".... over the weekends to pay for sex..... But the folk tale has seemingly remained just that — a fish story. Back then, authorities said they had made no arrests on prostitution charges related to fishing houses.... [Hudson, Ohio mayor Craig] Shubert has previously made headlines for his controversial remarks. Last fall... Shubert criticized a book given to some high school seniors that he described as 'essentially … child pornography'...."
From "Ohio mayor lambasted for saying ice fishing would lead to prostitution: He ‘embarrasses our town with wild claims'" (WaPo).
Here's an article about Shubert's accusation about the high school book, which was "642 Things to Write About," a book of writing prompts for high school seniors that included "write a sex scene you wouldn't show your mom," and "rewrite the sex scene from above into one that you'd let your mom read." It does seem inaccurate to call that "essentially …child pornography." It's more an effort to entice teenagers to write erotica for their teachers.
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Ice fishing just keeps sounding better and better!
Gotta love the tags: "fish" and "pornography". But not "fish pornography," thank God ... I think we can all get behind banning that.
It does seem inaccurate to call that "essentially …child pornography."
yes, and no. IF a highschooler takes naked pix of herself, and posts them on the internet... She is Guilty of "child pornography"... If she (a 14 or 15 year old) writes stories about 'a sex scene' Many (Most? (ALL?) are going to write about underaged sex. Should that be considered "child pornography"? (your call) Is it? (HELL Yes!)
a book of writing prompts for high school seniors that included "write a sex scene you wouldn't show your mom,"
WTH? I would say any sex scene I wrote would be one I would not have shown Mom. I'm absolutely baffled that any teacher would think this is a good idea for an assignment. And hiding behind the excuse "I didn't realize it was in the book" is total BS.
Truck Stop Hookers deliver it both hot,
And cold. Right there on the ice.
"Hook the fish and me at the same time"
I don't know about you fellers, but I go ice fishing to get away from incessant demands for money and sex.
I think the ho's would charge double for sex in the fish houses I've been in.
There are better ways to teach kids about the perils of dangling participles and the proper use of exclamation marks...Nanookie of the North. That would explain the appeal of ice fishing.
Those old men in that movie would have been a lot less grumpy.
Isn't this the derivation for hooker?
The not unreasonable presumption is that an author will write a story based on knowledge they hold. A teenager (assuming here that really covers the early teen years before lawful consent) would likely write a story from a young childish interpretation of the scene. Even if a character in that scene might be adult and able to give consent, it is very likely one of the other characters would not be, making for the child pornography. And that’s before we consider a story written by a child might be used as a how to guide on what interests that child has in sex and what turns them on. Hyperbole may be at play but the lesson is still inappropriate.
Anyway, seems like this guy has a mind for sex and assumes other men are as desperate as him they’d go out to a frozen lake to have sex and pay for the experience. While I’d say the odds are there for a few similar men, 10,000 seems way high. I can imagine 10,000 fishermen, but they want to fish. If they wanted sex, they wouldn’t be at the lake fishing.
The real news is that a politician looks idiotic, the Washington Post writes an article without mentioning his party affiliation, and the guy is a Republican.
Probably a nice way to target students for grooming for the lgbt crowd as well.
This week LA Times published an editorial decrying the republished linking of Superbowl and human trafficking, repeated for SoCal this year. An urban legend says the paper.
If an adult coerces underaged youths to write pornography, they certainly are engaging in producing child pornography. The age of consent in Ohio is 16.
Teachers are required reporters of child sexual abuse.
Is giving an assignment coercion? How old are the students? Did any teacher assign and/or read the porn he assigned? If so, did he or she grade it? There are also laws about coerced sexual performance.
Even if this was in a blended high school/college textbook, why would anyone over the age of 16 be coerced into writing porn in class?
And setting all that aside, shouldn't they be teaching something other than porn? The school board chose and defended the textbook. That are also required reporters.
The newspaper article entirely fails to discuss any of this. What garbage reporting.
No politician has made that kind of anti ice fishing declaration in my local jurisdiction.
Yet. I'm in Florida, but anything is possible with politicians.
On some Minnesota lakes, village sized communities of ice houses of all sizes appear on the ice complete with plowed roads and small restaurants. In forty two years of living here, I have never heard of ice shack prostitution. It seems like a frozen, rural legend. Another
stereotype of ice fishermen.
The shrinkage factor alone makes me doubt the fish story.
Garrison Keillor never mentioned ice whores.
Ice Road *uckers
Here's my attempt at the sex scene writing exercise, thou as I tell my children, "I studied computer science so that I did not have any writing assignments."
Scene1:
FUCK YOU
Scene2:
FUCK YOU
Those shanties are more that 4walls and a hole in the ice, these days. I’d forgotten the tales- but, I bet there’s a lot of stuff that goes down in the dark of night that we don’t know about. It’s a lot like deer camp- or snowmobiling in Canada. I’m thankful we’re tied down to the rigors and responsibilities of farming… no time for straying!
This would make a great reality show like Ice Road Truckers.
Possible show titles:
Ice House Fuckers
Bundled Up and Afraid
Not Exactly Alone
My 60 Lb Test Life
Pike Tank
Mille Lac's Got Talent
Fish Eye For the Sporting Guy
Keeping up with the Iversons
Rup Johnson's Auger Race
Hang On, I Got Something
Give a girl a fish, you feed her for a day.
Give a girl a hundred, you feed he for like, a week.
I would add that it is always sexual harassment to subject any student to the demand that they write pornography. I doubt there is a high school or college in the country without rules applying to employees about such behavior, rules arising from the feminist movement.
It's interesting that the textbook is implicitly grooming students to practice concealing their classwork from their mothers as well.
I've taught enough composition classes and poetry workshops to come across quite a few entirely unsolicited pornographic writings in response to class assignments. My sole response was "less is more" and an offer to revise the grade if the student memorized or wrote about a Donne sonnet. I was surprised by a few excellent recitations. That's useful teaching and rarely done anymore.
Sex in ice fishing huts is beyond my ken, though I did know a girl from Duluth. But I suspect it's far more hygenic than sex on a beach.
It either colder than a witches tit or colder than a well diggers ass in the Yukon.
You know trucker whores are about if you spot a vintage Cutlass Supreme sporting a long CB whip antenna with a coil.
"Nanookie of the North."
In the real 'Nanook of the North" with Peter Sellers, the Esquimaugh practiced the strange custom of Napula, where if you were a guest you got to sleep with the host's wife. I guess that calmed things down a bit. But they are not talking about key parties on the ice in Minnesota, just commercial activity. In my experience everyone would be too drunk to care. But I bet it happens now and again.
The real news is that a politician looks idiotic, the Washington Post writes an article without mentioning his party affiliation, and the guy is a Republican.
You can’t imagine Althouse would link to an article about a politician being stupid, and that politician turns out to be a Democrat, do you?
“Give a girl a fish, you feed her for a day.
Give a girl a hundred, you feed he for like, a week.”
That is gold, that’s so funny! Oh, shit!
Sex in ice fishing huts is beyond my ken, though I did know a girl from Duluth.
There was a girl from Duluth …
In rural Minnesota, it is widely understood that men retreat to their ice shacks and Ice Castles to avoid women ( e.g . the wife). Another reason is male bonding accompanied by beer and hard liquor. The sport is not for wine sippers.
In rural Minnesota, it is widely understood that men retreat to their ice shacks and Ice Castles to avoid women ( e.g . the wife). Another reason is male bonding accompanied by beer and hard liquor. The sport is not for wine sippers.
My comment at 6:46 inspired me to do some research:
There once was a girl from Duluth,
Who claimed she was telling the truth.
She said she was thirty,
And dressed very flirty,
But she looked rather long in the tooth.
There was an old maid from Duluth
Who wept when she thought of her youth
Of all the missed chances
At her school dances
And once in a telephone booth.
I guess it's ok for Howie to plug his business here.
Maybe they're mermaids ...
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