difficult, but it seems disparaging — both to the "normies" and to the "non-normies." It does get your attention though. In my case, a word that sticks out gets way too much of my attention, and I was rooting around in the OED. It's defined as "colloquial (originally U.S.)/A conventional or ordinary person, typically as contrasted with members of a specified group or subculture; spec. an able-bodied person as contrasted with disabled people."

And the first published use of the word is in a 1950 article in The Atlantic by Al Capp. Al Capp! This is an American pop culture hero I've followed since childhood. I had to read the story "Young Van Schuyler's Greatest Romance," an account of Capp's own life:

To the Simple — that is, to adults — there are two kinds of kids: Normal Kids or “Normies”— that is, kids with the normal number of legs, arms, eyes, or pounds — and “Poor Kids” — kids with something terribly wrong with them, some instantly recognizable and terrible handicap that makes it impossible for Normies to associate with them as fellow beings, like being stone-blind or completely paralyzed or racially ridiculous.

But to Kids there is a third kind of kid: those “Other” kids who have handicaps that aren’t quite shocking or pitiful enough to prevent them utterly from being considered as fellow beings by the Normies, but whose handicaps make this consideration a tiresome and unwelcome effort; handicaps that don’t quite take them out of the cheery and untroubled Normie world, but keep them hovering uncertainly around the fringes of it things like having only one leg, or being grotesquely fat, or being racially peculiar.

The Normies are the lucky and blessed, because while there doesn’t have to be anything particularly right about them, there isn’t anything particularly wrong. The Poor Kids aren’t really so badly off either, because their handicaps are so spectacular that, long since, they have given up any hope of ever being admitted to the world of Normies, and their own special world is made pretty comfortable for them by the special treatment given ’em by everyone. It’s the Others that have the bad time; for the things that are wrong with them are not wrong enough to destroy all hope of ever being admitted into the world of the Normies — just wrong enough to make Normies uncomfortable when they are around. Not that the Normies aren’t darned nice to the Others. They are extra polite to ‘em; they are extra careful to avoid any subject remotely related to the [thing] that makes the Other not quite a Normie; and they are always in an extra hurry to get away from them to the untroubled company of other Normies.

And so while Bootsie and I were both Other kinds of kids, only I knew that we both were. She was looking at me as though I were a Normie. And so I behaved as no Normie ever behaves, except with another Normie. I treated her like a girl....

What made Capp an "Other" was the loss of a leg. From Wikipedia:  

In August 1919, at the age of nine, Capp was run down by a trolley car and had his left leg amputated above the knee. According to his father Otto's unpublished autobiography, young Capp was not prepared for the amputation beforehand; having been in a coma for days, he suddenly awoke to discover that his leg had been removed. He was eventually given a prosthetic leg, but only learned to use it by adopting a slow way of walking which became increasingly painful as he grew older. The childhood tragedy of losing a leg likely helped shape Capp's cynical worldview, which was darker and more sardonic than that of the average newspaper cartoonist. "I was indignant as hell about that leg", he revealed in a November 1950 interview....

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RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

Well we're certainly not the party calling them breakfast tacos.

Owen म्हणाले...

I'm shocked, shocked, to learn that voters in whom the entrepreneurial spirit has not yet been destroyed by a college education, are not rushing to vote Dem: and that this preference has nothing much to do with race or ethnicity etc. Who could have imagined it?

Put another way: getting a liberal arts degree is a sure-fire way to ruin your political mind, no matter who you might be.

mccullough म्हणाले...

On Wednesday Biden will announce he’s going forward with The Wall

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The GOp needs to do a better job. They should buy a Spanish Speaking AM radio station and play music and do Spanish Speaking Rush Limbaugh/Political commentary.

n.n म्हणाले...

Latino? LatinX? Hispanic? HispanicX? Surely, Latina-Americana, or Hispanica-Americana, no? Americana, yes?

People of Brown, perhaps? What is the politically congruent term?

Baby? Fetus (a technical term of art for social distance)? Fetal-Baby (1-2 compromise)? People of Pink (i.e. color bloc)?

The wickedness of Diversity [dogma]... one step forward, two steps backward.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The left's response? More lies... more division... more racism... more lies.
More false promises.... more bribes....

MB म्हणाले...

People share more with others in the same economic class than they do with others who only share the same skin color? Someone needs to tell them that's not the way we do it here. They need to learn to join the proper tribe and know their place. If they strive to be successful, it makes the rest of us look bad.

Mattman26 म्हणाले...

"Racially ridiculous . . ."

Wow, that one doesn't sit very well today.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Kurt Schlicter, in his novels, uses the term "normals" and I think it is appropriate. The whole Democrat shtick lately has been anything but normal. Compulsory vaccine for a flu-like illness? Climate hysteria that has defied science and statistics for 50 years ? Dismantling the basis of modern civilization to end "fossil fuel." Unlimited and unverified illegal immigration ? "Modern Economics" that teaches you never have to pay back debt ? Gender "fluidity" and Drag Queens in kindergarten?

None of that is normal.

Kate म्हणाले...

What is "racially ridiculous"? Hahaha!

Capp's missing leg would demote him out of "Other" in any current first world country.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

In short, they are normie voters. And like other normie voters, if they feel Democrats are falling short on the things normie voters care about, they are more than willing to punish the party they hold responsible.

"Normie" - These are the people who live paycheck to paycheck. The ones who work the jobs, collect their pay, believe they're gliding down the highway when in fact they're slip sliding away.

"Abnormie" - These are the people who suck the life out of the normies by collecting their pay from taxes, student loans, kick backs, and welfare checks paid for by the normies, while riding down the highway on normie backs speeding up the slip sliding away.

I fully expect the majority of college educated white women to remain in the "abnormie" category...even though many of their husbands, sons, and grandsons are destined to remain normies for the rest of their lives.

If you are a white male over the age of 40, this will make perfect sense to you. If you are under the age of 40, you will come to understand this soon enough...

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"Wow, that one doesn't sit very well today."

Right. People would be more careful. But you can see what he's saying. It's not his opinion that some races are ridiculous. He's attributing the opinion to the "Normal Kids," the people who've pushed him down into the "Other" category because he'd lost a leg.

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

The Mexican immigrants I have interacted with still see society as untrustworthy like it was in rigged Mexico. In these hard working but still borderline poor communities you can trust nearly no one and always do your business in cash. Once they learn about acting like gringos, they still don’t trust anyone and do their business in cash.
The Dems have been exposed by the Trump Pro Americans as the riggers that cannot be trusted. And the Dem inflation attack is wiping out their cash as we speak.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

If you google the phrase "racially ridiculous," you'll see it used to refer to people who are being ridiculous on the subject race (and not to mean belonging to a racial group that is thought to be ridiculous).

ElPresidenteCastro म्हणाले...

Ruy Teixeira has a lot of skin in this game. His "Emerging Democratic Majority" doesn't seem to be emerging and he failed to anticipate that Hispanic voters would become normies (also a word that I hate). Now he is trying to cope with his once very popular book and political meme being proved false.

n.n म्हणाले...

People who identify as republican and capitalist who want to retain the product of their labor... look out for Green deals, redistributive change schemes, and single/central/monopolistic solutions that drive progressive prices.

Perchance Constitutional a la Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness without Diversity [dogma] (e.g. racism, sexism, ageism), Inequity, and Exclusion (DIE) doctrine.

Enigma म्हणाले...

The popular use of "normal" has two origins, and they are rather different.

1. Normal as regular, ordinary, natural, God-given, correct, or standard. Think morality and religion. Think rules and laws and arbitrary criteria.


2. Normal as derived from statistics and probability theory. In this world, "normie" derives from "norms" which derive from "normal distributions" aka bell-curves. These are completely based on literal roll-of-the-dice statistics or "Monte Carlo" simulation research. One gambling die has 6 equal outcomes from 1 to 6. Two dice have 12 possible outcomes with most clustered in the middle and only rarely landing on the lowest (2) or highest (12) outcomes.

When a statistician or social scientist or otherwise mathematically-minded person says "norm" or "normie" they are probably talking about #2 but not realizing it'll be understood as #1 in the general population. [Insert activist angst about alternative sexual identities and numerically smaller racial/ethnic groups, but norms are norms and bell curves are incredibly reliable and common factual science. Laws of nature. Laws of humanity. Laws of economics. Etc.]

Statistics and norming: Probabilities of dice rolls with tons of math; this becomes a bell curve with a broader range of options/participants.

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1204396/why-is-the-sum-of-the-rolls-of-two-dices-a-binomial-distribution-what-is-define


Bell Curves and Normal Distributions (Norms; Norming):

https://www.simplypsychology.org/normal-distribution.html

Achilles म्हणाले...

"Normie" means compatible with Society.

There has to be a social contract that we all generally agree on to form a society.

If you are outside of that you either undermine/change society or you are suppressed. A society requires suppression of the incompatible or it becomes something else.

These immigrants wanted to move here because we had a high trust society that allows people to build things without various criminals and corrupt government officials to take their stuff.

Immigrant Normies don't want high crime open borders massive inflation endless wars censorship etc. because that is where they came from and that is the historical norm for almost every society in the world.

Meade म्हणाले...

mccullough said...
On Wednesday Biden will announce he’s going forward with The Wall

And that Hunter will pay for it. Out of the Biden crime family’s ill-gotten gains.

Mike Sylwester म्हणाले...

Hispanics are figuring out that their Democrat votes benefit disproportionately Black (not Hispanic) politicians.

The Democrat Party will have to promote Hispanic politicians more -- at the expense of Black politicians.

It's the Blacks own fault, because they have gone along with mass immigration of Hispanics. As a consequence, Hispanics are rising to become the #1 minority in the Democrat Party -- and Blacks are sinking to the #2 minority.

Since that political re-arrangement has happened too slowly, many Hispanics are voting Republican until it really does happen.

Mattman26 म्हणाले...

Who do you suppose was being ridiculous on the subject of race in 1950?

My first take was that he was talking about mixed-race people.

n.n म्हणाले...

What is "racially ridiculous"?

Diversity [dogma] (i.e. color judgment, class-based bigotry) which denies individual dignity, individual conscience, intrinsic value, and normalizes color blocs (e.g. "people of color"), color quotas (e.g. too many People of Yellow/Asian), and affirmative discrimination (e.g. allegations of people of white/albino privilege).

Throw another baby on the barbie, it's over, or should be.

Religion (i.e. behavioral protocol) for women and men capable of self-moderation, competing interests to mitigate the progress of others running amuck.

Wince म्हणाले...

Poor Democrats.

Maybe unfettered illegal immigration is functioning less and less as "replacement" of whites and more like "dilution" of Latinos?

Earning them the ire of both groups.

n.n म्हणाले...

On Wednesday Biden will announce he’s going forward with The Wall

To paraphrase Pink Floyd: Another brick in the wall... We don't need no education. We don't need no thought control. No dark sarcasm in our political class.

n.n म्हणाले...

And that Hunter will pay for it. Out of the Biden crime family’s ill-gotten gains.

American Spring. Caveat emptor.

What's emanating from your penumbra म्हणाले...

On this topic, I'm curious whether any legitimate reason has been given by the administration for the crack down on illegal immigrants from Venezuela. On the surface, it seems like an attempt to reduce the influence of immigrants who understand the destruction caused by veering too far into socialism, and are certain they don't want it. Until I hear some other good reason for cracking down on Venezuelans and not on other illegal immigrants, I will assume the administration's fear of anti-socialist ideas is behind it, which, for the same reasons as those made in Prof. Althouse's post, should be encouraging for conservatives.

Meade म्हणाले...

ElPresidenteCastro said...

Ruy Teixeira has a lot of skin in this game. His "Emerging Democratic Majority" doesn't seem to be emerging and he failed to anticipate that Hispanic voters would become normies (also a word that I hate). Now he is trying to cope with his once very popular book and political meme being proved false.“

Proved false? I don’t think. Who could have predicted, in 2000, the emergence of Donald J Trump?

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/America%27s+Forgotten+Majority%3A+Why+the+White+Working+Class+Still...-a065014765

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Hispanics are mostly turning out to be just like any of the other immigration waves, e.g., the Italians, the Polish, the people from the Balkans, etc. They came here because they believed in the (lately much derided by Democrats) American Dream. What makes them downright dangerous to the current Democrat Party is that a large fraction of them already know what life is like for hard working and ambitious men and women under socialist or Marxist governments, and they absolutely want no part of it.

GRW3 म्हणाले...

My SIL's dad immigrated from Mexico legally. He spent years studying, doing the paperwork and paying the fees. He's incensed that people are just waltzing over the border. My SIL's cousins are pissed their businesses are being impacted by the flood of undocumented, untaxed and un-"minimum waged" illegals. My cousin is married into a prominent Hispanic family in the Rio Grande Valley. They own farms but no one can live on them (which used to be an employee perk) because it is too dangerous. So, yeah, the Democrats are missing the story.

More than a few think the FBI raid on Congressman Henry Cuellar (D) was a brush back pitch from the administration because he was complaining about the border.

ElPresidenteCastro म्हणाले...

Making sweeping claims about generational politics is serious business. Not being able to predict surprises, such as the rise of Trump, is a built in risk. Dem's worked hard to make Ruy's claim come true, filibustering George W's Estrada nomination being the most despicable. Maybe Trump accelerated the process but the most talked about political meme this decade is proving to be false.

Rollo म्हणाले...

The conventional wisdom is that Latinos are entrepreneurs, often in the building trades, and religious, like the Italians, not focused on public employment like the Irish or on the professions, like Jews and Asians. It's a stereotype, but may have some validity.

Black working-class and Hispanic working-class people have a lot more in common with white working-class people than many people have been willing to believe,' said Ruy Teixeira, a demographer at the American Enterprise Institute who writes often on the subject."

Teixeira doesn't say whether people think that way because he told them to.

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

Take care you don't alienate the abnormie Republicans. Here in Blue suburbia, it's "normal" to vote for Democrats.

stutefish म्हणाले...

Brazilians are hispanics now? I can never keep track.

JAORE म्हणाले...

They invent terms like "normies" because they dare not admit these people are MAINSTREAM.

That would help delineate the actual ultra-radical-far left or right. And we can not have that.

Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...

Maybe white Democrats will finally stop saying "Latinx."

Christopher B म्हणाले...

By my reading (I subscribe to his SubStack, The Liberal Patriot) Teixeira has begun saying that the thesis of "The Emerging Majority" was 'misunderstood', and he and Judis meant the Democrats would need to hold the white working class *and* capture fast-growing non-white populations, not that they could swap the latter for the former. Sounds a bit like an ex post facto correction to me but at least he recognizes and acknowledges the problem.

Carol म्हणाले...

"a dream to live the American dream, and many other immigrants have the same dream"

How...dreamy.

When do things get real?

PJ म्हणाले...

Ruy Teixeira has a lot of skin in this game.

To be fair to Mr. Teixeira, his 2002 predictions did not take account of the consequences of People Who Matter taking those predictions so seriously. Shortly after "The Emerging Democratic Majority" was published, a Democratic Party that under Bill Clinton and the Barbara Jordan Commission had supported the now-condemned 1996 immigration reform laws performed an illegal-immigration-policy 180, believing that such a move would hasten their 1000-year reign. That post-TEDM policy reversal, and the extreme measures taken in pursuit of the new policy, made illegal immigration the divisive issue it is today. Teixeira may well have been right if insanity had not intervened.

gilbar म्हणाले...

i have some teenaged cousins (well 1st cousins twice removed) that live in southern california.
On their dad's side, they are 3rd generation cali (their greatgrandma* moved from iowa in 1940)
on their mom's side, they are 2 generation cali (their grandpa moved legally from mexico in the 1970's)
Their grandpa wouldn't let his daughter learn spanish, just english**.
Do you think any of THEM are in favor of illegal immigration?

their greatgrandma* gilbar's aunt
just english** the hilarious thing IS, she is NOW a spanish teacher, which she learned for the class

Jeff Weimer म्हणाले...

Ruy Teixeira.

One of the guys significantly responsible for the situation the Democrats are in right now. His 2004 book, "The Emerging Democratic Majority" convinced progressives and that party at large that they could pretty much do anything they want policy-wise and they would suffer no consequences because young people and immigrants were going to electorally swamp Republicans and conservatives out of intrinsic affinity. They never thought they could go too far, and now the very demographics they were counting on are rejecting them in significant enough numbers. Will this cause a serious reflection? Doubtful - the left and center-left have been impenetrably cocksure of their righteousness, there simply isn't a better set of policies anywhere according to themselves, and people must merely be misinformed to not see the brilliance.

retail lawyer म्हणाले...

I thought "normie" was a slight pejorative. Its always used by somebody who thinks of themselves as "above normie". If not in income then education or sophistication or literary tastes. Sort of like "Acting white".

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

The Latino Experience is very different from the Black Experience in this country. Many Blacks in this country essentially expect to be taken care of. Selling their votes for benefits has long been a way of life. Much of this dependency can probably be traced to their ancestors having been dragged over here in chains, and worked as slaves for several hundred years. On the flip side, many of the Hispanics here, like many immigrant groups, tend to be the more ambitious in their old countries. Living in PHX this time of year, I am impressed how hard working and entrepreneurial so many are. Every one seems to have a real job, and side gigs. The women may do maid work on the side, while the men may do landscaping. Or, there the old guy a couple years ago who noticed that my Audi needed some body work. He was teaching his grandson the ropes. He convinced me that he could do the job, in the parking lot, at half the price that a body shop would charge - and he delivered. Ended up paying him in gift cards for his grandkids.

I first saw this almost a half century ago, when I was working at a brick factory in Boulder. The Mexicans would come up for maybe 7-8 months every year. They worked really hard, sending most of the money back, but you didn’t notice it, at first, because they made it enjoyable. The young guys would turn stacking bricks into a competition, and the rest of us could kick back and smoke a cigarette for maybe 10 minutes. Happened once or twice an hour. All the guys at nearby CU would last a week, if that. Just back breaking work made enjoyable. Last summer, we had bricks put in for our back and side yards. The crew did an amazing job, in short order, at a very reasonable price. Same thing - hard work, good craftsmanship, good price, and they all seemed to enjoy themselves.

We lived in a subdivision across town, on the west side, for several years. About half the houses were owned by Hispanics. One of the interesting aspects was how family oriented they all were. We had a really nice Hispanic woman next door, along with her husband and baby. She got the police over there when she noticed our garage door open, while we were in MT for half the year. I was working with her and the cops, watching on video, as they went through looking for some hint of a crime. That’s what you want in neighbors. She and her brothers would get together at her parents house a couple miles away every Sunday. Got to know one of them a bit, when he put bricks in her back yard. And, they would all go to Catholic Church together too. My RC partner just says that they are hard working Catholics. Like earlier generations of Irish, Italians, and for her, French - close enough to the French that she has Hispanics in her extended family.

These are the Normie Hispanics. They work with other blue and pink collar ethnicities. You see a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation who have moved up the ladder. You can usually tell by their English. The guys doing landscaping here (including the brick work) are first generation. Their boss (and a good friend of my step daughter) is probably second generation, as was the girl next door at our old house (we needed some translation when talking to her parents). And by the 3rd generation, you can barely detect their accent. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that they are more and more voting their class, voting like the other people they work and socialize with. And, yes, that means that those with college degrees, and esp higher degrees, move back to the left, as has been the case with us Gringos, etc. many of the Hispanics I have met here were avid Trump supporters in 2020. His bombast seemed to really strike a cord with them. Esp Hispanic men.

Michael K म्हणाले...

filibustering George W's Estrada nomination being the most despicable.

Yes and filibustering Janice Rogers Brown lest she be the first black female on the Court. Instead we got "I can't define a female."

Static Ping म्हणाले...

Wait, I thought "Latino" specifically meant Spanish speaking. Brazilians would not qualify, technically. I mean I get the idea, but nonetheless.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Biden has already started sending Venezuelans back, probably due to their penchant for voting Republican, same as Obama started sending Cubans back. Mexicans will be next.

J Scott म्हणाले...

Poor Ruy Teixeira, he used to be one of the Democratic party prophets, but now he's only another "demographer at the (extreme right wing) American Enterprise Institute"

Jaq म्हणाले...

At least they were able to keep themselves from writing the _x-word.

ColoComment म्हणाले...

GRW3 said...
11/7/22, 12:14 PM
My SIL's cousins are pissed their businesses are being impacted by the flood of undocumented, untaxed and un-"minimum waged" illegals.


Every day, for several decades, my peeps in metro Phoenix AZ have worked with and alongside [long-time legal] Hispanics in occupations ranging from the professional to manual labor.
When the peeps have asked/discussed with them their personal opinions of the now-"open" southern border and the economic and social effects of the floods of illegal immigrants, my peeps receive responses similar to those of your cousins.

n.n म्हणाले...

Many Blacks in this country essentially expect to be taken care of. Selling their votes for benefits has long been a way of life. Much of this dependency can probably be traced to their ancestors having been dragged over here in chains, and worked as slaves for several hundred years.

Exported as slaves in national and tribal conflicts (e.g. Mandela's Xhosa vs Zulu) before colonials ended the practice, then sustained as dependents with slavery and diversity prolonged with new deals.

Michael म्हणाले...

Black working-class and Hispanic working-class people have a lot more in common with white working-class people than many people have been willing to believe,' said Ruy Teixeira,

We've been saying this for two decades. Trump was the first national figure to understand.

Known Unknown म्हणाले...

I call some of my friends "normies" --- they listen to either top-40 music or the music that was popular when they were 16. They watch Big Bang Theory but have never seen a David Lynch movie. They read junk fiction like Janet Evanovich or Lee Childs.

I'm perfectly weird but for some reason I can vacillate between the normie and non-normie worlds pretty well, although I don't it in at all in either.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Does any of this really matter?? 2020 taught us it may not matter at all.

The White House is prepping everyone for "days" worth of counting votes claiming "that's how it's supposed to go", and the Justice Department released a list of cities and counties that they will monitor for "civil rights violations"

Included of course are corrupt Milwaukee and Racine, WI, five counties in PA, six is AZ including Maricopa, Cobb and Fulton County GA, etc... Same areas of 2020 fraud they helped deliver.

Bunch of areas in Alaska too. Probably to protect RINO Murkowski.

I don't trust the Justice Department to enforce any "justice". I believe Sean Davis who I linked. If the same rigging scheme is in motion as in 2020, they are there to help it push through for Democrats.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Democrats cut our energy supply - but are allowing the rest of the globe to harness oil and gas.



Carol म्हणाले...

"I thought "normie" was a slight pejorative."

Yes, like NPC. Y'all are a bunch of average, boring types. While *I* am special!

gspencer म्हणाले...

Didn't take too long a time for a significant percentage of Hispanics to see where opportunity and real personal freedom-from-government lie, with the R party.

I know they're coming around, but blacks could take notice of the way off the plantation.

Darkisland म्हणाले...

I've not read or even thought of Harry Crews since the 70s or 80s when I was a big fan. Reading Ann's post about normal people immediately made me think of his autobiography "A Childhood:biography of a place"

he grew up a son of a poor Georgia share cropper. Suffered several horrific accidents (lye, boiling water) at a young age. He had a different take on what he called normal people. As in the people saw every day.

"Nearly everybody I knew had something missing, a finger cut off, a toe split, an ear half-chewed away, an eye clouded with blindness from a glancing fence staple. And if they didn't have something missing, they were carrying scars from barbed wire, or knives, or fishhooks."

He wrote a number of seriously wierd novels. All good and worth reading and rereading. Personal favorite "the gypsy's curse" (que se encuentra una cona a su media)

John stop fascism vote republican Henry

Christopher B म्हणाले...

Static Ping said...
Wait, I thought "Latino" specifically meant Spanish speaking. Brazilians would not qualify, technically.


If you're talking the actual official US government classifications (which I think get used widely because government reporting drives a lot of the data collection) who is or isn't in various groups is just a game of darts. IIRC from this Powerline podcast David Bernstein discovered that which country of origin got officially included in the 'Hispanic' category was decided by three staffers of Cuban, Puerto Rican, and Mexican ancestry.

Darkisland म्हणाले...

I found it odd that right out of the box he used the Brazilian guy as a representative.

Brazilians have nothing in common with the 3 major latino(so-called) in the us,not even language.

Those 3 groups, Puerto Rican, Cuban-American, Mexican-American have next to nothing in common other than language (like we have English in common with Dubliners and Scousers)

I didn't read the article but I can smell bullshit from 3,000 miles away.

John stop fascism vote republican Henry

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

OR - without self-absorbed prick Trump on the ballot - the normals are feeling better about voting GOP.

n.n म्हणाले...

The Republicans need to mitigate progressive prices and availability, Green energy proliferation, world wars/coups through proxy/shared responsibility, [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform, education delayed to maximize "benefits", diversity (inequity, and exclusion including immigration reform in lieu of emigration reform), political congruence, medical mandates and social contagion, recurring nationwide incursions and neighborhood intimidation, and the wicked solution.

Drago म्हणाले...

Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker: "Democrats cut our energy supply - but are allowing the rest of the globe to harness oil and gas."

Democrats cut our energy supply - but are allowing the rest of the globe to harness oil and gas....and lots and lots of coal.

Both China and India shifted hard back to coal several years back. The ChiComs in 2019 announced their intention to build 300 new coal plants while India committed to significantly increasing coal % in their fuel mix.

The lefties said nothing and so the lefties voice-actuated minions, such as a Howard or a gadfly, said nothing as well. And Little Commie Greta, recently proudly outed as a marxian fangrrrrrl and the Matron Saint of All Wokies, sure kept her yap shut.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Latino concern for structure, apparently. I wonder if it's a latina concern too.

boricuafudd म्हणाले...

For what it's worth, Latino is a designation for all Latin American countries which include Brazil, whereas Hispanic refers to Hispania which is only those that speak Spanish.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Living in PHX this time of year, I am impressed how hard working and entrepreneurial so many [Hispanics] are. Every one seems to have a real job, and side gigs.

@Bruce Hayden, this is one of those things that “everybody” knows but one tends not to think about it until someone points it out. Now lay that reality against the Democrats’ efforts to hamstring the gig economy, as pioneered in California and furthered by a Department of Labor rule proposed last month and expected to go into effect in the coming year. That’s the Democrats off giving constituencies they need a one finger salute.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne म्हणाले...

ElPresidenteCastro said...

Ruy Teixeira has a lot of skin in this game. His "Emerging Democratic Majority" doesn't seem to be emerging and he failed to anticipate that Hispanic voters would become normies (also a word that I hate).

Ruy, born in DC, undergrad at Yale, graduate at Michigan and UW, has probably never met too many real Latinos.

Carol म्हणाले...

Wait, I thought "Latino" specifically meant Spanish speaking.

Portuguese is every bit as Latinate as Spanish.

Michael McNeil म्हणाले...

Wait, I thought "Latino" specifically meant Spanish speaking. Brazilians would not qualify, technically.

“Hispanic” originally referred not to the nation of “Spain” — which didn't then exist as a political and national entity, and wouldn't for millennia — but rather to the entire Iberian peninsula along with the inhabitants thereof.

“Spain,” now, properly the nation/kingdom so-called, is very recent on the long European historical timescale, only dating back to the personal union (by marriage) of two late Medieval states — the kingdoms of Aragon and Castile — in the 15th century. Renaming their merged kingdom as “Spain” was simply propaganda from the monarchs of the newly combined polity, attempting to convince folk everywhere that theirs was the totality (or at least by far the most important part) of the whole “Hispanic” (Iberian) peninsula — deliberately and totally eliding Portugal, which happens to also be vastly important as part of the peninsula and its history.

We see here that they've had some success.

Compared with the relatively newfangled and propagandistic term “Spain,” however, the word “Hispania” is ancient. For instance, one finds carved onto the face of the famous Antikythera Mechanism — an ancient astronomical computer (for predicting eclipses) from (most probably) the 2nd century BC — an inscription referring to certain ancient eclipses occurring in (expressed in the Greek alphabet): ΙΣΠΑΝΙΑ — that is: “Hispania.”

Thus, rightly, all persons historically, biologically and/or culturally descended from the cultures and states of the entire Iberian — that is, Hispanicpeninsula (not just the nation of Spain per se) by rights can correctly be termed Hispanic.

jpg म्हणाले...

So, higher education poisons young people with socialism. Who woulda thunk?

Kai Akker म्हणाले...

Ruy has switched sides. He seems to have a gift for sounding plausible to the right people.

Kai Akker म्हणाले...

Ruy has switched sides. He seems to have a gift for sounding plausible to the right people.

Kirk Parker म्हणाले...

Achilles @ 11:50 AM,

There's also a 'tolerance' alternative, though of course not by the modern woke definition of the word, and in addition if you're a joiner instead of a splitter you would insist that it's just a subset of suppression.

It goes like this: keep it under wraps, not in our faces; keep it off main Street, and above all else don't Don't DON'T proselytize our kids. If you can keep it mostly out of sight, that's enough suppression for us, and we don't have to go out of our way to root it out entirely.

Tom म्हणाले...

Small business owners and working class Americans of every color and creed are tired of being ripped off. We have to navigate every obstacle, fund the cash guzzling federal government, and then be treated like shit. If we don’t start getting representation, we’re going on strike and the rest of the country can starve and freeze.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

LaTina Brown.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Kirk Parker said...

Achilles @ 11:50 AM,

There's also a 'tolerance' alternative, though of course not by the modern woke definition of the word, and in addition if you're a joiner instead of a splitter you would insist that it's just a subset of suppression.

It goes like this: keep it under wraps, not in our faces; keep it off main Street, and above all else don't Don't DON'T proselytize our kids. If you can keep it mostly out of sight, that's enough suppression for us, and we don't have to go out of our way to root it out entirely.


You can be "different" and still be compatible.

The problem is the incompatible. Murder, theft and other violent attacks on others are incompatible with almost any functioning society.

With a free high trust society there are additional elements that are incompatible. Censorship, corruption, two tier justice systems, non-enforcement of border laws.

Our society used to outlaw gay/multi-racial marriage. Slavery was an obvious outrage followed up by Jim Crow.

Right now democrats in blue cities are tacitly endorsing crime and murder by releasing criminals with little to no penalty for crimes.

Our social contract is about to be renegotiated.

Bunkypotatohead म्हणाले...

In a couple generation their kids will go off to college and become Democrats.