"... Billie Eilish was put in an impossible position... Awarded record of the year for 'Everything I Wanted'... Eilish could only gush over Megan Thee Stallion. 'This is really embarrassing for me,' Eilish, a white teenager who — like many in her generation and beyond — worships Black culture, said. 'You are a queen, I want to cry thinking about how much I love you.' She went on. It was uncomfortably reminiscent of Adele praising Beyoncé when '25' beat 'Lemonade' for album of the year in 2017... . Some online bristled at the performative white guilt on display, while others applauded Eilish’s apparently sincere fandom."
ADDED: I have saved a lot of time in life by never being interested in the Grammys. When I was young, in the 1960s, the Grammys didn't recognize the great music that I liked. They seemed irrelevant and archaic back then. I have spent some of my precious time caring about movie awards, but I guess that's not happening anymore, because the Oscar nominations just came out, and I don't care enough even to consider pushing myself to write something about it.
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Billie was desperately trying to fend off the attacks that will descend upon her.
Who even cares?
Pretty good for a teenager who knew she was being recorded.
What a load of garbage. One may hope this rapid escalation of the coarsening of the culture would be stopped, but it’s low IQ/WAP/look at my “privates” all the way down.
I'm so glad I do not care.
YOU own this shit, Democrats.
"Eilish, a white teenager who — like many in her generation and beyond — worships Black culture"
Why?
Of course, had Eillish written and recorded Savage herself she would probably be canceled. But then have more material from nightmares of suicide and death worthy of record of the year.
Some online bristled at the performative white guilt on display, while others applauded Eilish’s apparently sincere fandom."
Is the division between those who think it sincere and those who think it an act? Lots of serious artists admire and draw inspiration from less famous artists. Genius isn't always rewarded. Good for her if she is embarrassed that she beat someone she thinks is better than her, and doubly good for saying it out loud. If she's sincere.
Why? I know, what about polka?
Didn’t seem like many male artists participating this year.
More and more I believe that white people, in particular white women, build a defensive shell of cultish beliefs (e.g. that they come from a terrible, oppressive culture, the worst examples of which are white women aside from themselves). A shell that must be preserved and defended at all costs, no matter how absurd.
Building and maintaining this shell is called "doing the work."
(Ever talk to any Scientologists?)
Who won the most Grammies in 2008? Yeah, I don’t know either.
I remember back when people liked music because of how it sounded, rather than how it "looked."
I didn't know the Grammys were on until they were over, and so far, most of the news I've heard about the Grammy's is how racist the event is. The only winner I've been told about is the mention of Billie Eilish for Album of the Year, and apparently that is potentially racists too. Personally, I'm not impressed with Eilish singing ability and her songs seem more popular for their beat than the vocals.
I'd never heard of the horse performer; Megan Thee Stallion, so I looked her up. From DuckDuckGo's recap of Wikipedia:
Megan Jovon Ruth Pete, known professionally as Megan Thee Stallion, is a Grammy-award winning American rapper, singer, and songwriter. Originally from Houston, Texas, she first garnered attention when videos of her freestyling became popular on social media platforms such as Instagram.
Also seen on DuckDuckGo is Yahoo News headline: "Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion face criticism over 'inappropriate' and 'trashy' Grammy performances"
Is it appropriate for Yahoo News to refer to female performances as trashy? Or rather to quote others that call the performances trashy? I didn't click the click bait, but seeing the names together and knowing from Wikipedia that they collaborated to create "Wet Ass Pussy", maybe I shouldn't ask questions.
I think I made the right call to watch reruns on Food Network last night.
Don't people remember the "White Negro" anymore?
The whole "white people who worship black culture" thing is an old phenomenon.
Ellish didn't do enough to avoid cancellation. The only question is, was Ringo too cancel adjacent?
Ringo has aged well.
Damn! Were the Grammies on? I just HATE that I missed them.
Like the Golden Globes and like I will for the Oscars and....
But I am pleased as punch that there was another opportunity for guilt filled white girls to show how woke they are in 2021.
I haven't watched any of this, nor do I plan to. I've always maintained that in general award shows are extremely lame.
All that said, I'll just say I've seen Eilish in interviews and she always struch me as fairly earnist and nice, so I imagine she was sincere. But whatever. Celebrities have become so absurdly hyper-sensitive to cancel culture. So it's entirely possible that Eilish was simply terrified of being "cancelled", and of course the sociopaths of Twitter ended up attempting to cancel her anyway (which tells you pretty much everything you need to know about them).
I also hear that Bill Burr made some harmless joke that got him "cancelled" at that same show.
I still don't sense that we reached peak lunacy. But were getting there.
Passed. Pluto TV had Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.
I like how you can only see the middle finger of the peace sign on Ringo's shirt.
Ringo is 80.
Billie Eilish is an old soul and it comes through in her music. Good for her.
Girls, girls......all your music is equally horrible.
Slutty, vulger performances during prime time when kids are still up is Okay to the left, but BAN those Dr. Seuss books STAT. It was like watching stripper TV.
"Some online bristled at the performative white guilt on display"
Because there's no such thing as white guilt?
Or . . . cuz for progs no guilting performance is ever enough?
I just watched it -- ughs all around.
I spent the afternoon watching the Players golf tournament. Such classy gentlemen. Every. Single. One. I was in no mood for the Grammys
Ratings were down 50% from 2020's dismal numbers. Get woke, go broke!
I had it on in the background while I was doing other things. I haven't heard of most of them. Harry Stiles won an award - I had heard of him because my daughter was in the target age when One Direction was a thing. His acceptance speech was a slurred bunch of nonsense. I remarked to my wife that I wanted whatever he was on.
I took the liberty of looking up some of the lyrics of Megan Thee Stallion's songs. Incredibly profane garbage. Hope everyone is happy.
Judging from that brief sampling of nominees, the award should have gone to Auto-Tune.
CNN's review -
"Wow! Megan Thee Stallion and Cardi B brought the body to the Grammy Awards Sunday night.
Megan Thee Stallion, coming fresh off her win for best new artist earlier in the evening, took the stage and gave a jaw-dropping performance for her hit singles, "Savage" and "Body."
Then Cardi B performed her song "Up," alongside a giant stiletto. Just when you thought the heat was turned all the way up, the two artists performed their not-safe-for-work song, "WAP" on a super-sized bed.
They gloriously twerked and strutted and owned the stage in Barbarella-esque outfits, referencing female empowerment, sexual pride and delivering undoubtedly one of the most memorable Grammy performances of all time."
We haven't hit bottom yet, but we're getting there.
Not giving Record of the Year to Beyonce? Damn. The Grammys might be more based than I thought. You know that uppity jez is just pitching a fit whenever she's treated as something less than the Queen of All Music.
Don't get me wrong, my favorite hip hop of last year was Ben Shapiro trying to recite WAP. God bless that little fool. But some black men are gonna be really shocked when whites start openly treating their culture as debased and whorish, just because Cardi B and MTS are pushed in our face constantly as SBPL.
Then Cardi B performed her song "Up," alongside a giant stiletto. Just when you thought the heat was turned all the way up, the two artists performed their not-safe-for-work song, "WAP" on a super-sized bed.
It's on youtube. Commenter noticed pillows form a big ass pussy where they meet.Obvious when you see it. Good work by set designer.
Not wet though.
In the photos of Eilish that I've seen, which admittedly is not a lot, her eyes look like she is stoned.
I remember back when people liked music because of how it sounded, rather than how it "looked."
I remember thinking Rare Earth was a black group until I saw their album cover.
They were signed by Motown back when cultural appropriation was cool.
gspencer said...
"Eilish, a white teenager who — like many in her generation and beyond — worships Black culture"
Why?
My initial thought was, the culture of 70% of the children born into single parent households? Or the rampant black on black crime? Falling academic test scores? Racist and misogynistic rap lyrics?
Please tell me there is something in the culture that can conceivably generate some level of worship.
iowan2 said...
My initial thought was, the culture of 70% of the children born into single parent households? Or the rampant black on black crime? Falling academic test scores? Racist and misogynistic rap lyrics?
Please tell me there is something in the culture that can conceivably generate some level of worship.
3/15/21, 2:55 PM
People will worship a golden calf, if they're stupid enough and cut off from an actual religion.
I have never heard of Megan Three Stallion. But I would hate to have had to sit there while Billie Eilish (who I have heard of, but don't listen to) gushed all over me with her apology for winning an award that I had wanted to win. I really detest when people apologize over and over for things that are totally outside of their control. Billie Eilish could have expressed her huge love of Megan Three Stallion and her talent without apologizing for winning. I always think this type of gushing and apologizing comes off as condescending.
I haven't seen any of the movies nominated for Best Picture and same for the the top four acting roles.
The problem, of course, is that "Frankenstein, Part II" wasn't produced so it couldn't be nominated this year.
The only thing that keeps me going in trying to sell the script is how bad the movies that Hollywood does produce are compared to my work of unflinching and extraordinary genius.
We've reached the point where porn is less clichéd than Grammy performances.
In 1975, Rod Stewart went to Muscle Shoals to record with the same musicians that had helped create Aretha Franklin's "I Never Loved a Man" album.
He nearly walked out when he found that all the session musicians were white.
In 1975, Rod Stewart went to Muscle Shoals to record with the same musicians that had helped create Aretha Franklin's "I Never Loved a Man" album.
He nearly walked out when he found that all the session musicians were white.
Yeah. "Nearly" kinds removes the sting, don't it?
Biff said...
We've reached the point where porn is less clichéd than Grammy performances.
3/15/21, 3:02 PM
Porn has women you might conceivably want to lay down with. If the crackdown on PornHub was to get more people watching Hollywood dreck, that'd be a conspiracy I could understand.
I don't know who Billie Eilish is (since her name is really Billie Eilish Pirate Baird O'Connell, and who cannot even dress for a formal occasion), but I have never heard her sing the winning song (whatever the name of it happened to be). All I know is that she has an opinion about the "Song of the Year" which cannot be about obviously fake-named Megan The(e) Stallion (really named Megan Jovon Ruth Pete) who most certainly is not a song either and who wears costumes designed to expose her big butt.
So why wouldn't the song writer and the composer be given this award?
Can't we just cancel this unreasonable culture?
"who — like many in her generation and beyond — worships Black culture"
So, a RACIST then - someone who identifies and characterizes things by RACE. Whoodathunkit.
Who's next? Who will be NHRA's next first-time Pro national event winner?
Hosh Jart won Top Fuel in his debut at the Amalie Motor Oil NHRA Gatornationals, becoming NHRA’s most recent first-time Pro winner, and he could only gush over R.J. Dodd. 'This is really embarrassing for me,' Jart, a white male who — like many in his generation and beyond — worships car culture, said. 'You are a king, I want to cry thinking about how much I love you.'
Dr. Suess is offensive. cancel cancel.
Carbi B porn--> not. Healthy entertainment for the whole family.
The masks were very nice. Good to see the Covid being taken seriously. Some of those 22 spectators looked kind of virusy to me.
Bill Burr's wife is black - but that means he is a racist.
I never heard of this person. Why should I care?
And, why does Althouse waste time on this when so many important things she could be blogging about?
I don't watch this trash but happened to notice as I walked from the kitchen to our library because my wife had it on..this is disgusting,
Personally, I blame the parent(s)
I never followed the Emmys or the Grammies. Too many awards. An award for every occasion and every mood. I would, however, sometimes ogle the Grammy Award outfits in the next day's paper. The Grammy outfits were much more radical and there were lots of nipple slips. The attendees weren't as good looking as the Academy Awards crowd, but they tried harder....I don't much follow current music, but most of the people who buy the product are white. Blacks are over represented as creators of great music, but whites are the ones who fork over the money. Should the Grammies represent the creators or the consumers of the music and its awards.
I had no idea the Grammy ceremony was on the television. I'm not sure if I have ever actually watched one, honestly. They tend to be boring.
The truth about these award things is no matter what the original intent was, they quickly become corrupted by politics. Twenty years ago the politicking was more "inside baseball" if you will: unpopular people get snubbed, the voters frown upon certain types of music, movies, etc., you will vote for this label/production studio/etc. if you know what’s good for you, and the occasional bribery. For one example, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame had a major bias against the prog rock bands - this was admitted to people in the know - such that these bands are only getting inducted now. More germane, the Grammies had one of their most notable moments with the introduction of the Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental category in 1989. The voters were hostile to the entire concept of the category, so the winner was Jethro Tull despite (a) Jethro Tull not being a hard rock or metal band by their own admission, (b) Jethro Tull being well past their prime compared to the other nominees, and (c) the band not even attending since they were quite certain that they would never win. (The members of Jethro Tull ended up being thankful that they did not show up, given when they were announced as the winners the audience booed.)
However, as all things that at least tangentially related to Spinal Tap, it eventually goes to 11. Now the standard politicking has been replaced with POLITICKING!!! where the quality of the music is barely relevant. It’s pretty much woke fanatics, their corporate overlords, and the docile sheep picking winners for “reasons” that no one really cares about other than themselves. It is pretty much the definition of “who cares?” for anyone not in the circle.
Daniel Tosh said he worships black people because we're better than whites at everything - which makes the fact whites were able to enslave us kinda cool.
Y'all are suffering from not knowing how to finesse race.
Mad as Hell, Aretha couldn't abide the muscle Shoals crew on that tune. Wanted to leave.
If you get the chance to see the ALL Star Band w/Ringo live, take it. Wonderful performances and all round positive concert. You'll be singing along, cause they're all just having fun!
Hah. I like early Tull a lot, but was embarrassed at that R&RHOF fiasco; and that's all I can recall about entertainment awards ceremonies.
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The horror! The horror!
Crack, I'm glad you showed up, because I wanted to clarify something:
The Grammys are crashing mostly because the organizers do wildly inappropriate things like have two fat jezzies openly scissor each other. Porn is completely wrong for broadcast prime time. When it's two women who NO ONE wants to bang, it's totally disgusting! The next time you want to get up on your horse about how great black culture is, realize that most whites find watching these trashy whores to be absolutely REPULSIVE, and they absolutely look down on you for it.
Please tell me there is something in the culture that can conceivably generate some level of worship.
Blues, jazz, R&B, soul, rock, funk, and hip-hop.
I have saved a lot of time in life by never being interested in the Grammys.
I was never interested in the nominations or the awards, but I used to watch regularly to see the performances. It's been several years since I last sat through a telecast.
Some online bristled at the performative white guilt on display, while others applauded Eilish’s apparently sincere fandom.
She does not want to be put through the Taylor Swift treatment. A few years back people stated noticing that Taylor Swift was white, had white friends, and a white fanbase. Clearly, a sign of evil. That was when we started getting articles like "The Unbearable White Womanhood Of Taylor Swift", "The Oppressive Whiteness of Taylor Swift's 'Wildest Dreams'", "Of Folk Songs and Feral Children: Taylor Swift's White Settler Womanhood," and "5 Reasons I Can't Love Taylor Swift Anymore," which including "Her Music Videos Are Full Of Cultural Appropriation, She Constantly Displays White Feminism, Her Use Of "Squad" Is Also Cultural Appropriation, And The Demographics Of Her "Squad" Are Problematic, and She Refuses To Acknowledge Her Privilege."
From late last year was this article in Variety: "In a Post-‘Urban’ World, Why Is the Grammys’ 2021 Album of the Year Category Whiter Than Usual?"
Anti-racism is anti-whiteness. It's a religion that requires regular devotions at the altar of negrophilia.
We haven't hit bottom yet, but we're getting there.
I violently disagree. Plenty be hittin’ those bottoms 24x7x365.
All that skin, cleavage and twerking... and the winner is wearing a muumuu?
NY State and NYC are moving toward refusing to prosecute black violence against whites and Asians.
Simultaneously trying to make it illegal to defend your home with a gun.
A lot worse than twerking is on hand.
I see that the Emperor of Wakanda has not entirely taken over this thread.
How much longer can the prof let this evil psychotic continue to commandeer her blog with his ranting?
If you get the chance to see the ALL Star Band w/Ringo live, take it. Wonderful performances and all round positive concert. You'll be singing along, cause they're all just having fun!
Indeed! Saw him with the band on their 2017 tour... Todd Rundgren, Greg Rolie, dude from Mr.Mister... Steve Lukather... a few others, it was a lot of fun, a good time.
And shouldn’t it be Megan teh Mare? Just sayin...
doctrev said...
"Crack,...The next time you want to get up on your horse about how great black culture is, realize that most whites find watching these trashy whores to be absolutely REPULSIVE, and they absolutely look down on you for it."
And the next time you decide to blame blacks for shit, remember white people attacked Rap right out of the box as NOT MUSIC - so they created the hostility in what was party music like "Rapper's Delight" - just as they've created cancel culture by being so stubborn after the 2012 Republican autopsy told them they're racists.
No angry white guys - no reason for Public Enemy or the nigga you loved to hate.
You guys are just awful, and then you blame others for the results of your awfulness.
One Grammy’s I remember was around 1980 when Christopher Cross accepted an award and did dat boy have a BAD case of cocaine eyes... he out Ozzy’d Ozzy.
Professor, when are you going to do something about the ranting of this psychotic black racist thug?
We're rebelling against YOU - maybe you should try being nicer to your fellow Americans without making everybody kiss your ass - you got a lame culture without us, y'know.
Crack, you’re a psychotic racist thug.
A fucking moron, too.
Take your fucking black racist ranting and shove it up your ass.
I’m so sorry I’m so good at what I do. Damn me. And damn all people like me- talented and all.
Folks oughtta try a little harder to get along and treat other people decently. Golden Rule... it ain’t that hard to do.
Fuck that, Iman.
This fucking black racist thug has been trash talking a steady stream of psychotic lunacy for several days now.
Another commenter puts his finger on it. This is meth or amphetamine ranting.
The Crack Emcee said...
No angry white guys
3/15/21, 4:44 PM
I'm not white. Maybe Megan Thee Stallion would be something you'd let kids watch, but others have stricter standards.
BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...
Bill Burr's wife is black - but that means he is a racist.
A-HA!
They, the blue check mark brigade, got you covered:
Clayburn Griffin
@Clayburn
While I'm not suggesting Bill Burr is a racist, a white man having a non-white wife can sometimes be a sign of racism. So you shouldn't assume someone isn't racist just because they own a minority sex servant. They may very well have one because they're racist.
9:14 PM · Mar 14, 2021
Shouting Thomas said...
Fuck that, Iman.
This fucking black racist thug has been trash talking a steady stream of psychotic lunacy for several days now.
Another commenter puts his finger on it. This is meth or amphetamine ranting.
What? you don't know why Crack Emcee adopted the title? According to a published story, he and friends smoking crack cocaine and Crack would entertain with good stuff, and the name popped up and stuck.
Apparently tales of crack being immediately 100% addictive right up there with LSD making you fly out the window. Not gonna test the theory.
Shouldn't they just have uploaded the show to PornHub?
I saw a couple of clips that Ace linked to.
JFC, the coarsening of our 'culture' is almost complete.
Next year you'll have the performers pissing on each other in prime time.
Hollywood and the music business in general are cesspools.
This is the stuff that's allowed on public airways?
I'm not a prude at all, but there is a time and a place for soft core porn lesbian sex shows and the Grammy's shouldn't be it.
Our country is turning to shit before our eyes...
Shouting Thomas and Crack are among those on this blog who love music most. They are sensitive artistic types. Everything they care most about is the same - except the type of music. And when music is done "wrong," it's intolerable - to both of them.
"Daniel Tosh says he worships black people because they're better at everything . . . "
Especially the buttsex he likes so much.
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I love the guy's shows, but I don't take the opinions of twinks seriously. Except about buttsex.
And I wouldn't be surprised to find that Shouting Thomas and Crack both hated the Emmy's equally strongly but are determined to place the blame in opposite directions.
Seems highly appropriate... https://youtu.be/DMzoqpyUbhg
I read "Granny's Ceremony".
I have spent some of my precious time caring about movie awards, but I guess that's not happening anymore, because the Oscar nominations just came out, and I don't care enough even to consider pushing myself to write something about it.
Well, it won’t improve your interest, Althouse, but over in France, at their equivalent movie awards ceremony, an actress chose to protest the government by coming onstage in the nude. This would certainly get more of us men watching the Oscars if some of our American actresses would promise to do the same.
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
Daniel Tosh said he worships black people because we're better than whites at everything - which makes the fact whites were able to enslave us kinda cool.
Y'all are suffering from not knowing how to finesse race
Nope! Your African ancestors were enslaved by OTHER blacks! White people just provided a customer base for the slave market.
I didn't watch (might have, but didn't know, and I live in LA!), but just got an email from the LA Times captioned, "Relive the best Grammys in memory." So there's that.
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
We're rebelling against YOU - maybe you should try being nicer to your fellow Americans without making everybody kiss your ass - you got a lame culture without us, y'know.
3/15/21, 4:45 PM
Hang in there, Crack! You don't have to kiss my ass as long as I don't have to kiss yours.)))
wildswan,
Shouting Thomas and Crack are among those on this blog who love music most.
I know. I love music too, though I don't write about it so much -- not here, anyway. But the Grammys have almost nothing to do with "music" any more, because so much is spectacle instead. And such spectacle! You might easily watch the show with the sound off, and not miss very much. And what you would missed would half the time need to be bleeped out for those with sensitive ears -- say, under 30. (Nah, who am I kidding? It's the tweens who love WAP and its ilk.)
Every year, I read the whole Grammy list, and at the very bottom are the classical awards. Even this year, there was some, shall I say, careful decision-making. The chamber award went to the Pacifica Quartet, for a disc of three contemporary female composers, including a work for quartet and alto saxophone. The solo instrumental went to Richard O'Neill (violist; despite the name, he's half-Korean) for a piece whose first movement has a title involving a "black dancer." (There's a violin concerto on the disc, too, played by Chee-Yun, another Korean, but it didn't have the evocative movement titles, so the Grammy was O'Neill's. ) The orchestral went to a recording of Shosty 13, "Babi Yar." If there was any recording that wasn't "new" or "innovative" or "intersectional" or "cross-cultural" or "groundbreaking," I missed it.
"Well, it won’t improve your interest, Althouse, but over in France, at their equivalent movie awards ceremony, an actress chose to protest the government by coming onstage in the nude. This would certainly get more of us men watching the Oscars if some of our American actresses would promise to do the same."
Hope to hell Betty White doesn't get any ideas...
"Please tell me there is something in the culture that can conceivably generate some level of worship."
I remember learning about the photo of rap and hip hop musicians taken in the same exact place as a famous photo of jazz musicians in Harlem. Take a look. It's enough to make you weep. And that was more than twenty years ago (1998). The decline has only gotten worse.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Great_Day_in_Harlem_(photograph)
https://www.gordonparksfoundation.org/education/articles/a-great-day-in-hip-hop
Just in case I wasn't clear, there was plenty to celebrate in black culture many years ago. But I doubt that the article was referring to the worship of Louis Armstrong or John Coltrane.
One of the paradoxes of the 20th C was that the most exportable products of American popular culture--the music, fashion, and dance styles--were very largely straight or appropriated African-American. Thus the "most imitated man in the world." (I use appropriation descriptively, not pejoratively: appropriation of cultural goods is what makes history.)
It's no wonder the rest of the world sees the US through a racial lens, however scarred or distorted that lens may be.
The situation parallels in some ways what happened in Europe after the Jews were given citizenship in all the places that wanted to be modern. Very quickly a lot of pent-up talent, creativity, and ambition was loosed on the world, and in some areas the newcomers quickly started to set the pace.
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Going to later threads
That didn't take long. Especially when I note the 522pm time of Prof's sunrise smorgasbord,
and this fits here.
Tucker showed some of the Grammy show. Now I like some booty as much as the next guy (cleft of ages, rock for me) but, no.
A friend of mine was a paper-shuffler in the state prisons, both male and female. Sometimes his workplace was just off the cells, and he said he hadn't lived until he heard a couple of 250 lb B/black lesbians going at it.
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Now we can all enjoy it!
FullMoon said...
"What? you don't know why Crack Emcee adopted the title? According to a published story, he and friends smoking crack cocaine and Crack would entertain with good stuff, and the name popped up and stuck."
That's the legend - not the truth.
"Apparently tales of crack being immediately 100% addictive right up there with LSD making you fly out the window. Not gonna test the theory."
They're lies, but I've seen some wild reactions to it.
wildswan said...
Shouting Thomas and Crack are among those on this blog who love music most. They are sensitive artistic types. Everything they care most about is the same - except the type of music. And when music is done "wrong," it's intolerable - to both of them.
"There's only two types of music: good and bad."
- Louis Armstrong
wildswan said...
And I wouldn't be surprised to find that Shouting Thomas and Crack both hated the Emmy's equally strongly but are determined to place the blame in opposite directions.
I wouldn't dare watch that monstrosity. Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes is my deal.
Oso Negro said...
"Nope! Your African ancestors were enslaved by OTHER blacks! White people just provided a customer base for the slave market."
I like how you guys will see that ignorance, on my part, and still insist you've educated blacks sufficiently on everything. And you never correct gently - it's always with a tone that screams GOT YOU, YOU IGNORANT NIGGER WE DIDN'T EDUCATE - WE DIDN'T DO IT ALL!!! FOOLED YOU!!!
White people are just WRONG.
@The Crack Emcee:
I like how you guys will see that ignorance, on my part, and still insist you've educated blacks sufficiently on everything. And you never correct gently - it's always with a tone that screams GOT YOU, YOU IGNORANT NIGGER WE DIDN'T EDUCATE - WE DIDN'T DO IT ALL!!! FOOLED YOU!!!
Sur
White people are just WRONG.
I actually agree that a lot on the right are not good at talking about race. Often it is merely the result of adopting the opposite view of the left. If they say everything is about race, we'll say nothing is about race. And sure, the Deplorables can say a lot stupid shit about race. But conflict between the white and black working classes is futile. The problems of the white working-class are not caused by blacks and immigrants, and the problems of the black working-class are not caused by white conservative racism. Both groups have been harmed by a set of policies that systemically disadvantage the working class in favor of the professional class.
The black and white working classes are actually converging. While blacks and Hispanics have show improvement relative to other groups, the white working-class has actually regressed. The racial gap among the working classes is narrowing whole the gap among the professional classes is widening. Over the same time period, the white working-class has been called deplorable, white supremacist, and white privileged. Read Jim Goad's 1998 book The Hillbilly Manifesto. Class, not race, is the most salient issue.
Redneck Manifesto, by Jim Goad, not Hillbily--that's Vance.
Goad is excellent; I haven't gotten around to Vance.
Goad's life would make an interesting movie ;-)
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Two differnt guys
'Hillbily' is a msitake.
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'differnt' ain't
Ringo's older then Biden by a couple of years, and yet he's light years ahead of Biden when it comes to intellectual heft.
I guess if your guy won the Nobel Prize, you really don't have to bother with the Grammys.
When I might have been interested in the Grammys, the Top 40 stuff that was the only music I knew didn't get nominated. It was usually some dinosaurs from the Sixties.
Also, the music business is more insular than film or television. There were a lot of acts that I'd never heard of, and there are even more now. If you're growing up you have a good idea of what's on TV and what's playing at the movies (or you did before they started putting out the Oscar contenders at the tail end of the year). But if you didn't hear music on the radio, you'd have to buy the album, and that seemed like a waste of time and money.
Anyway, the Grammys are dead to me since they killed off the Polka award.
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