I'm reading "Liz Cheney Invokes Lincoln and Grant in Impassioned Concession Speech" (NYT).
Much like the remarks she delivered at the Jan. 6 committee’s hearings, it was a speech that seemed directed not just at Republican voters, but at a wider national audience.
That was evident in her paraphrase of a quote popularized by the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. — “It has been said that the long arc of history bends toward justice and freedom. That’s true, but only if we make it bend” — and even more so a few minutes later, when she turned her attention to the Civil War....
“As the fires of the battles still smoldered, Grant rode to the head of the column,” she said. “He rode to the intersection of Brock Road and Orange Plank Road. And there, as the men of his army watched and waited, instead of turning north, back toward Washington and safety, Grant turned his horse south toward Richmond and the heart of Lee’s army. Refusing to retreat, he pressed on to victory.”
General Grant, President Abraham Lincoln “and all who fought in our nation’s tragic Civil War, including my own great-great-grandfathers, saved our union,” Ms. Cheney said. “Their courage saved freedom, and if we listen closely, they are speaking to us down through generations. We must not idly squander what so many have fought and died for.”
Self-dramatizing and self-aggrandizing. Ironically, by contrast, Trump seems modest and self-effacing.
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The best thing about the Liz Cheney shellacking is they won't learn anything from it.
Trump has always used self-deprecation, like Rush Limbaugh back when he was funny, in the form of a larger than life figure.
Inability to read Trump is widespread. It's like not having a sense of humor, closely related.
"Self-dramatizing and self-aggrandizing. Ironically, by contrast, Trump seems modest and self-effacing."
Yeah. Liz Cheney fell victim to the McCain Syndrome--the self-satisfaction some people get from cheap-shotting your friends and allies to the applause of your enemies.
Donald Trump's greatest sin appears to be trying--with some success--to actually do the things that he campaigned on. What better ideas did Liz Cheney have? Trump's foreign policies got many fewer people killed than Dick Cheney's. Twenty years of war in the Middle East with no end in sight--that is the Cheney family legacy.
She fancies herself a General Grant but she’s really more of a General Custer.
Cheney for president!
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Maybe with Meghan McCain as her vp
John LGBTQ+ Henry
Great people speaking to us down from history is one thing, current politicians speaking down to us is another.
She saw in overwhelming numbers how her constituents felt and still thinks she is right. That's why she was voted out.
This is how democracy works. The Republicans and the Republicans-for-a-day in Wyoming have used their votes to choose their Republican candidate in the November midterms. The majority of them don't want Liz Cheney to represent them. Cheney failed to serve her Republican constituents in the past so they fired her. No conspiracies. No evil genius defeated her. Just democracy at work.
I assume her speech was satire.
Trump and Cheney: Two camera hogs, but only one camera
"Great people did great things, therefore I am a great person."
People have tried for several years to send her a message, but she refused to get it. Now it doesn't matter. She can safely spend the rest of her life not getting it and no one need care.
The Germans thought they were saving the world from the Jews.
Yes, they invaded a few countries but the moral arc of the universe wouldn’t bend otherwise.
You mean I might not off base when I got the feeling that Lynn Cheney might have been more interested in avenging a family grudge than getting an accurate account of what happened on January 6th?
She could have won, but that would have required she represent the people of Wyoming and she's better than that, I guess.
What national audience?
would democrats vote for her?
would independents vote for her?
would republicans vote for her?
she seems to have done a Good Job, of alienating MOST of the country
One must be thoroughly cloistered inside the Beltway/Media bubble to not see how much the working class despises the Bush and Cheney clans for the damage they've done to the country.
Just another deer in the headlights on Orange Man Road.
I knew Abraham Lincoln. Liz you're no Abraham Lincoln.
Humiliation is not too strong a word for you and your heartless dad.
Yeah, looking back to Trump's concession speech in contrast to Cheney's....
Liz is going to be our new Secretary of Defense. Historic.
Ugh. Those living in the bubble of their own self-aggrandizing worth, telling us they're saving the nation, saving the planet, and using every tactic available to them, including manipulating our laws, our DoJ, the media, and Big Tech to do so, are now living with the curtain pulled back. They are out there in front of us. We see them for what they are, yet they still think they can get on with the way they have always done. Lip service to the serfs, while they amass millions selling out their own nation, twisting our society, working on separating the citizens instead of bringing them together.
Someone should tell Liz Cheney that standing arm in arm with the likes of an Adam Schiff is not something Lincoln, nor Grant would have done. Lincoln would not have sat in the same room with that little conniving liar. We are what we do, not what we say. And we are also shown by who we choose to stand with. Liz has chosen the bottom feeders. May she enjoy the view there from now on.
What frauds the Cheney are. Good riddance. America is a better place today. Thank you Republican voting folks of Wyoming!
She climbed aboard the TDS bandwagon long ago. She thought impreaching a president AFTER he left office was in line with the Constitution? There's no coming back from that one, Liz.
She might as well just go back to being the child of a former Vice-President. It has a lot of perks, and allows her to feel important.
Something like 500,000 casualties in our Civil War. She’s way out of bounds with that analogy. Did she compare Trump to Hitler?
Good riddance.
There has been some speculation that Liz Cheney will attempt to run for president. How would that even work? Does she think Republicans, who just overwhelmingly rejected her, will vote for her? That she is going to swoop in and beat Trump in the primary? How delusional is she?
They only way I could see a presidential run occurring is if she took Democrat and Never Trumper money to run as an independent, in an attempt to peel votes away from Trump and tank his candidacy. But anyone that would vote for her were probably never going to vote for Trump anyway. I could see this actually peeling votes away from Biden, or whomever the Democrats actually nominate.
Glenn Youngkin in Virginia and Katie Britt in Alabama proved you didn’t have to embrace Trumps position on the 2020 election. You can thread the needle by recognizing that election integrity needs to be improved without full on claiming the 2020 election was rigged. It requires a thoughtful, well planned campaign.
She didn’t have to go along with any of that.
All she had to do was not let herself be used as a useful idiot by Nancy Pelosi.
Instead, she went along with the other side of the false choice. It wasn't "stolen," but neither was there a "coup" or "insurrection." What happened was serious, and deserved a serious inquiry. It also deserved her looking out for her fellow citizens who have been treated far out of proportion to the charges they face warrant. Instead, she signed onto her ostensible political rivals' jeremiad - their own "Big Lie" - that aims to suppress the political activities of her own party.
Rinos think the party loves them. THAT party is done, and has been done. Time for the Cheneys, the Bushes, the Clintons, the Kennedys and every other dynasty to go BYE BYE!!
"The path was clear. But it would have required that I go along with President Trump’s lie about the 2020 election."
No, it would have required that you speak about anything, ANYTHING AT ALL IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE other than Trump. It would have required you to exhale without speaking his name.
Setting the rest of his traits aside, Ahab was not much of a conversationalist.
I would love to see a no holds barred debate with the rigging deniers, but so many valid arguments are ruled out of bounds by the media that she can keep mouthing off without pushback.
If she feels serving in Congress is her higher calling, she should try running in VA for the seat in the district she actually resides. That would be more honest Abe like.
That is one of the most violent, warmongering speeches I’ve read. She’s comparing herself to two wartime Presidents. Good riddance.
What!?! Hold on....SHE LOST? Dick wore a cowboy hat and everything!
This is fake news. I shall not believe that cowboy hats no longer 'play in Peoria'. I simply shannot.
Liz is going to be our new Secretary of Defense.
Maybe the Regime promised Liz she could start a war somewhere and make Daddy proud if she helped them get Trump.
Maybe it will be in Wyoming. Liz seems to envision herself as a heroic figure, riding bravely out from Washington DC, to crush the rebels.
Liz Cheney's pronouns are DONE/GONE!!! (stolen from a post on GAB)
I posted this elsewhere but it might be more appropriate here. There is a bigger battle space than Cheney. Stop celebrating before you win the actual war.
I have great fear that the D effort to make the midterms about Trump is succeeding. They have successfully turned the conversation from Biden’s failures to Trump, Trump, Trump.
Are we once again being outsmarted? If the red wave in November turns into a trickle this country is screwed. The battleground is for independents and disaffected, normal D’s who want safe neighborhoods, no inflation and good schools. The D’s have put up a tactical feint and made the conversation about a guy who is not even on the ballot.
Trump was a great President but has allowed himself to be made into the most divisive figure in recent US history. The R purity test requiring Trump support may turn out to be incredibly self destructive. I’d rather have a 60 seat R senate with 10 RINOs than a 48 seat minority that is ideologically pure.
The D’s got control of every major institution incrementally. It took patience and winning small battles that accumulated over time. How else did red states like Georgia or my part of PA turn from red to blue? It may take the same strategy to get those institutions back.
she never lived in wyoming.. in her life
her dad was born in wyoming, went to school in wisconsin, worked in washington dc, then spent THE rest of his life in texas...
Then, when he picked himself to be Bush's running mate; he "moved" to wyoming so they could get texas' electoral votes. Even the move wasn't about wyoming.
Meanwhile, lizard worked in dc.. Until she decided that she could buy herself into the wyoming primary in 2016; which she 'won' by about 15,000 votes in a field of 5 candidates.
Once she 'won' the primary, she was elected (there are NOT many democrats in wyo)
Once elected, she did WHAT for wyoming? Oppose trump? wyoming is more solidly pro-trump than Any other state.
What exactly, is the position of State Representative supposed to do, anyway?
It would have required that she didn't team up with the liars Pelosi, Schiff, and Swallwell to take down a duly elected President because they didn't like him.
Enjoy this feeling of vindication. It's important for keeping your spirits up. Well done.
Mr. Forward nailed it.
In the leftist hive mind it will always be 2019 and Trump will always be colluding with the Russians. Forever.
"Conservative" voice on "The View"!
There is a HUGE part of the country that knows the 2020 election was rigged. There is also a huge part of the country that knows the election was rigged, and liked the outcome of the fraud, because honoring themselves and self-preservation is their main priority.
Liz Cheney and her ilk are in the later group.
Sadly so is 95% of the education establishment.
Trump as General Grant would be a more accurate Civil War analogy, Liz. Flawed, but knows who the enemy is, and knows the best approach is to go straight at them.
The people of Wyoming had forfeited her trust, Ms. Cheney noted, and could only regain it by redoubling their efforts against Mr. Trump.
Basically, Liz Cheney called Wyoming GOP Primary voter crazy pieces of shit on her way out the door.
They'll come up with some Joe and Mika fawning "alternative GOP ticket" with Liz and Mitt Romney or something. Maybe Pence. Then they can pretend they are giving balanced air time to "conservatives".
Last night CNN rushed Bill Kristol on for analysis, a con artist absent of all BDE.
The logical implication of what she is saying - the unspoken part - Is that all the people that voted for her opponent, *did* go along with “the big lie.” Or put differently Cheney thinks the Wyoming voters are either stupid or evil.
You’re not gonna win very many elections with that posture. “Hey, vote for me, you stupid evil people.”
"It would have required that I enable his ongoing efforts to unravel our democratic system and attack the foundations of our republic."
As others have noted, you could have just shut up about it. As the saying goes: What difference, at this point, does it make?
Liz Cheney seems delusional. 29% to 66% isn't even close. Her job is to represent the citizens of Wyoming, but she is a major player opposing the views of her constituents.
Cheney is an establishment Republican with a good lineage. Did she believe that her people would regain control of the party or is she positioning herself for a good post-government job?
Ha,adding insult to injury...
Liz Cheney’s Concession Speech May Have Violated Campaign Finance Rules
Howard: "Enjoy this feeling of vindication."
Note to self: Add "vindication" to list of words for which Howard does not know the definition.
Liz Cheney Invokes Lincoln and Grant in Impassioned Concession Speech" (NYT).
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'metaphorical' genuflection with kneepads a-la-Kamala
How much of the 29% that she got came from Democrats who switched parties (as she requested) to vote for her? That she made the request, and that the news talked about new Republican registrations, make the defeat look even worse.
Or put differently Cheney thinks the Wyoming voters are either stupid or evil.
Deplorables?
can she now run as D candidate?
Jefferson's Revenge: "Trump was a great President but has allowed himself to be made into the most divisive figure in recent US history."
Such a stupid comment that one doesnt know where to begin to address the layers of flawed premises underkying it.
Free that little girl you’re keeping in that deep pit in your basement, Howard. Do the right thing for once!
Self-dramatizing and self-aggrandizing. Ironically, by contrast, Trump seems modest and self-effacing.
Was that vitamin pill you took this morning a subtle shade of Red?
Eleanor said...
"This is how democracy works. The Republicans and the Republicans-for-a-day in Wyoming have used their votes to choose their Republican candidate in the November midterms..."
Was there crossover voting by (D) voters in an attempt to support her, or did they hope to promote someone who they considered unelectable? Wyoming's not a very populous state. It wouldn't take many swing voters to change the outcome of an election there.
"Trump was a great President but has allowed himself to be made into the most divisive figure in recent US history."
He was promoted by the Dems as a dirty trick in the Republican primaries, and it's been one Dem dirty trick after another ever. Whoever stands up to the Dems will immediately be portrayed as divisive.
"The D’s got control of every major institution incrementally. It took patience and winning small battles that accumulated over time. How else did red states like Georgia or my part of PA turn from red to blue? It may take the same strategy to get those institutions back."
It can't happen this way, because normal people don't eat, sleep, and breath politics for generations on end. The national government has to be restrained in power and shrunk so it no longer threatens the people and serves as a piggy bank for the grifters.
A presidential run can be a nice, cushy vacation. Joe Walsh and Bill Weld didn't think they would beat Trump, but they got to travel around and stay in fine hotels at somebody else's expense for a few months. There are always people who will pick up the tab. But I think her future will be in the media, with a think tank on the side, and an occasional university gig. Whatever Liz does, she's going to be comfortable.
Trump "could have won" too. Maybe he did win. Maybe he didn't. We don't really know. We don't know if he could have won or would have been defeated in a fully honest election (probably he did lose the popular vote, though, since he was underwater in the polls for most of his term, and COVID sealed the deal). For some reason, politicians and people in the public eye, have to either say that it was definitely stolen or absolutely the most honest election in history and all talk of fraud is a lie. They don't seem to have much tolerance for ambiguity.
Never trust a woman who changes her name from Elizabeth to Liz.
Imagine losing by some 37 points and thinking "Well, I think I've set the table for a Presidential run."
On the other hand, we currently have Joe Biden and Kamala Harris running the ship. Things can happen if we're not careful.
PS- anyone who tells you we're better off, and that they feel more secure today than when Trump was in office is either bullshitting you and themselves, or they're just from New York.
If she had what it takes, she would announce her candidacy for POTUS today.
Welp, I reckon it's back to being Hitler again for old Dick Cheney.
or is she positioning herself for a good post-government job?
She'll be making the talk show rounds for sure, if they pay her. Maybe she can become a fixture on The View. If they pay her.
We should be praising Liz Cheney, and encouraging all who run for public office to follow her example.
Tell us who you honestly are, and what you will actually do or try to do in office, and then stand for election.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Trying to remember who was more washed up in 1859, Lincoln or Grant.
Democrats for the Cheney family!
Kruiser:
"Cheney’s Concession Speech Was a Mentally Ill Cry for Help.".. “The race was called for Hageman about 14 seconds after the polls closed. What followed were a few hours of every leftist media outlet in America making Cheney out to be the bravest American woman since Rosa Parks.”
Totally Deranged. I get that people do not like Trump. He is a loud mouthed, coarse, vindictive, and a braggard. But a threat to democracy in the US? Bull crap!!!! He is only a threat to the elite that think they know better than the people in WY.
I absolutely think Trump would have won the last election, if only legal votes were counted and if the COVID mail rules were not used. There are thousands of people that think like Cheney about Trump and see him as the end of democracy - you think they would not cheat to stop him if they think that way? Trump has a right to say the election was unfair and flawed just like Clinton did in 2016.
Just look at how Cheney comprised herself by participating the Jan 6 hearings. A one side kangaroo court that was not about truth but about hurting Trump. If she had an ounce of integrity, she would have never joined the left in that bit of theater. It one thing not support the election claim of Trump and then claim he tried to start an insurrection.
Cheney seems to think the hicks in Wy need a elite and enlightened outsider to represent them? She is really deranged in two aspects. First in the relation to Trump and second in thinking the the left will still fawn over her now she has lost. She would get almost zero votes from Ds in any election.
The Wicked Hillary of the West
Liz Cheney's pronouns are DONE/GONE!!! (stolen from a post on GAB)
Recall when daddy Dick was, according to the left, the Darth Vader of politics. Hardball host Chris Matthews always referred to him as Dick "Cheeney". Still makes me laugh.
Trump as General Grant would be a more accurate Civil War analogy, Liz. Flawed, but knows who the enemy is, and knows the best approach is to go straight at them.
And as President too. Grant was an outsider hated by the political class, which regularly (with the help of the media) slandered him, while in reality he was one of our greatest presidents.
She SHOULD run for POTUS. I suspect she will Garner no delegates.
Based on recent history she will be the VP pick.
Read this GREAT article from The Conservative Treehouse. THIS is the truth that a lot of Americans have yet to grasp. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/16/dear-professionally-republican/?u
Holy GOD! you Can NOT make this stuff up!
After landslide primary defeat, Liz Cheney announces new anti-Trump group, says she's 'thinking about' WH bid
When asked by Savannah Guthrie if Cheney had lost sight of the issues her constituents in Wyoming cared about, Cheney said that "as a nation, you don't get the opportunity to debate and discuss any other issue"
To that end, Cheney made it clear that she will continue with her sole focus.
"I will do whatever it takes to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office," she stated
when asked about her Total Lack of Support, Lizard said: "Well, my Dad says i'm Cool!"
Perhaps Biden could broaden his base by reaching out to Cheney and offering her a cabinet position. She could serve a useful purpose in the Health Department. Who better to insure that a safe, cheap abortion is available to all Americans regardless of race, religion, or sex. I think even some Trumpards might be in favor of such an appointment.
Perhaps Biden could broaden his base by reaching out to Cheney and offering her a cabinet position. She could serve a useful purpose in the Health Department. Who better to insure that a safe, cheap abortion is available to all Americans regardless of race, religion, or sex. I think even some Trumpards might be in favor of such an appointment.
Perhaps Biden could broaden his base by reaching out to Cheney and offering her a cabinet position. She could serve a useful purpose in the Health Department. Who better to insure that a safe, cheap abortion is available to all Americans regardless of race, religion, or sex. I think even some Trumpards might be in favor of such an appointment.....I think Google is eating my statement. Apologies if this is double posted.
"Self-dramatizing and self-aggrandizing"
True. As usual, we are being patronized by our inferiors. But the key thing is, Cheney et al. don't give a damn. They wallow in their self-satisfaction.
As long as nice women outside Wyoming keep voting (D) they will keep at it.
So wait, Liz Cheney gave a speech saying she was an unconvincing politician who couldn't convey to her constituents the validity of her views and therefore she comfortably lost? But that despite that, she believes this is just a step on the road to greatness for her?
I would vote against her for her concession speech alone.
I've worked in DC, and it fascinated me to see the extent to which it constituted an enclosed mental space, profoundly at odds with the values and beliefs of the rest of the nation. Within the bubble,what Liz is doing and saying makes good sense. Is there a way to pop the bubble without seriously hurting the country? I hope so. I'm not sure.
Cheney now needs to resign. The people have spoken. They don't want her next year. They don't want her now.
She needs to resign today. In staying, she is not a representative; she is a usurper.
readering said...
Trying to remember who was more washed up in 1859, Lincoln or Grant.
Assuming this is an honest question, Grant had resigned from the Army in 1854, moved back to the Midwest, and spent several years trying to make a go of farming by renting land from his father-in-law near St Louis. By 1860 he gave up his farming attempts, moved back to Galena IL, and was working in his father's business. He was marginally more successful at this and managed to pay off his prior debts.
By contrast, Lincoln had become a successful lawyer in Springfield IL, litigating cases for the Illinois Central Railroad among other clients, overcoming the privations of his childhood and young adult years.
It should be noted that Liz isn't comparing herself to Grant in 1859 or even 1860 but Grant by the summer of 1864 when he was close to the peak of his power as a Union General.
All she had to do was to grumble a bit about Trump and just leave it go. She'd indeed have been re-elected.
By joining Pelosi she became a tool of Pelosi. Not a lot of demand for such among Wyoming Republicans.
Cannot believe the arrogance of this woman. If not for her daddy, we would not be talking about her. She seems obsessed with Trump and that’s her reason for pursuing higher office? There must be some personal bad blood between her family and Trump.
Koot Katmandu said...
Totally Deranged. I get that people do not like Trump. He is a loud mouthed, coarse, vindictive, and a braggard.
Sure you're not talking about LBJ?
How often is an incumbent this hated? She didn't even gather 30% of the vote, and was behind the winner by nearly 40 points. And was after she mailed out a bunch of absentee ballot requests to Democrat voters (it's an open primary), pre-addressed to the relevant county officials, with 'OFFICIAL ELECTION DOCUMENT ENCLOSED' emblazoned across the front, and posted detailed instructions on how to vote for her across party lines to 'get Trump'. When you look at the last primary voting numbers, it looks like she picked up over 10K crossover votes, but her results still stunk.
Loser, Capital "L".
If Romney had any guts, he would follow Lizzie Borden's lead, denounce Trump and call for his head ala Michael Hayden.
JAORE: "She SHOULD run for POTUS. I suspect she will Garner no delegates."
Jeb desperately wants Abraham Cheney to run for President so that she becomes the new record holder for having spent the most cash in a Presidential primary with the fewest delegates to show for it.
In the same way that Biden's Earpiece has saved Carter from being the worst economic failure and foreign policy moron president of all time.
The only really funny thing I saw about last night's results was on NPR's election coverage website.
Big picture of a Very Earnest Liz Cheney at the top of the page. Further in, it showed all of the races, candidates and their numbers, counties reporting etc., complete with the colored bar graphs. But it only showed a placeholder for the House race, at the very bottom. No candidates or anything. And then about an hour after the polls closed, the placeholder had a note in small print added to it, stating the the winner was Harriet Hageman. No numbers shown.
You can still see it today down there at the bottom, except now they have finally relented and put in the details section at the top of the page. It wasn't there last night.
The Germans thought they were saving the world from the Jews.
Diversity, Inequity, and Exclusion [DIE], was a policy (i.e. color judgment, class-based bigotry) and wicked solution (e.g. final solution) to relieve the burden of what the Nazis labeled as "Jew privilege".
She fancies herself a General Grant but she’s really more of a General Custer.
Custer was canceled in a probable setup. Liz is no Custer.
“Donald Trump has now ended the Cheney, Bush, and Clinton political dynasties.” (Laura Loomer, congressional candidate, FL)
She will do "whatever it takes to prevent Trump from returning to office." This is supposedly based on Trump "lying about the 2020 election".
Which of course, makes zero sense. Trump has valid reasons for thinking the election was stolen. And if he's wrong, so what? If Cheney actually cared about PUBLIC POLICY and WYOMING, she would've moved on.
But Liz is just following in her father's footsteps. And the Bush family footsteps. Liars all. She lied about supporting Trump in 2018 and 2020. She lied about pushing Conservative policies, and caring about the people of Wyoming.
She made it clear her NO. 1 priority was destroying the Republican ex-POTUS, the defacto leader of the Republican party because she and her father had some weird personal dislike of him. She has nothing but contempt for the conservatives who put her into office, she's more comforatable with Nancy Pelosi.
Bush II got reelected by a slim margin and thought this meant he could impose "Democracy" on the whole world, push through Amnesty, trash social security, and put his legal secretary Miers on the SCOTUS. Egomania on stilts. Cheney is a mediocre 3 term congressman who thinks she's MLK, Lincoln and Grant all rolled into one. Truly amazing.
I"m constantly astounded how often Republican politicans get elected by lying to their voters about what they believe in. And they feel no shame about it. Its always their Person above Country AND party.
BTW, the only reason Liz Cheney got to be a congressman and rose to No. 3 in the House leadership is her father is Dick Cheney. that's it.
She's not a good speaker. She's not charsimatic. She's not particularly intelligent. Nothing about her is exceptional. If she hadn't gone up against Trump, we wouldn't be discussing her.
From The Lady Cheney's Wiki page:
"Cheney was sworn into office on January 3, 2017. Donald Trump became president that same month, and an analysis by FiveThirtyEight found Cheney supported Trump's position in 92.9% of House votes.[61]
In May 2019, Cheney said that Peter Strzok and another FBI agent who sent personal text messages in which they disparaged various politicians (including Trump) sounded as if they were planning a "coup" and may be guilty of "treason".
Someone at Wiki has been asleep at the switch.
It was inevitable after Abraham Cheney's total and complete defeat last night in WY at the hands of the republican voters she despises and wishes to ship off to more endless wars so that she can continually personally profit from their suffering and sacrifice, that she would show her true cards not as a NeverTrumper, but what she really is and what all of NeverTrump is and always has been in their role of the controlled opposition for their democratical allies: NeverRepublican/NeverConservative.
No. I will not be diagramming that sentence so you pedantic pettifoggers can push right off.
n.n said...
Custer was canceled in a probable setup. Liz is no Custer.
What new historical knowledge to you have to make this claim about Custer? I notice you use the word "probable" for plausible deniability in your claim. Custer received his comeuppance because of his own arrogance, stupidity, and sick cruelty. He also thought of himself bigger than he actually was. He walked into a trap. What is your "setup" claim other than that??
I realize Liz is the new RINO hero du jour for the left. Liz tried running roughshod over the people of Wyoming. They scalped her like Custer did the Native Americans. Seems a somewhat fitting analogy.
Cheney vows recount. She claims voting irregularities in Lost Springs, Wyoming (pop. 6).
If Liz Cheney and some other RINO try and run a spoiler ticket, where do they siphon off votes?
Are they picturing a Bull Moose run (Teddy Roosevelt) that ended up getting Wilson Elected? That doesn't fit. Are they picturing a Ross Perot run that got Clinton elected? That doesn't fit either. Perhaps a Ralph Nader run that took votes from Al Gore?
How big is the Joe Scarborough, Charlie Sykes, Bill Kristol, Lincoln Project constituency?
I realize Trump or DeSantis will have to overcome the baked in swing state voter fraud... but who votes for Liz??? Establishment GOP voters that want to see the Dems control the White House? Cross over Democrats? She's going to run on a platform that is simply "I'm here to play spoiler"?
Her current, temporary, fawning admiration is coming from liberal Democrats.
I think this is just her way of staying on TV and getting softly licked by Savannah Guthrie.
Randomizer said...
Liz Cheney seems delusional. 29% to 66% isn't even close. Her job is to represent the citizens of Wyoming, but she is a major player opposing the views of her constituents.
I saw that speech and she does seem mentally ill.
One can see the Wyoming county breakdown map here. Liz carried only two counties — one of which (Teton County) contains Jackson Hole. I doubt that (heretofore) there have been all that many Republicans there.
Grant and Lincolon were both racists. SO, I guess that means CHeney is a racist too.
Don't feel sorry for Liz Cheney. According to press reports:
1) Liz Cheney's net worth increased from $7 million to $44 million during her 5 years in Congress.
2) She has a $7.5 million campaign slush fund left over. She can use that for her 2024 POTUS campaign or just pocket it.
Her attacks on Trump were not only COURAGEOUS, they were highly lucrative. She's rich. Just like the Lincoln Project guys.
Things that make you go HMMMMMM....
WHO was paying her, for WHAT???
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/dont-feel-sorry-liz-cheney-increased-wealth-36-million-serving-just-6-5-years-congress/
rejajm writes, "She fancies herself a General Grant but she’s really more of a General Custer."
Nah, more like General Disarray.
"Trump was a great President but has allowed himself to be made into the most divisive figure in recent US history."
Yeah, the stupid bastard allowed himself to be impeached twice and have his home raided by the FBI, when he could have just had the 101st Airborne occupy the Capitol and throw the stinking Dems into an open-air stockade in Northern Virginia.
She could have won had she insisted on being even-handed with witnesses on the 1/6 committee.
Instead, she let her hatred of Trump blind her.
Ahab was less obsessed with the whale than she was with The Donald.
That's why she lost.
President? Oh my...maybe president of her condo board?
She and her war-criminal father can now commiserate on their WY ranch.
Oh, wait, she only spends a few hours in WY each year...
Readering writes, "Yeah, looking back to Trump's concession speech in contrast to Cheney's...."
Yes, there are many stark contrasts, one is sincere, the other is sincerely deranged.
Knowning your bent, Readering, we assume you meant this as a derogatory against Trump, but you should have used compare if those speeches were comparable.
Yes, yes, irony, bless your little heart, but doing irony requires rhetorical skills you haven't yet acquired.
Try again when you're all grown up.
'Never trust a woman who changes her name from Elizabeth to Liz.'
Her sister's name is Lez...
I don't know whether or not the election was stolen from Trump. I suspect it was and I certainly acknowledge that there was evidence to that effect.
Liz Cheney doesn't know whether or not the election was stolen. Either she doesn't know she doesn't know or she hates Trump so much she doesn't care. The former demonstrates a remarkable lack of self awareness. The latter demonstrates an evil streak. Either disqualifies her from serving in Congress as a Republican. If she were a Democrat, she'd be home free.
"She lied about supporting Trump in 2018 and 2020. She lied about pushing Conservative policies, and caring about the people of Wyoming." She voted with Trump 93 percent of the time, and her voting record is solidly conservative--or what used to be conservative. I rarely hear "new" conservatives talk about tax policy, economic policy, or foreign policy. It's all culture war stuff, with occasional immigration talk thrown in.
Cunt majora
Arrogant, self-serving bitch. And that was before she got infected with TDS.
Good riddance.
People need to stop saying she supported Trump 93%. We don't know what that analysis is based on. And it does NOT say anything about the 7% of final bills she didn't support Trump were.
Further, how she votes on FINAL BILLS isn't the whole story. What was she doing in Committeee? What was she doing behind the scenes? What admnendments was she offering? What was she saying to Press about TRump and conservatism? As the 3rd in the house leadership, what was she doing in terms of policy?
She voted against impeachment in 2020, knowing full well her vote was irrelevant, and she was up for re-election. After her election, she gave the D's bi-partisan support for the 2nd impechment in 2021, AND then was only one of two R's to break ranks and join the J6 committee. SHe was also AGAINST whipping members during the impeachment. She voted for the Gun control bill.
Spending 1.5 years trying to destroy the Republican ex-POTUS, showed she cared ZIP about Wyoming and conservatism. She's simply a LIAR. She needs to become a Democrat and turn honest.
"Trump was a great President but has allowed himself to be made into the most divisive figure in recent US history."
Let's give credit where it is due. Trump is divisive BECAUSE he was successful in the face of Democrat calumny and sedition.
He is demonized because he is a Republican and Democrats are unprincled scum elected by Marxists and morons. Remember ChimpyBushHitler?
"But it would have required that I go along with President Trump’s lie about the 2020 election"
Futon Co GA Democrat vote counters announced they were no longer counting votes on election night, kicked out all the press and poll workers, and then immediately went back to "counting votes".
I watched the video of them doing this on 60 Minutes
Before they started "counting" again, Trump was winning the State.
After they were done "counting votes" with no outside control of their actions, Trump was losing.
You would have to be a hard core Democrat partisan, or a complete moron, to trust ANYTHING they did after they kicked out the press and poll watchers.
No, you can't hand count the ballots that they had sole access to and recover from any fraud they committed. Did they mark up votes? Did they bring in prepared ballots and add a bunch of claimed voters for them?
We don't know
Which is why no honest vote counters would ever do what they did.
At the point where that was treated as no big deal, it was impossible to believe that the Biden victory claims were honest.
Because if something that blatant was just shrugged at, that indicates that their was no concern, at any level, with having an honest election
And once you've established that, only a moron would believe the result actually was honest.
So Liz was flat out lying every time she accused Trump of lying.
Good riddance to bad rubbish
I rarely hear "new" conservatives talk about tax policy, economic policy, or foreign policy. It's all culture war stuff, with occasional immigration talk thrown in.
I guess you don't hear anything but Democrats. Oil pipelines, excessive spending on Democrat supporters, drilling permits, climate boondoggles, federalizing voting rules, Getting involved in Ukraine when there was no vital interest (except Hunter Biden's graft) to the US. None of that interests you. Draining the National oil Reserve and selling it to China is another nonissue to you.
I have been thinking about this all day, trying to figure out what could make Cheney think she has any kind of chance at a run for president. I still think she is delusional, but there still has to be some kind of grounded rationale behind her actions. The only thing I can come up with is that she is essentially trading on insider information from the January 6th Committee. She knows that the DOJ is going to indict Trump, and thus she believes that when the 2024 primary happens, Trump will be off the board. She is betting that her only opposition will be Ron DeSantis, which is why she is already on the record going on the attack against DeSantis.
Guitar Joe: "I rarely hear "new" conservatives talk about tax policy, economic policy, or foreign policy. It's all culture war stuff, with occasional immigration talk thrown in."
Emphasis by conservatives may vary according to threats presented by Democrats and their allies the Marxist left. It is a mistake to believe the leftmedia representation about what conservatives believe. CPAC is the best source for that information at conservative.org, "What We Believe."
Anti-Constitutional behavior by Democrats and their consorts, including attacks on the First and Second Amendments and federalism may distract us from economic issues, because constitutionalism is the heart of American conservatism. Similarly, election integrity can no longer be taken for granted by conservatives. It's absence threatens the Constitutional Republic. It is of course of concern to all except Democrats.
You may be confused between Christian beliefs and conservative beliefs because the leftmediaswine would have it so. Not all conservatives are Christians, but their beliefs need not be mutually exclusive. For example, the anti-Christian activities of the Democrats threaten not only the faith, but the First Amendment.
It is also evident that virtually all conservatives oppose the Biden/Manchin boondoggle.
Liz carried only two counties — one of which (Teton County) contains Jackson Hole. I doubt that (heretofore) there have been all that many Republicans there.
It's trended roughly 55-45 Democratic recently.
I assume Cheney is considering running for president so she can share primary debate stages with 45 as a candidate. Interesting to see where that goes. Maybe she has beefs with some other likelies to.
Ah Ms. Cheney--often wrong, but never in doubt of her own purity, self righteousness, right to live amongst the anointed etc.
She mentions an interesting point in history when she refers to the Orange Plank Road. The Army of Northern Virginia and the Army of the Potomac (under Grant for the first time) had bloodied each other a bit in the initial days of the Battle of the Wilderness.
The Union troops wondered, "What would Grant do?" Would he skedaddle back to Washington D.C. and safety--as all former heads of the Army of the Potomac had done?
Nope, Grant would press on towards Richmond (with a little sideshifting along the way). But the Army of the Potomac had finally joined battle with the Army of Northern Virginia to stay. There would be no turning back; Grant would get the job done.
Now if Liz (and the Schiff Nadler Pelosi Schumer "Squad" axis) want to wrap themselves in the cloak of a Civil War battle, may I suggest that they emulate John Bell Hood and the Battle of Franklin. Hood managed to destroy his Army of Tennessee in the battle. Fourteen of 15 confederate generals became casualties--with five of them killed and one captured--and the rest injured, and no less than 55 regimental commanders were casualties.
Hood managed to destroy the Confederacy's second largest army--only Lee's was larger. So Liz --and Nancy--and Bugeyes and Fat Jer--and Chuckles--wrap yourself in Hood's cloak--and charge. I think a combination of the January 6 effort and the Mar A Lago raid is getting the Dim party closer to Franklin--if you want to play Civil War battle history.
"You don't have Nixon to kick around any more, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference." -- Richard Nixon, 1962, after his loss to Pat Brown for governor of California.
--> Just change "you won't have Nixon" to "you won't have Cheney"? 2022, 1962, what's old is new again (and the grapes are just as sour). Same drama, different face.
(Then again Nixon did get elected president after having seemingly been shot down politically for the last time.)
If Cheney runs for president, I hope she picks Adam Kinzinger as her VP and they run as independents. Of course they wouldn’t win, but they could take enough votes from Trump to make him lose in an even bigger way than he did in 2020.
I suspect Russian collusion...
Oh shit!
Liz was fired from the Jan 6 Show
Blogger Readering said...
I assume Cheney is considering running for president so she can share primary debate stages with 45 as a candidate. Interesting to see where that goes. Maybe she has beefs with some other likelies to.
That would be fun but I still think she has mental problems. Wyoming must have enjoyed her assertion that she has more important concerns. I'm sure she has as that $55 million didn't just fall off a tree.
God of the Sea People said...
I have been thinking about this all day, trying to figure out what could make Cheney think she has any kind of chance at a run for president. I still think she is delusional, but there still has to be some kind of grounded rationale behind her actions
Sure there is: she can grift off of Democrat donors in order to build an organization whose sole purpose is to stroke her ego, paid for by other people.
Her net worth is apparently $44 million, having gone up $37 million in her time in office.
But why should she spend that on toadies when she can get other people to fund them
Inga said...
If Cheney runs for president, I hope she picks Adam Kinzinger as her VP and they run as independents. Of course they wouldn’t win, but they could take enough votes from Trump to make him lose in an even bigger way than he did in 2020.
Oh Inga, you're so cute
Stupid, but cute
Cheney won't steal a single vote from Trump, or DeSantis. Her total vote pool comes from people who would otherwise vote for the Democrat
Inga said If Cheney runs for president, I hope she picks Adam Kinzinger as her VP and they run as independents
Two white people on the ticket? What are you smoking?
Blogger Inga said...
If Cheney runs for president, I hope she picks Adam Kinzinger as her VP and they run as independents. Of course they wouldn’t win, but they could take enough votes from Trump to make him lose in an even bigger way than he did in 2020.
I hope she does, too. Unless they have a mail-in ballot printer, I doubt they can best Biden and Zuckerberg.
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