Oktubre 28, 2022

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul Pelosi, was hospitalized after he was assaulted by someone who broke into the couple’s residence in San Francisco early on Friday morning...."

"'The assailant is in custody and the motivation for the attack is under investigation.'... The Pelosis have owned a three-floor red brick townhouse in San Francisco’s exclusive Pacific Heights neighborhood since 1987. In January 2021, after Congress passed a stimulus bill, their home was vandalized with graffiti, and a pig’s head was left on the sidewalk. The vandalism occurred before the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. In the months since that attack, members of Congress from both parties have experienced a surge in threats and confrontations, including stalking, armed visits to their homes and assaults.... [T]here was no immediate indication that the attack was politically motivated."

The NYT reports.

We will learn more soon, as they've got a person in custody. I think the Times ought to refer to him as "the alleged assailant," not "the assailant." We don't know for certain what happened. I will be interested to see whether the incident fits better into the GOP narrative — we're in a horrific crime wave — or the Democratic narrative — domestic terrorism. 

I would have thought the Pelosis' house was a well-protected fortress. How could someone just break in? Was the 82-year-old husband of the Speaker of the House home alone, with no security guards, open to assault? What's the point of being wealthy if you cannot protect yourself from physical attacks?

ADDED: The very next thing I saw was this, and it felt related:

185 komento:

Drago ayon kay ...

Did the attacker yell "This is MAGA country!"?

Spiros ayon kay ...

I hope it's a spurned gay lover. That way no one wins.

Enigma ayon kay ...

Fortress? Here's her purported address with overhead views:

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/nancy-pelosis-house/

This very large house is near two very large major roads in San Francisco -- Broadway and Divisadero. I don't think there's a way to secure it other than move. SF is full of people with...odd motives...

Drago ayon kay ...

"I would have thought the Pelosis' house was a well-protected fortress. How could someone just break in? Was the 82-year-old husband of the Speaker of the House home alone, with no security guards, open to assault? What's the point of being wealthy if you cannot protect yourself from physical attacks?"

The FBI can't pull another kidnapping hoax, that ploy is too played out.

We'll soon see if we have another Cesar Sayoc-type setup run by the feds to support the democratical election narrative.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Katie Hobbs is a cookie cutter leftist. She's merely there to be a loyal apparatus to the corrupt leftwing machine.

Spiros ayon kay ...

I am getting Jussie Smollett vibes from this one. I HOPE this wasn't staged!

n.n ayon kay ...

Deplorables, Some, Select [Political] Lives Matter (PLM).

RideSpaceMountain ayon kay ...

"[T]here was no immediate indication that the attack was politically motivated."

They're working on that. Confidential sources indicate they may have shouted "this is MAGA country" during the assault. Tune in later.

wendybar ayon kay ...

Are they going to take away hammers now?? She had better inform her Progressives...they are claiming crime doesn't exist. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/democratic-strategy-before-midterm-elections-deny-crime-exists

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Was it Harry Reid's Unverisal Gymn or Jusse Smollet's MAGA attackers? We'll let the media decide the narrative. I am anxiously awaiting how this will affect the mid-terms. It seems a little surprisish ...

Pete ayon kay ...

The Pelosi house, like the Capitol, really needs steel shutters

Peachy ayon kay ...

The only issue the left can speak to is.... ABORTION.

Kinda sad.

wendybar ayon kay ...

"I would have thought the Pelosis' house was a well-protected fortress. How could someone just break in? Was the 82-year-old husband of the Speaker of the House home alone, with no security guards, open to assault? What's the point of being wealthy if you cannot protect yourself from physical attacks?"

You can say the same thing about him driving drunk in Napa. They can afford, with all their insider trading money, to hire both a driver and security. Their fault.

n.n ayon kay ...

Are they going to take away hammers now??

Perhaps not all hammers, but the assault-style, high-mass mallet favored by Pelosi to suppress civil rights and order.

gilbar ayon kay ...

Here's what I don't understand.. Mr Pelosi lives in a Castle.. WHY was he walking to Subway?

Temujin ayon kay ...

OK, I'll be the one to throw this out there. Paul Pelosi had a 'boy toy'. Nancy is out of town so much. Paul gets lonely. Has girl toys and boy toys. One boy toy got jealous and they had an argument. Things did not go well. So yeah- it's clearly a white supremacist attack.

Dan from Madison ayon kay ...

I'm just going to say that if I, a normal, healthy man, was tapping a tune on an 82 year old dude with a hammer, he wouldn't be telling the tale.

Jake ayon kay ...

I love how annoyed that dude was at the end. "We're not going to go beyond the statement."

Lurker21 ayon kay ...

In January 2021, after Congress passed a stimulus bill, their home was vandalized with graffiti, and a pig’s head was left on the sidewalk.

It was apparently vandalized over New Year's by "anarchists" who wanted more money.

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: @SpeakerPelosi’s house VANDALIZED with red paint, PIGS HEAD & spray-painted message “$2K (crossed out)... CANCEL RENT... WE WANT EVERYTHING”. City called to clean up at 3am & police attempting to stop photos of scene. Media SILENT.

PM ayon kay ...

She used to live in the super-elite Presidio Terrace, which is gated and guarded.

Gusty Winds ayon kay ...

Speaking of Katie Hobbs and Kari Lake, last night FOX 10 in Phoenix flashed a graphic on screen showing Katie Hobbs with 53% of the vote and Kari Lake 47%. It even had actual vote totals. 12 days before the election.

I have little faith an expect to see the same coordinated fraudulent bullshit as in 2020. AZ, WI, MI, PA, GA.

PA Sec of State is already stating results of the GOV and Senate race will take days.


Sally327 ayon kay ...

This could be a form of equity, I think, that even the incredibly wealthy, powerful, well-connected octogenarians among us are subject to violence and crime.

There are a lot more criminals than there are wealthy people. How much would you have to pay a security guard to be willing to die for you? Expecting that would seem to be coming from a "place of privilege".



Christopher B ayon kay ...

When ya hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.

Unless you're in Africa.

Gusty Winds ayon kay ...

Has Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward been on TV yet claiming these two break-ins are worse than Watergate?

Peachy ayon kay ...

MAGA racists are lurking all over. Best to send all of them to the Gulag. For Democracy!

Achilles ayon kay ...

Well they release his bloodwork?

Will they release the bloodwork of his assailant?

Were they doing drugs together?

Paul Pelosi is a billionaire who was just arrested for drunk driving and hit-and-run. I doubt he was sober And I bet he knew his assailant.

The only thing that I know for certain is that the regime and the media are going to lie about this attack.

Ann Althouse ayon kay ...

@Temujin

The article says the assailant "broke in."

That could be wrong, but that's what stopped me from saying more about what might have happened.

I note that the article does NOT say that the arrested man was a stranger to Paul Pelosi. But it's hard to believe that anyone but a stranger would be said to have broken in.... I mean, I'm capable of concocting a scenario in which someone known to PP breaks into his house.

Cappy ayon kay ...

Welp...

MadisonMan ayon kay ...

What a horrible thing to happen to him. Assault against the very old will frequently herald a permanent downward change in health. I hope his recovery is complete and swift.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

"Speaking of Katie Hobbs and Kari Lake, last night FOX 10 in Phoenix flashed a graphic on screen showing Katie Hobbs with 53% of the vote and Kari Lake 47%. It even had actual vote totals. 12 days before the election."

Fox just called AZ for Newsome.

YoungHegelian ayon kay ...

"Hey, aren't you the n****r f****t from 'Empire'?"

"No, I'm Paul Pelosi. Who the hell are you?"

"Damn! I'm in the wrong hate crime!"

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

I am going to call bullshit on the "break in" part. I am guessing this individual was likely to have been invited in at some point. I think it 50% that Temujin is actually right about what happened. For me, the tell is the lack of information about the assailant.

Why do I think the person was let in? Because I agree with Althouse that it is very unlikely that the Pelosis don't have good security outside and/or inside the house at all times when one of them is there they are there. Also, the assailant was apprehended- that is also telling me that Paul Pelosi knew him.

Lucien ayon kay ...

I hope the guy has already been released without bail.

tim maguire ayon kay ...

This is San Francisco, smart money has to be on random violence. It's possible it's politically motivated, but that's not the way to bet.

Michael K ayon kay ...

Why are you assuming the assailant was a man ? Paul had a woman in the car with him when he did his DUI/accident. She vanished right after. Maybe this was a hooker who got too enthusiastic with the old man.

Dagwood ayon kay ...

Paul Pelosi was probably getting behind on his the payments to his dealer and needed a little reminder.

Gusty Winds ayon kay ...

I'll bet there is some wickedly evil shit that goes on in the Pelosi home. They aren't good people.

Robert Marshall ayon kay ...

"it's hard to believe that anyone but a stranger would be said to have broken in...."

Cornell Law School's WEX service defines the "breaking" part very liberally:

Breaking and entering is defined as the entering of a building through force without authorization. The slightest force including pushing open a door is all that is necessary. Breaking also includes entering a building through fraud, threats, or collusion.

If you're not authorized to enter, you can't enter without also "breaking," unless someone left the door open. So that charge doesn't exclude it being a person well known to Mr. Pelosi.

CWJ ayon kay ...

Temujin -

Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil

wendybar ayon kay ...

It was a mostly peaceful protest, and as long as the assailant didn't take over $950., so crime was done, right???

CWJ ayon kay ...

Dan from Madison -

Agreed. PP seems unnaturally resilient. He's probably fireproof as well.

RideSpaceMountain ayon kay ...

@Michael K

Spot on. There's nothing that says these adrenochrome swilling illuminatees don't swing both ways. It is after all Frisco Bi The Bay.

wendybar ayon kay ...

All joking aside, this is REALLY sad. I don't know what happened. None of us do. I don't wish this type of crime on anybody. But the glee that the Mrs shows in targeting innocent people who were taking selfies in the Capitol brings out the KARMA tag.

Michael ayon kay ...

Gay lover. It happens.

Rt41Rebel ayon kay ...

@ Michael K

It would also explain why the perp had access to the house.

rhhardin ayon kay ...

Dobermans are good. Bad guys are afraid of them, having seen mostly Dobermans teased to be wild by their friends.

Curious George ayon kay ...

"MadisonMan said...
I hope his recovery is complete and swift."

Our Venn Diagram would have "complete and swift" in the middle.

Amadeus 48 ayon kay ...

Katie Hobbs has the piping, little girl voice that seems everywhere these days. This is not the voice of authority. Kari Lake not only looks good, she sounds good, as does Tulsi Gabbard.

One of Sarah Palin's weaknesses was her harsh, grating voice. She looked good, but didn't sound good. Kamala's affect is spoiled by the giggles and hysterical laughter that pepper her word salad. She also looks good but doesn't sound good.

Offsetting all of this in my mind is the persona of Ted Baxter--great look, great voice, and as vain as a peacock and as dumb as a post.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Interesting Drudgetaposition, Althouse!

Horrible thing to happen to Pelosi and I'm glad to hear the perp is caught. Too many criminals get away with too much already here in CA. Assault with a hammer might not even be a felony now under the weird new laws passed last year similar to the one about to change IL. Anything short of murder is treated like cite and release and I hope this event helps change that.

But the FBI is on the case already. Funny I don't recall them being involved when Lee Zeldin was attacked by a guy with a knife during the current campaign. Didn't hear from the FBI when the guy ran over his teen neighbor for being a republican either. The news coverage so far on cable is way out of proportion to those other recent violent attacks.

William ayon kay ...

There's speculation and there's fantasy. I would hope it's an undocumented immigrant involved in a burglary or a male escort involved in a dispute over a professional fee. I suppose the Dems are hoping it's Steve Bannon or some irate Trump supporter....I don't know how the hash will settle. If it's an undocumented immigrant, the story will die within the week. If it's a Trump supporter, you can expect him to get a lot more coverage than the Scalise shooter.

wendybar ayon kay ...

This is shaping up to be another attack on Trump supporters. They are now "claiming" that Nancy was targeted, and the assailant kept saying "Where's Nancy"?. Just watch. Nancy needs a false flag to change the election. Sorry, but after the lies about the fake Russian Collusion and the lies about the Capitol being INSURRECTED....I don't believe anything that comes out of that bitches mouth. Sorry, not sorry. I don't trust her and never will. She is a liar who does whatever she has to, to get her way. No matter who did it, they will spin it to be a white supremacist, because there are so many of them running around in San Francisco.

Sorry Paul, but she did this to you. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11365447/Nancy-Pelosi-says-husband-Paul-violently-ASSAULTED-attacker.html

J Scott ayon kay ...

These are the times we live in where it's been 8 hours and a mugshot hasn't been leaked yet?

Real American ayon kay ...

Buying a hammer is easier than registering to vote or aborting your newborn in California. We just need common sense hammer control laws with background checks and to end the hardware store loophole. I wouldn't be shock to learn it was a ghost hammer.

Amadeus 48 ayon kay ...

The "break in" at Hobbs HQ, together with Hobbs's suggestion that Lake was responsible for it, came on the evening when the latest poll in the AZ governor's race showed Lake 11 points up.

Hobbs hadda do something!

Lake countered that it sounded like a Jussie Smollett crime to her, with the media running with unfounded speculation based on Hobbs's comments.

I would have avoided the Smollett comparison, but Lake noted that the media wouldn't run with that one, except to call her (Lake) irresponsible.

JK Brown ayon kay ...

'...the motivation for the attack is under investigation.'

That means on the alleged assailants face, they don't feel they can push an anti-Republican narrative that will hold up for even a short period. So visually, the person likely looks Antifa, BLM or climate activist. Or regular homeless/drug criminal.

Rabel ayon kay ...

How in the world has Katie Hobbs succeeded in politics to the extent she has with that little-girl voice?

BIII Zhang ayon kay ...

This story is being media-massaged.

Who? Missing.

How? Missing.

What? Only supplied by the drunk Paul Pelosi, who likely is unable to negotiate a stairway at 2:30am.

Where's the video? Do you really think that the person 2nd in line to the US Presidency doesn't have a video security system inside her house, which sits directly on a street where any passerby can enter a poorly secured door in mere seconds?

Why is our media such trash? Why are the cops playing dumb? Already this story reeks of falsity.

BIII Zhang ayon kay ...

This story is being media-massaged.

Who? Missing.

How? Missing.

What? Only supplied by the drunk Paul Pelosi, who likely is unable to negotiate a stairway at 2:30am.

Where's the video? Do you really think that the person 2nd in line to the US Presidency doesn't have a video security system inside her house, which sits directly on a street where any passerby can enter a poorly secured door in mere seconds?

Why is our media such trash? Why are the cops playing dumb? Already this story reeks of falsity.

Mike ayon kay ...

I think it is telling about the state of the USA today that our host assumes that "wealthy people should have security". But then this was the Pelosi's second (nominal) residence. I believe they actually spend most of their time at their home or homes in the Napa Valley. So if you do have security--but have to cut back in these inflationary times--maybe the security in San Francisco has to go.

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

Hard to believe Nancy, who was in charge of security for the capitol on J6 but allowed that rally to happen without adequate security, would then leave her husband home alone with no security. She has some timing, that Nancy. Where was she?

CNN is saying the attacker was looking for her. Like Fox they simply and elliptically say Nancy "was away" at the time with no elaboration. Local news has plenty from the neighbors and nothing about Nancy. Maybe she's still flouncing about Europe promising US dollars for war like she was in Bulgaria earlier.

Richard Aubrey ayon kay ...

"broke in" presumes the entry or entries were locked. I always check our doors before bed, but I'm not eighty-two.
And if the guy just walked in and the SF cops don't have the time to break the door when nobody's around with a camera, a whole new series of possibilities opens, even if the Bad Guy would have broken in if necessary.

Peter Spieker ayon kay ...

This came up when I did a google search:

Special agents with the U.S. Capitol Police’s California Field Office “quickly” responded to the scene of the attack, authorities said. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article267978327.html#storylink=cpy

So apparently the Capital Police keep an office in SF but don’t keep an officer on guard at the Pelosi residence? Seems strange. What other reason is there for such an office? Maybe they only keep a guard on site when the Speaker is in town, and the officers loaf the rest of the time.

BIII Zhang ayon kay ...

Who's to say Nancy didn't hire someone to go in there and get rid of her constant embarrassment drunk of a husband?

We need a complete investigation of her.

gilbar ayon kay ...

JK Brown said...
So visually, the person likely looks Antifa, BLM or climate activist. Or regular homeless/drug criminal.

OR, the guy looks like the sort of gay prostitute that would beat the crap out of an 82 year old john that didn't pay up (or, that just decided to rob him after)

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

From Harmeet Dhillon:

’My firm served a lawsuit against Paul Pelosi one time in SF after attempting to serve at other residences—Napa, Georgetown. They weren’t home, but staff were, & multiple law enforcement officers were on the perimeter. Break-in is odd given this level of security.’

walter ayon kay ...

Word is out the fridge is stocked with the BEST ice cream.

walter ayon kay ...

Maybe the daughter was filming it, by chance.

Rit ayon kay ...

If I had a hammer
I'd hammer in the morning
I'd hammer in the evening
All over this land

And I'd hammer out danger
I'd hammer out a warning
I'd hammer out love between my brothers and my sisters
All over this land

Jaq ayon kay ...

“Alleged” is not required if the accusation helps Democrats, so there is a hint regarding where they are taking it.

MikeR ayon kay ...

Come on. In San Francisco? No conservatives, and zillions of homeless people. What are the odds?

TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed ayon kay ...

The assailant was Elon Musk, he stopped by after symbolically defenstrating the CEO, CFO, and Harridan of Twitter. He figured he would pay a courtesy call to the gatekeepers of the surveillance state since he was in the area.

Big Mike ayon kay ...

He was attacked with hammer blows to the head but is expected to make a full recovery? Something’s not right.

Lurker21 ayon kay ...

Jerry Lee Lewis has died again.

Leland ayon kay ...

This happened about 2:30am PDT. As J Scott notes above, the "suspect" in custody has no physical description after 8 hours. I'm starting to see a few places in the past hour report the suspect as "male"; although I don't know if they consulted a biologist. Either they are stringing this out for all the coverage they can get, or the motivation for the attack is known and has nothing to do with Lawrence Tribe's fantasies.

James K ayon kay ...

So Nancy removed security beforehand just as she did on January 6th?

wendybar ayon kay ...

Just one more reason why EVERY homeowner needs to get a gun. We need to protect ourselves. The Pelosi's have protection, and even THEY get attacked. Protect yourself. Get a gun immediately if you don't already have one. It isn't going to get better, especially after the Progressives lose the midterms, and then the Presidency.

Anthony ayon kay ...

Hobbs is one of those utterly mediocre government employees who never seems to do anything but keeps failing upwards. She sounds like a 14-year old. She knows Lake would roast her over a fire without even breaking a sweat in an actual debate which is why she refused to do so.

Having said that, I still kind of expect Hobbs to "win" since she has a built-in percentage of fraud that Lake has to overcome.

Jaq ayon kay ...

“Rand Paul’s neighbor was right.” - Christini Pelosi

Jason ayon kay ...

Perhaps he was just looking for ice cream?

Jason ayon kay ...

Maybe it was someone outraged that his own DUI charge was prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and he didn't have friendly police and a crooked judge/DA to stall for hours and hours before they got a blood test to sabotage the prosecution, like Pelosi did.

Two justice systems.

Left Bank of the Charles ayon kay ...

‘I think the Times ought to refer to him as "the alleged assailant," not "the assailant." We don't know for certain what happened.’

Alleged is a lazy word. There is no need to use it if the story was properly introduced and you haven’t provided enough of the story to establish that it wasn’t.

‘I will be interested to see whether the incident fits better into the GOP narrative — we're in a horrific crime wave — or the Democratic narrative — domestic terrorism.’

What a sad filter.

‘What's the point of being wealthy if you cannot protect yourself from physical attacks?’

You’d be wealthy, which is better than being poor or middle class.

Temujin ayon kay ...

OK, I'll add an alternate plotline. Paul Pelosi does not have any boy toys. But he has had more than one girl toy. And one of his recent or current girl toys also has a boyfriend or husband, or possibly recently divorced husband. And that boyfriend or husband- current or ex- has a large bit of hurt jealously going on and decided to show her who's not got any balls.

I might be reaching, but it's the Pelosi's so I don't feel like I'm far afield.

Leland ayon kay ...

Who had a former Castro nudist protester as their guess on the suspect?

walter ayon kay ...

Reportedly, it was..HAMMER VIOLENCE!

Big Mike ayon kay ...

There’s an online report that the attacker is named David Wayne DePape, and that he’s a leftwing hemp jeweler and anti-war protester who once took part in a nudist anti-war protest in the Castro district of San Francisco. Since he doesn’t fit the narrative as a MAGA Republican I expect the story to die a quick death.

BIII Zhang ayon kay ...

So already, the story has changed. The cops weren't called for a "break-in." They were called for a "wellness check." (Just watched their live press conference).

Upon arrival, they found BOTH Pelosi and the other man with hammers in their hands fighting each other.

What goes on at 2:30am in the Pelosi's house with a "nude activist?"

Police REFUSE to say who called the cops. And REFUSE to answer any questions from the press.

The cover-up begins.

Leland ayon kay ...

Latest from Madison NBC15: "The suspect was identified as David Depape, two of the people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press. He was in custody."

Which do you think the press will hype? Depape's pro-nudist views, pro-Castro views, or pro-1st Amendment/anti-censorship views?

Christopher B ayon kay ...

Doubt I'll be the first one to post this but Ace at AofSHQ has a thread with breaking updates

As of 1:34pm ET Friday 28 October, he's including reports that the suspect's identification has been revealed and confirmed by various sources.

Karol Markowicz confirms the name as David Wayne DePape but not the further details.

Joe Eskenazi, of Mission Local, tweeted, "My sources also name the suspect in this morning's hammer attack on Paul Pelosi as David DePape, born 1980, of Berkeley. He would appear to be a former Castro nudist protester. Things appear set to be bizarre for a while."

A 2013 article in the San Francisco Chronicle mentions Depape, although his name is spelled wrong. It describes him as a "hemp jewelry maker." That article reported that Depape was the best man at the naked wedding of Gypsy Taub.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

The attacker has been identified as a Berkeley resident with the last name of Dupape. He’s a hemp jewelry maker. Easy on the Tinder swipes, Big Pauli…

Temujin ayon kay ...

More on this: I've heard a second-hand CNN report that says they know a guy who knows a guy who says the assailant entered shouting for Nancy. Now that's believable to me, even if it's 3rd or 4th hand and from CNN.

So, it's either an angry husband/boyfriend of a woman Paul is entertaining from time to time, or it's a nutcase who watched one too many podcasts and news reports and was set off to save the world.

Or...it's a paid political job. This guy was hired by Perkins Coie to show the dangers of white supremacists lurking on every street, and if they can swim the moat around the Pelosi castle, scale the walls, get past the free Silicon Valley security system and into the house screaming for Nancy...none of us are safe. So...vote Democrat or they'll be coming for you and yours next. Believe me. The headlines are already prepared.

MacMacConnell ayon kay ...

The assailant was a 42 year old man. DA said they don't know the motivation for the attack. I'm guessing it was a mental case jonesing for a pint of Nancy's $12 a pint ice cream or politically motivated. We won't get any more official info till Nancy and her staff form the narrative.

Tom T. ayon kay ...

The middle name "Wayne" is surprisingly indicative of criminality.

exhelodrvr1 ayon kay ...

Is there a waiting period before someone can purchase a hammer?

Enigma ayon kay ...

@Leland wrote: "pro-Castro views"

The Castro is a neighborhood in San Francisco. It's the "downtown" for the gay culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castro_District,_San_Francisco


It's not about Fidel or Justin Trudeau in this case.

Darcy ayon kay ...

If I were married to Nancy Pelosi, I'd be hammered all the time.

Ambrose ayon kay ...

Funny that media is not identifying race or motive. Makes me think it is not a This is MAGA Country” attack.

Wince ayon kay ...

Blame Pete Seeger.

TreeJoe ayon kay ...

When someone is identified so quickly, no picture is shown, his social media is taken down, and yet specific claims about who he is begin to emerge without clear evidence....

I'm pretty sure nothing you read in the first 24 hours can be believed. Maybe 72 hours.

walter ayon kay ...

"Upon arrival, they found BOTH Pelosi and the other man with hammers in their hands fighting each other."
Greaat action sequences! Some nudity. Viewer discretion advised.

Gospace ayon kay ...

https://heavy.com/news/david-depape/
Count on Heavy forinformation on things like this.

It was political- from the left. A left wing nutjob. Quote:

David Depape Is a ‘Former Castro Nudist Protester’ & Hemp ‘Jewelry Maker,’ Reports Say

Does not sound like a MAGA Republicn then, does he? Violence from the left will never be reported as such.

Oddly on one issue, he sees the truth- there's too much censorship of political views.

Ampersand ayon kay ...

Ace of spades website has a name and biographical details that suggest the perp was a Berkeley 42 year old leftist weirdo into hemp jewelry, nude weddings and such. Also, a suggestion that Paul Pelosi may be undergoing brain surgery.

Watch the news spinners spin away.

Wince ayon kay ...

SF Chronicle headline...
Suspect in Paul Pelosi hammer attack identified; reportedly asked ‘Where is Nancy?’

Shabby Road?

Kind of a cross between Maxwell Silver Hammer and Rocky Raccoon?

His rival, it seems, had broken his dreams
By stealing the girl of his fancy
Her name was Magill and she called herself Lil
But everyone knew her as Nancy

Richard Aubrey ayon kay ...

Mac. You presume the narrative didn't precede the attack.

Richard Aubrey ayon kay ...

Mac. You presume the narrative didn't precede the attack.

CapitalistRoader ayon kay ...

San Francisco probably ten years ago was the only time I saw someone walking around nude in public, outside of a nude beach. A young man who looked to be waiting for a bus near the Safeway in the Mission District. I wondered if the bus driver would let him on.

JAORE ayon kay ...

I have no idea of the motive(s). But I'm pretty sure I've heard hate filled violent rhetoric from both sides of the aisle.

Especially from the POTUS this strikes me as inappropriate, even dangerous.

I'm also sure the airwaves will be filled with only "right wing extremists" language.

gadfly ayon kay ...

So Althouse thinks that a break-in of a Democrat local headquarters in Arizona, where no one was injured, is the same as a hammer attack on a stock investment business owner. Obviously, she believes that Kari Lake was telling the truth when she said that Katy Hobbs isn't talking about the incident, but Hobbs has issued a statement and police have arrested a suspect caught on video, who wasn't carrying a weapon.

I suppose that the Jan 6 and all other threats to the Speaker's life are similar to the threats that Hobbs noted in her statement - but Paul Pelosi doesn't look like Nancy. And of course, we know that Kari Lake spreads The Big Lie as do all of TFG's obsequious followers.

MacMacConnell ayon kay ...

"Joe Eskenazi, of Mission Local, tweeted, "My sources also name the suspect in this morning's hammer attack on Paul Pelosi as David DePape, born 1980, of Berkeley. He would appear to be a former Castro nudist protester. Things appear set to be bizarre for a while."
A 2013 article in the San Francisco Chronicle mentions Depape, although his name is spelled wrong. It describes him as a "hemp jewelry maker." That article reported that Depape was the best man at the naked wedding of Gypsy Taub."

"Joe Eskenazi @EskSF
My sources also name the suspect in this morning's hammer attack on Paul Pelosi as David DePape, born 1980, of Berkeley.

He would appear to be a former Castro nudist protester.

Things appear set to be bizarre for a while."

Ace of Spades headline, "Nancy Pelosi's Home Broken Into, Husband Attacked by Thug with a Hammer
LOCAL JOURNALIST: LEFTWING ANTIWAR ATTACKER; STORY IS ABOUT TO VANISH"




RideSpaceMountain ayon kay ...

"Hemp jewelry maker from the Castro District"

Of course he is...
Of fucking course he is...

Damn you Babylon Bee.
Damn you Onion.
I'll see you all in hell!

wendybar ayon kay ...

Do any of YOU trust anything the FBI comes out with after all their lying and cover ups?? Like this one. Now they want to wait 66 years for Seth Rich information they deny they even have.....
They did this to themselves. HOW can we trust anything they say anymore??

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/huge-fbi-now-wants-66-years-releasing-information-seth-rich-information-originally-denied/

wendybar ayon kay ...

gadfly devastated. Another attack that he can't blame on Trump.

effinayright ayon kay ...

gadfly said...
...... but Hobbs has issued a statement and police have arrested a suspect caught on video, who wasn't carrying a weapon.
************

I might as well be the first to say it:

"Paul Pelosi did not hit himself multiple times with a hammer."

Leland ayon kay ...

Ah, so not pro-Castro.

PM ayon kay ...

Okay, that's more like it
CNN: "Last year, David DePape posted links on his Facebook page to multiple videos produced by My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell falsely alleging that the 2020 election was stolen. Other posts included transphobic images and linked to websites claiming Covid vaccines were deadly."
The trifecta!

rcocean ayon kay ...

This gets so tiresome and frustrating. Per the MSM:

1) Republican attacked - no big whoop. No politics involved. Lets all just move along.

2) Democrat attacked - OMG! It was probably a politically motivated Rightwinger. Headlines!

wendybar ayon kay ...

Rand Paul
@RandPaul
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4h

US Senate candidate, KY
No one deserves to be assaulted. Unlike Nancy Pelosi’s daughter who celebrated my assault, I condemn this attack and wish Mr. Pelosi a speedy recovery.

rcocean ayon kay ...

Incredible how Biden, Clinton, Pelosi and all these politicans become multi-millionaires in office. If its not them personally, its their spouses or their families. And somehow they do it all on a salary of $250,000 a year.

Talk about financial genius at work.

HistoryDoc ayon kay ...

Did this meth-addled loon ask "What is the frequency, Kenneth?"

Leland ayon kay ...

Obviously, she believes that Kari Lake was telling the truth when she said that Katy Hobbs isn't talking about the incident, but Hobbs has issued a statement and police have arrested a suspect caught on video, who wasn't carrying a weapon.

Does that make sense to anyone not named John Fetterman?

Drago ayon kay ...

gadfly is an 8 year old.

It's the only explanation that makes sense.

William ayon kay ...

We will NEVER, EVER know all the facts of this matter.

Any questions??

gilbar ayon kay ...

Am I going to have to be the first, to point out, that..

IT'S HAMMER TIME??

Gunner ayon kay ...

Has breaking into a campaign office ever helped anyone beat the person whose office was broken into?

Maynard ayon kay ...

The Police spokesman gave a confusing statement that BOTH Paul Pelosi and the attackers were holding hammers when police arrive. The perp then grabbed Pelosi's hammer and attacked him with it in from of the cops.

So, they were just standing there holding hammers when the cops arrived?

cfs ayon kay ...

I'm more inclined to believe the guy was trying to escape rather than was breaking into the place.

He will probably have a "medical episode" in jail and we will never hear from him again.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Gadfly is suggesting the Great Big Lie that Kari has made threats towards Hobbs. Slander.

but then - we all see daily that Gadfly will do anything for the Big Lie.

wendybar ayon kay ...

Unknown said...
This has much much more of a look of someone trying to LEAVE the house than trying to break INTO it.

10/28/22, 1:56 PM

Looks like you were right....??

https://therightscoop.com/pelosi-attacker-was-in-his-underwear-during-home-invasion/

Achilles ayon kay ...

William said...

We will NEVER, EVER know all the facts of this matter.

Any questions??


Well, there are two options here:

This story will get memory holed or DePape will be transformed from a hemp jewelery manufacturing anti-war protestor into a Trump supporter.

On the other hand it looks like the anti-war crowd are no longer democrats.

That means that they are on the other side of the two tier justice system now. This will be awkward for them.

walter ayon kay ...

If only Gadfly would shut thell up about that guy who drove down that teenager because he thought the kid was MAGA.
I mean, we get it, Gadfly.
Tell us more about The Big Plug that shut down vote counting in multiple states simultaneously.

Achilles ayon kay ...

The fact that the "assailant's" identity wasn't immediately released and plastered all over the media tells you all you need to know about him.

Rusty ayon kay ...

But the hammers were the kind like you get at the carnival. You low them up and when you hit something they make a squeaky noise.

Neither story passes the smell test.

papper ayon kay ...

We should bring back Chesa Boudin to prosecute this case.

Joe Smith ayon kay ...

Nancy hires terrible hit men...

walter ayon kay ...

Did Hobbs send out that statement from inside a public bathroom?

stlcdr ayon kay ...

A couple of people have mentioned it. I think it is related to the car ‘accident’ several months ago.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne ayon kay ...

Temujin said...
More on this: I've heard a second-hand CNN report that says they know a guy who knows a guy who says the assailant entered shouting for Nancy. Now that's believable to me, even if it's 3rd or 4th hand and from CNN.


My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Paul Pelosi pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

RMc ayon kay ...

I will be interested to see whether the incident fits better into the GOP narrative — we're in a horrific crime wave — or the Democratic narrative — domestic terrorism.

Yes, to both.

Matt ayon kay ...

This guy David DePape posted links on his Facebook page to multiple videos produced by My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell falsely alleging that the 2020 election was stolen. Other posts included transphobic images and linked to websites claiming Covid vaccines were deadly. He too posted links to YouTube videos with titles like “Democrat FARCE Commission to Investigate January 6th Capitol Riot COLLAPSES in Congress!!!”... Two days after former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of killing George Floyd, DePape wrote that the trial was “a modern lynching".

But, yeah, not it's not political at all. Nothing to see here. Blame Nancy and the Democrats....

FleetUSA ayon kay ...

If the Pelosi's can't make political hay out of this it will be quickly put under the carpet like Hunter's laptop for a few months at least.

Inga ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Inga ayon kay ...

“If only Gadfly would shut hell up about that guy who drove down that teenager because he thought the kid was MAGA.”

If only Walter would shut the hell up about Heather Heyer who was run down and killed by the neo Nazi at the Unite the Right tiki torch rally in Charlottesville.

Lucien ayon kay ...

Rcocean: Don’t you know that when people go into politics, it is to fulfill a lifelong dream of Public Service, with the realization that they will never make as much as they would in the private sector?

Butkus51 ayon kay ...

For those who care.

Washington post is telling people how to screw twitter advertisers.

paste any link of the NYT, wash post, Atlantic, New Yorker, etc. into the bottom text box of www.Archive.is

no more pay wall

I don't know, but it worked for this article. I didn't actually read the article. It is the NYT after all.

Browndog ayon kay ...

The fact that the "assailant's" identity wasn't immediately released and plastered all over the media tells you all you need to know about him.

Or, her. Or it.

-Nancy hit the tequila instead of wine.
-Harry Reid's treadmill is well traveled.

Pelosi mansion is a fortress. Can't believe so many are taking this at face value.

Iman ayon kay ...

Haven’t read comments here, but there’s a lot of scuttlebutt along the lines of the police were called for a well-being check, a fight between the “intruder” and Pelosi over the hammer broke out after the police got there… and the intruder was arrested in his underwear. Statements along these lines on both the right and the left.

Sounds more like a domestic disturbance than a home invasion… IF true.

effinayright ayon kay ...

Matt absurdly attempts to smear the right:

But, yeah, not it's not political at all. Nothing to see here. Blame Nancy and the Democrats....
********************

The perp is an illegal alien, who was born in Canada and came here 20 years ago.

He has a long rap sheet, is notorious for being bat-shit crazy, and purportedly lives in a storage locker.

Yeah, typical Maga voter.

Peachy ayon kay ...

“Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) denounced the attack, and wished Paul Pelosi well while also noting that when he was attacked, Christine Pelosi, the daughter of Paul and Nancy Pelosi, tweeted ‘Rand Paul’s neighbor was right.'”

Pelosi family = corrupt hot garbage.

Paul ayon kay ...

Luke 12:16-21

BUMBLE BEE ayon kay ...

So... this guy broke into my mansion around 2 A.M.. I immediately reached into the nightstand drawer where I keep my 16 ounce Estwing, stashed for just such an emergency. The fight was on!

Dave Begley ayon kay ...

Here’s the thing. Today we can’t believe a thing the SF cops, County Attorney or the media says about this. They’re all corrupt. They have no credillity.

Peachy ayon kay ...

When you can't frame/blame MAGA - go silent.

Media will comply.

Big Mike ayon kay ...

I read that Paul Pelosi is now undergoing brain surgery due to the effects of the attack. I hope the operation is successful, and that he achieves a full recovery.

Mason G ayon kay ...

"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Paul Pelosi pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."

Always nice to get get good intel.

Temujin ayon kay ...

I guess the 'nuts' option won out.

It's good to see the news networks covering actual crime and decrying the perpetrator. This is new territory for them.

Iman ayon kay ...

It seems clear that the intruder insisted on raw-dogging Pelosi and Pelosi wasn’t in the mood.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

I watched the police update- I think it pretty obvious that Temujin nailed it- gay tryst gone bad.

Joe Smith ayon kay ...

'Other posts included transphobic images...'

That does it...I don't care if he's a puppy torturer.

Transphobic images?

Death penalty!!

Iman ayon kay ...

“Just two dudes, in their underwear, hanging pictures together, Officer....”

Jim at ayon kay ...

If only Walter would shut up about Heather Heyer who was run down and killed by the neo Nazi at the Unite the Right tiki torch rally in Charlottesville.

Completely different circumstances, twit. The Republican kid was targeted simply and solely because he was a Republican. Heyer was run over because she and her fellow mobsters were in the street.

Mary Beth ayon kay ...

Is it weird that the broken glass looks like it's outside the house instead of inside. Was he trying to break in or out? Maybe there's more inside that that just bounced out or something. You know how bouncy glass is.

The "Where's Nancy?" part seems a bit over the top. Also, do these people not have an alarm system? Why did Pelosi have to excuse himself to go to the bathroom to get his phone to call the police? If my home had a wall around it, there would be motion detectors outside and sensors on the windows and doors.

gilbar ayon kay ...

yep, sounds like a TYPICAL republican!
..ended up in the Berkeley area, an ultra-liberal enclave of the city, where he lived in a three-bedroom Victorian flat with famed nudist activist Gypsy Taub and a group who believed 9/11 was an 'inside job'.

A November 2008 article in the Oakland Tribune reported that he had ‘three small children’ with Russian-born Taub.
Taub and her fiance Jaymz Smith tapped DePape to be their best man at their nudist wedding in 2013,He posted obscene versions of Disney songs from YouTube including one titled: ‘Do you want to **** a snowman?’ He posted a screed containing the n-word, and a post titled ‘This is what a dumb b***h looks like’. Others were titled: ‘Noah survived the collapse of Atlantis’, ‘Pedophile normalization’, ‘Facts are Racist’, ‘Communist Voodoo science’, ‘I’m not sexist’ and ‘Feminist gets owned’. He also posted long screeds about religion, including claims that 'Jesus is the anti christ.' it was unclear who the hammer belonged to - if DePape brought it with him or if Paul Pelosi had it for defensive reasons.

n.n ayon kay ...

"That does it...I don't care if he's a puppy torturer"

People, certainly. Puppies, too? Progress.

"Transphobic images"

Trans/homosexual, probably.

"Death penalty!!"

Planned Parenthood, planned parent/hood. Now, we know, the origin of witch myths. Wicked.

"Covid vaccines were deadly"

Nonsterilizing, therapeutic treatments with excess associated adverse events. You're not doing it for granny.

Michael K ayon kay ...

This story gets fishier ever hour.

Michael K ayon kay ...


If only Walter would shut the hell up about Heather Heyer who was run down and killed by the neo Nazi at the Unite the Right tiki torch rally in Charlottesville.


What a liar you are, Inga. She was part of a left wing crowd blocking the street.

Bunkypotatohead ayon kay ...

They should take it up with London Breed and Brooke Jenkins.

Bob Boyd ayon kay ...

When you're holding a hammer, Paul Pelosi looks like a nail.

Paul ayon kay ...

So both of 'em were in their underwear???

Was this a gay lover fight?

Inga ayon kay ...

“She was part of a left wing crowd blocking the street.”

So fucking what?! What is wrong with you?

Jersey Fled ayon kay ...

I’m personally going to invoke the 72 hour rule.

Inga ayon kay ...

You really are a a fossilized piece of dung Micheal K.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/06/28/james-fields-jr-charlottesville-sentencing-heather-heyer-unite-the-right/1587233001/

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — James Fields Jr., an avowed white supremacist who rammed his car into counter-protesters of a

“Unite the Right” rally in 2017, killing Heather Heyer and injuring dozens of others, was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of release on hate crime charges Friday.

"Protection of the public requires a life sentence without release," said U.S. District Court Judge Michael Urbanski.

Before the sentencing, Fields, a 22-year-old from Maumee, Ohio, walked to a podium to address the court, speaking to the judge in an even, unemotional voice.

“I apologize for the hurt and loss I’ve caused,” he said. “Every day I think about how things could have gone differently and how I regret my actions. I’m sorry.””

Mason G ayon kay ...

From the NYT...

"Three San Francisco police officers responding to an emergency call..."

Why wasn't a social worker called? Enquiring minds would like to know.

Marc in Eugene ayon kay ...

I saw, earlier, that Kari Lake invited Elon Musk to move Twitter headquarters to Arizona, which I thought was a clever use of Twitter.

iowan2 ayon kay ...

I don't trust anything the cops are saying.

I don't know what happened, but I do know Harry Reid gave his treadmill to Pelosi's. For what thats worth.

Readering ayon kay ...

Defamation--once you get a taste for it, you can feed the appetite in all kinds of ways.

Indigo Red ayon kay ...

The alleged assailant, Dupape, a white male, is an adherent of the Green Party and resides in the Castro District of San Francisco in a house he shares with nudists. He has been living in the US for 20 after leaving his adoptive family in British Columbia, Canada.

Not a Trumpist. Not a Republican. Not a Conservative. Not a sartorialist. Probably not a US citizen.

There was only one hammer, and it belonged to Paul Pelosi.

Big Mike ayon kay ...

Michael K. Is merely invoking a very old rule: don’t start nothin’, won’t be nothin’. Heather Heyer was engaged in an unlawful activity. She paid terribly for it, but she was not legally where she was when she died. One life ended and another destroyed because both were drive by raw hatred. You’d think even Inga could learn something from that. Yet she goes on with her hatred.

walter ayon kay ...

Yes Inga,
How could we possibly forget about Heather Heyer! Heather Hyer!
You were likely shouting that at the distressed Waukesha Christmas parade victims.
Standing over the dead: "Heather Hyer! Bwak! Heather Hyer!"

Michael K ayon kay ...

Blogger Inga said...

You really are a a fossilized piece of dung Micheal K.


There is a line in literature. "To be called a dastard by a dastard, is to be called righteous by all good people."

The Heyer woman was in a crowd blocking the street. The driver may have been attacked causing him to accelerate into the crowd. I've looked at length at that incident, which I doubt you have. You read the leftist version and believe it.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

Is it defamation if I call you a moron, Readering?

Crazy World ayon kay ...

Ol nance should resign to spend more time with her family, for the good of the country.

alanc709 ayon kay ...

According to Inga, you can break any law without consequence, as long as you are reliably left-wing. If anyone is a piece of dung, it's you, Inga. But that's not so. What you are, Inga, is pure evil, nothing more.

Chris N ayon kay ...

Probably a hemp jewelry transaction gone bad.

Lurker21 ayon kay ...

We're finding out that conspiracy theories are often true. This is a reminder, though, that nuttier conspiracy theories get taken up by people who are already unstable. Anybody who hears voices telling him what to do isn't reliably rightwing or leftwing, but if the early accounts are right the assailant does seem to have picked up a lot of ideas on the internet about Communists and feminists and pedophiles in government. So, yes, there may be more involved in this than we now know, but this will be used by the regime to crack down, and if what's come out is true, it does cut a little too close to some on the internet.

Mary Beth ayon kay ...

alanc709, see Hanlon's Law.

Jim at ayon kay ...

So fucking what?! What is wrong with you?

You were the one to draw the comparison where none exists.
What is wrong with you?

One person was run over because she was rioting in the streets.
The other person was run over simply because he was a Republican.

Fuck you people.

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