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143 comments:
Hmmm. Imagine the Grammy's not getting it?
He's right, you know. His father was huge in the world of rock and the world of guitarists. Sorry, son. Cardi B had taken up the time we had masturbating on stage.
Oh...and good morning, everyone.
Les Paul recognized EVH as a most influential guitarist of his musical form. Wolf got it right. Fuck the Grammys. They are an anachronism.
They were too busy preparing the strip tease dance with the VAGINA pillows in the background to care about REAL music.
Rock has been played out since the mid-70s.
No place to go.
Fake rebellion from rich kids.
It’s so bad that Springsteen is calling the residents of “My Hometown” redneck racists.
The Weeknd wasn't nominated for anything, either. Not that he's an Eddie Van Halen, but the Grammy people obviously had a direction they wanted to go and they went there.
The ratings were down by just about half, from something like 18 million viewers last year to under 10 million. In a lockdown year. People aren't listening to less music, but they sure are celebrating it less.
I'd say the Norie Takahashi and Björn Lehmann cover of the Brandenburg Concertos would be record of the year. Even better than Sontraud Speidel and Evelinde Trenkner cover.
https://www.musicradar.com/news/the-10-different-ways-eddie-van-halen-made-guitar-great
Temujin said...
Sorry, son. Cardi B had taken up all the time post-Beatles blacks used to sit, bored silly, watching your father and his ilk - masturbating with his guitar - with something closer to the real thing. I mean - hey - masturbating is masturbating, right? And why not bore the people who stole rock from those who invented it - not caring one iota if they disappointed them instead of white folks - and then let them have some fun for a change?
You guys really shouldn't have started that whole "That's not music" thing - you fuck up EVERYTHING with your ignorant racist hate. I liked EVH.
Soft porn girl on girl style is just the thing to get that audience back. Sadly it drove away most of the rest of the audience that had been coming around for the event.
Let’s all form a mutual appreciation group and give each other “major awards”. Who the heck cares. It’s all phony constructs. Zappa (another guitar innovator and legend) had it right with more prescience than he may have ever realized.
I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you
I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out
From your TV set
You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help... no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold
That's right, folks...
Don't touch that [button]
Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go
I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go
EVH used to talk about the sjhit whites gave him when he got to America. They made him have to prove himself before they cut him some slack, so all his friends were black kids.
That's probably how he got so cool.
So Cardi B and Megan the Stallion on stage simulating sex on a huge bed with pillows that are made to look like a giant Vagina is something for blacks to be proud of Crack?? Okay then. I'll take Motown and the music of the 70's (which I LOVE!!) before I would call anything that Cardi B does as music. If that's racist, then I'm a racist.
I love how they preach their message of equality, love and inclusion, and at the same time give awards to people who talk about (that bad word for a black person), beating up hos, glorify drug and gun stuff, dance on the pole to treat women like meat, and all the rest. There isn't an industry that is more two faced than music.
Quayle said...
"Zappa,.."
Zappa is God, and it's a sin to quote him if you don't respect it. He said he didn't want to be black, but sometimes he doesn't want to be white, because white people are embarrassing. He sang about their racism constantly. He had a black lead singer in his band.
Nothing like the people here.
wendybar said...
"So Cardi B and Megan the Stallion on stage simulating sex on a huge bed with pillows that are made to look like a giant Vagina is something for blacks to be proud of Crack?? Okay then."
Pride is not mentioned in a single post I've written - you just made it up for me - as all you white folks do: you assume I'm saying things - repeat it as MY STATEMENT - and then go on to rant how awful it is. Repeatedly. And then you wonder how you get things so wrong.
"I'll take Motown and the music of the 70's (which I LOVE!!) before I would call anything that Cardi B does as music. If that's racist, then I'm a racist."
You're a racist - trapped in the racist 70s.
wendybar said...
"I'll take Motown and the music of the 70's (which I LOVE!!) before I would call anything that Cardi B does as music. If that's racist, then I'm a racist."
A racist, not wanting to leave the 70s - that's FUNNY.
Dan from Madison said...
I love how they preach their message of equality, love and inclusion, and at the same time give awards to people who WRITE SONGS.
That you take those songs to mean more than you do white folks' songs - which cause the Devil to show up if you play them backwards - is revealing of your racism.
I remember Led Zeppelin singing "Hey, hey, Fellas, have you seen the news? You-know-what is back in town,..." and remember The Rolling Stones' "Brown Sugar"? A high point in race relations.
White folks are a hypocritical trip.
The Crack Emcee said...
Pride is not mentioned in a single post I've written - you just made it up for me - as all you white folks do: you assume I'm saying things - repeat it as MY STATEMENT
Isn't it interesting Crack puts words in the mouths of all whites even as he whines about others putting words in his mouth? They are racist for doing so but he refuses to similarly apply that standard to himself.
The truth is people reject Crack because he's an idiot who can't think straight. His blaming it on race is the only way he can deflect attention from his own stupidity.
Rick said...
"Isn't it interesting Crack puts words in the mouths of all whites AFTER THEY CONTIUNALLY MOB HIM? They are racist for doing so but he refuses to similarly apply that standard to himself BECAUSE ALL I CARE ABOUT IS NAILING A NIGGER NO MATTER HOW MANY WHITES HERE REGULARLY ATTACK HIM FOR SPEAKING..
The truth is people reject Crack because he's an idiot who can't think straight - BUT HE'S GOT A SCREENSHOT OF ME LYING.
His blaming it on race is the only way he can deflect attention from his own stupidity - WHICH COUNTLESS WHITE PEOPLE, HERE, HAVE PRAISED AS WISDOM THIS BLOG'S COMMENT SECTION SORELY NEEDS.
That 2012 Republican Party Autopsy that said you guys are the nation's racists isn't gonna make a dent, is it?
uh oh, CAPS
The Crack Emcee said...That 2012 Republican Party Autopsy that said you guys are the nation's racists isn't gonna make a dent, is it?
I'm pretty sure there aren't any Republican Party officials in this comment thread. Nobody here represents the party, nobody here speaks for the party, nobody here is obligated to defend or reform the party. This misunderstanding permeates your comments at Althouse.
Valentine Smith said...
uh oh, CAPS
uh, oh WHITE FOLKS IGNORING QUESTIONS:
That 2012 Republican Party Election Autopsy - that said you guys are the nation's racists - isn't gonna make a dent, is it?
tim maguire said...
The Crack Emcee said...That 2012 Republican Party Autopsy that said you guys are the nation's racists isn't gonna make a dent, is it?
I'm pretty sure there aren't any Republican Party officials in this comment thread.
You guys are the party.
A repost - s because you will ignore the point, here, too:
Dan from Madison said...
I love how they preach their message of equality, love and inclusion, and at the same time give awards to people who WRITE SONGS.
That you take those songs to mean more than you do white folks' songs - which cause the Devil to show up if you play them backwards - is revealing of your racism.
I remember Led Zeppelin singing "Hey, hey, Fellas, have you seen the news? You-know-what is back in town,..." and remember The Rolling Stones' "Brown Sugar"? A high point in race relations.
White folks are a hypocritical trip.
You need to attack blacks - for seemingly anything beyond breathing - is vomit-inducing.
Why won't they leave the Democrats and vote with us, constantly complaining they're alive?
The Crack Emcee said...You guys are the party.
Because we're white?
tim maguire said...
The Crack Emcee said...You guys are the party.
Because we're white?
Because you bitch if Tucker Carlson is butthurt.
Man- this sure devolved quickly.
Sorry Crack. You can pin any words to it you want, bring race into it- which is what I expect from anyone who tries to defend CardiB as on the same level as actual music. I know music is your field, but seriously- anyone going to walk around whistling a CardiB tune in about 8 years?
The Beatles? Yes. Smokey Robinson? Of course. Wayne Shorter? Well...I will. Cardi-freakin B and her large flailing ass? Not a chance.
I know this argument that blacks and black music has not been represented at The Grammys has been around for years- and it's correct. Anyone who has listened to music at all over the past 40 years would agree with that. The Grammys have always been bullshit. But the post was correct. To ignore Eddie Van Halen while going over the people lost over the last year is just plain stupid if it's a music industry show. I was not a Van Halen fan. I could not tell you the name of one of their tunes. But I know their music will be played for decades. Cardi B is just a gnat on a large cow's ass.
You guys are nothing like Zappa or EVH, who liked blacks - as we are - way more than you do, so give it a break.
The Crack Emcee said...You need to attack blacks - for seemingly anything beyond breathing - is vomit-inducing
Your shameless racism is getting tiresome. You think you can attack any white person using the words of any other white person. We're all the same, we all speak for each other. I can't remember the last time I voted Republican (or Democrat), but because I'm white, I speak for Republicans and they speak for me.
The Crack Emcee said...
"Isn't it interesting Crack puts words in the mouths of all whites AFTER THEY CONTIUNALLY MOB HIM? They are racist for doing so but he refuses to similarly apply that standard to himself BECAUSE ALL I CARE ABOUT IS NAILING A NIGGER NO MATTER HOW MANY WHITES HERE REGULARLY ATTACK HIM FOR SPEAKING..
Not for speaking. For attacking based on false assertions, and for being a racist. Again you pretend all criticism is due to race when it clearly is not. The underlying principle of your assertion is that it's racist for whites to criticize blacks. Not only is this racist but all sane people reject it.
But your all-caps is convincing, so you've got that going for you.
Masturbation on a stage-prop bed? Madonna did it in 1984. Video.
Police were called in Toronto.
It's in the documentary movie "Truth or Dare."
On-stage masturbation dancing goes back at least to 1913 with Nijinsky in "The Rite of Spring."
How anyone can find that Grammy performance norm-busting, I don't know. Well, I do know. It's through ignorance and forgetting.
The sexuality of dancing is a given. If you're not making it sexy, you're not dancing. The only question is what level of subtlety to pick. But nothing is new.
Temujin said...
"Man- this sure devolved quickly. "
You guys are never aware of how gross you are, filling up space, daily, complaining about blacks. If you're not racists, you do a damn good impression of them. Daily.
"The Beatles? Yes. Smokey Robinson? Of course. Wayne Shorter? Well...I will. Cardi-freakin B and her large flailing ass? Not a chance."
Just because you guys missed, or ignored the evolution of music since The Beatles is nobody's fault but your own. It wasn't blacks who first rejected them, but post-war Germans who wanted nothing to do with who defeated them - ands so Kraftwerk started messing with electronics and the rest is history. So you should blame the white man - again - but, being racists, stop at blaming blacks who liked what they were doing.
"I know this argument that blacks and black music has not been represented at The Grammys has been around for years- and it's correct. Anyone who has listened to music at all over the past 40 years would agree with that. The Grammys have always been bullshit."
But the first time you see a clear correction, whites should still go ballistic, because it's not filled with guitar solos?
"The post was correct. To ignore Eddie Van Halen while going over the people lost over the last year is just plain stupid if it's a music industry show."
That's the ONLY thing here I agree with.
"I was not a Van Halen fan. I could not tell you the name of one of their tunes. But I know their music will be played for decades."
I was, I can, and they will.
"Cardi B is just a gnat on a large cow's ass."
And Mama Cass choking on a ham sandwich cracks me up to no end.
What a bunch of stupid bastards.
Sit here and let this racist crackhead berate you, then ask for more. Daily.
Enjoy.
"And Mama Cass choking on a ham sandwich cracks me up to no end."
you must work for the New York Times
Rick said...
"Your all-caps is convincing, so you've got that going for you."
Says the man with his own screenshot and post.
Christ every thread is a dumpster fire lately. Makes one’s eyes bleed.
Browndog said...
What a bunch of stupid bastards.
Sit here and let this racist crackhead berate you, then ask for more. Daily.
Enjoy.
That's right - you guys should be doing what you're doing when I get here:
DISHING IT OUT TO UNSEEN NIGGERS
unknown said...
Christ every thread is a dumpster fire lately. Makes one’s eyes bleed.
It's nice when whites can diss blacks without interruption, right?
Woman-on-woman action at the Grammys, man-on-man action in the Althouse comments. Who could have predicted?
"I know rock isn't the most important genre right now...""
That message does not seem to be getting around in some quarters,...
Ann Althouse said...
"Woman-on-woman action at the Grammys, man-on-man action in the Althouse comments. Who could have predicted?"
I keep saying, if you eliminated liars, it would stop. ST and ick would be gone already, which would stop about 30% of the attacks on me alone.
BTW - that evil Michelle woman is a woman. And so is Wendybar.
You just have some ugly people who hang here.
You guys really shouldn't have started that whole "That's not music" thing - you fuck up EVERYTHING with your ignorant racist hate.
And you always do.
Crack is the new Morgan Freeman. Every time he says something that he thinks is enlightening, he sprouts a new freckle.
Quit watching in 2009 when they stopped awarding the Grammy for Best Polka Album. It was just going to Jimmy Sturr every year anyhow. I guess this year he would have done “Wet Ass Polka” to stay relevant.
Another thread hijacked. Sad.
THEOLDMAN
The Crack Emcee said...
You guys are nothing like Zappa or EVH, who liked blacks - as we are - way more than you do, so give it a break.
Me: Better check out the cover of Zappa's Joe's Garage before he gets posthumously cancelled for blackface.
(Hmmmm..ready for some Zappa's "Catholic Girls")
The Crack Emcee said...I keep saying, if you eliminated liars, it would stop. ST and ick would be gone already, which would stop about 30% of the attacks on me alone.
Eliminating ST and ick would atop 30% of the attacks on you? The professor could stop 100% of the attacks on you with half the eliminations if they are targeted more precisely to the problem.
After I've experienced going from being one of San Francisco's most exciting artists to - canceled - I'd tell EVH's son exactly what Zappa said about musical legacies:
"It doesn't matter."
You either do what you do, because you want to hear it before you die, or you don't. How badly you want to hear it is all that matters.
The sun's gonna die, too, one day - and so will all your critics, competitors, fans, opportunists, groupies, industry types, and assorted hangers-on.
But that riff - that made YOU smile - that's forever.
This was an interesting post, but it looks like the comment thread has already been completely derailed.
The music industry as a whole primarily exists to churn out lowest common denominator "music" of whatever type, to grab the attention of the ever-dwindling audience that still listens to the radio. This shit is literally churned out of factories where teams of professional songwriters collaborate to write and focus group the insipid hooks that they insert into whatever new songs will be assigned to the pop stars du jour. The Academy mostly exists to prop up this stuff being generated by the record labels, which is why rock and other interesting music is so woefully underrepresented.
There are real musicians out there, writing interesting music and playing gigs and building their fanbase. But those artists tend to pursue niche audiences rather than broad ones. Their music appeals to their fans, but isn't designed to be so broadly palatable that it would receive approval from record labels and radio censors and whatever else is required to get wide distribution. Streaming services allow people to find these niche artists and listen to them directly, without people having to sit around and wait for some radio DJ to play something they are interested in hearing.
I hope Wolf gets his audience with the Academy, as it would be great to see rock and its various offshoots get some attention. But I wouldn't hold my breath. The Grammys exist for an essentially incompatible purpose.
Wait. I thought n***** was banned word at this blog. Yet there it is upthread. Just want to be clear on the rules. Is it banned or is the ban conditional on one's claimed melanin status?
tim maguire said...
"The professor could stop 100% of the attacks on you with half the eliminations if they are targeted more precisely to the problem."
Yes, I'm sure that never allowing me a normal conversation is the answer Ann and Meade clearly see available to them, after witnessing ST and your type insisting I can't even have a portion of that.
Tell me, Tim - where were you when I was offering to collaborate musically with ST, but he wanted to argue race, instead?
And where were you when I said I had "more in common with Michael K than Michael Moore" and then Michael K called me a liar when I recounted events from my childhood?
Tell me, Tim, why this need to pile on? There's only one of me - ever - but I fight an army of whites for saying things like [peeks at my first comment above] MAYBE WHITE AMERICANS SHOULDN'T SPOIL EVERYTHING BEFORE THEY ACCEPT IT UNDER CONSTANT COMPLAINTS AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE BETTER.
It's a radical position to hold, I know.
Marcus Bressler said...
"Joe's Garage" is on my wall.
Crack, you weren’t canceled, you failed.
99.999% of people do fail to hit the Big Time in the music biz.
Almost all of them accept that failure and move on to developing a sensible job skill. Some of them, like me, find a little niche (church and classical choral music) where they can stay active.
You refused to accept reality. Woodstock is littered with guys like you who refused to accept that they failed and they are just as bitter, poverty stricken and, often, as psychotic as you. They are also all little Napoleons like you.
"You're a racist - trapped in the racist 70s."
Yep. So I've been told over and over again by Regressives since I didn't vote for Saint Obama. I am proud of it. I would rather be called a racist by the likes of you, then to be on the side of hate and violence like YOU are.
Ann Althouse said...
"Masturbation on a stage-prop bed? Madonna did it in 1984. Video."
I never like her either. But she didn't have a giant Vulva pillow in the background on the giant bed they were rolling around on.
Sad. Just sad. The thread was supposed to be about Rock and E Van Halen’s contribution.
It reads like a CRT therapy session.
And smells as putrid.
I watched a little outtake of the Grammy’s.
‘
Basically, a better produced, stylized version of the Girls in a Fishtank live sex scene in Times Square in the 70s and early 80s.
God of the Sea People said...
This was an interesting post, but it looks like the comment thread has already been completely derailed.
It doesn't have to be - just stop the bullshit and talk normally.
"There are real musicians out there, writing interesting music and playing gigs and building their fanbase."
That last part isn't necessary, anymore, we're finding. I know a lot of musicians and we're just trading shit amongst ourselves. I have a backlog of other's music to listen to, none of it heard by the public. It's like Jazz musicians in the 30s and 40s jamming in private.
The public wasn't, and isn't, necessary.
The Crack Emcee said...
BTW - that evil Michelle woman is a woman. And so is Wendybar.
You just have some ugly people who hang here.
3/16/21, 7:38 AM
I'm ugly because I don't like watching soft porn on an award show that kids like to watch? Okay then. I am an UGLY RACIST, and I am proud of it, because I am not like YOU.
Bitter Clinger said...
Wait. I thought n***** was banned word at this blog. Yet there it is upthread. Just want to be clear on the rules. Is it banned or is the ban conditional on one's claimed melanin status?
3/16/21, 8:04
RIGHT???
Rock probably should have ended a long time earlier, but there was a strong comercial interest in keeping it around past its due date. There will always be rock to sell as long as the rock generation is still around to buy it.
wendybar said...
"You're a racist - trapped in the racist 70s."
"Yep."
See? If you're just gonna say "Yep" then don't complain when I call you that. You sound insane.
"So I've been told over and over again by Regressives since I didn't vote for Saint Obama."
I didn't vote for Obama, either - twice - but nobody's accusing me of being a racist over it, so you've got problems.
"I am proud of it."
Most racists are, surprisingly.
"I would rather be called a racist by the likes of you, then to be on the side of hate and violence like YOU are."
Right. I'm the guy MLK died for - demanding reparations - and but you,...never mind. You're too silly to continue.
he Crack Emcee said...
... why this need to pile on? There's only one of me - ever - but I fight an army of whites
Note that it's Crack himself who generalizes every comment he objects to from the person making it to "whites" generally and then he whines when others included by him respond. It seems the easy solution to this dilemma would be for him to not do this, but unfortunately his racism precludes that option.
wendybar said...
Ann Althouse said...
"Masturbation on a stage-prop bed? Madonna did it in 1984. Video."
I never like her either. But she didn't have a giant Vulva pillow in the background on the giant bed they were rolling around on.
Remember when The Beastie Boys toured, with a giant white COCK hovering over the audience, that shot cum on command?
Oh, Man, when they were a ROCK BAND the shit was LIT.
"Remember when The Beastie Boys toured, with a giant white COCK hovering over the audience, that shot cum on command?"
Did they do it on the Grammys during Prime time??
It seems rude to ask the son to play the father's signature piece. Just because their names are the same doesn't mean the skills or interests are. Who played the other in memoriam pieces? Eh, I don't care enough to look. I'm sorry for Wolf, though. Eddie's passing still feels fresh.
"Right. I'm the guy MLK died for - demanding reparations - and but you,...never mind. You're too silly to continue."
No you are not. You are judging people by their color, not by the content of their character. All that MATTERS to you is color.
wendybar said...
"All that we gots here's American made, it's a little bit cheesy but nicely displayed." (Zappa).
I'm ugly because I limit my memories of musical horror to genres and races I don't like, and forget even Motown was about adultery, and cheating, and murder and LIFE, which I prefer to shelter myself and everyone else from, as they endure it and I don't, in my plastic bubble being "Plastic People" who know and feel nothing.
Crack, I haven't been participating in that back-and-forth in the least.
As a musician, I try to avoid putting down other musicians even if their music doesn't directly appeal to me. I don't have much respect for corporate pop, but other than that I am content to let people do their own thing.
I also know a lot of musicians that basically write music for their own purposes. I probably fall under that umbrella as well. These days you can easily record an entire album in a home studio, distribute and sell it online, and never have any use for a record label. Pretty much the only service that a record label provides that can't easily and affordably be done yourself is PR/promotion. If you want to sell enough copies to make a living, or make an expensive tour viable- you may need an assist on the promotion side of things. But songwriting and performing is something anyone can do.
wendybar said...
"Right. I'm the guy MLK died for - demanding reparations - and but you,...never mind. You're too silly to continue."
No you are not. You are judging people by their color, not by whether they know one line from one speech and refuse to listen to the others demanding reparations so will side with anyone who repeats those lines.
Ironclad said...
Sad. Just sad. The thread was supposed to be about Rock and E Van Halen’s contribution.
It reads like a CRT therapy session.
It should read like what whites did to EVH when he arrived - that's what he said. He hung with black kids instead of whites.
You guys learned nothing from that.
EVH said, when he arrived, he hung with black kids instead of whites because white kids were mean to him.
I have recounted that, on my first day at a white school, whites were mean to me.
In the Navy, I served under a racist - who was mean to people.
Now I'm here - and you guys are some mean hombres.
It's a thing with you, that you refuse to recognize.
Kay said...
Rock probably should have ended a long time earlier, but there was a strong comercial interest in keeping it around past its due date. There will always be rock to sell as long as the rock generation is still around to buy it.
I still listen to it. New stuff, too. There's tons of good stuff out there. These guys are HEAVY.
BTW - Nobody ruins threads, or America, but you guys not being open to anything but whiteness. It really is your problem.
The Crack Emcee said...
No you are not. You are judging people by their color,
It's pretty amusing to see Crack say this implying judging people by their color is wrong blem when he does it in every thread.
Rick said...
he Crack Emcee said...
... why this need to pile on? There's only one of me - ever - but I fight an army of whites
Note that it's Crack himself who speaks like a normal person and calls whites "whites" which no black person I've ever encountered has reacted to - anymore than calling blacks "blacks" - but makes you guys freak-the-fuck-out every time.
BTW - it's Rick the Ick
Kate said...
"It seems rude to ask the son to play the father's signature piece. Just because their names are the same doesn't mean the skills or interests are. Who played the other in memoriam pieces?"
There is that, too. It's kinda creepy.
"Eh, I don't care enough to look. I'm sorry for Wolf, though. Eddie's passing still feels fresh."
Indeed.
"I keep saying, if you eliminated liars, it would stop."
So that's my job: finding all the liars and eliminating them.
I'm actually busy writing this blog. I'm not the cleaning lady. And even if it were my job, I'm not a human lie detector. The world isn't going to get straightened out somehow. People lie. They deviate from the strict truth. Everyone knows that. You have to live in the world that is.
Ann Althouse said...
"I keep saying, if you eliminated liars, it would stop."
So that's my job: finding all the liars and eliminating them.
No - but if they're already identified,...
The Crack Emcee said...
wendybar said...
"Right. I'm the guy MLK died for - demanding reparations - and but you,...never mind. You're too silly to continue."
No you are not. You are judging people by their color, not by whether they know one line from one speech and refuse to listen to the others demanding reparations so will side with anyone who repeats those lines.
3/16/21, 8:27 AM
Oh Crack....You crack me up. Those words in quotes were quoted from YOU. I answered with "No you are not. You are judging people by their color, not by the content of their character. All that MATTERS to you is color."
But because you have so much hate in your heart, you attack me with YOUR words, when YOU posted them. YOU are the BIGGEST Judgmental person on this blog. Enough with your words of hate, and antagonizing. Grow up. Oh, and stop using the N word. I don't care what color you are.
The Crack Emcee said...
makes you guys freak-the-fuck-out every time.
Recognizing racism is not a freak out. Even you can tell the spelling is different.
Note how Crack pretends referring to whites is the objection rather than wrongly attributing them beliefs based on one person's comment and then attacking them all based on that error.
It's not surprising he's driven off anyone who was ever around him. This toxicity must be hard for anyone to be around.
But you must stop the clutter that comes in the form of addressing other commenters by name and insulting them.
I am going to eliminate that clutter and I don't want to see it again. Those who are doing it know I feel this way, know they are foisting extra work on me, and yet they continue. They waste my time and they do it right in my face. The main person who does this knows who he is and has the nerve to thank me for indulging him. He needs to stop NOW or be regarded as a troll and deleted from now on — deleted unread, like the other people who WASTE my time.
I will be deleting soon, so you look now to see what will not be here in a moment.
Ann said,..
"The world isn't going to get straightened out somehow."
You keep saying things like that ("_________ is never going to stop", etc.) which sounds less to me like a fact, and more like you don't want anything to work, because you're not willing to do anything serious about it.
You guys don't want Bill Clinton arrested for four rapes - so you can keep fighting the left, for instance. It's all you jawbone about, but mention actually doing it and you guys all recoil.
Very strange.
The Crack Emcee said...
Kay said...
Rock probably should have ended a long time earlier, but there was a strong comercial interest in keeping it around past its due date. There will always be rock to sell as long as the rock generation is still around to buy it.
I still listen to it. New stuff, too. There's tons of good stuff out there. These guys are HEAVY.
BTW - Nobody ruins threads, or America, but you guys not being open to anything but whiteness. It really is your problem.
3/16/21, 8:36 AM
Not saying that there can’t be good new rock made today, just that it already reached its cultural peak a long time ago. In fact, today, if you want to make good rock, you have no choice but to reference that peak I mentioned.
I guess my question is, why does Wolf Van Halen's opinion matter? Is he a famous guitarist or songwriter? Or just the child of one of the greats. I have to tell you, I don't much care what any of the children of the greats think, they have not done anything to earn the right to speak with authority as far as I can tell. But he wants to have a conversation with the people behind the Grammy's? Why would they listen to him?
The Grammys don't matter, Wolf. Rock is not about accolades or achieving posthumous recognition. EvH did what he needed to do, and that was plenty. He will be remembered. Seacrest out.
I don't know what to tell you: I sincerely believe what I saw during my life - whites screaming "That's not music" at party music - turned everything dark and that's what we have now.
Trying to praise your guitar heroes in light of that is just hollow - especially a guy who specifically said "white kids" mistreated him.
Ann Althouse said...
"I will be deleting soon, so you look now to see what will not be here in a moment."
I don't care., None of you ever do anything helpful. You don't anything helpful can be done. Lies don't matter, that's for sure. Support them as equal to everything else.
Ever-evolving chaos is all that's allowed.
I looked forward to reading the comment section on this post
Then I stopped
"I don't care., None of you ever do anything helpful...."
You seem to think I should spend my time not writing this blog but combing over it for comments that are out of line. I don't deserve that.
Cue Cellophane
Temujin said...
Hmmm. Imagine the Grammy's not getting it?
He's right, you know. His father was huge in the world of rock and the world of guitarists. Sorry, son. Cardi B had taken up the time we had masturbating on stage.
3/16/21, 6:08 AM
You seem to think that what Eddie did on stage could never be considered masturbation.
Ann Althouse said...
"I don't care., None of you ever do anything helpful...."
You seem to think I should spend my time not writing this blog but combing over it for comments that are out of line. I don't deserve that.
I don't deserve ST and Drago and Gahrie and Michael K and all these other assholes who forgot MLK demanded reparations but won't let me mention it without calling me a racist repeatedly.
You can't have it both ways.
Reparations are due - your hero MLK said so - so it's the content of YOUR character that's on the line when I'm attacked over it.
I did nothing wrong.
What music genre generates the most green? That's the only color that matters for the Grammys.
https://twitter.com/mikewarburton/status/1371510636920836097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1371510636920836097%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Face.mu.nu%2F387713
B/c it’s awesome
farmgirl... That's Showbusiness!
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A positive trend in this new century has been growing irrelevance of industry award shows. Like the Miss America pageant, they'll eventually be down scaled to reflect this cultural insignificance.
***Last Oscar party I went to was 1999. I can't remember who won what
Yep- and also a gift to a man who understands and appreciates being gifted!
It isn’t just his voice or skill- it’s his ear!! God bless an ear that can hear!
Follow up on last post, I couldn't recall who won or even who was nominated b for Oscars in 1999. Looked it up....what a list of mediocre movies/actors.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/71st_Academy_Awards
Eddie Van Halen was a 65-year-old man in a youth-obsessed field. Expecting more acknowledgement than what he received is unreasonable. Besides, there are going to be a ton of old rock musicians dropping dead in the years to come, and the Grammys don't want to set a precedent that turns future shows into a wake.
Quayle:
Zappa was definitely on point. Carlin was another great contemporary philosopher.
"The planet is fine. The people are fucked."
I'll give credit to the diverse people... persons who realize this and strive to improve our quality of life.
the Grammys don't want to set a precedent that turns future shows into a wake.
Woke... and drowsy.
Unfortunately Crack has become the new Chuck.
His posts used to be interesting, but now he’s just challenging everyone to a fight.
When you see he’s posting, you can quickly move on to something else.
I still like his music, though and will continue to check it out.
Kevin said...
His posts used to be interesting, but now he’s just challenging everyone to a fight.
Everyone who hides behind Dr. KIng, but if you mention anything he said except about the content of your character - like reparations - those same people will insist you're a racist.
And then one by one line up to black the only black guy here for everything you cause to happen with your numbers.
And then one by one line up to blame the only black guy here for everything you cause to happen with your numbers.
Nothing is worse than Chuck- honestly.
“If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else.”
I don’t believe reparations will all wounds heal- it’s blood money- if paid to people who value the almighty dollar over the blood, is that going to fix things?
I agree with Althouse. I watched the clip of Cardio B. and MTS and thought it was boring. Though I wouldn't show it to my kids, it wasn't really shocking. Not titillating either.
I'm guessing if Wolfgang had agreed he would have been featured more prominently.
https://youtu.be/f15HhiHQNpw
Be Best
"The sexuality of dancing is a given. If you're not making it sexy, you're not dancing. The only question is what level of subtlety to pick. But nothing is new."
I don't care what people do, but maybe not on network TV in prime time.
That's what is fairly new.
And unless there is pushback it will get more and more graphic...
I just now saw Crack's last comment about yoga from that thread yesterday. It's spectacular--it's got Nazi concentration camps!
It's also dee-licious. Like I'm going to take marital advice from a lifelong crybaby who couldn't keep his white woman.
But the best is the last few lines, which I suggest explains the problem:
Narr: I like what yoga and workouts do for my wife's health and sex-appeal.
Crack: Good for her (rolls eyes)
[No you motard--good for me. Good for US!]
Crack: I don't understand other people except as society-controlled NPCs.
That's it, folks, Crack is a solipsist at best and maybe a psycho.
Narr
It all makes sense now
Have the Lizzo gals do an interpretive dance to Eruption.
Bitter Clinger,
Now you have done it. You have started a Heisenberg event. If you had stayed quiet, Ann could have pretended that she did not see C's use of the n-word. Now that you have pointed it out, it makes it much harder for her to pretend. Especially since he used it in 2 different comments in a thread where she is participating herself.
But now, does she delete it because you questioned her apparent practice? If she leaves it up, she violates her stated policy and shows an peculiar favoritism. But if she takes it down, she looks like she is taking marching orders from you.
WWHD? (What would Heisenberg do?)
A similar situation happened Saturday where I raised the same question. Not only Crack's comment got disappeared, so did mine.
They didn't just get taken down with a marker saying "This comment removed by a blog administrator" they got completely Servicemastered. As if they never even happened.
I'm screenshotting the relevant comments, including yours and this one.
On second thought, perhaps it is less Heisenberg than Shrodinger I should be referencing.
John Henry
Ann, I know you shouldn't have to be a one-woman mopping-up operation here, but speaking as "the evil Michelle woman" here, may I ask that you please tell Crack that he is not welcome to use the n-word here, and that if he keeps on doing it he will be deleted wholesale? You have told us, repeatedly, that this would happen to anyone who used the word here, and he's been flinging it in your face like poo for days.
Everyone else but he who reads me knows that I am reasonable and polite. But, really, the last time I've seen threads get contaminated like this was on USENET, thirty years ago. It needs to stop.
I posted @1144 before reading the earlier comments--and there I was wondering is it was a fair intrusion on the thread.
Well I'll swan, as Granny used to say. (From 'swoon' maybe?)
Crackbaby thinks we're society-controlled NPCs. That's all of us.
Crackbaby likes to tell us all about his lifelong martyrdom at the hands of whites, but what he does here reminds me of an anecdote from about 1976 or so.
One of my friends was an early house-flipper here, renovating old houses in Midtown while living in them, and always at some point having a keg party. These were legendary for size, licit and illicit drug use and abuse, and general raucousness. The crowds were mostly but not solely white college students and graduate students, but not exclusively--we were white middle-class boomers who liked loud music.
Anyway, at one of the houses, as things started swinging about midnight and people were still coming and going, a young B/black passerby was invited to have some beer and hang out.
He partied with us for a while, drinking beer and smoking weed, flirting with the girls, just having fun and enjoying the scene from my friend's prized barber chair.
I was in an adjacent room when there was a hubbub and stir, and went in to see the guest pissing in the corner of the newly renovated room. A few of us bigger guys saw him out.
That's our Crackbaby.
Narr
I have no opinion on Van Halen and all that jazz
Crack, is there anyone here you do NOT think is a racist? Other than you and me of course.
Since you are happy to point out who is a racist, seems only fair to point out who is not so the racists can emulate them instead of continuing to wallow in their racism.
John Henry
Before the buds change in the trees, the sap rises and that's the maple sugar season. That's almost past but the sap is still rising invisibly. Winter kept us warm, feeding a little life with dried tubers, as they say. But March is cruelest month, stirring dull roots with spring pain. I'm not the Avenger, the Equalizer, Shane, John Wayne, Wonder Woman. I'm only Pauline, tied to the tracks and hearing the train whistle blow. I can only say, I'm hearing the train whistle blowing for Pauline; and then return in reality to contemplation of the snowdrops and daffodils as they unfold.
Everyone who hides behind Dr. KIng, but if you mention anything he said except about the content of your character - like reparations - those same people will insist you're a racist.
I think we're evolved enough to know we don't have to accept or reject the totality of a person's ideas based on just one of them.
Because that would make us Democrats.
I knew and worked with many of MLK's friends and associates, B/black and W/white; I worked with many top MLK scholars from around the world, and have written and presented on his work and death as a scholar and speaker myself.
He was, like all of us NPCs, also a DFC (deeply flawed critter), a great example of the truth that it's a good thing that our moral and ethical principles don't require those that espouse them to be perfect human beings themselves.
Narr
He also said that hate was a burden too heavy for him
stevew said...
Soft porn girl on girl style is just the thing to get that audience back.
Not when they're ugly.
And not when you look at them, and the first thing you think is "I wonder how many diseases I would catch from her if I had sex with her?"
Ann Althouse said...
"Masturbation on a stage-prop bed? Madonna did it in 1984. Video."
Which makes what happened unoriginal, boring, and repulsive.
Not clear why you consider that a defense.
I will note it's pleasant how fast the comments go by, when I can simply skip over anything from or to "Crack"
In MLK's "I have a Dream" speech, he gave a standard, a goal, an "this is what we want our society to be."
It was a goal that all decent people could share in:
https://www.naacp.org/i-have-a-dream-speech-full-march-on-washington/
So we’ve come here today to dramatize a shameful condition. In a sense we’ve come to our nation’s capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was the promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note in so far as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked “insufficient funds.”
But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so we have come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.
Not "reparations". Freedom. For all.
Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.
We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protests to degenerate into physical violence.
Hear that, Democrats? Here that, defenders of the "mostly peaceful" rioting scum?
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day down in Alabama — with its vicious racists, with its Governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification — one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
Crack, CRT supporters, and the Democrats have a nightmare. Their nightmare is that MLK's dream might come true
Saw Van Halen perform at the 1979 Texxas Jams in Dallas (June 9 show) and it was awesome. Also performing at the day-long event: TKO, Sammy Hagar, Nazareth, Boston, Heart and Blue Öyster Cult. Heart's set came later in the evening and was also incredible. I didn't smoke pot myself but picked up a buzz just sitting in the stands all day. Anyway, many of us do appreciate EVH.
No one with any sense will read through these comments, but I wanted to note that in our culture today, anyone who feels bad gets to dictate terms.
Ann, I finally went back and read through to your early masturbation-dancing comment, and thence to the article that was the source for the Nijinsky-in-Le-Sacre comment, and of course it wasn't the Rite of Spring at all, but Debussy's Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun. Which I already knew, having seen the Joffrey reconstructions of both ballets long ago, but I just wanted to check. Your source is perfectly clear; why did you pin this on Stravinsky and not Debussy? I'm honestly curious.
And, btw, if you think the Faun stroking his thighs with a scarf at the end of the Debussy was anything at all like what we have had to become accustomed to in 21st c. America, you're . . . what can I say? "Wrong"? You have to see it, Ann, the Joffrey reconstruction. Anything less like authentic-looking male masturbation I can hardly imagine. There are only a few instruments quietly playing; the Faun strokes himself, is all. He does not jack off, and of course he's silent. Leave Madonna and her lurid "Sex" book and all the rest of this trash out of it.
Narr said...
"Like I'm going to take marital advice from a lifelong crybaby who couldn't keep his white woman."
This is the same person who said they were asking personal questions out of sincere concern for me, yesterday, and heard I wasn't pining for my "white woman" but dealing with many other issues related to how it happened - and all that got reduced to today's reveal that Narr is just another white liar and a hypocrite. This is after I apologized for assuming Narr had bad intentions in asking.
But you guys don't understand why a black person would keep their guard up around white people.
Like asking ST to play music resulted in him betraying me - and hearing the word "black" spit so eloquently, and in a sustained fashion over days, in so many ways - and saying nice things to Michael K resulted in him calling me a liar. About my own experience. Because it doesn't fit the narrative in his head. Which is white. And apparently racist.
Based on this example, I don't think white people can be trusted.
Birches said...
"I agree with Althouse. I watched the clip of Cardio B. and MTS and thought it was boring."
I didn't watch it at all - still haven't. I remember Zappa telling Tipper Gore, and the world, they didn't have to be involved in all that - but they do it anyway - with nobody taking seriously what Zappa (or any other smart people) say, because otherwise we'd all be smart, and, clearly, there's only so much of that to go around. When was the last time you heard anyone quoting Christopher Hitchens since he died?
Not this nation of morons.
.
Narr said...
I just now saw Crack's last comment about yoga from that thread yesterday. It's spectacular--it's got Nazi concentration camps!
Yeah, I try not to do what Nazis did, as a matter of general principle.
I can see how white people here - who's ancestors did a lot of the same things to minorities - would find that strange.
Darkisland said...
Crack, is there anyone here you do NOT think is a racist? Other than you and me of course.
I said Zappa was God - y'all ignored it. I keep saying I'm addicted to Pitch Meetings - that stars a white guy who doesn't seem to be racist. I've mentioned Bill Burr, Daniel Tosh, Louis CK, and many others, but racists don't pay attention to what blacks say that breaks their narrative, so you guys have ignored whatever I say about whites that's good. You have your narrative and you're running with it.
I know how wonderful-ass white people in America "work".
Get a noose.
Kevin said...
"I think we're evolved enough to know we don't have to accept or reject the totality of a person's ideas based on just one of them."
Then why insist we read and worship Dr. King - without specifying which parts whites approve of?
And why do whites ONLY repeat the "content of our character" line - and nothing else?
You guys are liars and hypocrites.
Greg The Class Traitor said...
"Not "reparations". Freedom. For all."
Funny, but he thought different.
White people are delusional liars and hypocrites.
Silly man will be back, I gay-ron-tee.
Says he avoids doing stuff that Nazi did, on principle. I've studied the Nazis, and they also stood upright and breathed.
Says they used yoga to relax. They also drank, and partied. Not necessarily to Wagner, either; the popularity of "[redacted] musik" in the Turd Reich was a constant worry to Goebbels, and pale (ha) versions of jazz and swing had to be tolerated.
Says us NPCs never quote MLK except about character. Personally I don't think I have played that one--it gets aired all the time!--but I've paraphrased him about the burden of hate right here.
And yes, King's ultimate goal was much more radical than a lot of people are fully aware of, which does nothing to invalidate his actual accomplishments, his tactics or his successful appeal to stated American values.
Narr
Neanderthal Political Commissar
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