From "King Charles: oldest new monarch ever. How will he handle his reign?"
Stephen Bates (The Guardian).
Speaking of "handling," can we talk about King Charles's hands? Perhaps you've seen the closeup photos of his hands, with their very swollen "sausage fingers"...
... and perhaps you've connected it to the alarmingly dark gray-purple hands Queen Elizabeth displayed in her last photographs.
There's this in The International News: "King Charles causes a major uproar in concern and panic after news of Queen Elizabeth’s bruised fingers ended in the monarch’s eventual death." (International News). A doctor with no access to Charles opines generally about edema in old people. It's common, and not in itself cause for alarm. But he's not common. He's royal. And so we will talk about his health. People who watch royalty are always, inherently on a deathwatch. No sooner does one monarch die than they proclaim "Long live the King," start a new deathwatch, and intensify their gaze at who's next.
From the Guardian article:
But [Charles] has a much younger, more personable heir standing right behind him on the balcony. Might it not make sense, people will be saying, to get on to the next generation for the sake of the monarchy’s future?
Oh, no. Abdication ruins the whole mystique. You can't shore this thing up by letting go. The swollen fingers must hang on.
I was going to work out a witticism based on the NRA slogan, "I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands." But the monarchy passes to the next in line the instant the king is dead. The body is still fully warm, and there's no rigor mortis necessitating prying. There's no giving or taking at all. And yet the monarchy is not a tangible object, like a gun. It is merely an idea, and it could be unthought.
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No, I see him as Charles the Tampon,
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“His Reign” refers Tom a Disneyworld fantasy land entertainment business. The Nation State and its military can still use
him as a figurehead which is something. But this German Windsor has lived more like Charles ll than Elizabeth ll. We will have to keep up with whether he is with the Protestant whore or some another whore. The narrative that this self centered creep
will become a devoted saintly servant like his mother was is a false hope.
We re-watched "The King's Speech" (a magnificent film) last night. Long Live the King is proclaimed instantly, people kissing the new king's hand while the body of the last one lies exhaling his last breath. It was interesting to watch, thinking of Charles.
I didn't know his fingers were so creepy, though. Yikes.
The monarchy is as real as the gun in the NRA's slogan. Both are abstractions of rights and duties embodied in a person: the gun owner or the monarch. An evocative comparison.
Bruising is not uncommon for anyone on a blood thinner, and especially common on hands and arms. Warfarin (rat poison) is the usual suspect.
The king is on steroids?
Practice makes perfect: he's been a homeopathic joke for decades and will screw it up.
I'm not sure what they imagine Charles could do wrong. Or right. Is there an actual job?
I'm still impressed that one old Pope stepped aside, and I guess is still rattling around the Vatican somewhere, and now there is another old Pope who hasn't stepped aside. I wonder if Charles could go back to doing what he was doing, and let William be King.
That ring looks painful. It’s not a good sign that Chatles, only days into his reign, is already sparking worries that he will be not merely a bad king, but so bad that he brings down the line and even the monarchy.
Agreed, though, that he won’t abdicate. Elizabeth herself should have arranged for him to be skipped. Too late now.
Likely the Queen had an IV in her hand recently that would account for the bruising. The elderly often bruise much more easily.
He's ended up with Head of the Commonwealth, too.
What I find amazing is that no matter how large he grows them sausages, that Mafia pinky ring never comes off. Pinky Blinder represent, yo!
"Can he manage the chief object of all his predecessors since time immemorial of passing on the crown untarnished, safely, to his heirs and successors?"
For every Elizabeth II and George V, there's an Edward VIII or George IV who cared not at all about preserving the crown's lustre.
Charles isn't going to pass over the promotion to the head of the family firm after he spent his entire life waiting for it.
Charles has gone on record to say thar "green" issues are his personal interest and that his role as head of state is completely separate. The Guardian will want him dethroned if he follows through on that thought.
In You’ve Got Mail, I noticed that time was marching on even for Tom Hanks when he sweetly covered Meg Ryan’s mouth with his hand to stop her from talking… in his very early 40s and sausage fingers already.
So is he King Charles the third?
Or King Chuck the first?
Charles 1 came to a very bad end getting his head lopped off and ushering in a republic.
At that time parliament had an army. As did a number of dukes.
The royals learned their lesson. Now all military belong to them. Dukes and the English people have been neutered and disarmed.
John stop fascism vote republican Henry
He is not managing the monarchy, he is managing "The Firm," the family wealth, which is now estimated at holdings of businesses and real estate worth over $28,000,000,000. This does not include the annual payments to the Royal Family for their public royal duties, nor the revenue from the monarch's personal holdings, which come to just a mere billion more.
Off with their heads. The Norman Conquest is no longer a valid reason for holding titles nor title to property.
The dark area on the Queens hand looks like the sort of bruise may people her age get from what may even be a slight bump. I’ve seen many of these types of bruises on the elderly. As for the King, a number of things could cause swollen fingers, from autoimmune disorders to congestive heart failure
“What causes purple bruising in elderly?
Senile purpura is benign, easy bruising that affects older adults. It's sometimes called actinic purpura. This occurs because the skin and the blood vessels become more fragile as we age, making it easier for our skin to bruise from minor trauma.”
Maybe he caught "finger pox" from Putin.
Have a case (being handled by a young associate) in which an 86-year old woman tripped over a parking bumper outside a client's store and struck her cheek. Was treated (the following day) for what was essentially a black eye. Not a big deal, really. But the photos are absolutely horrific--the entire side of her face looks like a dark purple mask, from eyebrow to chin. Some old people bruise easily and spectacularly.
What if his reign is more like John Paul I than Elizabeth II?
Maybe it’s because they were the same age and from the same times, but she looks so much like my mother it’s almost disconcerting.
My mother died a couple of years ago at age 92. Her hands looked looked very much like The Queens. At that age the skin becomes extremely fragile and there is a tendency to bruise easily.
Whatever the moral crimes of England and its colonialist oppression, Queen Elizabeth connected us to a time when Great Britian and the United States briefly held the moral high ground during WWII. When she and others born in her time witnessed in their lifetimes was incredible. With her passes a better generation.
King Charles is a jealous boomer. He couldn't handle being second fiddle to Diana's immense popularity. She was beautiful, flawed, and her compassion came across as genuine. That was too much for Prince Narcissist to handle. Unlike JFK he held no real power. So utilizing the admiration of his beautiful wife was not in his wheelhouse. He was too much of a spoiled brat to realize that by promoting Diana...he could promote himself. King Charles is a douchebag. Sadly...so are his private jet flying global warming sons. Kate seems sane. Meghan is probably the closest to Charles in her self centered narcissism. Harry is a cuck.
With only symbolic "power" in Great Britain, once this funeral is over King Charles will become a Klaus Schwab globalist puppet. He'll be King Sophist flying around in private jets selling climate change lies asking for sacrifices only from his subjects and the serfs. He'll see it as a chance to be a real King and leave behind some legacy.
When his subjects are sweating in the summer, cold in the winter, sacrificing food to pay heating bills, and sitting in the dark as the blackouts roll...King Charls will let them all eat cake.
other than name similarity is there any dynastic/genetic connection among the Charleses?
Agreed, though, that he won’t abdicate. Elizabeth herself should have arranged for him to be skipped. Too late now.
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she could have enjoyed some sausages before death and sent a message.
Blogger gspencer said...
No, I see him as Charles the Tampon,
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may be Camilla exclaimed : they are so !!!big???
hand-size was brought up during the reign of Trump : it is now UK time
Passing on the crown untarnished and safely? As has been done since time immemorial? What kind of fairy tale is that from?
Passing the crown on safely without incident is a rarity in history. Just knowing Cromwell existed, and in Great Britain no less, should be enough to keep someone from writing such nonsense.
People today like to think kings and emperors are an anachronism, and when the last king or emperor is displaced, none will ever rise again.
So quickly, explain the difference between Kim Jong-un and a king. Both receive their position through hereditary means, and both exercise power based on their ancestors having done so. Whether in name or not, hereditary dictatorships are kingdoms. And they continually arise in the modern world.
Why I think a constitutional amendment should be added to prevent any first or second degree relative or spouse holding any federal or state elected office representing the same area. The Kennedy name in Massachusetts should not be a ticket to elective office as it is now, nor should the Cuomo name in NY. Though Andrew seems to have tarnished it…
Nevil Shute wrote about this in 1953 though he set it in 1983.
Perhaps it's time to reread "In the Wet".
John stop fascism vote republican Henry
Nevil Shute wrote about this in 1953 though he set it in 1983.
Perhaps it's time to reread "In the Wet".
John stop fascism vote republican Henry
It's disappointing that the rightful Stuart heirs, the kings over the water, are frozen out yet again.
The Wittelsbachs must feel like Charlie Brown by now.
Gsspencer,
Now that you mention it, his fingers do look like lightly used tampons.
We have a duty as Americans to mock monarchy in general and Chuck in particular.
John stop fascism vote republican Henry
Here's to hoping the UK can withstand the coming idiocy from this moron. He's clearly one of the stupidest and most gullible royals around. 50:50 odds the monarchy dies with this one. If it makes it to the next generation, 80:20 it dies.
The royals learned their lesson. Now all military belong to them. Dukes and the English people have been neutered and disarmed.
Nope. The Royal Navy and Royal Air Force are both "Royal." Not the Army.
Like Rollo, my thought was of Putin.
The UK's Navy and AF are "Royal," but the Army belongs to Parliament (they just don't label it as such) and Parliament pays them all.
He will be the Andropov of English monarchs or, perhaps, even Chernenko. He's old and over the years he hasn't banked much in the way of public esteem or affection. Rather the opposite. Iirc, he was the heavy in the Princess Diana soap opera. It would have gone better for him if he had married someone like Camilla and cheated on her with someone like Diana. It's as if Clinton cheated on Hillary with Amy Klobuchar. The lines don't scan. There was more pathos than passion to his cheating.. ...If you didn't like the monarchy, your dislike was minimized by Queen Elizabeth. If you don't like the monarchy, your dislike will be amplified by King Charles...The best thing he can do for the monarchy is to abdicate in favor of William. William is bald, dependable, and dull with a hot wife. He'd make a much better King. Far more regal in his bearing.
The Brits need the monarchy to keep the Scots in the United Kingdom. Charles losing the crown of his various subsidiary realms would be a blow, but Scottish independence, even if done Canadian-style where he remains the monarch, would mark the end of an era. The United Kingdom of Southern Great Britain and Northern Ireland has no ring to it.
The British know very well that the monarchy and its pageantry are the only thing that sets their nation apart in this world. Without it, they're just Ireland without the rustic charm.
And they're not going to go right to William, because that strips away the drama. The old man taking over after waiting so long, the next heir waiting in the wings, that's a story for the world to follow.
Perhaps as the queen continued paying Andrew’s maintenance after she yanked everything away after the Epstein stuff a few years ago, she felt like she couldn’t bypass Charles for William even though she’d have been well within her rights to do just that. Charles has seemed to be the odd man out among those kids. Anne -dutiful, Andrew-Randy Andy, Edward (and Sophie)- the most stable of the bunch.
William and Catherine would have been much better choices. Charles always looks a bit confused to my eye, but I did watch an hour-long PBS thing about renovating an estate house and providing training for underemployed young folks. He was very engaged, so what the heck do I know? 😅
'How otherwise will he make his mark on history?'
Not sure the modern royalty can make any real mark as they are apolitical.
They are ceremonial potted plants.
Not a doctor, but those fingers look really bad.
They look like Mike Meyers wearing Fat Bastard prosthetics...
Oh, and that wasn’t the chief object of all his predecessors. Sure, there was a desire for an heir, but it wasn’t at all about leaving the crown untarnished. Try maintaining a family dynasty regardless the cost. More like it.
Maybe Harry will work from exile to seize the throne. Elizabeth might have had the opportunity to pass the crown to William but obviously waited too long. Kind of like RBG passing and not having a good successor lined up. Or William could work to lock Charles into the Tower of London on some trumped up charge. Or they could take the monarchy public and sell shares. ESG and DEI could provide guidance instead of divine right. Lots of options.
I, [soldier's or commissioned officer's name], swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles III, his heirs and successors and that I will as in duty bound honestly and faithfully defend His Majesty, his heirs and successors in person, crown and dignity against all enemies and will observe and obey all orders of His Majesty, his heirs, and successors and of the generals and officers set over me.[215]
Edward VII was well past middle age and not the picture of health when his mother, Victoria, died, and reigned 9 years and 105 days. (England has had an unusual share of regnant queens -- four or five since the Conquest, depending on one's opinion of Matilda Fitzempress.) Those horrid fingers suggest Charles III won't last that long.
I haven't seen such blimp-fingers in a long time. I wonder about his health.
That’s the photo you see when you look up short-fingered vulgarian in the dictionary.
Prince Charles’ fingers have looked that way for at least the past decade.
In addition til the army, the tax collectors and anyone else wh draws a govt paycheck swears a similar path of loyalty to Chuck.
They don't collect taxes at the behest of parliament. They collect them under chucks authority and command.
John stop fascism vote republican Henry
why is climatisto Chuckie wearing military regalia?
I've never understood the love love love for Lady Di. (I've never understood the Charles-Camilla attraction either--love is indeed blind, I suppose.) Diana knew she was hired as a brood-sow, or should have.
Personally I love the irony that the Stuart claimant currently is a Kraut, and as for family relationships, with Euroyalty you can usually find something.
It has to be said that the Windsors are not in the main handsome people.
The Crack Emcee said...Practice makes perfect: he's been a homeopathic joke for decades and will screw it up.
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Fucker probably does Yoga!
"It's as if Clinton cheated on Hillary with Amy Klobuchar."
LOL. Kudos, William, kudos. Spot-on.
Like others, I had assumed QEII's bruising a result of an IV, or just being old. But yikes! Charles' fingers! They look so uncomfortable and unhealthy.
“Nope. The Royal Navy and Royal Air Force are both "Royal." Not the Army.”
Except that, if I am not mistaken, there are royal regiments. I think that the monarchy paid for them back when Chuck’s namesakes were around. The royal regiments are the ones that parade for the monarchy, and are billeted close to the monarchy, when they aren't deployed elsewhere.
Maybe Raynaud's? If you check out the pictures of Lady Louise, Prince Edward's daughter, on the Daily Mail, her hands exhibit the same dusky purplish color.
I remember when MLB Commissioner A. Bartlett Giamatti died in Sept. 1989, someone (a medical doctor, as I recall) mentioned that when he saw Giamatti’s fingers being fat, that Giamatti must have heart issues. Giamatti was a heavy smoker and he died of a heart attack on Sept. 1, 1989 at age 51. When I saw Charles “fat fingers” photo earlier today, I immediately thought of Bart Giamatti and his very short reign as baseball commissioner of exactly 5 months.
The fingers picture does not comport with other current pictures of his completely normal hands. And fingers.
I read that a mourner in Edinburgh said: "She never let us down." What a tribute. Bush, Clinton, Obama. They let us down. Clinton and Monica. Bush is denouncing his own former voters as deplorable. racist, whatevers. Clinton and Bush let our manufacturing power slip away. Obama left the black community poorer ad smaller in numbers than when they elected him. And others hoped he'd show the way out of an impasse. They all let us down.
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Edward VII was well past middle age and not the picture of health when his mother, Victoria, died, and reigned 9 years and 105 days. (England has had an unusual share of regnant queens -- four or five since the Conquest, depending on one's opinion of Matilda Fitzempress.) Those horrid fingers suggest Charles III won't last that long.
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can Carolus Crassus Digitos abdicate in favor of sister Anne?
Charles is not going to abdicate. He will reign until he dies unless the brits abolish the monarchy. He will also like his mother be much more circumspect in his public comments and opinions. He will have much less personal liberty as king than he had as prince.
I'm glad to see someone include Matilda in the discussion. I do think she was a rightful ruler, but caught in the unfortunate circumstances of the time. She may have had a better go of it if she hadn't been sent to Germany as a girl to marry Henry. She returned to England much more German in her ways, and it may not have endeared her to the Norman barons all that much.
I looked at some of the post-coronation pictures of King Charles III today, where he's waving at the crowd. Fat fingers.
Charles' biggest problem for me is that every time I see him, I'm reminded of Wallace & Grommit. Can't wait to see his dog to test my theory.
This is a bit off-topic but I was wondering if anyone responded to a comment I made several days ago on another thread. I can’t remember the topic nor the comment, just that it was a sterling comment, one I was quite proud of, one that likely elicited a ton of quotes and praise.
So let me know if you saw it. And what it was about. Wink.
1. Re C3's hands: I'm 6 years older, have been on blood thinners for many years, have always had short stubby fingers, but my fingers don't look ANYTHING like that photo. I wouldn't trust a diagnosis based on a single photograph.
2. How about waiting to see how C3 actually handles the King job before writing him off? Sure, E2 is a tough act to follow. On the other hand, she provided a pretty good role model.
3. There's a new PM, in case you haven't heard, and her position on the issues matters. C3's position, not so much (not at all, if he plays it straight, as he has promised).
The sausage fingers suggest that he is retaining a lot of water, probably due to the medications he is taking.
However, I am not that kind of doctor. I am interested in what Michael K. would have to say.
Charles may step down before his death but not now for a very sensible reason: if he did, then 2nd in line becomes a very young boy, George. I can imagine Charles and William making the decision to keep the lad as #3 as long as it takes to have him mature into a young man so that God forbid anything happen to his father, England does not see a child on the throne.
That being said, I think that privately Charles and William will have something close to a co-regency. I expect to see William "assisting" His Majesty in more kingly duties as time progresses. I got the sense that "the Firm" was run solely by Elizabeth II but now it has a CEO and COO who are on the same page - which means no more slack for Andrew and Harry.
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