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I think it's valuable to read the transcript and judge Trump's words on their merit, not just to remember how you felt as you heard this...


... (if you listened to the whole thing live) and what it seemed as though he was saying. This speech was, I presume, intended to cause intense emotion, and I think it did. I got the feeling he was making wild accusations and that he ought instead to stay very closely connected to the evidence. 

From the transcript of Donald Trump's press conference yesterday:
The officials overseeing the counting in Pennsylvania and other key states are all part of a corrupt Democrat machine that you’ve written about. And for a long time, you’ve been writing about the corrupt Democrat machine. I went to school there and I know a lot about it. It hasn’t changed since a long time ago and hasn’t changed. It has gotten worse. 
In Pennsylvania, partisan Democrats have allowed ballots in the state to be received three days after the election, and we think much more than that, and they’re counting those without even postmarks or any identification whatsoever. So you don’t have postmarks, you don’t have identification. 
There have been a number of disturbing irregularities across the nation. 
Our campaign has been denied access to observe any counting in Detroit. Detroit is another place, and I wouldn’t say has the best reputation for election integrity. Poll workers in Michigan were duplicating ballots. But when our observers attempted to challenge the activity, those poll workers jumped in front of the volunteers to block their views so that they couldn’t see what they were doing and it became a little bit dangerous. 
One major hub for counting ballots in Detroit covered up the windows again with large pieces of cardboard, and so they wanted to protect and block the counting area. They didn’t want anybody seeing the counting, even though these were observers who were legal observers that were supposed to be there. In Detroit, there were hours of unexplained delay in delivering many of the votes for counting. The final batch did not arrive until 4:00 in the morning. And even though the polls closed at 8:00 o’clock, so they brought it in and the batches came in and nobody knew where they came from. 
We’ve also been denied access to observe in critical places in Georgia. In multiple swing states, counting was halted for hours and hours on Election Night. With results withheld from major Democrat run locations only to appear later, and they certainly appeared and they all had the name Biden on them, or just about all. I think almost all. They all had the name Biden on them, which is a little strange. 
I challenge Joe and every Democrat to clarify that they only want legal votes because they talk about votes and I think they should use the word legal, legal votes. We want every legal vote counted, and I want every legal vote counted. We want openness and transparency, no secret count rooms, no mystery ballots, no illegal votes being cast after Election Day... We’re hearing stories that are horror stories, absolute horror stories, and we can’t let that happen to the United States of America.... There’s been a lot of shenanigans and we can’t stand for that in our country.

ADDED at 7:16: I've reformatted the material above to make it easier to see and read and to forefront what I had to say about it. I put this post up hastily before going out for my sunrise run, which partly explains the previous formatting. 

But I want to be clear about what I felt, listening to Trump in real time yesterday, compared to what I think reading the transcript this morning. As I say above, "I got the feeling he was making wild accusations and that he ought instead to stay very closely connected to the evidence." When I read the transcript, it seems much more disciplined and close to the evidence than it seemed to me after listening yesterday. 

After listening, I had thoughts like: The President is going crazy. He's putting his interest in winning above the our interest in peace and security, trying to make us think everything is going to hell when, really, it's a pretty normal election under the highly unusual COVID circumstance. He should make his argument, but he needs to ground it solidly on evidence and not just say anything and everything that comes into his head as he fights for his personal victory and plays on our unstable emotions.

But reading the text — and the part I excerpted is where I expected to see the craziness — I am amazed how much it sticks to specific assertions of fact, actual observations, and not vague, broad claims about corruption everywhere. 

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Rick म्हणाले...

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/05/there-is-corruption-at-the-highest-level-registered-dem-and-poll-watcher-shares-video-with-disturbing-information-about-ballot-counting-in-philly/

I don't know if these issues are fraud or misunderstandings. It seems very unlikely anyone else does either since no one is actually looking into most of them. A responsive representative government and culture would investigate anomalies and present the findings. An authoritarian government and culture denies the anomalies based on fiat.

This is the problem Glen Greenwald was identifying. As soon as Democrats are in charge media and leftists abandon the roles they claim to serve (watchdogs, etc) and become agents of government. Democrats know this so they act authoritarian which most leftists agree with already in the fantasy of enlightened philosopher kings.

effinayright म्हणाले...

A helluva lotta good those three hundred million guns have done us.

The Tree of Liberty won't be watered, because it's been chopped down.

Rusty म्हणाले...

Mr. D said...
"If the D's get by with it, the Republicans will cheat in the next cycle. The 2024 elections may have 127% of registered voters participating."
No. You're assuming a steady state exists. After this time you can vote all you want but the democrats will have to approve the outcome. You have voted in your last free and fair election. You are witnessing the death of the republic. After this we are no better than any other banana republic.
I honestly don't know why "the people" aren't in the streets armed.

LA_Bob म्हणाले...

readering,

How do you know Trump "took no precautions"? He is only president, not Dictator. What precautions can he take? The voting process is managed at the state and county and precinct levels. We depend upon the integrity of these people all over the country whenever there are elections.

The president can wave his wand, but he has no magic to make COVID go away or the economy hum or partisan officials behave honestly.

Birkel म्हणाले...

jim,
You failed.
Your attempt to dissemble is noted.

Birkel म्हणाले...

The only cities where Biden has outperformed Obama from either 2008 or 2012 are Milwaukee, Detroit, Philly, and Atlanta.

What possible explanation is there for higher turnout in those cities now than in 2008? 2012?

Nobody can offer any sensible explanation that excludes fraud.

Speaking of fraud... here comes a fopdoodle.

Greg The Class Traitor म्हणाले...

Lurker21 said...
Clearly, there was voter fraud.
But was it enough to change the vote in any state?
Georgia, perhaps. Maybe Pennsylvania. Wisconsin? Arizona?
But the wider the margin between the candidates, the less likely it is that throwing out fraudulent ballots would make a difference in the result.

Faking 100,000 votes would be quite a feat.


Why yes, it would

Which is why MI had 200,000 mail in ballots with votes for Biden, and no one else.

Not one single down ticket race.

Because when you're faking up over 100,000 ballots, you don't want to waste time bubbling in anything else.

Rick म्हणाले...

readering said...
Before the election, with all polls pointing to a Biden victory, Trump said the only way he could lose would be by fraud. But he took no precautions. After election, losing, he claims fraud with no evidence. How does AA attract so many commenters who support this malignant nonsense?


In order for this to make any sense we'd have to believe the President was in charge of running elections. How is it left wingers - not just here but everywhere - believe whatever transparent pretext enables them to dismiss opponents?

Michael K म्हणाले...

After election, losing, he claims fraud with no evidence. How does AA attract so many commenters who support this malignant nonsense?

I expected this from you hard lefties. The fraud is so widespread that it will be very difficult to reverse. I just hope some of you people go to prison. Of course with a Biden DOJ you will all get away with it.

Here is a source for many examples of fraud.

You won't read it, of course.

Skippy Tisdale म्हणाले...

Everybody Knows
-- Leonard Cohen

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

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Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long-stem rose
Everybody knows

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Ah, give or take a night or two
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Without your clothes
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And everybody knows that it's now or never
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Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
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Are just a shining artifact of the past
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But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
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To the beach of Malibu
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Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
Before it blows
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That's how it goes
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That's how it goes
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Static Ping म्हणाले...

Things are defined as "wild" based on what the standard is. If someone claims to see a unicorn, we consider that claim to be wild because no one has ever seen such a thing. If the claim is made while a pegasus is battling a manticore right behind you during a conversation with a talking dog, that's not "wild" anymore. The standard has changed.

There are so many documented shenanigans, near statistical impossibilities, and outright illegal acts in this election that what was "wild" two years ago is very believable. The fact that the Biden campaign is refusing to discuss the matter is a tell. The standard has changed. The fact that this was a mail-in election, which everyone knows is absolutely ripe for vote fraud just by its very existence, makes the entire matter suspect by default.

Michael K म्हणाले...

It all began with mail-in voting—that scandal-ready procedure that was the electoral equivalent of flying over American states in B-52s as if they were behind enemy lines and dropping ballots at random.

If one were to design a system by which a democracy could be subverted, even destroyed, universal mail-in voting (not, of course, normal absentee voting that requires the citizen to request a ballot) would be at or near the top of a list.

What could go wrong?

It’s not just the obvious—dead people voting, people who left the state voting, illegal aliens voting, signatures no one could possibly recognize being authenticated, signatures with no record, envelopes being back-dated, ballots found in gullies, ballots dumped in gullies, ballot harvesting, foreign agents voting surreptitiously en masse, deadlines that keep moving like the proverbial goal posts, and who knows what.

It’s an actual guarantee of chaos—and that’s what we had and have.

No one will ever really know what happened.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-disastrous-2020-election-will-never-be-resolved_3568355.html

I don't see how anyone will ever trust an election again.

Chuck म्हणाले...
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Greg The Class Traitor म्हणाले...

wholelottasplainin' said...
A helluva lotta good those three hundred million guns have done us.

The Tree of Liberty won't be watered, because it's been chopped down.


Don't be so eager to lose.

We're in the early days. Let's wait until the Electoral College actually votes before we decide that Trump has actually had the election stolen from him.

It's obvious that he won. There's Courts to rule. There's State Legislatures to Act. And there's the House and Senate to act.

There will be tiem for a 2nd Amendment solution, if that's what's needed

readering म्हणाले...

Interesting to look at Nate Silver's 538 snake of states by poll strength of each side. (The one showing Pennsylvania as the tipping point state.) It was accurate in predicting the results in the close states of Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, even N. Carolina, which has still not been called. (And Neb. District 2!) The one state he got all wrong, and it was a big number, was Florida. (And Maine District 2!--The single elec. vote to flip to Trump from 2016.) A lot of post mortem analysis needed on Florida. Guessing it was not picking up on the S. American immigrant move towards Republicans.

readering म्हणाले...

Mail-in voting a fraud, although it matches the polling. Ha! I vote in person, and the polling station in LA I went to was absolutely deserted at 4:30 pm on election day. Except for the army of young polling workers replacing the covid-concerned elderly. I think mail in voting is here to stay in California.

readering म्हणाले...

Sorry Michael K, but social media misinformation is not evidence of anything except the sad state of social media.

gadfly म्हणाले...

In the face of a Trump-initiated slowdown in mail delivery and the Coronavirus-related need to permit unlimited mail balloting, the PA Supreme Court established the "three days after" rule as a result of a filing by Democrats to counter Trump's action. Upon GOP appeal, SCOTUS permitted the rule to stand.

Unchanged was the ancient GOP-established rule that special ballots could not be counted until election day which substantially slowed mail vote counting - counting that was observed continually by party observers despite Trump words to the contrary.

As Don Meredith sang on Monday Night Football, "Turn out the lights, the party's over."

Nichevo म्हणाले...

Money Manger said...
Agree with him or not, he will fight this battle alone. The Mainstream Republican machine is content with a Biden win.
The decision tree:
Trump wins, Street riots, 4 more years of noise, GOP loses the Senate and House in 2022, any Dem with a pulse wins the White House in 2024. For 8 years.
Biden wins: buyers remorse. GOP picks up the House, adds to Senate in 2022. Many GOP candidates can lick Kamala in 2024. For 8 years.

Trump has no army to fight this fight


DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT.

effinayright म्हणाले...

Greg The Class Traitor said...
wholelottasplainin' said...
A helluva lotta good those three hundred million guns have done us.

The Tree of Liberty won't be watered, because it's been chopped down.
**
Don't be so eager to lose.
***********

I'm not eager to lose. Far from it.

But, to use an old Commie phrase, the "correlation of forces" is not in our favor UNLESS the people rise up. And so far we don't seem to be effectively countering the Democrat Crime Syndicate.

I live in a one-party state. A one-party America used to be unimaginable.

Not any more.

IF Trump loses in the end, he should boycott Biden's inauguration. THAT would throw the gauntlet down, hard.

jg म्हणाले...

'I’ve spoken to two of the GOP challengers who were there this week.' This should be easy to prove if it's not a confabulation.

readering म्हणाले...

Sometime in the next few days or weeks, the Trump-Kushner family will sit down and figure out what they think is the best strategy for promoting the Trump-Kushner family businesses in 2021. I don't know what they will decide, but it will determine what they do going forward. Not all this nonsense about the election being stolen. (By the way, I just tried to book a room online at the Trump International Hotel in DC for Inauguration weekend and it was sold out. Maybe they are limited in occupancy by covid.)

Birkel म्हणाले...

I hope the Leftist Collectivists get for themselves exactly what they wish for me.
I will never be a serf.

I hope you Leftist Collectivists are happy when the yoke is firmly secured on your backs.
I hope it rests easy.

mockturtle म्हणाले...

We let our Republic slip away from us by relying heavily on the deep-state media to filter and interpret our information. We should have had independent reporters all over the globe but that ship has long ago sailed.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

The media was important, mockturtle, but the Left infiltrated every last single important institution, by invariably employing the tactic they claimed to abhor when they called it "McCarthyism".

The corruption of the schools, and the takeover of corporate HR departments (to enforce said McCarthyism) were at least as important as the corruption of the media.

Rusty म्हणाले...

"Faking 100,000 votes would be quite a feat."
See Chicago 1982. They almost got away with it.
Readering. Shut the fuck up. The fraud is so blatant you'd have to be willfully blind not to see it.
How much did you sell your honor for and when?

Qwinn म्हणाले...

"You have voted in your last free and fair election."

Assumes facts not in evidence. I honestly currently would not be surprised if we learned that Republicans have received over 65% of the vote in every election of the last 50 years (my lifetime). The facility with which this election has been brazenly stolen can only mean that the mechanisms and organizations responsible for the fraud has been around for a long time and has had a lot of practice.

I grew up and lived most of my life in central NJ. In my experience, were 2 out of 3 people (current election 61-38 for Biden) in NJ Democrats? Even around lefty Princeton? Not even close.

I've never seen a free or fair election in my lifetime. Dems have been stealing elections our entire lives.

Chuck म्हणाले...
ब्लॉग प्रशासकाने ही टिप्पण्णी हटविली आहे.
Qwinn म्हणाले...

readering, show me the 538 poll that said Trump would win Ohio by 8. God, you lie like a rug.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

"Then it should be easy to produce evidence that will stand up in court."

Oh, no, you fucking didn't.

This requires me to reprint my rant from 2 days ago:

Okay. I've fucking had it. I need to vent. I need to rant.

Lefties who are arguing "there's no evidence of voter fraud", I need to explain something to you.

WE DON'T TRUST YOU.

We *know* that we could provide a MOUNTAIN of evidence, and you will still robotically keep saying "no evidence!" How do we know this? Because it's HAPPENED, over and over and over.

Like when you say "no evidence!", we link to the Heritage site with 1298 documented instances of voter fraud:

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud


And suddenly the goalposts get motorized. You assholes just casually move from "no evidence whatsoever" to "it's not statistically significant", even though a lot of those single instances involve thousands and thousands of votes (about half the time, I get lefties deliberately pretending "instances" means "single votes", even though an even cursory look makes that obviously not the case).

But the whole point is, you fucking smegheads pretend you don't get our point, which is that DEMOCRATS EVERYWHERE SYSTEMATICALLY DISMANTLE EVERY POSSIBLE VOTER INTEGRITY MEASURE THAT WOULD MAKE DETECTING VOTER FRAUD POSSIBLE WITH A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF EFFORT.

Heritage found these 1298 instances *despite* that. Your side does it *so fucking much* that even though you've made literally unlimited voter fraud virtually untraceable everywhere Democrats have political power, we *still* manage to catch it, occasionally, a tiny percentage of the time, if we spend insane hours of research and man hours to do so for each instance, far more time than it takes you guys to actually steal the votes. And we can document over a thousand cases of it, and you still pretend it doesn't matter.

And you know this. You do this deliberately. And because you know you have TOTAL control of the media and big tech, which censors virtually any attempt to make the population aware of it (big tech is going overtime slapping "disputed" flags on any video of witnesses to voter fraud saying what they saw, but never does a leftie EVER get a disputed flag, even though - guess what, motherfuckers - WE DISPUTE VIRTUALLY EVERY WORD YOU UTTER.)

It's pure gaslighting. You guys cheat MASSIVELY. You've been doing it for DECADES, that's how you've maintained monolithic one party rule in most major cities for literally over a *century* in many cases. And you commit all your fraud in black districts so you can scream "Racist!" whenever we catch you at it.

*continued*

Qwinn म्हणाले...

And you do it because, with a compliant media and a captured DOJ that looks the other way even under Republican Presidents, that always always works.

No more.

NO MORE.

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR SKULLS.

WE DON'T TRUST YOU. SCREAM "NO EVIDENCE" ALL YOU WANT. SIMPLE AND OBVIOUS AND COMMON SENSE VOTER INTEGRITY RULES PRACTICED IN EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD SHOULDN'T *NEED* EXAMPLES OF WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD TO BE ENACTED.

YOU REMOVE THOSE LAWS BECAUSE YOU CHEAT. AND YOU REMOVE ANY WAY WE COULD CATCH YOU. THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOW WAY TO ACCUMULATE ENOUGH "EVIDENCE" THAT YOU'D EVER ADMIT WAS SUFFICIENT.

And when you're wrong, when we prove inevitably and indisputably that there was massive fraud all along, years after the fact and after you've actually got to run your cities and dominate the population for decades, what fucking good will your apologies do?

Oh. That's right. You'd never fucking apologize anyway.

GO FUCK YOURSELVES.

PURGE THE VOTER ROLLS OF THE DEAD. CONFIRM ALL CURRENT RESIDENTS. REDO THE ELECTION. NO MAIL BALLOTS WHATSOEVER. PHOTO ID. PURPLE FINGERS.

You can do that.

Or as the great Breitbart said - Fuck you. War, motherfuckers. You've destroyed any trust in the voting system. Civil wars have started for much less.

I know that's what you *want*. You've been gaslighting us trying to provoke us into civil war for years. But the only alternative you've left us is to submit to being your slaves.

You think we're cowards because we've let you get away with it for so long.

But you've gone way too far now.

Go.

Fuck.

Yourselves.

mockturtle म्हणाले...

I've never seen a free or fair election in my lifetime. Dems have been stealing elections our entire lives.

This is true, Qwinn. They are just more blatant and perhaps more careless about it than they used to be. In the late 60's-early 70's I worked in the Democratic Party [being naive enough to think you can implement change by working 'in the system'] and found firsthand just how corrupt the Party was. Later, working in the GOP, I honestly didn't see it. Not saying it doesn't exist, as I'm sure it does, but not obvious to low-tier operatives like myself.

mockturtle म्हणाले...

Qwinn, you are in danger of being Fen-ed. Don't want to lose you as we lost Fen. Cool down. Please?

Qwinn म्हणाले...

Wait, what? Fen got booted because he reposted the same nonsense like thousands of times. I posted a two page rant twice in three days.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

And actually, to modify my rant slightly: Absentee only for military overseas and verified medical exemptions.

effinayright म्हणाले...

No evidence of fraud? Watch THIS.

PA poll workers filling out ballots.

https://youtu.be/voIHrza2Jvs

Those folks should be taken out back and shot.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Poll-workers in Philly, marking ballots.

Unless YouTube has taken it down, of course.

doctrev म्हणाले...

Charles Randall of Lawton, Michigan, you are one creepy bastard. I don't think it would be hard for Meade to land a conviction against you for cyberstalking. Keep this up and maybe you'll leave enough information for someone to track you down.

Anyways, some people aren't satisfied with knowing there are tens of millions of Americans at least as angry as Qwinn that own guns. I'm sure there were SS agents in 1942 smugly demanding proof of Nazi crimes- they got more than enough evidence entered against them years later, just before they were taken out and hanged in job lots. So that's fine, but here's a partial list of the specific grievances against the Rat machine this election. I removed the yet unproven allegations about watermarks, which by themselves would be enough to end the election in Trump's favor if proven.

• Trump has already stated he won the election from LEGAL BALLOTS.
• Trump Jr. has already stated his father WON the election.

• Joe Biden already gaffed to say that he "Doesn't need people to vote for him."

• Ballot # CAST HAVE EXCEEDED THE # OF REGISTERED VOTERS.
• Ballots have been CAST BY DEAD PEOPLE BORN IN EARLY 1900's.
• Ballots have been tainted as USPS FRAUDULENTLY BACK-DATED to November 3rd.
• Ballots are likely to be TECHNICALLY FORFEIT as POLL OBSERVERS were BANNED FROM OBSERVING the counting areas.
• When WI and MI conveniently flipped blue, they were instantly called for Biden.
• All swing states are going to remain open and held at 99% until they fraudulently accumulate the bare minimum to flip blue.
• At this rate, all states that have not been called will ultimately fraudulently accumulate ballots until it flips blue, no matter what is done.
• North Carolina was 100% reporting 2 days ago. Why is it still counting and WHY ISNT IT CLOSED?

• Media is continuing to act as the purveyors of bullshit.
• Media had already mysteriously prefaced the 2020 election as being "their right to call the election" and then withdrew their statement.
• Media is going to continue to report on bogus ballot counting to convince people that the process at hand is legitimate. THIS IS A COMPLETE LIE.

• Democrats have screwed up, and they're going on with the show even though they're digging their own grave with every day that passes.
• The fraud is ongoing to this very moment.

readering म्हणाले...

Quinn, should be clear from my comment that I'm just looking at the states 538 predicted going blue by the narrowest margins. Right now, I don't care by how much the predicted red states actually went red or the bluer states actually went blue.

God, you insult like a tween.

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

Poll-workers in Philly, marking ballots.

Unless YouTube has taken it down, of course.


I think they are remaking ballots. Notice how the man is reading a ballot and his colleague is marking the second ballot? (I suspect that is what all the stamping is about.) No idea how it works in Pa., but in Wisconsin this is perfectly normal (see pg. 103). The point is that only the second ballot actually counts.

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

“This is true, Qwinn. They are just more blatant and perhaps more careless about it than they used to be. In the late 60's-early 70's I worked in the Democratic Party [being naive enough to think you can implement change by working 'in the system'] and found firsthand just how corrupt the Party was. Later, working in the GOP, I honestly didn't see it. Not saying it doesn't exist, as I'm sure it does, but not obvious to low-tier operatives like myself.”

In te past, the cheating has been mostly at almost tolerable levels. All along it was assumed that Trump would have to win by more than the usual level of Dem voter fraud. Trump and the Republicans did just that. But the word this time was for the Dems to win at whatever cost, in terms of blatancy. We are talking hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes were required to overcome Trump’s winning voter totals in some of these states. So blatant that they didn’t bother in tens of thousands of votes or more, in filling out more than just the Biden/Harris vote, or locking Republican poll watchers out of major counting locations.

What is so important about a (probably temporary) Bide win? I think that it is to give AntiFA, their Sturmabteilung(SA), a justification for rioting. They can, and no doubt will, blame their violent rioting on having the election stolen from them. The riots were planned for right after the election, with stacks of bricks dropped off Mon and Tues. in convenient, inner city, locations, across the country. I expect that their riots have just been delayed until the counts are complete.

The Nazi SA showed how to do it. They never needed more than a putative majority. Neither do the Dems right now. If the tallies hold, it could mean a Biden/Harris Administration pls three more Senate seats (1 in AZ and 2 in GA). They only need 50 total with the VP to break ties, for complete political control of the government. They can then institutionalize their voter fraud, by, for example, requiring mail in balloting, no purging of voter rolls, etc.

So much for the GOPe, who are all saying “too bad, so sad, we’ll do better next time”. Nope. No next time. The Dems are gambling that they can pull this coup off this time. The Nazis never had a fairly free and honest election after their first win. In 1932, the Nazis didn’t have a majority of the vote, so formed a coalition government with another party. By 1934, Hitler had assumed complete control over the government, supposedly in response to communist rioting. Of course, a lot of that violence was apparently actually being engineered by their very own SA.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

D.D. Driver:

Uh huh. So tell me what mechanism exists to prevent that "remaking" method from being abused to perpetuate massive voter fraud, particularly when Republican poll watchers get kicked out or are kept at a distance?

After four years of the "Trump is colluding with Russia" lie, the "Kavanaugh is a gang rapist" lie, the "There was no legitimate reason for Trump to ask about Biden and Burisma" not-just-lie-but-impeachment, the "Trump tries to kill fish in a koi pond" lie, etc. etc. ad nauseum... are you seriously saying "How dare we not trust the Dems to be honest and fair as they count votes in secret kicking out observers"?

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

"Uh huh. So tell me what mechanism exists to prevent that "remaking" method from being abused to perpetuate massive voter fraud, particularly when Republican poll watchers get kicked out or are kept at a distance?"

Well. When there is a remade ballot each one must trace back to an original absentee ballot. And each one is logged. It's actually pretty easy to figure it out. I think most of the outrage is just the unfamiliarity with the nuts and bolts of how elections work.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

And are we seriously supposed to believe that Biden greatly outperformed Obama ONLY in the exact four cities where all the evidence of fraud is being found, where the observers are kicked out, where hundreds of thousands of ballots for Just-Biden appear at 3am after the cutoff on election night... he only outperforms Obama - by a LOT - in the precise four cities that matter right now... and greatly underperformed Obama absolutely everywhere else?

That's what we're supposed to believe?

Go fuck yourselves.

mockturtle म्हणाले...

D. Driver: 'Remaking ballots'? Never hears of such a thing but it would explain a lot!

Qwinn म्हणाले...

Oh, and the data analysis that found that vote counts being added to the totals somehow mysteriously kept ending in the digits "00" a wildly disparate amount of the time - five standard deviations from the mean?

Completely statistically impossible.

Yeah. Okay.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

To be precise - the repeated "00" additions to the vote total happened ONLY for Biden's vote count. No other candidates.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

The funny thing is, regarding the four-city-only thing, if Biden had actually actively campaigned with the kind of frequency in those 4 cities that Trump did pretty much everywhere, you *might* be able to swing a plausible argument to explain it. But Biden hardly ever left his basement, and when he did he drew crowds of dozens. He did almost all of his campaigning virtually. In no way shape or form does any of that explain why those 4 cities would have such wildly different results as everywhere else. Except for one.

Voter fraud.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

"Quinn, should be clear from my comment that I'm just looking at the states 538 predicted going blue by the narrowest margins. Right now, I don't care by how much the predicted red states actually went red or the bluer states actually went blue."

So what was 538 predicting Ohio would end up as? Cause I could swear I remember it being "in play". Hell, TEXAS was being talked about as being in play.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"But he took no precautions."

Numbnuts...these elections are run by the states.

I'm OK with the death penalty for voter fraud. Are you?

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"And he has a bunch of Bozo the clowns led by Giuliani..."

Rudy is the wrong guy to be the face of this, on that we agree...

readering म्हणाले...

Qwinn, heard of google? 538 predicted both Ohio and Texas red. I didn't write about predictions in general, I wrote about the much maligned Nate Silver.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

m OK with the death penalty for voter fraud. Are you?

A charge of treason sounds about right.

Michael K म्हणाले...

I think most of the outrage is just the unfamiliarity with the nuts and bolts of how elections work.

No, I think nit is due to familiarity on how they are supposed to work. Ejecting election monitors, for example. Sudden tranches of thousands of votes at 4 AM with 100% for one candidate.

Politico had an interesting piece today about how this election was a disaster for Democrats except the presidency (They didn't mention that). There was pretty much a red wave across the country with one exception. Trump. Funny how that happens the same year they mail out 60 million ballots to random people.

I'm Not Sure म्हणाले...

"Ejecting election monitors, for example. Sudden tranches of thousands of votes at 4 AM with 100% for one candidate."

I'm sure that's got to be in the Election Manual somewhere- maybe just the ones Democrats get.

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

THE 2020 ELECTION: FUCKERY IS AFOOT

Qwinn म्हणाले...

Great article Bruce. Don't dismiss Sharpiegate though. It happened in several states, including PA where I live. My wife belongs to a PA Women For Trump private group, and over a dozen women there said they had sharpies practically forced on them when the ballot says specifically to use pens. And PA used double sided ballots... sharpies bleed through to the other side of the ballot. I know because as a poll watcher we had some sample ballots when we got home, and we tested it. Sharpie bled through instantly and completely.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

And hey, how about that "software glitch" that switched 6000 votes from Trump to Biden in one county in Michigan, which is used in 47 other counties?

(No evidence!)

I'm a programmer. For votes to get switched from one to another with a "glitch" presupposes that there exists a bugged function whose putative purpose was to move votes from one candidate to another.

Tell me, for what legitimate purpose did anyone add a line of code that is even *capable* of moving votes from one candidate to another? How does that legitimately *ever* happen?

No evidence my fucking ass.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

Holy shit. That same software was used in *30 states*.

Software that is already established to have moved 6000 votes from Trump to Biden.

"Glitch", my ass.

If the Left continues to defend this, it is an Act Of War.

Readering म्हणाले...

No red wave. Dems have picked up at least one Senate seat and retain majority in HR.

Nichevo म्हणाले...


doctrev said...
Charles Randall of Lawton, Michigan, you are one creepy bastard. I don't think it would be hard for Meade to land a conviction against you for cyberstalking. Keep this up and maybe you'll leave enough information for someone to track you down.


Maybe he has. Thank you. How did you do that?

doctrev म्हणाले...

Nichevo said...

Maybe he has. Thank you. How did you do that?

11/6/20, 10:25 PM

I'm a magic lad. If you or any decent person really want to know, sign up for SocialGalactic and I'll teach you my dark arts.

DINKY DAU 45 म्हणाले...

There's no crying in politics, take the wuppin and move along.IT IS WHAT IT IS..NO THEORY, JUST FACTS, a loser is a loser,accept and move on...

Bilwick म्हणाले...

It looks like a case of "Keep counting until Dementia Joe wins."

Nichevo म्हणाले...

sign up for SocialGalactic

DONE! Oh wait, no registration page. What, I need an invite?

doctrev म्हणाले...

https://subscribe.unauthorized.tv/join/

Some good options there. Unlike Parler, it doesn't demand a million forms of authentication to help the NSA track you down. If you're all about avoiding credit card patterns, use a gift card. It'll be the best $5 you ever spent. Particularly now that Cucks News has utterly destroyed the Ailes legacy.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"A charge of treason sounds about right."

I share your sentiments, but the Constitution defines treason, and I don't think this qualifies.

Nichevo म्हणाले...

OK doc, bear with me here...do I get, say, wranglerstar or Tolkien, or should I get basic subscription?

Qwinn म्हणाले...

Looks like all the Chinese had to do to destroy the Constitution was launch a virus at it.

doctrev म्हणाले...

Nichevo,

Anything you like. You may not approve of everyone there, but it's a LOT better than being banned for nothing on Twitter. Besides, the Tolkien stuff is extremely interesting from a historical perspective. It might take a day or two to be activated, but it's worth it.

Kane म्हणाले...

There is no merit. There is no when, where, how, and by whom. "We've been denied access in critical places" does not cut it. Anyone can make such unfalsifiable accusation. If there was something real, his lawyers would have filed suit like yesterday.

Balfegor म्हणाले...

Re: Kane:

There is no merit. There is no when, where, how, and by whom. "We've been denied access in critical places" does not cut it. Anyone can make such unfalsifiable accusation. If there was something real, his lawyers would have filed suit like yesterday.

They, uh, they did. And they won!

The city of Philadelphia on Thursday appealed a Pennsylvania court decision allowing observers to more closely monitor ballot canvassing, a judgment seen as a legal win for President Donald Trump.

Will it make a difference? Eh, probably not, but it's "disinformation" to pretend there aren't specific instances where observers were blocked from observing the count, or that Trump's team hasn't been filing a flurry of lawsuits in response.

bbear म्हणाले...

For those who want to get down in the weeds a little regarding the usefulness of Benford’s Law in assessing the likelihood of election fraud, here’s a skeptical 2011 academic paper

Benford’s Law and the Detection of Election Fraud
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/political-analysis/article/benfords-law-and-the-detection-of-election-fraud/3B1D64E822371C461AF3C61CE91AAF6D

out of CalTech and the U of Oregon, downloadable as a pdf.

Don’t get me wrong; I think the Dems are crooked as hell. Just that Benford’s Law is unlikely to be dispositive in his case…

Marcus Bressler म्हणाले...

Hey, Qwinn: right on. Not only do they deny, then move the goalposts, then say it is tainted due to its source, then ignore it as "old news" -- then they have the balls to take something that was proven to be false -- the Russian collusion and the dossier -- and months later, keep saying it was real. Just repeating the lie over and over again until the mindless Lib fail into line.

It is a waste of time, as you said, to provide them evidence. Fuck 'em and the horse they rode in on. I fear a Trump loss but pray for a miracle. Their accomplices in the MSM need to be tarred and feathered -- as a start.

One final warning: the day I wind up on someone's "LIST" is the day they stop being able to make such Lists. Just take off their thumb and forefinger.

THEOLDMAN

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