"Andre was kind of picked on a little bit by some associates at the store.... There were definitely other employees that made fun of him.... He didn’t have a social life.... It was work, home. Home, work. It didn’t seem like he had much of a support system, if any.... He was known in the store for being hostile at times.... He had too many moments where he’d be overly aggressive."
Said Nathan Sinclair, a former Walmart employee, quoted in " Walmart shooter described as aggressive, angry, but motive unclear" (WaPo).
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You can not like someone. You can also choose not to give him a hard time.
Management needs to see what's going on, although after-the-facting doesn't mean management is guilty here. Things might have been run more smoothly or economically with somebody else in the same management slot. You always want that. And it might....
If it turns out he’s nonbinary, the press can move on.
So if I understand correctly he was overly hostile and controlling and some employees did not like him. Is it really surprising that a lower level manager who is aggressive is also not liked? That seems pretty normal..
Is there now a viewpoint shift that goes from “he was a crazy gun nut who killed people” to now “he is a downtrodden black man who was let down by the system”?
Or is the reality that he was someone they couldn’t fire because he was a black man in a supervisory role? Did they keep a crazy guy in the position because it was the easy way out?
Ah, the mysteries of life. All's fair in lust... hate and abortion.
One of the biggest problems among the younger generation cohort is there a fundamental lack of a spidey sense. We've all worked around people like this. They need to be respected and coddled instead of ridiculed.
It was very obviously Dobbs that pushed him over the edge. That or climate change.
He is clearly mentally troubled.
Why do we search for the motivations of crazy people?
They are crazy!
If X, didn’t motivate them, Y would have.
We have a mental health problem in America and it's only going to get worse.
Joe @ 7:49: “…mental health problem in America…”. I wonder if we can trace the effect of Wu Flu —fear porn fed into the discourse month after month after month, arbitrary edicts and unexplained flip-flops with brutal consequences for disobedience, deep and lasting isolation and shunning, loss of institutional support, *too much “alone time”— on the incidence and severity of mental illness?
A huge “natural experiment” and it’s still underway. Too many people have done entirely too well out of the panic, ever to want it to end.
This story is a good one for the memory hole. I give it a week.
I live 10-15 minutes from that store, used to shop there often until a closer one was opened. Drove by a few hours before the shooting. My company's main offices are about a mile away.
You keep the guy on the payroll and he kills people.
You fire the guy and he kills people.
That's a tough call for the store manager to make, but one supposes there were other decisions that could have been made differently.
It is curious, though how many times "I was bullied" and "No, you were the bully" go together in life.
“ They need to be respected and coddled instead of ridiculed”.
Could you expand/explain this, please?
@ Lurker 21 - yes, bullies are often convinced they are the ones who are victims. they do not have low self-esteem, they have artificially high self-esteem which the world does not reinforce for them, which infuriates them.
@ Owen - sure, squeeze whatever your particular hobbyhorse is into every news event, insisting that must be the problem that is bothering everyone else. Fear porn, brutal, arbitrary... yeah, you are an objective source we should all be listening to.
"It didn’t seem like he had much of a support system, if any."
Paging Jordan Peterson.
NPR says the shooter left a suicide note. Apparently it doesn't mention anything but personal disappointments and grievances. What a concept.
Sure Farmgirl. The type of male with delusions of grandeur whom is hated by his peers can be very dangerous when he explodes. Respected as in all humans should be shown respect. Coddled in that the person is defective and needs to be sheltered from his own shortcomings. In other words, don't poke the bear or corner a rat. Make them feel confident and comfortable. There was a guy like this at the primitive gathering we went to in down east Maine this past summer. He was packing heat and lots of blades and lied about working in central America as a contractor for the company. He was a huge wannabe exhibiting all the stereotypical tells who talked about how so many people were jealous of his skills, etc. He meant well but was obviously mental and fragile. I went out of my way to be nice to him, asking him questions, asking for advise and also not confronting him on his obvious lies and exaggerations.
Thanks, Howard.
I agree- to an extent.
This man wasn’t just a wannabe amongst strangers. He was known and he knew the people he killed. Walking lightly and politely works up to a certain extent(InMyhumbleOpinion) b/c artificially feeding someone’s ego can lead to more delusional thinking.
Well done, Howard. We can't fix everybody, but we can respect them as human beings. One downside of today's instant communication: When something awful happens, each of us can frame the story as we please and speculate our brains out.
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