April 3, 2021

Sunrise — 6:38, 6:41.

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85 comments:

Joe Smith said...

Sunny side up : )

Looks like a Japanese egg yolk (they are orange, not yellow).

Lawrence Person said...

Enjoy an extra-late Friday LinkSwarm.

Achilles said...

All of the Giant Corporations are going to war against...

Georgia.

Over voter ID.

And they still have their products made in concentration camps with slave labor in China. And they sell products in China.

This is how the Nazi party took over Germany.

The Biden Regime is just not good. Only terrible people support it.

Browndog said...

This is how it's done, folks. This is why democrats always win, republicans always lose.

Democrats demanded MLB ban the All-Star game in Georgia. New York has more stringent voting laws than Georgia, even after the new so-called 'reform'.

Chuck Schumer
@SenSchumer

Racist voter suppression laws are now hurting Georgia's voters AND its economy.

Georgia Republicans should be ashamed.

We would welcome @MLB
to come to come play the All-Star Game in New York where we are working to make it easier, not harder, to vote.

10:57 AM · Apr 3, 2021

rcocean said...

Trump has called for a boycott of MLB. You see why Twitter and facebook have banned him. Imagine the impact he'd be having if his tweets and interviews were more widely known.

narciso said...


Meanwhile


https://asiatimes.com/2021/04/biden-abandons-friend-in-need-in-saudi-arabia/

Achilles said...

MLB is still partnered with China.

No decent person will watch a MLB game or support MLB in any way.

No decent person would play for that league.

It is time for good people to start fighting back against evil people.

The Biden Regime is evil.

rcocean said...

The reason "the D's always win" is they are unified and FIGHT. If you're a Democrat Pol, you don't cross schumer or pelosi or you're out - PERIOD. The Governors, the DC senators/congressmen, the media they all march in lock-step like a Democrat Army.

Meanwhile, the No. 3 in the House leadership votes with the Democrats to impeach Trump over nothing, and all the other R's are Cool with it. Kemp and the Arz Governor were AWOL when Trump tried to "Stop the Steal". The R's overrode Trump's veto of the NDAA and helped save Section 230. Bush and McConnell have a lovefest with Biden, their old buddy, after he's inaugurated. And so on.

Take Trump out of the Republican party and what do you have? A controlled opposition that refuses to fight. No wonder the D's win!

rcocean said...

And note that NO ONE talks about the unjustified murder of Ashli Babbitt, while we get 24/7 coverage of the Chauvin-George Floyd trial. This country is insane. Or rather the media and our power elite is.

Jaq said...

Those who are enslaved in China deserve it, doncha know. On account of they are right wing terrorists and Trump supporters!

https://twitter.com/agent_of_change/status/1377631651652636678

Of course the left has sold them out, but that's no excuse for looking for a friend where you can find one in a desperate situation! China's influence in the US media and the Democrat Party gets deeper and deeper each layer of the onion that gets peeled back.

When NPR suggested that information flowed too freely in the US due to the Internet, and that it would probably take 50 years to remake the internet so that information could be controlled, it just seemed like that came right out of mouth of the Chinese Communist Party.

Achilles said...

The major media is owned by about 10 people.

Taking the media down will be one of the biggest steps in this fight.

Jaq said...

"And note that NO ONE talks about the unjustified murder of Ashli Babbitt, while we get 24/7 coverage of the Chauvin-George Floyd trial."

It's not a double standard, it's a hierarchy. You may as well have complained int he 15th century that a 'noble' was allowed to cudgel a peasant for looking at him funny and no peasant was allowed to beat a 'noblemen' whatever the insult. Would you call that a double standard really? Or more a strictly hierarchical power structure. Like a caste system, you know, with the Han people at the very top.

Breezy said...

I wonder if the new Dem Senators from GA will take issue with Schumer's outreach.... kind of a slap in the face after the GA Senators pled for no boycott of GA. Plus, Schumer would not have this 50-50 without them. It would be good to see a roiling internal war on the left, though.

narciso said...

These are the people who would have cheered the holomodor then, you see grover furr among them, who cheered the antirightsist campaigns of mao

DINKY DAU 45 said...

baseball only second to watching paint dry. The cancel people want to have you cancel watching it? Good luck with that, people have nothing to do with their time but watch a game for overpaid prima donna players making millions and making you pay for it, how bout those $10 dollar hot dogs and $8 dollar beers. Capitalism deluxe."I know the old saying "basaball,shes a been belly belly good for me" Watch for the rest of the sports world, GEORGIA only losing 1 game,(braves and other will still play there) but they are sending their message, trump already out of hosting some golf tournament . DYLAN sang it long time ago...the times they are a changin. AMATEURISM going out the window? ,what's good for multi million dollar coaches is good for the players? moving on up to the East side. It is a Brave New World :)

madAsHell said...

CBS is pushing forward a pilot sitcom tentatively called "Everybody Hates Joe Biden."

rehajm said...

Plus, Schumer would not have this 50-50 without them. It would be good to see a roiling internal war on the left, though.

Democrats have trillions in slush money now. My guess is GA Democrats are happy to trade corporate boycotts for Costco sized Federal dollars directed to leftie pet projects and people.

Breezy said...

Ya, you may be right, rehajm. Still, it can't be a good for Abrams et al to have the boomerang effect show up in broad daylight. They were vocal in their opposition to the boycotts for some reason....

Breezy said...

Maybe its all a show.

Jaq said...

"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." - Moad'Dib, Dune

This is how the Democrats operate. Time to fight back with such weapons as we have.

The people who understand baseball and know that it is a fascinating sport with something going on at almost any moment, you know, the core fans of the sport are predominantly old white guys, not saying that there aren't a lot of old black guys with a deep understanding of the game, but we are talking numbers here, and MLB has told us to pound sand. That we can no longer watch a game for three hours to relax, because they are going to make our blood pressure rise with their politics.

They think this is a strategy to get the younger demographic that advertisers crave, due largely to their gullibility, but baseball is handed down generationally, and those days are gone. Baseball was a dying sport, when I was in junior high, they played the WS games over the school PA system. Now it's a nice sport that has large barriers to entry into fandom, and if you don't conquer those barriers, the sport looks like "watching paint dry" to you. Ken Burns series wasn't a celebration of baseball so much as its requiem.

MadisonMan said...

Very nice examples of scattering by the atmosphere.

Jaq said...

'niche sport.' New OS has an auto-malapropism feature, dammit!

wildswan said...

Common Objects of the Country

Double standard:
Voter ID, Driver's license - Delta Condemns as racist
Airline ID, Driver's License - Delta Requires every day on every flight on every plane

rehajm said...

Still, it can't be a good for Abrams et al to have the boomerang effect show up in broad daylight

I think Democrats have stopped caring about their inconsistency and hypocrisy. They actually seem to enjoy it. One of the consequences of elections no longer having consequences, I suppose...

mockturtle said...

wildswan: And before long it will include a 'vaccine ID' to do just about anything. This whole circus would be great entertainment if it weren't so real.

Quayle said...

Annual worldwide conference of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints this weekend. Im interested to see what the leaders are focused on in these times.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IBjjo9VQd5k

Jaq said...

"Airline ID, Driver's License - Delta Requires every day on every flight on every plane"

Not just any ID, but an ID that includes proof of citizenship or lawful residence, a "RealID." Who can get one? Citizens and lawful residents only.

Aliens lawfully admitted for permanent or temporary residence, aliens with conditional permanent resident status, aliens with an approved application for asylum, and aliens who have entered the United States as refugees are eligible for a full-term REAL ID license or identification card.. - DHS

So illegal aliens can't get a RealID? My goodness!

Tomcc said...

Lovely photos, once again.

Wince said...

For the Democrats, this public fight is worse than the open congressional hearings the Democrats didn't want in advance of a vote on HR/SR 1.

The issues presented in the Georgia law are much more straight forward.

wildswan said...

It turns out that covid is surging again but, like a tornado touching down (Atlantic Monthly), It is surging only in certain places which have low levels of vaccinations such as the black communities in Detroit and Milwaukee County. These low levels would have been caused by white supremacy if it were not the case that these cities have Dem leadership. As it is the problem does not exist EXCEPT that the All-Star game must find find a major city which is Dem BUT is not going to lockdown by gameday AND the problem cannot be presented that way AND not California which will have an immigrant-based covid surge by gameday AND not South Dakota, of course, AND not North Carolina (wrongthink toilets) and ... It's like turning a container ship in the Suez Canal. Maybe they can just squoooooze here and squeak by there - if there's an Easter moon.

narciso said...

so the oic, has practically abandoned the uighurs, conversely the rohingya gets all the press, even though they are occupying strategic resources the chinese need. the slorc is an easy scapegoat from the pla

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Navy Seal claims cold water is therapeutic.

link

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Kai Akker said...

Nice, but I don't think whoever swiped that shrub should have done that. Meade.

wildswan said...

It was a nineteenth century convention that great literary works of art such as Homer's epics were based on stories first presented as ballad and songs with short lines and simple meters. So to its intended audience Hiawatha's form was evidently an effort to create the background needed for a national epic. The fault line between the First Nation and the Second was erased when the epic precursor was about unifying the First Nation. Before I knew any of this I just liked the poem.
This was /is my favorite Longfellow:
We sat within the farm-house old,
Whose windows, looking o'er the bay,
Gave to the sea-breeze damp and cold,
An easy entrance, night and day.

Not far away we saw the port,
The strange, old-fashioned, silent town,
The lighthouse, the dismantled fort,
The wooden houses, quaint and brown.

We sat and talked until the night,
Descending, filled the little room;
Our faces faded from the sight,
Our voices only broke the gloom.

We spake of many a vanished scene,
Of what we once had thought and said,
Of what had been, and might have been,
And who was changed, and who was dead;

And all that fills the hearts of friends,
When first they feel, with secret pain,
Their lives thenceforth have separate ends,
And never can be one again;

The first slight swerving of the heart,
That words are powerless to express,
And leave it still unsaid in part,
Or say it in too great excess.

The very tones in which we spake
Had something strange, I could but mark;
The leaves of memory seemed to make
A mournful rustling in the dark.

Oft died the words upon our lips,
As suddenly, from out the fire
Built of the wreck of stranded ships,
The flames would leap and then expire.

And, as their splendor flashed and failed,
We thought of wrecks upon the main,
Of ships dismasted, that were hailed
And sent no answer back again.

The windows, rattling in their frames,
The ocean, roaring up the beach,
The gusty blast, the bickering flames,
All mingled vaguely in our speech;

Until they made themselves a part
Of fancies floating through the brain,
The long-lost ventures of the heart,
That send no answers back again.

O flames that glowed! O hearts that yearned!
They were indeed too much akin,
The drift-wood fire without that burned,
The thoughts that burned and glowed within.

n.n said...

Spectacular, sunrise of red to range.

n.n said...

The issues presented in the Georgia law are much more straight forward.

Facilitating and securing civil rights. I think the conflict is mainly related to cognitive dissonance-induced dysphoria exhibited by some national Democrats, corporate CEOS, civil rights organizations, JournoLists, and President of American, Biden.

Jaq said...

I deleted the Song of Hiawatha excerpt because I thought maybe I had tracked too much mud into Althouse's living room, but I am glad it struck a chord. I think Longfellow is amazing. Yes, he may have dated ideas about Indians and Christianity, but he obviously loved the Indians and did his best to represent them in the best light of which he was capable. Same with James Fenimore Cooper.

I will put it back. The lake picture reminded me of it.

By the shore of Gitche Gumee,
By the shining Big-Sea-Water,
At the doorway of his wigwam,
In the pleasant Summer morning,
Hiawatha stood and waited.
All the air was full of freshness,
All the earth was bright and joyous,
And before him, through the sunshine,
Westward toward the neighboring forest
Passed in golden swarms the Ahmo,
Passed the bees, the honey-makers,
Burning, singing in the sunshine.
Bright above him shone the heavens,
Level spread the lake before him;
From its bosom leaped the sturgeon,
Sparkling, flashing in the sunshine;
On its margin the great forest
Stood reflected in the water,
Every tree-top had its shadow,
Motionless beneath the water.
From the brow of Hiawatha
Gone was every trace of sorrow,
As the fog from off the water,
As the mist from off the meadow

Jaq said...

I guess the above excerpt would have gone better with a sunset picture of the lake, since it is Hiawatha paddling off into the sunset, well if you read the whole thing.

n.n said...

Scenery of orange. When the sun rises.

todd galle said...

We had family game last night which went til 0200 and awoke at the respectable hour of 1000. Winner! We've not seen a sunrise in years, they're nice and all I'll agree, but rolling out of the fart sack at 0430 is far in the past. I do enjoy the photos though, doing the work I'm not willing to entertain anymore.

Breezy said...

Kai Akker... ha ha!

I had the same thought - that is a scary-looking thicket....! Thank goodness it didn’t snag the sun.

Clark said...

Thank you, Tim, for that excerpt. I love to read that poem aloud. The meter is magical. I grew up with Lake Gitche Gumee to the North, West and East. The natural beauty of that country is overwhelming. Some of it finds its way into the poem.

FullMoon said...

mockturtle said... [hush]​[hide comment]

wildswan: And before long it will include a 'vaccine ID' to do just about anything. This whole circus would be great entertainment if it weren't so real.


California opening indoor events.
Hafta show proof of vax, or negative test results. Not sure how one goes about getting a test, how long it is good for, or how much it will cost.

Jaq said...

Longfellow wrote many lyric poems known for their musicality and often presenting stories of mythology and legend. He became the most popular American poet of his day and had success overseas. He has been criticized by some, however, for imitating European styles and writing specifically for the masses.. -- Wikipedia

Jeezum Crow. Who killed poetry as an art form? We don't have to look very far.

Big Mike said...

Anybody besides me miss the calm, and vastly less chaotic, days of the Trump presidency?

Static Ping said...

It says something that Achilles now sounds like the voice of reason.

The Democrat Party has essentially declared war at this point. They have targeted a state for perfectly fine electoral reforms that are less stringent than some states Democrats run, and they have managed to convince our institutions to go along with the blatant lies. You cannot reason with people who act in bad faith as a matter of policy. It appears we have found the hill to die on because there are simply no more hills.

tcrosse said...

Four Lakes of Madison
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807–1882)

FOUR limpid lakes,—four Naiades
Or sylvan deities are these,
In flowing robes of azure dressed;
Four lovely handmaids that uphold
Their shining mirrors, rimmed with gold, 5
To the fair city in the West.

By day the coursers of the Sun
Drink of these waters as they run
Their swift, diurnal round on high;
By night the constellations glow 10
Far down the hollow deeps below,
And glimmer in another sky.

Fair lakes, serene and full of light,
Fair town, arrayed in robes of white,
How visionary ye appear! 15
All like a floating landscape seems
In cloud-land or the land of dreams,
Bathed in a golden atmosphere!

Mutaman said...

"How Trump Steered Supporters Into Unwitting Donations

Online donors were guided into weekly recurring contributions. Demands for refunds spiked. Complaints to banks and credit card companies soared. But the money helped keep Donald Trump’s struggling campaign afloat."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/03/us/politics/trump-donations.html

rhhardin said...

The multiplicity of becoming-cunt as an assemblage reassembles the tensors upon which it expresses force and by which force is expressed upon its various planes and dimensions. p.144

A book by Patricia MacCormack reviewed harshly by https://www.takimag.com/article/easy-to-put-down/Theodore Dalrymple.

He's too quick to dismiss that as nonsense. Tensor analysis of cunts is the best idea since Stress Analysis of a Strapless Evening Gown.

n.n said...

This is how the Nazi party took over Germany.

Diversity, social justice, equity, and wicked solution. Fascism is socialism's footstool.

Drago said...
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Drago said...

Mutaman is now, officially, pro-tossing of little foreign girls over high walls onto US territory with zero concerns about injuries and stacking children like cordwood by the hundreds in democratical/LLR-lefty cages meant only to hold a few dozen.

Also, leftists murdering capital police officers is also totes cool...as is muslims gunning down in double digits white Christians.

Discuss.

Big Mike said...

History was made today. On HGTV. a woman walked into her renovated house, and did not say “Oh, my God!”

She said “Oh, my heavens!”

BUMBLE BEE said...

Hey Mutaman... how's that collusion investigation goin, you're so smart?

rehajm said...

They have targeted a state for perfectly fine electoral reforms that are less stringent than some states Democrats run

Their concern is outsized because Georgia is key to their never again 'lose' an election dominance.

PeterJ said...

Sunrise over the lake: from one day to the next it looks remarkably similar.

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Jaq said...

Now do how Joe Biden steered half the graft collected by his children for peddling his pull to kleptocrats worldwide, into his own pockets.

The real Borat was in a picture with Joe and Hunter Biden and Kazakhstan wants the money he stole from the country back.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/17/hunter-biden-reportedly-also-had-business-ties-in-kazakhstan/

We can do this all day Mutaman. Biden's crime will always be hundreds of fold worse than anything you can come up with on Trump.

Browndog said...

Mutaman said...

"How Trump Steered Supporters Into Unwitting Donations

Online donors were guided into weekly recurring contributions. Demands for refunds spiked. Complaints to banks and credit card companies soared. But the money helped keep Donald Trump’s struggling campaign afloat."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/03/us/politics/trump-donations.html


There is an issue with Trump campaign money-

This...ain't it.

$450M disappeared from the Trump re-election campaign. Money controlled by Jared Kushner and Rona Romney. Pulled ad buys from all the swing States Trump lost.

No one...NO ONE..is saying boo about it-

Almost as if....

walter said...

Any San Diego parents of public school students around here?
Will there be an "insurrection"?

Michael K said...

Since Mutaman and Inga are going all Qanon on us, Here is a projection of our future under Biden's ear plug.

It was in 1998 — a mere 23 years ago — that Hugo Chavez first got elected President of Venezuela. From the start, his program was explicitly one of vastly increased government spending, which was supposed to make the economy grow, reduce income inequality, eliminate poverty and bring about social justice. Chavez called the social programs his “Bolivarian missions.” Among some 30 or so such “missions,” big ones included blowout spending on education, subsidized food, subsidized housing and healthcare.

In the early years, things seemed to be going swimmingly, at least if you believed the official statistics put out by Chavez’s government. Not only was there supposedly steady and mostly rapid economic growth (often over 5% per year, particularly 2004-10), but they also regularly crowed about how the redistributionist spending had greatly reduced the rate of poverty. Then, starting around 2013, it all started to fall apart. Today, eight years later, it continues to fall apart.


I just hope it doesn't fall apart until I am gone. Unfortunately, my mother lived to 103.

Read the whole thing.

J. Farmer said...

We can do this all day Mutaman.

Indeed we can. And have. For 30 years. Over and over and over again.

"Our radically polarized politics, and the absence of a center in American democracy today, reflect longterm structural and historical changes in American democracy that are likely to endure for some time to come. Contrary to what many Americans would like to believe, this radical polarization should not be attributed to the individual personalities who happen to occupy leadership positions, including the presidency, at particular moments. Nearly two years into the Obama era, this should be increasingly apparent even to those who blamed the previous eight years of intense partisanship on President George W. Bush. Presidents Bush and Obama have different personalities and presidential styles, but the essential structure of politics that has characterized the last generation—of parties and citizens who see political choices through radically different lenses, with no common ground between them—has not changed at all. Indeed, it might even be intensifying. The forces fueling this generation of partisanship are much deeper, and more enduring, than a matter of particular personalities. If anything, political leaders are caught within these structures, even those who might genuinely desire to forge more commo ground and seek a more consensual politics. We should not delude ourselves into thinking that the next election, or the one after that, will change any of this."

-"Why the Center Does Not Hold: The Causes of Hyperpolarized Democracy in America" Aug. 2010

walter said...

As the "surge" grows, LA Cty DA Gascon is downsizing/renaming gang unit (I suggest Team Clipboard) and generally pulling back on enforcement.
Let the Re-Imagining commence...

Browndog said...

I learned a new word today:

Susie Dent

A reminder of the word ‘gobemouche’ (19th century): a credulous person who believes everything they are told. (French for ‘fly-swallower’).


I mention this for no particular reason.

walter said...

Lying dog-faced gobernouche!

J. Farmer said...

@Michael K:

I just hope it doesn't fall apart until I am gone. Unfortunately, my mother lived to 103.

Read the whole thing.


Venezuela has a problem that the US doesn't (and can't) have: huge external debts in foreign currencies.

stevew said...

Not exactly purposeful but I've abandoned watching and, thus, supporting professional sports. We moved last June. At the rental place and then at our newly built home we acquired internet service but no television plan (no phone either). We stream via Netflix, Prime, HBO, BritBox, and such, but do not have access to any of the sports channels. I looked into signing up for the NHL, for the Bruins especially, but it turns out they blackout the local team's games. So I don't watch sports. Have since realized I don't miss it.

I am an accidental boycotter.

Narr said...

J. Farmer observes:

Venezuela has a problem that the US doesn't (and can't) have: huge external debts in foreign currencies.

OTOH, we have problems NOBODY else has, or can have--imperial overstretch covered by bluster and backed by finger-wagging, presided over by corrupt and zealous incompetents.

I posted to the Kavanaugh thread in answer to Greg, but the mod-clock is on; I hope it's allowed.

Narr
back after dinner

tcrosse said...

Gobermouche is the kid brother of Scaramouche. He's a douche.

Browndog said...

So I don't watch sports. Have since realized I don't miss it.

Yes you do. We, those that grew up watching sports, all do. We want it to be like it was. Sports, for many of us, was the epitome of Americana.

Which is why it's been destroyed.

Those of us that value athletic competition as a necessary function in the human endeavor will never "not miss it".

Browndog said...

tcrosse said...

Gobermouche is the kid brother of Scaramouche. He's a douche.


Took a minute to stop laughing to say ...well, still laughing-

n.n said...

LA Cty DA Gascon is downsizing/renaming gang unit (I suggest Team Clipboard) and generally pulling back on enforcement.

You are now free to abort, rape-rape, and redistributive change when politically congruent. That said, I wonder how many times civilizations have been reduced, reused, and recycled in this cycle of social progression and corruption. One step forward, two steps backward.

Michael K said...

Venezuela has a problem that the US doesn't (and can't) have: huge external debts in foreign currencies.

Coming to a Democrat near you. Once the dollar, now with debt 110% of GDP, is no longer a reserve currency.

Michael K said...

Here is some real conspiracy for the resident dullard.

♦Multinational corporations purchase controlling interests in various national outputs (harvests and raw materials), and ancillary industries, of developed industrial western nations. {example}

♦The Multinational Corporations making the purchases are underwritten by massive global financial institutions, multinational banks. (*note* in China it is the communist government underwriting the purchase)

♦The Multinational Banks and the Multinational Corporations then utilize lobbying interests to manipulate the internal political policy of the targeted nation state(s).

♦With control over the targeted national industry or interest, the multinationals then leverage export of the national asset (exfiltration) through trade agreements structured to the benefit of lesser developed nation states – where they have previously established a proactive financial footprint.

Against the backdrop of President Trump confronting China; and against the backdrop of NAFTA renegotiated; and against the necessary need to support the key U.S. steel and aluminum industries; revisiting the economic influences within the modern import/export dynamic will help conceptualize the issues at the heart of the matter.

wildswan said...

Say you know what is and what ain't so, Joe. Say you know.

walter said...

wildswan,
The lid was called 8 hours ago.

Ken B said...

I clearly did not pay close enough attention in tensor algebra.

Howard said...

I thought you people said bring it on when I mentioned boycotting GA corporations over Jim Crow 2.0 last week.

You know they gonna trot out Fuzzy Zoeller when the Masters fires up. Who doesn't love fried chicken and watermelon?

Achilles said...

J. Farmer said...


Venezuela has a problem that the US doesn't (and can't) have: huge external debts in foreign currencies.

There is only one purchaser of US Government debt now.

The dollar is going to zero.

walter said...

Howard Cloward (AKA Semper Fud),
This is JIM EAGLE!!!!!!
IDs for voting. WTF! Are we in Mexico or something?
Fuck that.
Pulse=vote.

walter said...

(Pulse optional with doctor's note)

walter said...

I hope they preserve Joe's pictoral guide to press folk in the Smithsonian.
"eh...Yameeeech?"

J. Farmer said...

@Achilles:

There is only one purchaser of US Government debt now.

The dollar is going to zero.


I remember everyone saying the exact same thing a decade ago. Hyperinflation was right around the corner. When the US starts to see food and energy shortages, then we can talk about comparisons to Weimar, Zimbabwe, and Venezuela. Economics is not science. It's political philosophy.

Rusty said...

"Venezuela has a problem that the US doesn't (and can't) have: huge external debts in foreign currencies."
It has no value to trade. Nothing. It can't run it's own refineries. Its crude is useless.