November 8, 2020

At the Sunrise Café...

IMG_1107 ... you can talk about whatever you like.

56 comments:

Qwinn said...

So challenge to all the other leftists here (Readering has already proven he can't answer it, I bet the same will be true for all of you):

Provide a plausible legitimate justification for why PA Democrats are suing to overturn the court decision affirming that Republicans must be allowed to observe the count as established by long standing law.

This shouldn't be so fucking hard, yet for some reason, you all seem to have nothing.

Qwinn said...

Failure to provide any egitimate justification implicitly concedes that the motive for that lawsuit is (as is obvious) an illegitimate effort to conceal voter fraud.

Joe Smith said...

I am sick to death about all the talk of 'healing.'

Conservatives in this country have not been tearing the country apart these last number of years.

Mr Wibble said...

Question for the lawyers and law profs here: since the issue of court packing is likely to not go away anytime soon, especially if the Dems win the GA runoff elections, what power does SCOTUS have to resist any packing attempts? For example, could the court respond to any vote to expand it by imposing a rule that only the Chief Justice and the eight senior associate justices vote on cases, with the rest of the court serving in an advisory capacity, replacing one of the nine votes when needed, and performing duties related to the circuit courts?

mandrewa said...

Scott Adams: Extraordinary statistical evidence for vote fraud

I agree with him. The question is does this matter for the courts? Will the courts let math influence their rulings?

Another question, which has been on my mind, is what was the actual real vote? There are certain kinds of vote fraud that we cannot detect, but there are still many others that you can kind of see in the data.

How much did Trump actually win by, if we remove all of the votes where there is clear statistically evidence that they were fabricated?

And here's another question I wonder about. I'm not sure it matters, but maybe it does. What percent of the black population actually voted for Biden-Harris, when we take out the invented votes?

Bilwick said...

I rarely listen to NPR since the local public radio station replaced their classical music programming with leftists talking to other leftists; but today I happened upon the station as they were doing some election analysis, and some guy who sounded like a stereotypical soyboy was gushing with almost schoolgirl giddiness about how Biden's victory means a real Renaissance in the federal government. I thought: Behold--the perfect serf.

boatbuilder said...

When I was told by my local news radio station that Biden had been declared president, I thought it was BS but I assumed that the PA Secretary of State had made some sort of announcement, or the Supreme Court had preemptively rejected Trumps challenges, or something substantive.
I went out and played golf.
It is possible that I am mistaken and I missed something; however it appears that the “declaration” that Biden is president is nothing more than the media deciding that they think Biden has the votes.
And we are supposed to accept that? Really.

Political Junkie said...

Out of 36 TX congressional districts, all but one are called.
The one remaining is district 24, where (R) Beth Van Duyne leads (D) Candace Valenzuela by 4600 votes with 100% of the vote counted.
I wondered why the race had not been called/conceded, and while doing a morning power walk generated this guesstimate.
John Cornyn is 68 and this could be his last term.
Ted Cruz might not run again if he runs for president or vice president.
Beth Van Duyne could be the next TX senator.
She was mayor of Irving, TX during the "Muslim clock boy" incident, and like Clint Eastwood, ran for local office after disagreements/frustrations with Irving elected officials and bureaucrats.

So, D bigwigs might desire to derail (abort) her political career.

Just one person's guess, but I did call Georgia Pres correctly in an AA post. I hope I am wrong on the Georgia senate races.

Thanks for reading.

Qwinn said...

I've told the Trump lawyer I'm communicating with that I am willing to have this in my declaration regarding the district for which I was the certified poll watcher:

"Despite in-person voting being overwhelmingly for Donald Trump (over 64%), Joe Biden performed several percentage points higher in the category 'mail in ballots' that he did in the category 'registered Democrats', despite only 66% of mail in ballots having been requested by registered Democrats, based upon publicly available records obtained from Bucks County."

Narr said...

Alex Trebeck dead. RIP.

Narr
I'll take "Great Gameshow Hosts" for 2000, Alex

tim in vermont said...

AFP news agency@AFP
Contrary to Donald Trump's impulsive policies in the Middle East, Joe Biden is expected to shift back to a more conventional US stance and re-engage with Iran, redrawing regional geopolitics


Let loose the dogs of war!

I think that they are going to find public support for these kinds of activities somewhat lacking.

Qwinn said...

Incidentally, regarding my post at 11:40am, there was not a single Green Party or any other leftist party registration among the analyzed data.

As a Data Analyst by profession my entire life, I cannot evaluate how plausible the statement in my declaration would be to people who aren't proficient in math. To me, that statement is *clearly* completely implausible and clearly indicative of fraud.

I'll reproduce it here. Can people who suck at math evaluate it and tell me how plausible the indicated result was?

"Despite in-person voting being overwhelmingly for Donald Trump (over 64%), Joe Biden performed several percentage points higher in the category 'mail in ballots' that he did in the category 'registered Democrats', despite only 66% of mail in ballots having been requested by registered Democrats, based upon publicly available records obtained from Bucks County."

BrentonTalcott said...


https://jonathanturley.org/2020/11/08/pulling-a-rosie-ruiz-the-risky-business-of-calling-american-presidential-elections/#comments

"e perfect pitch and message for a divided nation"

Tripe from Turley

Speaking for a faction of ...what is the pe·jo·ra·tive?

..Tumpers....yes...let me trumpet to you.

Biden has atrocious intonation, his rhythm would make white people who clap on one and three seem hip, he forgets the verse but occasionally sings truth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRnhBmHYN0

If he were a composer there would not ONE note originates rom his feeble brain as with many hacks his pie is not self cooked.

And finally speaking for myself, I will never accept a CCP traitor as president ...

EVER...

Period

Halls of justice painted green, money talking
Power wolves beset your door, hear them stalking
Soon you'll please their appetite they devour
Hammer of justice crushes you, overpower
The ultimate in vanity
Exploiting their supremacy
I can't believe the things you say
I can't believe, I can't believe the price
You pay
Nothing can save you
Justice is lost, justice is raped, justice is gone
Pulling your strings, justice is done
Seeking no truth, winning is all
Find it so grim, so true, so real
Apathy their stepping stone, so unfeeling
Hidden deep animosity, so deceiving
Through your eyes their light burns, hoping to find
Inquisition sinking you with prying minds
The ultimate in vanity
Exploiting their supremacy
I can't believe the things you say
I can't believe, I can't believe the price
You pay
Nothing can save you
Justice is lost, justice is raped, justice is gone
Pulling your strings, justice is done
Seeking no truth, winning is all
Find it so grim, so true, so real
Lady justice has been raped, truth assassin
Rolls of red tape seal your lips, now you're done in
Their money tips her scales again, make your deal
Just what is truth?
I cannot tell, cannot feel
The ultimate in vanity
Exploiting their supremacy
I can't believe the things you say
I can't believe, I can't believe the price
We pay
Nothing can save us
Justice is lost, justice is raped, justice is gone
Pulling your strings, justice is done
Seeking no truth, winning is all
Find it so grim, so true, so real
Seeking no truth, winning is all
Find it so grim, so true, so real

Metallica.. And Justice For All

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fKAsvJrFes


tim in vermont said...

Imagine if there was this kind of evidence against Trump

https://twitter.com/ArthurSchwartz/status/1325253215391084544

tim in vermont said...

One of the reasons I think that liberals are able to ignore this is that they figure that all of the stuff against Trump was made up, so this must be too.

Jim at said...

People who spent the last four years screaming. "Resist!!!!!" have forfeited any and all opportunities to call for healing.

Go to hell.

tim in vermont said...

Speaking of war mongering assholes, the man who gave Hunter Biden a 90K per annum seat on the board of Amtrack speaks.

George W. Bush congratulated Joe Biden on his election victory Sunday—and delivered an unmistakable message to Donald Trump that he must now concede.

tim in vermont said...

You know what the Massachusetts legislature did when they realized that the Repubican governor would be able to pick the new Senator when Kennedy died? They changed the law and appointed the new Senator themselves.

Remember that Georgia.

Qwinn said...

"Dominion" voting software "glitched" to transfer 6000 votes from Biden to Trump - this was admitted to - and the same software was used in every swing state.

And that "glitch" was only caught because it produced an absurd result... the kind of absurd results we're seeing everywhere but those are okay as long as leftists keep changing "no evidence" and Facebook keeps censoring any discussion of the fraud.

This is how brazen lefties are, that they named their brazen vote stealing software "Dominion".

As a programmer of 40 years, I want to know what was the legitimate purpose to having a function in the software even *capable* of moving votes from one candidate to another.

There will be no answers to that either, I suspect.

steve uhr said...

Quinn --

"Provide a plausible legitimate justification for why PA Democrats are suing to overturn the court decision affirming that Republicans must be allowed to observe the count as established by long standing law. This shouldn't be so fucking hard, yet for some reason, you all seem to have nothing."

I would be glad to take you up on your offer if you care to provide a link to the appeal brief for my review. Your failure to do so implicitly concedes that in fact the dems had a plausible legitimate justification for their appeal.

steve uhr said...

Quinn --

"Despite in-person voting being overwhelmingly for Donald Trump (over 64%), Joe Biden performed several percentage points higher in the category 'mail in ballots' that he did in the category 'registered Democrats', despite only 66% of mail in ballots having been requested by registered Democrats, based upon publicly available records obtained from Bucks County."

Huh? Maybe if you could break this down into a few sentences it would a little bit of sense.

Qwinn said...

Steve, you can ignore the first part, up to the 64%, if that helps. The rest of it stands on its own as being utterly implausible.

tim in vermont said...

"Your failure to do so implicitly concedes that in fact the dems had a plausible legitimate justification for their appeal.”

Yeah, PA courts are all on the up and up.

Michael “Ozzie” Myers was born in 1943 in Philadelphia. When he was 19, he was arrested for burglary but later acquitted (“a misunderstanding,” he’d say). When he was 27, his illegally owned handgun was used by his cousin to kill a non-union construction worker in what one newspaper characterized as “a union quarrel.” His cousin was fine, winning office as an election judge while still in prison, assuming his new office after release, and pleading the Fifth to stealing ballots shortly after taking the job.

“Money talks and bullshit walks.” - Ozzie to the FBI as they were bribing him.

When Ozzie got out, he appears to have gone right back to work, and in July 2020 was charged with bribing a Philadelphia elections judge to stuff ballots for his candidates.

Three of those candidates, who have not been identified, now sit on the Philadelphia Court of Common Pleas. Judges on this court have already denied the Trump campaign’s ballot-watchers access, providing crucial unsupervised time to ward vote counters before a successful appeal at a higher court.


Oh, and let’s talk about the PA Supreme Court:

Ozzie, we’re told, wasn’t even caught as part of an election fraud investigation: He was simply on the trail to John “Johnny Doc” Dougherty, a powerful Philadelphia labor boss who leads the Local 98 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers and was indicted in February 2019. Johnny Doc’s younger brother, Judge Kevin Dougherty,” was elected to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court in 2015 with help from Local 98.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/06/american-hustle-party-insiders-tell-the-true-story-of-how-philadelphia-elections-work/

Just the way steve uhr likes it, where the law is an instrument of personal power. You know, like using the Logan Act against Trump during the transition. I wonder if uhr thinks it’s a Logan Act violation for Biden or his team to talk to foreign governments right now?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Of course not, the law is an instrument of personal power for Democrats and Biden is a Democrat, so he is protected from such an absurd legal position that is ony ever valid when used against a Republican!

tim in vermont said...

I like the part about how three judges who got their position by bribing election officials remain unnamed and in office and potentially are the ones ruling on these issues.

Government by the corrupt, for the corrupt, and there are always useful idiots to justify it.

George W Bush is calling on Trump to concede, Cheney is advising Biden, and the AFP says that the US is going back into the business of deciding borders in the middle east.

We will need to, once Biden shuts down our energy independence, we will have to fight for that oil again if it gets cut off. Who benefits most from a Biden Administration? Putin and the Saudis.

Qwinn said...

"I would be glad to take you up on your offer if you care to provide a link to the appeal brief for my review. Your failure to do so implicitly concedes that in fact the dems had a plausible legitimate justification for their appeal. "

Oh bullshit. I don't have a link to the appeal. But it's irrelevant. I'm not asking for a *legal* justification. I'm asking for an ethical one. What ethical, legitimate reason could there possibly be to argue that Republicans should not be allowed to witness the vote count?

If you require reading the appeal because you, yourself, can't come up with *any* plausible ethical reason, then you're not worth engaging with, since you obviously can't think for yourself.

Sprezzatura said...

“all of the stuff against Trump was made up”

Now Jesus isn’t alone.

Cult of personality.

Sprezzatura said...

“...once Biden shuts down our energy independence, we will have to fight for that oil again if it gets cut off.”

So smart!

Sprezzatura said...

Did folks know that bars are open in Australia?

https://twitter.com/davemeddows/status/1325232517142642688

Michael K said...

Your failure to do so implicitly concedes that in fact the dems had a plausible legitimate justification for their appeal.

Hilarious. The Democrats sue to keep Republicans from watching ballot counting, which is the law.

"Your honor, my client was out of town the day of the murder. And besides, the sonofabitch came at him with a knife !" Steve's law practice.

Sprezzatura said...

BTW, a coup that results in a usurper taking control of the country seems like a big problem.

Is that what 2A is for? Seems like that logical connection is not a stretch. Expanding from a hypothetical in the ‘16 election:

“Repeating his contention that Mrs. Clinton wanted to abolish the right to bear arms, Mr. Trump warned at a rally here that it would be “a horrible day” if Mrs. Clinton were elected and got to appoint a tiebreaking Supreme Court justice.

“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. Trump said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.””

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html

Howard said...

Sadly, you people are intimidated by squishy soy boy Libtards. Time to sack up and join Achilles's militia.

Sprezzatura said...

Doc Mike,

The fuss is over distancing. Which is for COVID and also for making sure non-counter folks can’t possibly handle ballots.

Welcome to the twenty-first century: put down your binoculars and grab high resolution cameras. Position them and stream the feed. Not only can you see, you can record. And everything is done by machine except for taking the ballot out of the inner and outer envelops (which are both opened by machine). So all you need to watch for is someone opening a ballot and taking a pen to fill in for POTUS (or other position), or someone opening a ballot and tossing it in their pants (Berger style) or somewhere else if they don’t like the way it was voted. None of this observation requires being super close.


mandrewa said...
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mandrewa said...

AOC reveals ‘authoritarian fascist instincts’ after calls for a list of Trump ‘sycophants’

And let's be honest, it is not just AOC that thinks this way. It is something like 20 to 30% of the population that thinks this way. And then there is another huge segment of the population that although don't agree with these ideas, they will not lift a finger for the people who are being persecuted by the AOC types.

And let's be honest, this is not new. Look at our universities! Look at the University of Wisconsin. It didn't just happen that there are almost no publicly acknowledged right-wing people teaching at the University of Wisconsin. It was exactly AOC's kind of thinking that produced this situation, where non-left wing viewpoints have been purged from the universities.

The left tells itself, like it always does, some silly, stupid fantasy that they are the bright and intelligent and knowledgeable people, and that it is perfectly reasonable that only they should be represented at our universities and half the population should be left out. That is nonsense. There are, I believe, real and fundamental differences between people who are attracted to the left and the right, but the difference is not intelligence.

tim in vermont said...

Welcome to the twenty-first century: put down your binoculars and grab high resolution cameras

Yep, this whole problem goes away, and trust in our elections goes up. Right now this stinks though, because the Republicans had to go to court to get within 150 feet, a Republican observer got booted from Detroit for touching his mask once. The canvassers broke out in cheers.

There is no reason we can’t have better elections except that the system we have is the one that elected the politicians we have.

tim in vermont said...

Ever been to a bar in Australia? I have. They are the last people we want picking our president. Not to mention they live on a fucking island and have zero need for a wall. I am thinking that if they were connected to say, Bangladesh by land they might have a different POV.

Tina Trent said...

I feel lost.

After surviving a serial killer, I spent years realizing which party had let these people loose.

Then I slowly realized that the next party I joined let these people loose because they wanted to pander to other people.

Where do I go now? I think there's nobody left who thinks people like me should be allowed to live.

Where do I go now? I think there is no place.

O.K.

narciso said...

like the street parties that spontaneously emerged in dc philadelphia and new york, please lets stop the notion, this is about nothing except the great reset.

Kay said...

If it is true that the Donald has lost this election he should use his last days in office to bring all the troops back home finally.

narciso said...

I feel you tina, for my people who escaped another island hell hole, now they want to fit this serfs collar on us,

Drago said...

Kay: "If it is true that the Donald has lost this election he should use his last days in office to bring all the troops back home finally."

We long ago reached the point where the executive branch officials will slow walk any POTUS directives.

They want a protracted presence in Afghanistan (likely to expand), expanded presence in Iraq and Syria, along with a new Syrian war to displace Assad, along with a likely expanded military effort in Yemen which will have no end.

Expect the US military to reverse its focus on China on Biden's orders and revert to the continuing and never ending muddle of counter-insurgency operations in the Middle East.

China will be given free rein throughout Asia and I also suspect Hunter is in line for some very nice bonus cash infusions into his ChiCom funded "investment" firm.

mandrewa said...

Benford's Law -- How mathematics can detect fraud!

The video was produced nine years ago. And it is hard to follow. But this is real math. This is a real probability distribution that a certain class of numbers, like voting, obeys. Vote counts will follow this if the vote counting was legitimate. And most people have no clue that this is the case! So if someone is making up numbers, and they don't know this, they will invent numbers (vote counts) that disobey Benford's Law.

Now unfortunately Benford's Law can not tell you which particular numbers are fake, but they can tell that a set of numbers is fake -- such as successive votes counts from a particular polling station in Wisconsin.

It can also suggest which communities were probably doing an honest vote count. It's not a hundred percent for sure, because there are still ways to commit vote fraud and at the same time obey Benford's Law. But if the successive vote counts in a particular community do not obey Benford's Law, then that means with very high odds that there was vote fraud in that community and probably it was committed at the poll station itself.

Joe Smith said...

"If it is true that the Donald has lost this election he should use his last days in office to bring all the troops back home finally."

Great idea...he should recall all but a skeleton crew from Germany and South Korea.

Let warmonger Joe ship them back.

Michael K said...

Blogger anti-de Sitter space said...
Doc Mike,

The fuss is over distancing. Which is for COVID and also for making sure non-counter folks can’t possibly handle ballots.


I usually scroll by your comments but this is so stupid it caused me to stop. Ballot counters ordering Republican poll watchers to leave the area and putting sheets of paper to hide what is being done is fraud, just fraud. Go bother some place else. We are already full up with lefty idiots.

Rusty said...

I see the usual suspect morons are here to try and justify their vote fraud.
Howard. Shouldn't you be dress shopping.

Jupiter said...

"Despite in-person voting being overwhelmingly for Donald Trump (over 64%), Joe Biden performed several percentage points higher in the category 'mail in ballots' that he did in the category 'registered Democrats', despite only 66% of mail in ballots having been requested by registered Democrats, based upon publicly available records obtained from Bucks County."

Sorry, Qwinn, this is not at all clear. If you have the numbers, include them all. Are you trying to say that registered Democrats were more likely to vote for Biden if they mailed their ballots than if they voted in person? Even if you can prove that, I can think of explanations besides fraud.

Hell, I'm a registered Democrat. Oregon has had vote-by mail for years, and I realized that when the Democrat at the courthouse looks at your "secrecy envelope", he's comparing your signature to the one on your voter registration. Which is right next to your party affiliation. I suspect that Democrat signatures have a higher match rate than Republican.

And BTW, only one Republican has won a statewide office since we got vote-by-mail, and he was running against that Left Fascist Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian, who got his jollies torturing Christians for not baking lesbian wedding cakes. Even the Democrat vote-counters couldn't save his worthless ass.

Sara D said...

"Mathematical impossibilities may be what trips up Democrat plans"
By Andrea Widburg

This is a very interesting article on fraud. How they did it.(alleged)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/mathematical_impossibilities_may_be_what_trips_up_democrat_plans.html

Sprezzatura said...

Doc Mike, this is more my place than yours.

I was here way before you, bro.

Besides, how many times have you huffed and puffed about how these threads are full of comments that you don’t like? But you keep coming back and reading. Bluffing so much makes you look weak. IMHO.

Why can’t you see that it is weak to jabber about being above commenters, but then you go ahead and respond to them? Is logic tricky for you?

Jupiter said...

"Where do I go now? I think there's nobody left who thinks people like me should be allowed to live."

Tina, I can agree that the situation is uncongenial, but I don't follow why you are taking it personally. You'll have plenty of company on the train. The're going to need to give us 9-digit tattoos. Or are you responding to something other than the attempt to steal the presidential election?

Narr said...

Jupiter comes out as a registered Democrat!

Oh Jupiter . . . we're so disap-- surprised, so surprised!

After all this time, and so well-hidden.

Narr
Here for ya, buddy!

Qwinn said...

Jupiter, sorry. I'll try to clarify. In in-person voting, there were 230 Democrat voters, and Biden got only 175 votes. The absolute maximum support Biden got from in person registered Democrats was 76%, and that requires the assumption that not a single Republican or non-affiliated voter voted for Biden. If any did, Biden's support from registered Democrats was even lower.

Biden got over 78% of the vote from mail in ballots, despite the fact that only 66% of mail in ballots were from registered Democrats. He got over 78% despite the fact that that pool of voters included a lot of Republicans and NF voters.

So Biden did substantially better among the category "mail in ballots" than the category "registered Democrats", despite only 66% of mail in ballots being from Democrats.

Is that even remotely plausible? That he would do better in a pool of voters that was only 66% Democrat than in a pool that was 100% Democrat?

I'm Not Sure said...

"Is that even remotely plausible? That he would do better in a pool of voters that was only 66% Democrat than in a pool that was 100% Democrat?"

You're overthinking this. You're talking about the "Party of Science" here- you know... the people who think they can manage the climate of the planet earth by using windmills and solar panels. Do you think they're interested in doing any math?

Jupiter said...

"Is that even remotely plausible? That he would do better in a pool of voters that was only 66% Democrat than in a pool that was 100% Democrat?"

To make the comparison, one needs to know
a) the fraction of mail-in that were Democrat - 66%
b) the fraction of mail-in that voted Biden - "over 78%"
c) The fraction of in-person that were Democrat - 230/????
d) the fraction of in-person that voted Biden - 175/????

In any case, it certainly sounds fishy, but beyond plausibility? Multiply by 10,000, yes. But small groups have strange statistics, and mail-in voters are different than walk-in voters. I'm not saying it wasn't fraud, but it isn't bulletproof evidence of fraud.

Jupiter said...

"Jupiter comes out as a registered Democrat!"

Being a registered Republican in Western Oregon means being effectively disenfranchised. As a Democrat, I get to vote in their primary (Bernie). I also have the pleasure of having my vote harvested by the local Democrat machine. And as I mentioned, I believe it is more likely to be counted.

DavidUW said...

Re: joining a militia.

Would love to see some Argentina-style tax strikes.

i.e. open the damn schools or no more property taxes. What's the county sheriff going to do, evict everyone?

ditto for landlords. I can't evict my tenants? fuck you, I'm not paying property taxes.

See what happens.

Sherriff you're going to come up the hills to where I live? Just like Argentina, there are exactly 3 trees I need to cut and no one comes in or out of my hilltop area. There's one of you, 300 of us...


JC said...

I am awed by the picture here.
What a beautiful shot!
Thank you!