The issues Trump’s campaign and its allies have pointed to are typical in every election: Problems with signatures, secrecy envelopes and postal marks on mail-in ballots, as well as the potential for a small number of ballots miscast or lost. But they’ve also requested federal probes into the claims....Barr didn’t name [Sidney] Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.
December 1, 2020
"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election" — said Attorney General William Barr.
Speaking to AP News.
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If I see a fellow selling high end stereo equipment out of the back of a van, I might assume that it's stolen goods even though I have no actual proof beyond my supposition. And if the authorities refuse to investigate this fellow for whatever reason, does that mean that no crime occurred?
Then Barr is an idiot--or complicit.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of Absence
It's like the FBI announcing a beheading isn't terrorism, ten minutes after the body is found. Even if he shouted Allah Akbar!
Trump has already accused DOJ of being part of the fraud. Why hasnt he fired Barr yet?
And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.
And I'm sure they looked, really, really hard.
"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
As proven by the ardent Trump-love of so many duped Americans.
"Then Barr is an idiot--or complicit."
So true!
Trump can never fail! He can only be failed by others, (all losers)!
"THOUSANDS of fake votes found at Wisconsin Recount in Dane County."
Maybe Barr is tired of having to explain or defend one outlandish conspiracy theory after another and is trying to save what is left of his reputation.
DOJ stopped pursuing all the cases involving Democrats and the Russia! coup plot. They want to stay employed if the Left's Coup succeeds.
Watch Scott Adams’ Periscope on YouTube today.
Absolutely stunning.
The Dominion software cannot be audited! Really!
We have no way to know what happened in this election.
Watch the YouTube video of vote counters confessing the fraud conducted in their workplaces.
Democrat County vote counters destroyed the signed and numbered envelopes because of global warming concern. Recycle. Shred. Cremate.
Barr: "DHS and DOJ have looked into that"
Oh...at speed they work, a couple years premature...not to mention conflict of interest.
Adams solution to this outrageous incompetence on all sides is hard to swallow.
I’m a retired programmer, so I know just how astonishing this failure to establish this audit function is in such a comprehensive and important program, but the reality is that both Republican and Democratic governors allowed this to happen.
I’m still struggling to believe that something this outrageously stupid could have happened on this scale. We literally have no way to verify the outcome of this election. As Adams says, we can’t even say for certain that an election took place.
Adams recommends that we just go with Biden to avoid burning the country down. The election can’t be redone. So, swallow hard, allow Biden to take office, and make sure that this level of incredible incompetence never happens again.
The fat lady just sang.
Overturning an election is a very serious step that no court or legislature will take lightly. Red flags are a starting point for investigation, not a conclusion. So there's lots of red flags and lots of accusations built around those red flags, but there needs to be actual hard evidence to stop Biden's inauguration. That could still happen, but it hasn't yet.
We can't dismiss Barr's opinion just because we don't like it. Everyone here knows he voted for Trump.
Unknown said...
"Then Barr is an idiot--or complicit."
So true!
Trump can never fail! He can only be failed by others, (all losers)!
Losers and haters.
Suckers and losers.
"...[T]here will be a lot of things happening between now and the 20 of January - a lot of things." And with that, Donald Trump was unquestionably correct. It's just that none of them will be leading to his inauguration on that date.
This is all better than I had imagined. Much better than I had hoped. The sheer lunacy of the post-election wallowing. How Trump is driving himself directly out of the Republican Party and into a new pure-conspiracy Trump Party. Shameless and completely psychotic.
In other - and far more substantive news from Catherine Herridge. . . .
Order Establishing Special Counsel. Language matters. Criminal. Scope FBI + Mueller team "The Special Counsel is authorized to investigate whether any federal official, employee, or any other person or entity violated the law in connection with the intelligence, + counter-intel, or law-enforcement activities directed at the 2016 presidential campaigns, individuals associated with those campaigns + individuals associated with (Trump) administration including but not limited to Crossfire Hurricane” + Special Counsel Mueller
Emphasis: Special Counsel Mueller
The investigation will continue under the incoming administration.
they spent two years before they indicted concord catering, that turns out they had made some serious errors that the attorney, who was a veteran of the sdny and the sdfl, was able to spot,
If they were really trying to persuade the public that this election was real and not a lie, they would do many things that have not been done. One of which would be to go through and address each of the many pieces of evidence that have accumulated that this election was fraudulent.
But then that's not the point of this exercise. This election has always been a brazen, contemptuous farce. It has always been about kicking people in the face that believe in democracy, honesty, and fair play.
I don't know who is running things -- it certainly isn't Joe Biden -- but I fear it's our deep state.
Really, both sides in the comment section are talking bullshit.
Unless you understand the impact of the failure to establish an audit function is, you’re just talking crap.
This isn’t a partisan issue. The entire election is absolutely, hopelessly and irredeemably fucked, and I don’t mean in favor of one candidate or the other.
Honest elections should be everyone's number 1 concern. Democracy depends on it. Cheaters must be prosecuted.
Sorry Tim.
He's been a blusterbuss regarding his main mission.
Now he's using the "widespread" canard.
with the cisa advisory board including krebs, and the official that signed off on the dominion machine acquisitions,
Of course when you don't want to see something, averting your eyes is a proven method.
Barr's a part of the swamp.
The election can’t be redone. So, swallow hard, allow Biden to take office, and make sure that this level of incredible incompetence never happens again.
You're kidding, right ?
"We can't dismiss Barr's opinion just because we don't like it. Everyone here knows he voted for Trump."
I don't know that.
He slow-rolled the Russia Hoax investigations so that they will conveniently disappear in a month without a ripple in the water: Biden winning makes it easier on him to go along/get along.
I am Laslo.
I'd be interested in a legal opinion on how statistical evidence is handled.
Statistically there multiple indicators of greater than 3 sigma activity including turnout levels in democratically controlled precincts, the bell-weather counties, the sharp increase in no down ballot votes only in swing states, the changes in rejection rates for mail in ballots, outliers in gaussian distributions of precinct data, and comparisons to Obama and Hillary past performance. If the numerical ones of these were all truncated to a three sigma variation favor of Biden instead of the current high sigma variant, it would mean a Trump victory. Down ballot voting alone might do it.
From a mathematician point of view these are definite indicators that sometime is badly amiss but they seem to be ignored from a lawyer's point of view. If this were a published study on anything else, it would fail all reviews. It seems to me that Lawyers only can work from bottom's up to prove a case.
An interesting look at the election was provided by Monster Hunter Nation who asked fraud investigators their opinions on the election. Their answer was a resounding," Hell yes something in wrong."
The entire election is absolutely, hopelessly and irredeemably fucked
Yes, but it was absolutely, hopelessly and irredeemably fucked in favour of the good guys, so it's OK.
Actually, why are they even talking to Barr? The only people who count here are the swing state legislatures and the Supreme Court.
Shouting Thomas said...
Really, both sides in the comment section are talking bullshit.
Unless you understand the impact of the failure to establish an audit function is, you’re just talking crap.
This isn’t a partisan issue. The entire election is absolutely, hopelessly and irredeemably fucked, and I don’t mean in favor of one candidate or the other.
It is
fp = fopen(*FILENAME){...}
fprintf(fp, "ballot#, {votes}, time date stamp");
fclose(fp);
to create and add to an audit log.
The only reason not to do this on an electronic voting machine is to commit fraud.
All I got out of this news is, if Barr is telling the truth, the cheaters were very good at what they did.
I will never believe, knowing the voting patterns that we know, that Biden won the presidency based on 5 or 6 urban areas alone...
#notmypresident #resistagain
Hillary’s Revenge.
This isn’t a partisan issue. The entire election is absolutely, hopelessly and irredeemably fucked, and I don’t mean in favor of one candidate or the other.
Now, I know you are kidding. Partisan ?
Have you ever heard of the "Bloody Eighth" in Indiana 1984?
In the ’84 contest, one of the closest congressional races in history, McIntyre, 30, and McCloskey, 47, ended up in a virtual tie that came down to whether a handful of ballots would be validated by election officials. McIntyre was first declared the winner by Indiana’s Republican secretary of state, but Democrats cried foul and the Democratically controlled U.S. House refused to seat him.
For a time, both McIntyre and McCloskey drew congressional pay, but neither was officially seated. Finally, after months of ballot recounts, the House voted in May, 1985, to declare McCloskey the winner by four votes out of 233,000 cast, approving the recommendation of a Democratically controlled House task force sent to Indiana to count the ballots.
Republicans were outraged by what they claimed was the theft of the seat, and the GOP House delegation walked out of the Capitol when McCloskey was finally seated.
You don't know Partisan until you deal with Democrats.
I don’t like Adams’ suggested solution.
It boils down to this. We know BLM and Antifa, the Democrats’ storm troopers, will burn our cities down if the results are overturned, so we have no choice but go allow Biden to take office.
He’s right about what would happen.
The Democrats have successfully blackmailed us in to a corner, as they intended.
"So, swallow hard, allow Biden to take office, and make sure that this level of incredible incompetence never happens again."
If you could trust the Democrats to do what's best of the country, that would arguably be a reasonable approach. But history shows that all they care about are the Democrats getting/keeping power. Just like when the Republicans go along with a "one-time amnesty" for immigrants, with the promise of the Democrats to fix the immigration issues ...
"Yes, but it was absolutely, hopelessly and irredeemably fucked in favour of the good guys, so it's OK."
There were no good guys in this election.
Shouting Thomas said...
Adams recommends that we just go with Biden to avoid burning the country down. The election can’t be redone. So, swallow hard, allow Biden to take office, and make sure that this level of incredible incompetence never happens again.
Now we are a subject population, not a a country of citizens.
We are subjects of a hostile regime that has violently attacked us for 5 years.
We will act as such.
I sure don't know what Barr is doing but it resembles the GOPe.
The most important part of Barr's statement is "on a scale that could have affected a different outcome."
But of course, the media is focusing on "we have not seen fraud," and simply ending there.
Shouting Thomas said...
I don’t like Adams’ suggested solution.
It boils down to this. We know BLM and Antifa, the Democrats’ storm troopers, will burn our cities down if the results are overturned, so we have no choice but go allow Biden to take office.
He’s right about what would happen.
The Democrats have successfully blackmailed us in to a corner, as they intended.
Violence is rewarded with political power.
We will all react rationally and in our best interests.
Just as rationally as BLM and Antifa.
Right below this comment text box is a statement about "Anonymous Comments." There certainly are quite a number of anonymous trolls posting.
You'd think that a supposedly Republican person such as Chuck claims to be would be alarmed at Democrat vote fraud on a scale that would prevent any Republican from ever winning.
But then, come to think of it, Chuck hasn't claimed to be a Republican for a while, has he?
He would join Inga on the front lines at the concentration camps, pulling the "Zylon B" lever for every Trump voter if he could. We all know it.
More broadly speaking, the sheer hatred coming from leftists generally is appalling. My local paper, in their story about the Supreme Court slapping down Cuomo's religious bigotry, is filled with leftists who are openly saying that as long as you can say a prayer in your basement you have all the freedom of religion and worship you need--and that government can ban anything more than that. The hatred, derision, and animus is astounding. It's like reading Inga when she talks about killing Republicans.
how did he conclude that, he didn't even have a press conference,
It is a total mystery why Dominion Voting Machines do not produce simple audit logs:
Stenstrom says that in Delaware County he “witnessed unsupervised access by a vendor representing Dominion during which the vendor apparently violated election system certification protocols and inserted jump drives to download and update the aggregation machines counting the vote.”
Stenstrom says that he witnessed election officials violating protocols by breaking the seal on the machine jump drives and comingling them. He believes that this reflects an intentional effort to prevent audits to accurately determine the count.
“This conduct as well violates certification protocols. This evidence joins evidence from Georgia indicating a dominion vendor actually removed the hard drive from an aggregator and took it home with him, thus breaking the chain of custody and undermining the integrity of the count,” Amistad Project said.
Wow, man. The conspiracy just goes deeper and deeper. I bet Barr is a sleeper agent. Many years ago, the High Council of Liberals and Communists foresaw that Donald Trump would win reelection in a landslide in 2020, so they trained Barr for just this moment. It's been a front this whole time!
his replacement as head of the political crimes division, was no better than the predecessor, they were also partial to the persecuting of the tea party, and steve stockman, a case sidney powell notes in her book, can you feed the crocodile enough chum to save yourself,
Carolyn Glick brings up the case of Colonel Larry Franklin, the DIA official, that warned of iranian infiltration, and was persecuted by Mueller's bureau, and he's broke and unemployable,
I've made a lot of comments the last few weeks about the tactic the Left used - McCarthyism - to infiltrate every institution in the country. The tactic will win 100% political control of an institution in a single generation, and they've been doing it for 3, with absolutely no resistance because the Left spent the entire time screaming that McCarthyism was the worst thing ever in history, and surely they wouldn't be such hypocrites.
This is the result, where every single person someone like Trump even has to choose from for positions like the USSC or AG is at least 90% chance of being compromised.
And that there are NO good "rank and file" members of the FBI and DOJ. Even conservatives have bought that con. It's bullshit. Every single last agent of these departments was chosen by their superiors for a single quality: whether or not they would prosecute important leftist crimes, whether by loyalty or blackmail.
The Republican Party *might* be slightly less infiltrated than the FBI, but not by much. Perhaps only 90%. I'm probably being optimistic.
Anyone believe me now? Has a single thing come out of the DOJ or FBI or the GOPe in the last, hell, 30 years that amounts to evidence the extent of the infiltration?
RMc said...
The entire election is absolutely, hopelessly and irredeemably fucked
Yes, but it was absolutely, hopelessly and irredeemably fucked in favour of the good guys, so it's OK.
Actually, why are they even talking to Barr? The only people who count here are the swing state legislatures and the Supreme Court.
********
If Trump ultimately prevails in even one Supreme Court case, Barr's reputation will rightly be shattered-----even if Trump doesn't get the necessary Electoral College total.
And has Rudy has pointed out, there's no evidence that the DOJ has investigated anything regarding the election.
Last sentence should have ended "...that I am alleging is overstated"?
There is no draining the swamp without bringing down and recreating every institution with firm guards against future leftist infiltration. Otherwise, we are Venezuela.
she's also detailed the campaign against netanyahu, using the lawfare and the judges
http://carolineglick.com/a-call-for-late-justice-for-col-larry-franklin/
As Kathryn noted @2:41, Barr also noted that Dunham is now a Special Counsel. That's good news, except that it isn't news. That occurred on October 16th, except no one mentioned it at the time. If a Russian agent had asked that the news be kept quiet, that would be considered an event that affected the outcome of the election, but if our own government hides this information; it is just a few seconds in a news cycle.
Some fun in store @7PM EASTERN!
https://notthebee.com/article/-project-veritas-has-been-listening-in-on-internal-cnn-calls-and-is-about-to-release-the-recordings-tonight
Grammar nitpick: It should be "effected a different outcome" or "affected the outcome".
I'll add another: #notmypasteeater
Blogger narciso said...
she's also detailed the campaign against netanyahu, using the lawfare and the judges
Oh yeah, that was as as phony as Russia Hoax.
As we learned in Washington state in 2004, it's obvious fraud occurred. Counting more ballots (as happened in certain precincts in King County) than registered voters is a sure indicator.
The problem is proving how it happened. The left knows this. And that's why they do it.
So, they've chosen to throw out the ballot box. Three guesses as to what comes next.
Did Barr imply they looked into the machine issue? That means they have some machines, right?
A Nevada judge has commanded the voting machines be turned over to the Trump attorneys for analysis.
That will be very interesting, indeed.
Meanwhile in Georgia the machines may or may not be destroyed before the plaintiffs are allowed a look.
Is Sidney Powell bi-polar?
“Did Barr imply they looked into the machine issue? That means they have some machines, right?”
This retired three-star falsely claims US soldiers died attacking a CIA facility in Germany tied to election fraud
Speaking of Dominion and fraud and crazy conspiracy theories, Barr may be trying to distance himself from this sort of nuttiness.
Jenna Ellis begs to differ:
https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1333863535538032650
You can sweep the dead fish under the rug, but it still stinks. That describes this election to a T.
Inga, you are so fucking batshit crazy.
You spent years on this board promoting the Russia collusion hoax.
How do you continue to show your face here? Are you capable of embarrassment?
Blogger Qwinn said...
I've made a lot of comments the last few weeks about the tactic the Left used - McCarthyism - to infiltrate every institution in the country. The tactic will win 100% political control of an institution
I agree with 100% of what you say in this comment except:
McCarthyism?
that's a word I see bandied about frequently and I never have any idea what it means.
What did Senator Joe McCarthy do? He investigated government employees who held security clearances, many at the very tip-toppiest level.
In all, as far as I can tell, quite rightly. We have since found that most, (All? Anyone have any names that were not?) were real, actual, security risks who should never have gotten clearances.
Perhaps another word would work better in your comment.
John Henry
Barr gave up the fight a while ago. He's old and has tired of the constant battle. I believe he was sincere in his hope to at least marginally turn the DOJ in the direction of the angels but saw the task was beyond his abilities and energy.
Trump, otoh, has energy enough for all but he doesn't- or at least didn't- know how wins are constructed, not calculated, in DC. Guile and imperceptible deceit were your best friends in ugly Hollywood. That town is gone.
I’m a retired programmer, so I know just how astonishing this failure to establish this audit function is in such a comprehensive and important program, but the reality is that both Republican and Democratic governors allowed this to happen.
All it would take is for a small number of governors to get the Dominion machines, then more would have gotten them because they assumed the first group researched it and knew what they were doing. You know how unlikely it was that any of them had any clue.
John Henry, sorry, I've made that point clear in my previous posts. For this purpose I define McCarthyism as merely the act of hiring and firing based on political viewpoint. Leftists spent the last 70 years raging that the "Hollywood Blacklist" was the worst thing ever... and then spent the next 70 years almost completely blacklisting any conservative in Hollywood.
Same with academia, lawyers guilds, HR departments, whatever. If there's 9 people on a hiring committee, and only 2 are communists, but the 7 non communists hire based on merit only and the 2 communists propose and vote only for other communists, within a few years they'll increase their number to 3. Then 4. Once they hit 5, they'll have fellow travelers in all 9 positions within a year.
It's an unbeatable tactic, if the other side has been browbeaten for 70 years into thinking that taking politics into consideration when hiring is the gravest of all sins.
N9, I don't think McCarthy was wrong. Obviously not. Communists have spent the last 70 years proving how dangerous and untrustworthy they are, and how not firing every last single one from every important institution is why we are about to lose the Republic.
McCarthyism?
..
In all, as far as I can tell, quite rightly. We have since found that most, (All? Anyone have any names that were not?) were real, actual, security risks who should never have gotten clearances.
Perhaps another word would work better in your comment.
Precisely. The culture, notably language, was appropriated and manipulated to create a frame of reference. This is one of diverse examples designed to manipulate perception in order to influence reality.
This is becoming a little like the movie Rosemary's Baby where she discovers at some point that even her obstetrician is part of the plot against her.
Don't cry for me Flyover Country
The truth is I never left you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my promise
Don't keep your distance
And as for fortune, and as for fame
I never invited them in
Though it seemed to the world they were all I desired
They are illusions…
Transgender spectrum... homosexual? bisexual? intersexual? neosexual? is trending on Twitter. Human rights, huh. #HateLovesAbortion
Jenna Ellis begs to differ
Barr believes? Infers? Conflation of logical domains?
,
On a related note, funding transnational terrorism, wars without borders, and aborting demos and democarcy are the lefts' and Deep State's choices under cover of darkness (i.e. twilight fringe). #InStorkTheyTrust
"It boils down to this. We know BLM and Antifa, the Democrats’ storm troopers, will burn our cities down if the results are overturned, so we have no choice but go allow Biden to take office.
He’s right about what would happen."
Like Fuck he is. Anyone who has tried to buy ammo recently knows exactly what is getting ready to come down on the heads of BLM and Antifa, just as soon as the cops get out of the way. But even if it were true, So what? Surrender to avoid losing? That doesn't work.
Inga said...
This retired three-star falsely claims US soldiers died attacking a CIA facility in Germany tied to election fraud
Who to believe?
Batshit crazy woman who has been pedaling russian conspiracy theories for 5 years?
Or a man that has been defending the country she doesn't deserve to be in for 40 years?
We see how scared you people are of an actual investigation. We see you do not have audit logs on your voting machines. We see you shredding evidence.
We see you hiding from the hundreds of witnesses that have been testifying before congressional committees.
Depositions in Nevada this week. They have a list of over 15000 people that voted in Nevada and another state.
Have you apologized to Carter Page yet Inga?
"All it would take is for a small number of governors to get the Dominion machines, then more would have gotten them because they assumed the first group researched it and knew what they were doing. You know how unlikely it was that any of them had any clue."
Hmmm... It has been alleged that some Governors made deals with China, including purchasing large amounts of Covid supplies with state funds that were never delivered. Not all Democrats, unfortunately. The Dominion voting system in Georgia was bought quite recently. Almost hastily, one might say. Of course, the two offices the Soros machine have been targeting are DAs and Secretaries of State. The latter have a lot of say in election equipment purchases.
“There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.
So far I have seen testimony from at least two mathematicians who have pointed out consistent patterns of large vote switching and also repeated improbable ratios of absentee votes coming in for Biden and Trump. Improbable in that they are statistically impossible. Is Barr saying they haven't investigated those anomalies or that they haven't found the source of the programming fraud yet?
Whoo, boy. Now we have "fake plaintiffs."
Using a fake plaintiff to root out fake voters. Love it.
It's Krakens all the way down.
You've probably seen and agreed with the following (from Iowahawk, I think):
1. Find a respected institution
2. Kill it
3. Gut it
4. Wear its carcass as a skinsuit, while demanding respect
That's exactly what I'm saying they do, but expand on it. Conducting the hiring/firing policy I described above, when met with no resistance, is something any and every useful idiot commie stooge can manage. "Only hire people on the team, comrade? I can manage that!" Once the hiring committee has 9 stooges on jt, It takes no brains or skill or merit at all to get hired by the stooges. Just commie lotalty... and they create life shattering blackmail on anyone not on the team who slips through. The first and most important Clinton scandal, FBI Filegate, in 1993, made that a breeze.
What do you think was on Hillary's email server and phones that needed to be wiped with a cloth and crushed with hammers? It was her blackmail material on... everyone, on the team or otherwise.
The best chance we have at this point is that Trump got a copy of that material somewhere along the way.
“Who to believe?”
“U.S. military officials did not mince words about the veracity of McInerney’s claims. “The allegations are false,” a USASOC spokesman told Military Times. The command has not had a fatal incident since two soldiers died in a helicopter crash in California this August, and the most recent Special Forces combat deaths resulted from an insider attack that killed two in Afghanistan on Feb. 8. An Army spokesman also denied this theory when reached by Military Times, describing the allegations as “definitely false.”
Is it just possible that Barr didn't find evidence of widespread fraud because there wasn't widespread fraud? I know it is a crazy conclusion to draw ... Much more logical to conclude that Barr is now antifa ...
Igna, the MSM is reporting that the soldiers died in a helicopter crash in Egypt, and the CIA has said their guy got killed in a firefight in Somalia. For all I know, they're telling the truth. But you need to tell whoever is feeding you talking points to get in touch with HQ. It would not be accurate to say they make you look like an idiot. But they don't help any.
"Is it just possible that Barr didn't find evidence of widespread fraud because there wasn't widespread fraud?"
Sure. I just went out back and looked for the Golden Gate Bridge, and I saw no sign of it. I had always suspected it did not exist, but that confirms it. I stood there for, like, five minutes. Nothing.
Why is Chuck still here?
THEOLDMAN
Had our first cold spell here in South Florida. 57 this morning. Had to turn off the AC last night and open the sliders until the morning.
Achilles, nothing you have claimed has been successfully investigated or litigated. You keep promising a knockout blow coming mañana, but tomorrow never comes. All the issues you list are certainly known to Trump's team of litigators, yet they're not presenting any of it in court. Instead, Rudy G keeps having press conferences and phony kangaroo hearings. Now AG Barr has thrown in the towel.
You still have State legeslatures and SCROTUS to weigh in, but reading the tea leaves says to me that there is nothing to the wild claims.
I just hope you are not poisoning your children with this nonsense. The saddest thing about Leah Remini's Scientology series is how the parents of that cult drag their kids into the madness vortex resulting in permanent psychological damage and worse... much worse.
Blogger Bill Owens said...
Barr gave up the fight a while ago. He's old and has tired of the constant battle. I believe he was sincere in his hope to at least marginally turn the DOJ in the direction of the angels but saw the task was beyond his abilities and energy.
Trump, otoh, has energy enough for all but he doesn't- or at least didn't- know how wins are constructed, not calculated, in DC. Guile and imperceptible deceit were your best friends in ugly Hollywood. That town is gone.
I agree but not about Trump figuring out how the DC machine works. It was not easy to cut through all the lies and run the country. He did as good as anyone could expect.
The DoJ is 98% Deep Staters. State is 100%.
It's a bit like a nightmare where you are the only none who knows how things work and everyone is trying to stop you.
The idiots who thought thy were getting 1995 back will be very surprised.
The point that requires reiteration is that on Election Night, vote counters in five large cities in states where Trump was winning suddenly stopped counting votes. Why? Unless they can explain why, the presumption is that they needed time to figure out how they were going to steal the election. Once they had made their plans, they started again, and suddenly Biden was ahead. This was fraud. Why should the rest of us believe otherwise? There is no evidence that the pause was not concerted. There is no evidence that actual votes lead to Biden's lead. They were the ones controlling the process, and they need to demonstrate, conclusively, that they followed the law.
You fucking people act like squishy nincompoop lily livered libtards are an invincible army of Tony Stark superheroes with perfect invisibility.
Jeebus. They can't barely run an Iowa caucus for Christ sake.
The burden of proof is on those who claim to have counted the votes, not on those who were not present and played no part in the charade.
I just hope you are not poisoning your children with this nonsense.
Why not ? Kids have to grow up and learning who the liars and cheats are is part of it. Surely you don't expect anyone here to believe idiots like Inga and gadfly.
We are in for Obama II with all the anti-Semitism, Israel hate, Iran love, nonsense economics and Cancel culture.
One grand daughter is to start college next fall but she is well prepared for the Gramscians.
Blogger Howard said...
You fucking people act like squishy nincompoop lily livered libtards are an invincible army of Tony Stark superheroes with perfect invisibility.
Howard, calm down. We are the ones with the 300 million guns, remember?
Read a Kurt Schlicter novel for relaxation.
like they are looking. the swamp protects the swamp.
Howard said...
Achilles, nothing you have claimed has been successfully investigated or litigated. You keep promising a knockout blow coming mañana, but tomorrow never comes. All the issues you list are certainly known to Trump's team of litigators, yet they're not presenting any of it in court. Instead, Rudy G keeps having press conferences and phony kangaroo hearings. Now AG Barr has thrown in the towel.
You still have State legeslatures and SCROTUS to weigh in, but reading the tea leaves says to me that there is nothing to the wild claims.
I just hope you are not poisoning your children with this nonsense. The saddest thing about Leah Remini's Scientology series is how the parents of that cult drag their kids into the madness vortex resulting in permanent psychological damage and worse... much worse.
You are not acting like a confident person Howard. Corporate Censorship is not an argument.
You haven't rebutted a single point I made.
Ever.
There is no logic or reason to your arguments. Only a claim to power. And every day more evidence comes out in these hearings. More witnesses come forward. Cybersecurity experts come forward with information I have expertise to understand.
There is literally no good reason for the Dominion Voting Machines to not have an audit log.
Not a single one.
"The investigation will continue under the incoming administration."
-- Sure it will.
Howard said...
I just hope you are not poisoning your children with this nonsense. The saddest thing about Leah Remini's Scientology series is how the parents of that cult drag their kids into the madness vortex resulting in permanent psychological damage and worse... much worse.
Also going to point out that this claim that I am damaging my children somehow just puts you in complete piece of shit range Howard.
You are just a complete piece of shit.
Video of USPS contract driver describes carrying ballots from New York to Pennsylvania.
Jesse Morgan: In total I saw 24 gaylords, or large cardboard containers of ballots, loaded into my trailer. These gaylords contained plastic trays, I call them totes or trays of ballots stacked on top of each other. All the envelopes were the same size. I saw the envelopes had return addresses… They were complete ballots.”
Jesse went on to say that he sat in Harrisburg for hours and when he was told to leave the supervisor at the post office would not give him a slip or an overtime slip so he could get paid. Jesse said the manager-supervisor was “kinda rude.”
Jesse’s testimony today revealed that employees at the United States Post Office were in on the conspiracy to steal the votes.
Days go by ....
Bring it on Mike. I hope you are ready to do some serious humping with 50-kilos of kit because you can't make a revolution sitting in your house. You actually have to move your ass off the davenport to project real power. You won't be able to drive or use roads or gps, so I hope your wildland navigation map skills are up to snuff.
I can see you now lying in a ditch marinating in your own waste bleating into a POS Chicom frs radio "what's the frequency Kenneth?"
Insults by AA commenters build up ....
I’m not sure the evidence is there to warrant it, but just in terms of power: if a federal court can order and supervise school busing, a court can redo a state vote, it seems to me.
Now DeJoy is in on the conspiracy. I guess gutting the postal service was a cover for his real Deep State mission.
You People... the true racist phrase. But Hey, math is hard. That's why lawyers don't do it. They're salespeople. The 'settlement' is what they're after. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBsJ-fHPT6Q&list=RDsBsJ-fHPT6Q&start_radio=1&t=17&t=19&t=21&t=17
Michigan poll watcher describes watching dollies of boxes full of votes being wheeled in at 4AM in Michigan.
Under oath.
How much evidence did it take to convince you that Trump was a Russian agent Howard?
Readering said...
Days go by ....
This person still believe Trump is a Russian spy.
“Now DeJoy is in on the conspiracy. I guess gutting the postal service was a cover for his real Deep State mission.”
Who woulda thunk he was in on the conspiracy to defraud Trump of millions of votes? He brilliantly played his role as Trump sychophant.
Litigating in actual Court is hard, Achilles. Bob Mueller laid out a nice legal case against Trump the Russian agent, but you can't prosecute a sitting President in court.
How exactly are you different from Rachel maddow now?
If Trump pardons himself to avoid the prosecution laid out in the Mueller report, will you believe that he was a Russian agent, Achilles?
Same as it ever was same as it ever was
“If Trump pardons himself to avoid the prosecution laid out in the Mueller report, will you believe that he was a Russian agent, Achilles?”
Accepting a pardon or pardoning oneself is an admission of guilt.
this is why the 'death panel' congressman from oregon, mounted a stunt involving mail boxes and the whole assault on gregory's integrity, the voting machines was a new twist, well one that the times pbs and hbo had documented,
Mark said...
The fat lady just sang.
Traslation: I think we got away with it! HUzzah!
This person still believe Trump is a Russian spy.
What we know is that Obama spied without evidence, Biden colluded placing Americans second, and Clinton peddled influence for profit, and a combination thereof.
#BabyRightsAreHumanRights
Oh, Inga. You're so cynical. If Trump gets a pardon, it's because he wants to save the country from the distraction and pain of a long drawn out trial.
Howard said...If Trump pardons himself to avoid the prosecution laid out in the Mueller report, will you believe that he was a Russian agent, Achilles?
If you just want to annoy people and troll like a teenager, go ahead Howard. It is easy to scroll past your puerile jibes.
However, you are starting to reach Inga-level stupidity and gadfly-level lefty paranoia.
As Trump and his followers continue to incite violence against poll workers and public officials, finally Barr had to step in and point out there no truth to most of this nonsense about the election. Meanwhile Trump is getting ready to hand out get of of jail pardons for crazy devotees.
I wonder about Lt General McEnerny's statements regarding an intramural armed conflict. He is not a conspiracy nut and I cannot think of what his agenda would be to lie. If he is telling the truth, it is scary.
He was right on target with his Gulf War commentary when others did not know or understand what was happening.
Francisco D: when did I give you the impression that you're opinions carried any sand with me?
Also, the shaming with other commenters is Doc Mike's gig. Find your own angle, you might get some respect if you stand up for yourself on your own hind legs
Looking like Trump's share of popular vote 2020 will fall below Romney's in 2012, just as it did in 2016. Won't reach 47%.
Much still to be written about Trump's 2016 campaign.
Jupiter said...
The burden of proof is on those who claim to have counted the votes, not on those who were not present and played no part in the charade.
This.
Reasonable suspicion is all it takes to force those that counted the votes to show their work.
This is an election, not a courtroom.
How does a teenager troll? Asking for a friend.
The election results were certified. Look it up.
That's a weak point, Readering. L Don Trumppard garnered the second highest vote counting US history.
All kidding aside, the man has accomplished a huge victory for flyover country. It's a mistake to discount that. This election was way too close and the democratic party still hasn't gotten the memo.
Probably way late to the Barr Bash here, but my $0.02. This guy goes down in history like Herbert Hoover only without the accomplishments part. What a disaster he turned into, or always was. Or, possibly, what a bad gamble he took that he could proceed with prosecutions in a less-politicized atmosphere after a Trump reelection.
He could have served the nation. Instead, he prevented the transparent cleansing of which we are in such spectacular need. A complete and utter failure of the first magnitude. Beyond the first magnitude!!
Readering said...How does a teenager troll? Asking for a friend.
Like an idiot with feelings instead of analytical reasoning. You know. Like most of the lefties who post here.
Brown dog and Jupiter: if what you say is actually true, why hasn't the greatest legal team in history already accomplished it? It's been 4-weeks
"There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that," Barr said.
Barr checked out Sidney Powell's Dominion-related allegations with Eric Coomer, who denied them. Case closed.
“Oh, Inga. You're so cynical. If Trump gets a pardon, it's because he wants to save the country from the distraction and pain of a long drawn out trial.”
Haha, he can’t run for president in 2024 from behind bars.
To come to this conclusion on a multistage issue after a mere 3 weeks must be a record! Now if they can just make sense of Jeffrey Epstein ... Any day ... Were waiting ... crickets.
Thanks for the link, Achilles. Let me return the favor:
https://rumble.com/vbiy7f-dominion-contractor-drops-a-bombshell.html
This testimony is devastating. This girl (very cute, which helps in the watching, cause it's long, and it does take her a bit to get to some *really huge points*) was a freelance IT worker hired by Dominion Voting Systems to work the vote tabulation. She was there for *twenty seven hours*. I find her utterly credible.
Everything she relates is completely plausible and utterly horrifying. The Senators try like hell to focus on bullshit details, but she answers all their questions, and by the end they appear to feel obligated to pretend that they'll look into it.
(Among many other things, she says she didn't see a single Trump vote in working the vote tabulation for 27 hours).
“Readering said...How does a teenager troll? Asking for a friend.”
Like Francisco D after while he’s in his cups, which seems to be a nightly occurrence for him.
Howard said...
Litigating in actual Court is hard, Achilles. Bob Mueller laid out a nice legal case against Trump the Russian agent, but you can't prosecute a sitting President in court.
How exactly are you different from Rachel maddow now?
The difference is:
1. There are hundreds of eyewitness statements signed under penalty of perjury supporting the claim that republican poll observers were kicked out of poll counting stations.
2. Multiple whistle blowers have come out with descriptive and compelling testimony about USPS misdeeds.
3. The Dominion Voting Machines were designed specifically to commit election fraud. I could personally build and code a machine that would produce audit logs and count votes with very basic code. I could make it so the voting machine would save a non-volatile log you could not erase or change that could completely rebuild an election vote by vote.
4. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has come out with rulings that you cannot sue before the election because there was no tort yet, and they have followed this up with rulings that court filings after the election were not done in a timely manner.
5. There is no way that Biden managed to win fewer than 500 counties and got 80 million votes. The vociferousness that democrats have shown to avoid audits and investigations just confirms they are dirty.
6. There was no good reason to shut down vote counting at 3:00AM in 6 states all at the same time and then to update the counts at 4:30AM with ballots you said you were not counting while multiple people saw ballots being trucked in in mass after poll workers were "sent home."
7. You. Inga, readering. Others. None of you have posted a single reasoned statement. You are all a mix of "lalalalala" and "neener neener." You re turds. Pawns. Losers.
Read your own posts Howard. Actually read them.
Wouldn’t a statement like that make it easier for the DOJ to accept evidence later delivered by Trump allies?
Trump can't run for president in 2024 when he's sunning himself on the Black Sea.
Every single leftist defense of this fraud amounts to appeals to authority.
The authorities being institutions they've been systematically infiltrating for 3 generations.
No matter how much evidence you present, "judges rejected it!" "Barr rejected it!". And that's supposed to settle everything.
The Left has been preparing for this for decades, and made sure those institutions would be 100% controlled by their people when it happened.
We do not accept the sovereignty of your captured institutions.
---Haha, he can’t run for president in 2024 from behind bars. [Ingeborg]
The Left writ small. Very, very small. But ever so willing to aid the cause of destruction.
“Haha, he can’t run for president in 2024 from behind bars. [Ingeborg]”
Indeed not.
Qwinn:
America. Love it or leave it.
Get over yourself and your conspiracy theory.
Achilles, I appreciate your interest. However, I am willing to let the process play out. I am not interested in debating rumors. If what you say is true, Trump raised $150 million from you to get this done. Where's his army of David's? All the Trump supporting blog lawyers are just jaw jacking you guys into a lather. Your side has failed to organize and follow through with real actions.
You folks always tease liberals for being activists like it's an insult. Well, if you want to accomplish a goal, actual action is required. No one gives it to you. This is free market boot strapping 101.
Qwinn said...
...
We do not accept the sovereignty of your captured institutions.
Well okay then. We'll make a note of that.
Ingaborg... He is visualizing you in Seven from Star Treks' skin suit. You have strange powers over these INCELs
Howard said...
Achilles, I appreciate your interest. However, I am willing to let the process play out. I am not interested in debating rumors. If what you say is true, Trump raised $150 million from you to get this done. Where's his army of David's? All the Trump supporting blog lawyers are just jaw jacking you guys into a lather. Your side has failed to organize and follow through with real actions.
You folks always tease liberals for being activists like it's an insult. Well, if you want to accomplish a goal, actual action is required. No one gives it to you. This is free market boot strapping 101.
You are still a complete piece of shit. Your posts have demonstrated just how much evidence your side has. There is zero evidence that this election was legitimate.
You keep asking us to do this.
But you are going to be really sad when we start treating you like you have been treating us.
We really don't want to be like you. We want a high trust society.
You are going to be sad that you made this happen.
"Well okay then. We'll make a note of that."
Who's "we" in that sentence? The 3% of Republicans who don't think the election was stolen?
With every passing day, we're not being convinced that it wasn't stolen, it's becoming more and more obvious and irrefutable that it was.
Note that Howard has not responded to a single point I made.
He has nothing.
He is nothing.
Sorry - 3% of Trump voters who don't think the election was stolen, I should've said.
Rand Paul on Newsmax talking about Barr.
"He is visualizing you in Seven from Star Treks' skin suit"
Not 'Seven,' 'Seven of Nine.' Idiot.
“Ingaborg... He is visualizing you in Seven from Star Treks' skin suit. You have strange powers over these INCELs”
Haha, well maybe, but they should know I’m a 68 year old grandma and have no desire to take their freedoms away from them. It’s way past time the right put their feet back on solid ground. Between Q Anon and whatever other lunatic conspiracy theories and Trump’s insane leadership they have truly lost their way.
I never claimed to have evidence, that's on your team of attorneys litigating for your candidate. Debating on the internet may satisfy your low dopamine condition but it isn't anything real. The real shit gets released by courts and government bodies with plenary powers. So far, nothing, so you are absolutely correct I got nothing you got nothing nobody has anything in regard to the fraud investigation it's a big nothing Burger so far.
Howard said...
Ingaborg... He is visualizing you in Seven from Star Treks' skin suit. You have strange powers over these INCELs
Do you read these before you post them Howard?
Do you think this convinces anyone that the election was legitimate?
Do you think this is clever? Intelligent?
You are a joke.
Achilles, I note that Althouse hasn't either.
No one need respond to internet tyrants.
Howard said...
I never claimed to have evidence, that's on your team of attorneys litigating for your candidate. Debating on the internet may satisfy your low dopamine condition but it isn't anything real. The real shit gets released by courts and government bodies with plenary powers. So far, nothing, so you are absolutely correct I got nothing you got nothing nobody has anything in regard to the fraud investigation it's a big nothing Burger so far.
Pathetic.
Incidentally, re: Newsmax...
30 million viewers now.
Fourth highest ratings of a cable news network.
They're not reporting everything, but they're reporting enough.
Guess they couldn't infiltrate one. Guess that's why they initially had Comcast in PA refuse to pull up Newsmax unless you directly input the channel number, and it wouldn't show up on the "Recently Viewed" menu even as a channel you watched one time two months ago was still on the list. That's gotten "fixed" now.
Well you know exactly what I meant Lewis I'd rather be an idiot than a supercilious pendant
DOJ could not find the Russia Collusion case they were part of either. Just sayin.
This is the same person who hasn't concluded whether charges should be brought in Crossfire Hurricane.
He's not known for working quickly or coming to conclusions until every piece of evidence has been examined.
Mark said...
Achilles, I note that Althouse hasn't either.
No one need respond to internet tyrants.
Pathetic.
Every day more people join my side because you are empty. We already have a majority. It will never get better for you.
In other news, AG Barr hasn't seen enough robberies to change the GDP.
I was under the impression that the FBI investigated alleged criminal activity, and the DOJ charged and prosecuted, or not, based on what evidence they uncovered, or lack thereof.
What exactly does the FBI do now?
That's right Achilles. The result of your great fraud conspiracy is pathetic. Now you want your opponents to do your work for you. Which is pitiable.
You actually seek to be an object of pity. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
People have knocked the choice of Guiliani to lead this, but quite frankly... this was the guy who managed to take down the New York F'in Mafia. That court environment probably wasn't much friendlier than this one. Ain't too many other people with that kind of a success record.
The leftist mafia deserves no less an opponent. Cause it absolutely *is* a criminal conspiracy, and if there's a man around who can bring successful RICO charges, I'm confident it's that man.
That's right Achilles, the Ingaborg thing was a joke. And here I thought you didn't have a sense of humor.
Howard, Achilles has always been a humorless dolt.
"Howard said...
Well you know exactly what I meant Lewis I'd rather be an idiot than a supercilious pendant"
Is that supposed to be an insult?
If you are wrong about Seven-of-nine's name, what else else are you ignorant about? The election laws of the United States, perhaps?
Ninnyhammer.
The next Trump scandal for this evening; DC US District Court unseals order in DoJ investigation of money-for-presidential-pardon scheme.
https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/sites/dcd/files/20gj35%20Partial%20Unsealing%20Order.pdf
It's great fun reading through the redacted Order and Memorandum to try to figure whose pardon (or perhaps commutation, as I read it) is being investigated.
Think of all of the people of wealth who've gotten something -- a pardon or a commutation -- out of the Trump White House:
Conrad Black
Roger Stone
Michael Milken
Judith Negron
Ted Suhl
Sholom Rubashkin
Paul Pogue
Edward DeBartolo Jr.
Then there are the rightwing media darlings who might have access to some money and some lobbying power:
Joe Arpaio
Bernard Kerik
Dinesh D'Souza
Roger Stone
Michael Flynn
"like they are looking. the swamp protects the swamp."
Don't disagree with the sentiment, but it's not a swamp. It's a sewer.
“The next Trump scandal for this evening; DC US District Court unseals order in DoJ investigation of money-for-presidential-pardon scheme.”
Speaking of fraud...
So, Chuck, you voted for Trump in 2016. Did you vote for Trump this year?
The sad thing is you people don't even realize what vain divas you are being. You now hold the standard that Democrats are responsible for convincing right wing conspiracy cultists that their Messiah is a tub of shit.
Sorry Charlie, that's on you. Like I said before, you people suffer from mass narcissistic personality disorder by proxy
Staten Island bar owner arrested. Because he violated Cuomo's orders and opened his bar.
Yeah, yer right, Farmer, we'll all just go back to our lives.
Jesus Lewis I got her first name right what do you expect. But yes by all means don't believe anything I say because I respect your opinion so much. I wouldn't want you tainted by someone who is imperfect at providing strange names from sci-fi television shows of the past millennia
IT worker gives testimony about what happened at the TCF Center.
She was there for 27 hours.
She is probably a Russian agent.
“There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said.
Of course, they haven't seen the computer programs that counted the votes, either. Dominion refuses to release the code. So that's sort of like saying, "Although we have not been to Alaska, we have seen no evidence to substantiate the claim that polar bears shit there".
40 cops were deployed to close down a bar and arrest the owner.
For giving away free beer.
Do you know when this thing we had, went irretrievably bad? It was 2012. Pres. Obama set the IRS on people like me. We wanted to True the Vote. The IRS came down hard on us.
We needed Democrats to say, 'Whoa, whoa, whoa...We're not a banana republic. That ain't right.
Instead, Democrats cheered.
That's when this thing we had was finally gone.
About a month ago, I drove my Mom to the ER here in Western Wisconsin. She was feeling sick, no appetite, and she is in her 80s.
They gave her a covid test, and she was positive.
The next day her husband, my step father, aged 82, had a cough, so I drove him to the ER for a covid test. The results were positive.
The next week I spent a lot time with my sister. She was helping me paint the interior of my house. After the first day, she felt bad so she went in for test. Covid positive.
But wait! Since sister was out, I spent a few days with my brother helping him winterize his cars.
Just before Thanksgiving he & his wife felt sick. They got tested, covid positive. His wife ended up in the ER with both lungs full of fluid, yep, double pneumonia.
Meanwhile I was not feeling so good. I had developed a persistent cough. No fever or any other symptoms, just a persistent cough. So I went in for a covid test.
Result? Negative. I ain't got covid. What I have is bronchitis, and so I am on levofloxacin and 20 mg of prednisone twice a day, which is probably why I am writing so much.
"Speaking of fraud..."
Igna, it would only be fraud if they didn't get the pardons. See how that works? Your handlers aren't any too sharp either, but there is a reason they don't like you to strike out on your own like this.
Achilles, I linked that Dominion worker's testimony at 5:58. Read my description of it. Fair?
I have to congratulate myself on not sticking around to befoul myself in this bedlam of shitty rants.
I took a nap instead.
Congrats, Howard, on your new career in psychiatric diagnosis.
Howard said...
Jesus Lewis I got her first name right what do you expect. But yes by all means don't believe anything I say because I respect your opinion so much.
NINE IS NOT HER SURNAME! HER NAME IS SEVEN-OF-NINE!
Jesus Christ on a surfboard . . .
Be transparent. Publish the findings. We paid for it.
"40 cops were deployed to close down a bar and arrest the owner.
For giving away free beer."
If the people at the bar had just gone down the street and busted some windows instead...
If Bill Barr and Rush Limbaugh refuse to sign on, it merely proves the conspiracy goes far deeper than we ever could have suspected.
States have certified,homeland Security says no problems, then fired for telling truth firing a trump staple. Sycophant Barr directly contradicts trump, no problems with election to any extent, (wonder why he's been quiet) new bribery case just dropped about pay for play for pardons, trump tells you to break law he'll pardon you, he'll have to be fired now that Barr fella(even though he throws trump a bone by special counsel deal for lawyer trying to prove something for trump(that will fold up. Everyone up in here still got all the evidence but not the worlds best lawyers? (even though thats debatable RUDY?)13 days till the fat lady and fat man sing...This site will empty out for the new place to spread theory OANN,NEWSMAX the new one Parler a real nut joint with more conspiracy than carter got pills. Righties can spend next 8 years crying over the shame of it all, nothing we can do they say, Wrong ,they did do something they voted for the 1 term fluke president and took a slaughtering with landslide electoral college defeat and a popular vote drubbing. Imagine being beat by Obamas right hand man, any narcissist would absolutely break down right? Cya in 8 years ,watch out for that Parler conspiracy site you'll get as looney as Lou Dobbs and the group of conspiracists,that Glen guy? Keep sending trump your $$$ he got 150 million so far for his election fight(wink,wink)super pac to pay his debts off, keep sending it in folks conned right until the end. Time to move on this thing is way over. A winner and a real loser. Apathy didn't win the day this round. Me not only Dinky Dau up in here :)
Here's the real long and short of it:
If there weren't evidence of widespread voter fraud to be found, Democrats would want the vote to be thoroughly investigated, just to prove how crazy Trump is.
They have interfered with all investigation as much as humanly possible.
That really does tell us all we need to know. And that's not illegitimate. Criminal behavior does really prove criminal intent.
Doctrine of spoilation transfers the burden of proof to the defendant if they destroy evidence knowing it has been requested for pending litigation. Democrats are doing that in 6 states simultaneously.
I used to call her six of nine. I hope you feel better Lewis I've been on those prednisone tapers before they're not much fun but at least you can breathe. I used to have asthma back in the day so I would also use a nebulizer for Albuterol which really helped a lot too in addition to the prednisone
(And Republicans as well)
I've played a psychiatrist on the internet for at least a decade, Thomas
So explain to us, Howard, since your position seems to be that the burden of proof lies on people who are being actively precluded from investigating anything (which is itself part of the crime), tell us exactly why the doctrine of spoilation doesn't apply to you.
Catherine Herridge's Twitter feed is a good one to read for all of this stuff...
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge
Howard said...
The sad thing is you people don't even realize what vain divas you are being. You now hold the standard that Democrats are responsible for convincing right wing conspiracy cultists that their Messiah is a tub of shit.
Sorry Charlie, that's on you. Like I said before, you people suffer from mass narcissistic personality disorder by proxy
The point of having an agreed to election process with laws and rules is that when it is over everyone accepts the results.
Democrats and not a few Republicans broke those laws. Now we will not accept the results.
That is not a difficult thing to understand. It is part of having a high trust society. Everyone in a high trust society has a responsibility to maintain that trust in the institutions of society. It is part of the social contract.
Blogger I'm Not Sure said...
"like they are looking. the swamp protects the swamp."
Don't disagree with the sentiment, but it's not a swamp. It's a sewer.
Now it's my turn to be a supercilious pendant.
You completely miss the meaning. Shit eventually flows out of a sewer. Nothing ever gets out of a swamp.
---The investigation will continue under the incoming administration. [Kathryn]
But when it mattered, Barr, Durham & Co. punted.
Course, there's still John Huber.
Howard wrote:
I used to have asthma back in the day so I would also use a nebulizer for Albuterol which really helped a lot too in addition to the prednisone
I have one of those inhalers, too. The doc I saw today was convinced that I have OCPD because of some note another doc wrote on my records years ago to explain an enlarged heart (which I got from working at high altitude for three decades). I told the doc that, told him I had no problem breathing, just a cough, but the doc insisted I need an inhaler.
Scott Adams says that Artificial Intelligence may have already taken over the operation of all of our essential systems.
And we wouldn’t know it.
Clearly, this comment thread proves that Natural Intelligence no longer exists.
So I called the Wisconsin Election Commission today and had a conversation with a man there. I told him as a Wisconsin resident I was appalled at being again at the center of a voting controversy and we discussed the statistical impossibility of the areas in Milwaukee and Madison going in the middle of the night in several areas for Biden. He said "you don't want Biden to win that's why you are discussing this." I responded, no, I want to know that we have accurate votes - if the majority in our country want him, so be it...but from everything I've seen that seems completely unlikely. His response - prove it. That's the Wisconsin Election Commissions response. Prove it. So here's where I am - a middle aged semi retired realtor. I've been a builder all my life - set up incubators for small business - help low income people rent, helped children in Milwaukee at risk. I'm Catholic and faithful. I'm done. What does that say when I am feeling that our country is over? That I need to protect myself and my family rather than others? It's against everything I have ever felt or done. But I see the writing on the wall. The Democrats on this blog think this is funny, or they feel justified in mocking people who are concerned about this - but truly, I think they are so misled. Right now their tribe needs them, but after this election, no longer. Do they not see that? I don't think I'm much different from most - I just have the freedom to express my thoughts without economic consequenses. When you are dealing with people who are supposed to guard the public trust and they treat you as an enemy - where do you go from there?
My 85 year old father died! He died! It was before the Corona Cooties thing, so no one paid attention. I paid attention because he was my Dad. When I was a sprout, He dragged me into the surf on a New Jersey beach in 1958. I was scared at the time, but he hoisted me on his shoulders and told me to BE NOT AFRAID. I was afraid though. The waves came in and my Father stood against those waves. He calmly said, Be Not Afraid.
Be Not Afraid.
---Now it's my turn to be a supercilious pendant. [Howard]
Well, maybe. But you can't be a pendant with nothing hanging.
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