Althouse: Sunrise — 7:29, 7:33.

March 21, 2022

Sunrise — 7:29, 7:33.

You can talk about anything you like in the comments.

34 comments:

Bender said...: The forced deportation of tens of thousands of Ukrainians into Russian gulags, concentration camps and prison camps with forced labor, has begun.; 3/21/22, 7:41 PM
TickTock said...: If the US wants to end this, it needs to give Putin a way out. In the Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy agreed to withdraw US missiles in Turkey, giving Putin a win that in the long run cost us little. I think the Biden administration may be so enamored of their moral superiority that they want to force Putin into oblivion at the cost of every last Ukrainian.
Maybe they can destroy him. I just wish I had even a shred of confidence in their judgment and capabilities.; 3/21/22, 8:04 PM
Josephbleau said...: So the number of people who are supposed to have to move away from the beach over the next 50 years due to global warming have been killed or deported from Ukraine, because the US needed to stop pumping oil to stop global warming. All the people who will have starved in the next 50 years due to global warming famine, will starve next year when food is unavailable for them because Ukrainian wheat and Russian fertilizer won’t be available. Good job geniuses. This has to be planned, it is too stupid to be random.; 3/21/22, 8:07 PM
tim in vermont said...: "The forced deportation of tens of thousands of Ukrainians into Russian gulags, concentration camps and prison camps with forced labor, has begun."

Or... or they are fleeing to Russia because the Ukrainian Army has been waging war on them for eight years, which you would know, if you had been following this story for longer than a month.

I suppose it's possible that it's true, it just doesn't seem likely, and the Ukrainians have been making outrageous claims throughout the war that seem always to fall apart within hours.; 3/21/22, 8:11 PM
farmgirl said...: A different part of the lake?; 3/21/22, 8:20 PM
Rory said...: What's the best website to follow the military posture of the war?; 3/21/22, 8:32 PM
Howard said...: That's just what Biden Regime wants you to believe, Bender. They are just crisis extras. Also, the threats to Poland by Medvedev are more NATO aggression against the lawful and natural resurgence of Iron Curtain. Nice to see Vlads mouthpiece making good use of Fox News/MAGA anti-American talking points. Sending Poland Abrams tanks in response is an act of war.; 3/21/22, 8:36 PM
n.n said...: The forced deportation of tens of thousands... gulags, concentration camps and prison camps with forced labor

China? Or the Biden/Maidan/Slavic Spring? 32... 33 trimesters, Harris promises of NATO expansion, illicit operation of Wuhan-style labs, disenfranchisement through coups without borders, denial of essential services, and assaults on Ukrainians by a military and paramilitary Kiev-aligned axis.; 3/21/22, 8:43 PM
n.n said...: or they are fleeing to Russia because the Ukrainian Army has been waging war on them for eight years

Yes, not merely plausible, but probable. Native Ukrainians, including People of Jewish, Russian, Gypsy, etc. identity sought relief from the Biden/Maidan/Slavic Spring, away from the illegitimate, hostile government in Kiev, in Crimea, Donbass, and other relatively organized sanctuaries that resisted their progress over 32... 33 trimesters. Just another war in the Obama/Clinton Spring series of catastrophic Choices and world war (from Tripoli to Kiev and other places he couldn't visit).; 3/21/22, 8:49 PM
n.n said...: the Biden administration may be so enamored of their moral superiority

The Biden administration needs to be granted legal, if not moral, indemnity for staging and sustaining the Slavic Spring over 8 years... 32... 33 trimesters. Biden needs to lose is Pro-Choice "ethical" religion, and reach a consensus to grant relief to Ukrainians who were disenfranchised, denied essential services, and attacked over that Spring period, either open or close their Wuhan-style labs, and withdraw Harris's speech for NATO expansion. This war has progressed too long and was a purely elective Choice.; 3/21/22, 8:58 PM
Bender said...: The purpose of the West was always to make sure that #Russia does not have #Ukraine as a friend. This concept is very deeply rooted in the minds of American policymakers, and it will take time to get rid of these negative legacies.
--Foreign Minister Lavrov

https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1505927001659645960; 3/21/22, 9:34 PM
Heartless Aztec said...: State Parks as opposed to National Parks. Mt Cheaha in the mountains of Alabama are a beautiful time capsule of a Civilian Conservation Corp at tneir best circa 1938. Great camping at altitude in a beautiful lightly populated and unspoiled area of the United States.; 3/21/22, 9:37 PM
WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...: Why are Hillary and Romney coming after Tulsi?

run Howie run - and hide eeeek! It's Fox news!; 3/21/22, 9:39 PM
Richard Dillman said...: For detailed updates on the progress of the war check out the website of the Institute for the Study of War. They regularly update their assessments of the war’s development with hard data. Its the most unbiased site I have seen.; 3/21/22, 9:42 PM
stunned said...: Blogger Bender said...
The forced deportation of tens of thousands of Ukrainians into Russian gulags, concentration camps and prison camps with forced labor, has begun.

Can people be brainwashed by propaganda?

P. S. https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/what-to-expect-psychiatry-appointment; 3/21/22, 10:05 PM
Mike of Snoqualmie said...: What's the best website to follow the military posture of the war?

The Institute for the Study of War has a concise explanation of what happens each day. The email me a summary every afternoon. They also include maps of what's going on.; 3/21/22, 10:29 PM
Rt41Rebel said...: Howard, reflecting on motivations, outcomes, failure modes, preconditions, and causations is not anti-American. Unless you're in favor of an American dystopia that requires groupthink at all times. I bet you were a hoot in the 60s.; 3/21/22, 10:38 PM
Iman said...: Damn… Putin’s been around a long time, tick tock.; 3/21/22, 11:30 PM
gadfly said...: TickTock said...
If the US wants to end this, it needs to give Putin a way out. In the Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy agreed to withdraw US missiles in Turkey, giving Putin a win that in the long run cost us little.

Kennedy vs Khrushchev was a hotspot in a long cold war called a missile scare countered by JFK using a naval blockade to get Soviet nuke-tipped missiles and Soviet IL-28 bombers out of Cuba in exchange for the US removal of outmoded Jupiter missiles from Turkey. We gave and we got the foreign nukes out of our backyard. Perhaps this is the only war that we have won since WWII.

Now we are counting the dollars spent in staying in an Afghanistan non-war for more than 20 years, having virtually no casualties. Biden feels badly but gets in the way of sending anti-aircraft and fighter planes to the Ukrainians while deaths climb. Meanwhile Patriot and Iron Dome batteries are being withheld by the US and Israel, all this I suppose because they don't have Cyrillic writing on them.; 3/22/22, 12:04 AM
TickTock said...: Rory, try understandingwar.org. Can't vouch for how much is true, but no source is totally free from propaganda.

Tim, re outrageous claims. The Telegraph fas an article suggesting Russian confirmation of over 9k dead Russian soldiers. Telegraph.co.uk; 3/22/22, 12:23 AM
Owen said...: Richard Dillman @ 9:42: Agree about Institute For The Study Of War. They seem to be straight shooters and very well informed, citing sources and/or declaring that they can’t confirm a claim. Daily updates: clear, concise, complete. And great maps.; 3/22/22, 5:14 AM
Christopher B said...: Meanwhile Patriot and Iron Dome batteries are being withheld by the US and Israel, all this I suppose because they don't have Cyrillic writing on them.

Quite a tell that you think this is intelligent snark.

The Ukrainians absolutely aren't getting Patriots or Iron Dome or F16s or F35s because it would take months if not years to get them up to speed on their operation, and they are likely incompatible with the existing Ukrainian air defense electronic environment. It's why the plan is/was to send them MANPADS and excess MiGs or S-300 AD systems from the former WarPac countries now in NATO, with those systems replaced by US equipment.; 3/22/22, 6:25 AM
gilbar said...: Christopher B said, about gladFry's 'observation'...
Meanwhile Patriot and Iron Dome batteries are being withheld by the US and Israel, all this I suppose because they don't have Cyrillic writing on them.

Quite a tell that you think this is intelligent snark.

The thing is; gladFry is NOT what one would call intelligent.
Intellectually Challenged is the phrase; or, as we used to call it: Mentally Stupid; 3/22/22, 6:35 AM
Mr. Majestyk said...: I have never understood why every comment by n.n. seems to include the word "trimesters."
I find that it distracts me from whatever point he/she is trying to make.; 3/22/22, 6:44 AM
tim in vermont said...: "The Telegraph fas an article suggesting Russian confirmation of over 9k dead Russian soldiers."

Probably true. How many civilians were killed by Ukrainians since the "Revolution of Dignity" in the civil war the US ignited? Two months ago this was non-controversial to discuss. The US media calls them "separatists" because they rejected our coup.

Loose talk of genocide on US sponsored media in Ukraine after the Obama-Biden instigated coup there:
https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1501054499129110528

There are no good guys, no matter how much you want to believe there are.; 3/22/22, 7:17 AM
tim in vermont said...: Families fleeing US backed Ukrainian regime's attack on Donbass to Russia, Feb 18, just prior to the invasion, Feb 24.

https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1494761062272577540

If you like, I can show you video of McCain and Lindsey Graham telling the Nazis there that we would back them on "offense." This attack was likely one more attempt to force an attack by Russia.; 3/22/22, 7:23 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: Trump was quite astute... https://twitter.com/i/status/1504283406720454658; 3/22/22, 8:21 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: Lara hits hard...
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/03/21/lara-logan-goes-off-in-epic-rant-on-ukraine-citing-fake-ngos-vindman-hunter-biden-romneys-son-1215390/
Arab Spring sharpened her senses. A real Journalist.; 3/22/22, 8:32 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: Whataboutism?
https://www.historyguy.com/wars_of_africa_current.html
Lots to be said, nobody saying.; 3/22/22, 8:37 AM
Michael McNeil said...: Carried forward from the earlier Musk thread yesterday….

Ever hear of Thor? The weapons system, not the Norse God.

Short version: Titanium rods packaged in low earth orbit with a motor to bring them down, and a guidance package / communications package so you can send them at the right target.

Depending on the size and composition of the rods, you can use them to go after buildings, tanks, surface ships, bunkers, ammo dumps, fuel dumps, and nuclear missile launch sites.

Anywhere in the world, no matter how far behind the lines of combat

If I were Musk's evil advisor (I'm not cut out to be the good advisor), I'd be encouraging him to put some of those up with every launch

The so-called “Rods from God” that you're writing about are almost exclusively hype. Maybe they have a military “future” in the longer run (when launch capacities into near-earth orbit will be greater and costs lower — while the asteroid belt might serve as an effective construction site for such “rods” together with launch point(s) for targeting earth with rods which arrive with much higher velocity) — but not now. Let's consider the reasons how and why that is.

For one thing, these tungsten (not titanium) “Rods” of the kind envisioned and written about in typical laudatory articles regarding this topic (i.e., tungsten rods placed in orbit where they can be readily dropped onto targets on earth) are conventionally imagined to be manufactured cylinders made of dense tungsten metal (the element symbolized as ‘W’ possesses a standard density of 19.25 g/cm^3 — or more than 19x the density of water) — shaped into a dimension of 6.1 meters (20 ft) long vs. 15 cm (0.15 m, or 1 ft) in diameter — such a cylindrical tunsten rod masses 8.3 metric tons. Its considerable mass, indeed, is the reason why such rods strike as hard as they do (such as it is) when one impacts an earthly target at its Mach 10 (3.0 km/second, or 6,800 miles/hour) terminal velocity.

But could Musk conceivably (say) “put some of those [Rods] up with every launch” of SpaceX's Falcon 9?

Elon Musk tweeted only a few days ago that the March 19 Starlink launch was the heaviest payload SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket had ever put into orbit — at 16.25 metric tons. Well, even such a record-breaking payload for Falcon 9's as that wouldn't be able to hoist even two such “Rods” into low earth orbit (almost, but not quite). And if it tried, so much for SpaceX's regular satellite business that it needs and must carry up on these same launches!

(Even SpaceX's huge Falcon Heavy rocket — one of the largest rockets presently in existence — could only carry a handful of such Rods into orbit. Note that there have been only 3 Falcon Heavy launches thus far total.)

Beyond that, once in orbit, if you do drop such a Rod on some tempting target, contrary to media myth the results are far from “nuclear” in explosive yield. 8.3 tons arriving at a target on earth at the rods' Mach 10 terminal velocity yields a bang which is only in the “MOAB” (Mother Of All Bombs) large conventional-explosive bombs range.

So, no.; 3/22/22, 9:18 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: My fellow Americans ...
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/21/health-care-detained-illegal-aliens-costs-taxpayers-316m-millions-americans-uninsured/; 3/22/22, 9:29 AM
MadisonMan said...: I note that Twitter, having learned nothing from the Hunter Biden laptop story, has now suspended the Babylon Bee for mocking Rachel Levine.
I would applaud Rachel Levine for standing up to Twitter and saying that any Govt official who can't take a little mocking should resign, and that Twitter is being stupid. I'm not holding my breath however.; 3/22/22, 10:47 AM
TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed said...: One of the fundamental rules for preventing child abuse (sexual or otherwise) is to discourage the keeping of secrets. Youth protection training courses used by most organizations that serve kids are adamant that any adult encouraging kids to keep secrets is putting those kids at risk.

Apparently it's just fine if trans ideology-obsessed teachers do it.; 3/22/22, 10:49 AM
MadTownGuy said...: We receive emails from the ARC of Dane County as our Down syndrome daughter still lives there. Consider the claims made and the possibilities that people providing help could influence certain voting outcomes:

""Wisconsinites with disabilities will have a tougher time voting in April because of a recent state Supreme Court decision, and some say they won’t be able to vote at all."

"In a 4-3 ruling in February, the justices let a Waukesha County judge’s decision go into effect that says voters cannot give their absentee ballots to someone else to mail or hand over to election clerks for them."

"Barbara Beckert, the director of the Milwaukee office of Disability Rights Wisconsin, said she is puzzled by the court decision because provisions of the federal Voting Rights Act and Americans with Disabilities Act are meant to ensure people with disabilities can get the help they need to cast ballots."

Read the full article here.; 3/22/22, 11:33 AM