Said Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, in an interview with the NYT yesterday.
Start a homestead? You mean something like this? —
From "What Is Homesteading?" (Treehugger): "Ultimately, the broadest definition is that it is a lifestyle with a commitment to self-sufficiency. This can encompass growing and preserving food; providing your own electricity with solar, wind or water; and even making your own fabric and clothing. Some homesteaders aspire never to use money; they want to make or barter for everything they need...."
Wikipedia, "Homesteading": "Pursued in different ways around the world—and in different historical eras—homesteading is generally differentiated from rural villages or commune living by isolation (either socially or physically) of the homestead.... Modern homesteaders often use renewable energy options including solar electricity and wind power. Many also choose to plant and grow heirloom vegetables and to raise heritage livestock."
Is it strange that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is talking about homesteading? I hear in her statement something like: You people don't deserve me; I was made for better things. And I don't think that's arrogant or mere teasing. Who belongs in politics?!
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If she quickly homesteads in California the governor might have a higher office for her.
Good Lord what odd thoughts must rattle around in that empty space between those big ears.
What she really means is “I thought I’d get in on the grift right away”. No darlin, you gotta be there a couple of terms before the big bucks start showing up. And you really need a foundation to do a proper job of laundering the grift.
The good farmland was taken long ago. I did meet several people who gave it a shot back in the day, but they had enough money to hire other people to do the work. It didn't last, of course.
She's hoping for an Animal Farm.
One good thing about being 63 (still living is #1) is I won't live long enough to have AOC and her ilk gain very much. They would be going down a path but the impact will be on the young. Not my problem. tbh
Evita does not sing for me.
She sings for herself.
She wants a socialist utopia.
Hundreds of millions may have to Epstein themselves to achieve her goals.
Eggs.
Omelettes.
I will never be a serf.
stever,
How long between 1917 and the mass graves in Ukraine?
Think again hoarder.
She is poorly educated, poorly prepared for life, and in way over her head. I am hoping with the one or two seats NY will lose after the re-apportionment of the House that the NY assembly does away with her district. I think she is disliked enough there that it could happen. She and the nation would be better off. It is a sign of the decline of our nation that someone so vacuous gets so much attention (and of course our diminished news media is to blame as well).
Little girl needs to learn some civics. She is a POX on our Politics. She is fanning the flames of hatred and violence every time she opens that big mouth of hers.
Start a homestead, run a re-education camp. Tomato tomahto.
Assailing Trump was easy, popular in the media. Trump's open Twitter criticism did not threaten her and helped AOC in her party and district.
Here she's basically admitting her value to the Democrats is now diminished, that it's going to be a much rockier road if she takes on Biden and the Democrat establishment, and that the backlash will be clandestine and more vicious.
AOC is revealing what she knows about her party's motives and tactics.
AOC: the dimbulb La Pasionaira.
AOC triggers Drumpf fans version 987.
Enjoy being redistricted into retirement, toots. Too bad you can't go back to tending bar, thanks to your pal DeBlasio.
Until the very last line I honestly thought that was a Trump quote.
The ravings of a Congress-critter in a 77% Dem district ought not be taken as illuminating the "deeper truths."
Her political philosophy is all about taking from some and distributing to others. It seems incongruent that she would be contemplating a life of self-sufficiency.
"Ultimately, the broadest definition is that it is a lifestyle with a commitment to self-sufficiency. This can encompass growing and preserving food; providing your own electricity with solar, wind or water; and even making your own fabric and clothing. Some homesteaders aspire never to use money; they want to make or barter for everything they need...."
AOC isn't a socialist! She's an Anarcho-Syndicalist, who wants to start her own commune!
(Obligatory Monty Python Dennis The Peasant link here.)
She wants to make lists of her political enemies for retribution. She's a totalitarian shit.
This is classic celebrity branding, after a few years on the scene they claim they don't want to be famous and would be happy going to back to how their lives were before fame until people realise it's a giant sham. After that happens they go back to trying to be the most famous person they can be like it never happened and then ever so often they act like they don't really care about being successful to take pressure of themselves.
I'm not even sure she really cares about the political dynamics of what she says as her actions consistently demonstrate that building her own personal brand is all she really cares about. Abolish ICE for instance is a nonsensical from a political perspective but it sure is a great way to get 18-34 Females to believe in your brand and she is definitely doing a great job courting them.
Homesteading is the hardest job you'll ever love, where you will manage the wilderness, grow flora, tend fauna, and raise baby lives that matter.
AOC is an enemy to the ruling wing of her Party. Her Party is currently controlled by the corrupt wing, and her wing, the insane wing, want to cast out the corrupt wing so they gain direct access to the graft opportunities currently controlled by the corrupt wing.
She wants to make lists of her political enemies for retribution. She's a totalitarian shit.
Retributive, sometimes redistributive change. The very model of a Soup... Green Nazi. No veggies for you!
"say you’re bad because you actually append your name to your opinion"
Actually, they say you're bad because you append your name to a bad opinion.
But self-awareness is not a progs' strong suit.
"You don't deserve me"
It's been ever thus with progs--they are too good for us, since we don't know what's good for us, hence we need them in charge all the more.
Her job probably isn't all that much fun. She has no seniority, she has to run every 2 years, which has to be a drag, and it's mostly constituent services on a day-to-day basis. Plus her age group, they expect fun and fascinating things to happen. Not dull old boring work. That's why she did the Vanity Fair cover, although that publication is so elitist it seems kind of hypocritical on her part.
But if she doesn't like hard and thankless, she should definitely stay far away from farming. That's all homesteading is, right? farming. You eat what you can grow or kill, nothing gets wasted, everything has a use and you're a slave to the weather and your crops or your herd.
”Her political philosophy is all about taking from some and distributing to others.”
This is how we operate now. The govt. takes the people’s money and funnels it to the parasitic military, to the intelligence agencies, to the financial interests and big corporations. Why do you object to our money being spent on us, the taxpayers?
This is a political meme for AOC by the NY Times. "Homestead", does she even know what that is? Her election wasn't a "Fluke". The idiot Congressman Crowley who held this seat for 20 years took it for granted - he didn't need to put out much effort. Hell I think it's D + 30. But, anyone running in this District with a Hispanic surname and D after their name would've won back in 2018. In 2020 District 14 recorded only 155,000 people actually voting. AOC got 79% of the votes. Yet what has she accomplished except for pose in Vogue with expensive clothes and jewelry? This entire article is a classic propoganda B.S. planted article and payment-in-kind to AOC's election by the NY Times.
Perhaps she can tend bar at her homestead...
If true, it's an endearing statement. I don't see it as "you don't deserve me," but as "a lot of this sucks and I don't know that I need this crap in my life," which is an attitude I like to see in a politician. Many of them desperately want to be in office and can't do anything outside of government.
Marry a Navajo; raise sheep on the rez---it's the simple life for AOC. Or something like that.
She's going to have a problem; Biden is senile, but some folks can count the 70 million plus--7 million more votes than last time for Trump. We'll see what happens on pushback from those folks--while Pelosi and the AOC posse are pushing from the other side. AOC can rant, but she's either going to get redistricted or drown in the coming 2022 purge of House Democrats.
She can then hold a Nixon style press conference and tell the world, "I won't be around for you to kick anymore." An outcome devoutly to be desired.
Homesteading, when discussed by New York liberals, isn't about self sufficiency or reliance on one's own abilities. It is about getting the hell away from the city and all its people. People everywhere, who all want, want, want all the time some of her, some of her time, some of her time for themselves.
She could have said sailing solo around the world, a few decades back when that activity was still a popular public news item. She could have said hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. She could have said going to Nepal and learning Buddhism.
All she is doing here is saying the recent elections were a lot of time and trouble, and she doesn't think she should have to do that. Perhaps it would be better is correct-thinking people like her were just installed in office for life, without all that bother of public interaction, and without all the risk and work required running in an election.
She should be nowhere near any authority or position of trust. Twenty years from now, her listing of Trump supporters for future retribution will be seen as exactly the equivalent of Nixon's enemies list, Stalin's purges (hopefully without the murders) and making Jews wear yellow stars in prewar Germany. To hell with her little totalitarian self.
"Birkel said...
stever,
How long between 1917 and the mass graves in Ukraine?
Think again hoarder."
Birkel - if you knew my circumstances, you'd know my apathy.
“She wants to make lists of her political enemies for retribution. She's a totalitarian shit.”
Meh, she’s scraping for relevance and political survival now that the kleptocrat Establishment is back in charge. Trump merely laughed at her. Those motherfuckers are going to curb-stomp her. They have to.
Funny how the Trump years are going to be looked back on as The Good Old Days by the Hysterical Left. Never did their self-dramatization seem so real. Never had their status anxiety been so easy to assuage.
I'll take the $175,000.00 a year plus perks, but you should be thanking me.
Funny to watch Birkolbermann rant about the Bolsheviks, considering his deranged hatred of the chief architect of the Cold War!
"Some homesteaders aspire never to use money; they want to make or barter for everything they need...."
That's all well and good, but what will she do when she finds the the butcher and baker don't need any more pink pussy hats?
“This is how we operate now. The govt. takes the people’s money and funnels it to the parasitic military, to the intelligence agencies, to the financial interests and big corporations. Why do you object to our money being spent on us, the taxpayers?”
Oh, well. By that reasoning you should have no objection to me just hanging onto it. My money spent on me.
I miss the old kulaks ‘n’ gulags Commies. The current iteration is so lightweight.
The day after the revolution succeeds, all the true revolutionaries are shot.
I think she will try to knock off Schumer. The Senate is easier. And that is why Chucky will do his best to redistrict her out of office.
Robert Cook said...
This is how we operate now. The govt. takes the people’s money and funnels it to the parasitic military, to the intelligence agencies, to the financial interests and big corporations.
11/8/20, 11:09 AM
Truer words never spoken, and I mean that.
I don't know why right-wing nationalists hate the woman this much: I suspect her story is as triggering to them as Donald Trump's is to the left. I fully agree with the people who say that she's in the crosshairs of the Biden "administration," possibly as much as Trump himself. That's an absolutely bizarre way to treat a major Congressional fundraiser and rising star in the party, and it's equally bizarre that she's contemplating the Owen Benjamin route instead of mapping out a meteoric rise to power.
... unless, that is, you realize that there's a manic desperation among American liberals for Trump to just CONCEDE and let the hard part be over. You realize that the enthusiasm for Joe Biden among actual socialists (not as Trump defines the term in campaign rallies) is as soft as can be.
I personally wouldn't put AOC atop my own enemies list. Oh, I know she created a list of Trump supporters to hunt down, but someone would have. In future the existence of the proscription list is going to be incredibly useful to radicalize the Fuddiest part of the Republican base.
It's almost like she intended that outcome.
She strikes me as a limelight-seeker so it's not likely she'd be content on a small farm. But plenty of people are doing just that. We had a hobby farm after we retired and, while it was fun and satisfying, it was a LOT more work than we expected. I still miss my chickens, though...
One of my favorite Christmas movies is Holiday Inn. Entertainer Bing decides to leave the rat race for an easier life, buying a farm in rural N.H. Early on he has a nervous breakdown and the rest of the film is his return to show biz.
Homesteading. :snort:
Oh, it’s arrogant. But I’m not persuaded arrogance warrants the negative press it gets. Isn’t arrogance just unwarranted confidence? How can you tell whether confidence is warranted or not regarding something in which you are not yourself expert? How much of the charge of “arrogance” is just tone-policing? Physicists are often described as an arrogant bunch, but physics is the hardest of the hard sciences—even if String Theory is ridiculous (and I think it is!) I haven’t seen any credible assertion that the math is inconsistent with what we know about quantum mechanics; the arguments against it are meta-arguments about the scientific method. Physicists in general deal in facts. F=ma whether you like it or not.
Politicians have to be arrogant enough to believe—rightly or wrongly—they can help their constituents. That they may try to help their constituents by legislating according to their constituents’ will or by legislating against their will but “for their own good” makes no difference to the level of arrogance required—only whether that arrogance is seen in a positive or negative light, and even that is predicated on the judge’s preconceptions regarding political power (e.g. we’re already seeing handwringing about “gridlock” if the Republicans hold the Senate, because checks and balances only obtain when the party you disagree with most controls one of the branches of the federal government).
Marry a Navajo; raise sheep on the rez
That's what I thought of at first - a Navajo trailer in the middle of nowhere. And because The Homestead Act of 1862 facilitated the displacement and assimilation of Amerindians.
She's got a pretty good head start on Animal Farm.
Boo-hoo. When politicians say they don't know why they bother with politics you know that they know why they bother. It's the applause and attention for a start.
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"Back to the land" movements happen in cycles: The 1910s, the 1930s, the 1970s. We could be overdue for one now. The reason for the absence of a new movement may be that the kind of young people who went off to live on communes are now too well connected to the urban world by technology or that they found easy berths in the economy. The decline of journalism and the universities could mean that more young people will turn to homesteading, back to the land movements like we saw fifty years ago. But why didn't the 2008 crash provoke such a reaction?
My God. I just thought of this becoming a Hallmark movie.
"A young Congressional superstar had everything she wanted. But when she settled down on the farm, she found more than she'd ever dreamed of."
"Who belongs in politics?!"
The president elect?
Homesteading would be great, but it’s hard to meet girls.
I do believe that she would like to plant things.
Wait until she finds out farming is seven days a week sunup to sundown. That’s exactly why my farmer grandfather sent his kids to college. So they wouldn’t farm.
"the violence"? No doubt she means all those Democratic cities burned down by roving right-wing gangs.
I’m guessing she’s pushing through a bill to provide federal subsidies for “self-sufficient” homesteaders.
She sounds to me like she's going through what a lot of pretty girls/women go through. She's just used to going through life with a little less criticism, a little more kindness toward her, a little more positive attention. And now she's gotten a lot of attention - in part because she's pretty!- but it's not the kind of job that only comes with praise. And she isn't ready for it.
It reminds me of a story Adam Carolla tells. He had a pretty blonde neighbor woman who was talking to him about how nice the landscaper was. He was such a sweet man, he brought her homemade pies! And Adam said, she just thinks we live in a world where the landscaper brings people pies. She didn't realize she was beautiful and that's why she was getting the pies.
I think that's how AOC's experience in Congress (and life) has been, and its no fun to be the girl who suddenly isn't getting all the pies.
Ken B continues to lie about me taking an anti-Eisenhower position.
Ken B is a liar.
"She can then hold a Nixon style press conference and tell the world, "I won't be around for you to kick anymore." An outcome devoutly to be desired."
You do know what happened six years after that press conference, right?
I agree with Cook, except that the only President in the postwar era who has successfully bucked them is Eisenhower in the Suez Crisis and his warning to Jack Kennedy to stay out of the French’s troubles in Viet Nam. Nixon managed to buck the military industrial complex, somewhat. Both Nixon and Trump were viciously attacked by the FBI, BTW
Look at the “wars” Nixon *started.*
http://archive.jsonline.com/news/opinion/nixons-five-wars-b65ohdp-159255405.html
None, apparently. I could be wrong, but I assume that if he started an actual war, it would have been mentioned. I don’t recall one. All he did was end the Viet Nam War and try to make peace with China.
Had the election not been stolen for Kennedy by the Mob in 1960, we probably never would have gotten involved in Viet Nam.
Let’s search further
President Nixon pursued two important policies that both culminated in 1972. In February he visited Beijing, setting in motion normalization of relations with the People's Republic of China. In May, he traveled to the Soviet Union and signed agreements that contained the results of the first Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty talks (SALT I), and new negotiations were begun to extend further arms control and disarmament measures.
Seems a lot like Trump.
Ah yes, opposition from the State Department
Although Secretary Rogers [State Department] still had broad responsibility for foreign policy, including Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Latin America, and international organizations, the Department of State resented its exclusion from key policy decisions, and the Secretary continually fought to make his views known.
This is how you get impeached. It was all there, right out in the open.
My God. I just thought of this becoming a Hallmark movie.
"A young Congressional superstar had everything she wanted. But when she settled down on the farm, she found more than she'd ever dreamed of."
Hunky widower who works with his hands, drives a pick-up, and has an adorable son?
What I meant to get at with the above post is that Cook should have voted for Trump. No new wars, four years. Bolton tried to get him into a hot war with Iran too. The press was right there, banging the war drums. The press have been banging to war drums against Putin for four years now.
This is why I am beginning to seriously agree with buwaya that maybe a monarchy is the way to go. Democracies are just too easily bamboozled. Even people who try to think, like Robert Cook. Why do you think that the left calls out Trump every time they detect some random similarity with Hitler’s propaganda? Because they have studied his propaganda techniques slavishly, as well as other techniques Hitler used to gain total power, which is their goal, techniques like sending violent thugs to opposition rallies to create an air of disorder and violence. Creating external enemies “Russia Russia Russia”
It looks like they may have won, they are creating the appearance of having won, anyway. I know better than to trust these appearances, though.
Carter held out pretty well against the military industrial complex, and the press rewarded him with headlines like “More mush from the wimp."
I see the Times has given Joe a halo.
Violence?
"A young Congressional superstar had everything she wanted. But when she settled down on the farm, she found more than she'd ever dreamed of."
And where would she homestead (which legally is probably not available anymore, at least in the lower 48)? One place she surely couldn’t do it is in NYC, which is most of what she knows. You can’t be economically independent with roof top gardens, and windmills on top of high rises. You can play at it. Nothing more. You need acres of land to support yourself and your family. Depending on where, it could be as high as several sections (e.g. the Bundys in Clark County, NV). And the good farmland is long gone (it was, arguably, the reason that the Cherokee were forced onto their Trail of Tears two centuries ago - they had kept the good land, and sold the marginal farmland to the White settlers). In much of MT, where we spend half the year, most of those making a decent living farming, either are on family farms, or came in with a lot of money to buy a decent farm or ranch.
Maybe because I bought that subdivision, I got on the email mailing list for some real estate brokers specializing in selling ranches and farms. Not a single one I saw offered this last year has been anywhere close to economically viable, after factoring in the cost of buying the land, even at today’s low interest rates. Probably not by a factor of 2 or more. Of course, that is in fashionable MT, so other parts of the country might come closer to break even. Maybe. But I doubt it.
There was a reason that the peasants in China rushed to the cities for middle class jobs, and why my paternal grandparents left their farms in OK better than a century ago, to go to college, and move to a big city (Denver for them). And that reason is that a lot of farming and ranching is hard work, that can easily take over your life. My kid’s wedding next year is planned in VT, due their fiancé’s father and brother being tied to their dairy farm, instead of in CO, where they live along with many of their friends. You just can’t drop everything and travel, when you want to, if you make your living farming or ranching. The cows have to be milked every day, and the crops will rot in the fields, if you don’t harvest them when you should (and with many crops, you can’t plan for such more an a week out). It is also highly variable - some years are good, and others are bad. Early frost. Late rains. Drought. All affect whether you eat well, or need to apply for food stamps yourself, that year. This, on legitimate farmland, and not in a highly urban environment, where actual farmland is almost nonexistent, such as where AOC has spent most of her life.
They say that you can make a small fortune in agriculture if you start out with a large fortune.
She's hoping for an Animal Farm.
Well done...
I want her - dead!
I want her supporters - dead!
I want her district burned to ground!
I want to go over and piss on the ashes!
Apologies to Deniro/Capone in The Untouchables.
Is it strange that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is talking about homesteading?
Its one of those words that rattles around global leftie politics. She dreams of African style confiscation of productive farms and leaving the owners like Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru
Hunky widower who works with his hands, drives a pick-up, and has an adorable son?
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Would more likely be a limpwristed, weak, bearded soyboy who drives a Prius, works at a non-profit and has a young gender-noncomforming something or other.
And celebrates Kwaanza.
Blogger TwoAndAHalfCents said...
Until the very last line I honestly thought that was a Trump quote.
You know, I thought so, too.
"Would more likely be a limpwristed, weak, bearded soyboy who drives a Prius, works at a non-profit and has a young gender-noncomforming something or other.”
No, and that’s pretty much why they have all but banned rom-coms.
"... unless, that is, you realize that there's a manic desperation among American liberals for Trump to just CONCEDE and let the hard part be over."
Which hard part? Not having to wake up every morning with Hitler in the White House, or having to face the fact that your party committed election fraud?
Lurker21 said...
Hunky widower who works with his hands, drives a pick-up, and has an adorable son?
11/8/20, 12:16 PM
Exactly. Not even other leftie "cis" women want the soy. And AOC has options, whatever anyone else tries to tell you. I'm only surprised she's stuck with her current "domestic partner" instead of riding the wave, but it may indicate integrity that you don't see in politics.
Or just be focus-tested. Who knows. Speculating on personal lives is fun, but I draw the line when it becomes actual work.
Look, another blue heeler in that homesteader's video!
I'm Not Sure said...
Which hard part? Not having to wake up every morning with Hitler in the White House, or having to face the fact that your party committed election fraud?
11/8/20, 1:05 PM
What they want is for Donald Trump to concede. That means avoiding a bloody Supreme Court fight and a reversal of their obvious fraud.
"Who belongs in politics?!"
The president elect?
Who the fuck is that?
Is that in the Constitution?
I missed that term when i read it.....please help allviate my ignorance.
Her babbling reminds me of the nuns in grade school who reminded us that empty cans made the most noise.
"Who belongs in politics?!"
I am starting a project with some friends. I want to recruit some people from this forum at some point. This is the rough draft mission statement:
Our goal is to improve humanity.
This is a broad target including individuals, family units, socio-political arrangements at every level, and humanity as a whole. This project starts as a review of our history as a species. What drives our decision making. How we order our social structures. How instincts make our decisions for us.
The primary goal of every animal is to pass it's genes on to subsequent generations. Throughout history there are three patterns that play out repeatedly in human affairs that are directly derived from our primary animal instinct:
1. Seek safety and security and basic needs.
2. The attraction of corruptible individuals to acquire positions of power within our sociopolitical accords.
3. Spread our genes into other pools.
These three guidelines are the River of History. History provides countless examples of the vast majority of individuals in a group to seek the protection and providence of the strong while a simultaneously overwhelming tendency for these individuals or sociological alliances that have power to be corrupt and at best ambivalent to the needs of the people they rule. In almost every instance they are extraordinarily hostile to challenges to their power. Throughout history most governing mandates have had the continuing power of the ruling class in mind. Every now and then finding new groups of subservient people creeps in. For the most part anything beyond providing basics and keeping the masses content or diverted is not a consideration.
Sociological constructions like Law, Regulation, Bureaucracy, Slavery, Police, Armies, Taxes, Religion with few deviations have been constructed and designed to keep humanity in the channels of the River. Even disruptive changes like Social Media are eventually turned into tools that keep humans in the channel of the River.
The River of History is stifling to human development and it drives humanity down a path that has a conclusion. It will be a nasty conclusion. There are many scenarios but they are all driven by a Corrupt Ruling Class that uses and loses control of a new technology they designed to maintain control or spread their genes. These rulers are driven by their animal instincts and have a tendency to make bad decisions. As technology improves their bad decisions will increase in their effect until it results in the end of our species. The River of History will always be a race between growth and catastrophe and we only need to lose the race once.
Axiom: Humans must not submit to animals.
Come on, "homesteading" is just a shout out to her base. An assurance she shares their fantasies. Don't all uber woke hipsters daydream of homesteading as they quarantine in their million dollar condos, munching sustainably farmed organic edibles, sipping coffee picked by only the most well paid Columbians and shipped thousands of miles with only green fuels.
Robert Cook said...
”Her political philosophy is all about taking from some and distributing to others.”
This is how we operate now. The govt. takes the people’s money and funnels it to the parasitic military, to the intelligence agencies, to the financial interests and big corporations. Why do you object to our money being spent on us, the taxpayers?
I want to see if you can escape your channels. You show glimmers of promise.
But for now you are stuck in animal thinking patterns.
There is another option here. It starts with whether or not you think the government should be taking in the first place.
Why does one group need to take from another group to achieve goals?
Why do they generally use government to do that?
Is there another way?
Don’t cry for me, Venezuela
—- Sandy Cortez, AOC.
Exactly. Not even other leftie "cis" women want the soy.
That's right! Look at the guys Gloria Steinem dated: Powerful men, either financially, politically or physically.
So AOC is thinking of homesteading. Recall that she previously commented on agriculture.
Ocasio-Cortez likens growing cauliflower to colonialism.
“When someone says that it’s ‘too hard’ to do a green space that grows yuca instead of, I dunno, cauliflower or something, what you’re doing is you’re taking a colonial approach to environmentalism,” the 29-year-old freshman congresswoman says in an Instagram video.
If AOC decides to "homestead" in NY state or anywhere north of say, Florida, she'll find out that, "colonialist" or not, cauliflower is a lot easier to grow than yuca.
AOC informs us that cauliflower is "colonialist," because settlers brought it from Europe.BTW, isn't somewhat colonialist to bring yuca/casava to North America a plant that originated in South America?
Herbert Hoover was probably one of the higher IQ presidents, even though he is remembered a failure. He was raised someplace like Iowa, almost on the frontier, then Stanford and a big career. May have lived in NYC in an apartment more than any other single place. Asked about the possibility of living in a village in the midwest again, he said something like: that would be like living in a Montessori School.
https://twitter.com/notstevenwhite/status/1325523398282391552
AOC wants to reach out to white folks across the country. As long as they’re not racist.
Howard said...
"AOC triggers Drumpf fans version 987."
I doubt she could trigger a fire alarm if she was on fire.
Come to think of it. Your intellect leaves a lot to be desired as well. What were you again? a high school social studies teacher?
You need acres of land to support yourself and your family.
Brigham Young figured 2 1/2 acres per family, that is why the original town plans were based around 10 acre square blocks with a house at each corner. Same in Salt Lake City except for an area on the hillside set apart for tradesmen and having smaller blocks. But no one was going to make money on such small allotments. There were larger farms outside the towns themselves.
"AOC triggers Drumpf fans version 987."
Is the successor to this version the 981?
That’s how Porsche works.
BTW a 981 would be a good TT replacement if Meadehouse gets somewhere w/ better weather.
Still, better would be a 911 4. Don’t go back further than a 997 w/ good spec/service/miles, if budget matters. Burt newer would be better. IMHO.
The woman in the homesteading video really makes a good impression. She emphasizes what you need to do to be successful: lots of sacrifice of material niceties, lots of very very hard work, willingness to acquire skills and do jobs that are the opposite of glamorous (making bullets, cleaning bathrooms, roofing), budgeting very carefully and smartly. It's not just playing with the dog and photographing the calves and trying out a neat new recipe with those tomatoes you grew.
Attonasi said...
Axiom: Humans must not submit to animals.
11/8/20, 1:31 PM
A deer is a swift creature, a bull is a strong creature, a chimp is a smart creature. All submit to predators in some manner or another. Some humans extrapolate Homo sapiens being an apex predator to mean that all humans are apex predators, but there's sufficient evidence that some humans are sub-herbivores. You can try to improve humanity as a whole, but like most utopian ideologies I think you'll be dreadfully disappointed by the results.
Maybe she sees the possibility of the Democrats redistricting her out of existence? I think she should challenge Schumer. That would be fun.
AZ Bob suggests: I think she should challenge Schumer. That would be fun.
The Democratic Establishment wouldn't let that happen. She is probably beginning to realize that publicity ≠ power.
Hahaha. The last homesteads in the US were available in AK until 1984(?). I had a couple of friends that did it. They had to be present on the land 3 out of 5 years to get the 20 acres. I doubt if she is cut out for it. Probably just looking for a "we need you ObiWan" response. Maybe she was planning on being a squatter. Fits the worldview. What yours is mine.
There have always been people who talked like AOC in Congress, but, more often than not, they have looked like Bella Abzug. You young people don't realize how easy you have it with AOC.
Ironically, AOC's redistribution politics help White Trash Trumpers from the federal tax recipient useless eater red states
”Her political philosophy is all about taking from some and distributing to others.”
"This is how we operate now. The govt. takes the people’s money and funnels it to the parasitic military, to the intelligence agencies, to the financial interests and big corporations. Why do you object to our money being spent on us, the taxpayers?"
The military protects me as do the intelligence agencies. I benefit from their operations. Big corporations provide the jobs and investment in these corporations provide a healthy income in retirement for many of us. Corporate products also make it possible for me to live in virtual luxury, a luxury available to every citizen of this country. I'm grateful for the military, intelligence agencies, and corporations. The money is being spent on me, the taxpayer.
Probably the same impulse that drove Marie Antoinette to her little hobby farm at Petite Trianon.
Being 'in' politics as a life-long avocation or profession is offensive to the American ideal. Doing so, is the opposite of public service. Those that do make a career of it are in it for the money and the power. I was once very much opposed to term limits, mainly because having to stand for election every few years meant that the voters could term limit anyone of these people. But the fact is the voters don't, they actually do the opposite. I would love to see term limits for all state and federal elective offices.
Howard said...
Ironically, AOC's redistribution politics help White Trash Trumpers from the federal tax recipient useless eater red states
11/8/20, 3:20 PM
I'm pretty sure you're trolling, but I suspect that without the red states of the Midwest we'd see a lot of "useless eaters" in every American city.
The time may have come to test my theory.
LOL. Howard thinks he's being clever.
When she first came on the political scene, I argued, right here, that we shouldn’t give her the prominence of calling her AOC. She is of no importance. Ignore her, and she’ll go away.
Howard,
The federal income tax laws and rates are the same in all 50 states. It's the people who Democrats claim that don't pay their fair in taxes, living in red and blue states, who pay for the welfare for people who don't pay any federal income tax.
Here are the top 10 states with the highest welfare per capita
1. New York - $3,305
2. Alaska - $3,020
3. Massachusetts - $2,910
4. Vermont - $2,842
5. Minnesota - $2,805
6. New Mexico - $2,741
7. Delaware - $2,544
8. Maine - $2,530
9. Oregon - $2,520
10. Kentucky - $2,517
Here are the top 10 states with the lowest welfare per capita
10. Idaho - $1430
9. Virginia - $1,429
8. Nebraska - $1,413
7. Nevada - $1,411
6. Texas - $1,305
5. North Carolina- $1,303
4. Florida - $1,274
3. South Dakota- $1,219
2. Utah - $1,149
1. Georgia - $1,126
She's an airhead and a commie, but she has a job with MSNBC any time she wants it. She's not going away.
AND she can rock a cashmere sweater fer shizz.
I'll admit that I've not read any comments, but:
Homesteading with anything modern?
I'm sorry, but that's silly.
did you develop a windmill to create electricity?
did you develop solar panels?
It's a silly thought that you are allowed anything 'modern';
give them 40 acres and a plow. The rest is up to them.
Politics' loss would be the Long Island Ice Tea's gain.
I hope she quits. The fewer hardline fringies, of whatever, the better.
(reader_iam, lori)
"Picture Me"
-- an attention whore
The odds of AOC having an unwavering, logical position on anything rapidly approaches zero.
You can play at it. Nothing more. You need acres of land to support yourself and your family.
That's the reality. It's amazing the amount of work needed to provide a balanced diet. But in commune fantasyland it's just a small garden on the roof that magically provides all the food we need! "Why we had so many tomatoes last year we had to give them away!"
She's not serious about homesteading. She's appealing to her base. The base in NYC. The one that dreams about fresh air in the countryside. They should be so lucky she's in the halls of power fighting for them. She could go do something else.
It's an elite and Millenial message wrapped into one. Oh she's running for higher office. This is a powertalk message to the powers that be to make sure to plan for her in the coming administration. She is the heir apparent for Bernie Sanders.
Schumer better start working on that Gillibrand->AOC senate swap. Or he's going to be out of office in 2 years.
The odds of AOC having an unwavering, logical position on anything rapidly approaches zero.
You confuse AOC off the cuff with AOC planned messaging like this. This has persuasiveness. This is a planned message. She has good people behind her and she's sharp enough to incorporate their messaging and she's learning quick. Yes, her positions are far left and out of mainstream, but if you look at it in a persuasion filter, she's pacing and leading with the true base of her party.
She'll be around for a long time. Or she'll get smashed like a bug by the establishment DNC. I think its too late for that though. They needed to do that before last years primary.
AOC is the most Trump-like of the DNC.
As one of my favorite commenters notes repeatedly the media is a tool being used by larger interests and AOC is just a WWF villain to get us riled up.
AOC is a pretty unremarkable intellect and would not even be known to us unless the media continually pushed her nonsense. What has she ever really done? Why should we even care what a congress person from an uber liberal district in new york has to say about anything?
In college we would have said she was a NTBTA "Nice tits, but that's about all"
"2. Alaska - $3,020"
This might be misleading as it's probably a lot of $$$ from the Federal oil-land payouts to native Alaskans. Maybe I'm wrong and it's not quite the same. DuckDuckGo was not too helpful.
The "Please don't go Alexandria, we love you" speech.
"AOC is a pretty unremarkable intellect...."
That, I think, is the kindest way of describing her that I have ever heard. You are a good person.
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