Other examples given in the article: "The Joker. Lord Voldemort. All manner of scarred Bond villains and superhero antagonists. Dr. Poison. Freddy Krueger. The Phantom of the Opera. Shakespeare’s hunchbacked, butcherous Richard the Third."
Yes, but — speaking of hunchbacks — the greatest disabled literary and movie character is a hero, "The Hunchback of Notre Dame":
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So people with visible disabilities will not be hired by the Hollywood Scum? Those with non-visual disabilities will continue to go on social media and tell us how rotten we are and how we must live our lives.
It's A Movie!
Speaking of which, I watched "Romancing the Stone" last night. Great movie. One of the best dance scenes of all time. Right up there with "Dirty Dancing" and "La La Land" in my book. My deplorable book.
if you take politics and journalism as reality show >>>
the evil villains are the beautiful people! some with crisp creased pants
so this cavil could be directed to journalists and academics also.
I don't care.
Oh fer chris-sakes. We have well and truly gone down the rabbit hole. Through the looking glass.
Insanity rules.
The list of societal grievances increases exponentially as I age. Just when you think you’ve resolved one, three more emerge.
Harold Russell may beg to differ ...
This is my best-remembered comic scene:
This story, “The New Crimes of Two-Face” (Batman #68, 1951–1952), is also of historical interest, for when it was reprinted in Batman Annual #3 (1962), the disfiguring sequence was redrawn to show a klieg light exploding in Sloane's face, rather than portraying the “imitable behavior” of throwing acid, which the Comics Code, adopted in 1954, prohibited.
Harold Russell may beg to differ ...
If I could like this twice, I would. Thanks to you, and thanks again to Harold Russell.
Anne Hathaway should apologise, and she should resign from the role. Only a person with disfigured hands should play a character with disfigured hands. She doesn't know their pain!
Rocky Dennis ...
Joseph (John) Merrick ...
Wasn't the Hunchback the good guy?
Does anyone go to movies anymore ?
Deadpool ...
Edward Scissorhands ...
Sloth from The Goonies ...
Oh my God. Another subset of victims. How lucky we are to have been taught this. Limb different people. I, too, have a limb difference. I call it "Man-O-War", but my wife just shrugs at it. Anyway, I digress.
I cannot believe Anne Hathaway felt the need to apologize for taking a part in a movie without consulting her hands.
What a bonehead society we've become. Idiocracy.
Five woke NYT articles in a row today! AA's on a roll!
Evil people listen to classical music in their lairs, in movies.
"Facial pictures of black and white delinquents were significantly less attractive than pictures of corresponding groups of high school students, as judged by same-race raters. Significant differences were found among the white delinquents, but not among the black, for Quay's four behavioral dimensions of delinquency. Black delinquents were significantly darker in skin color than the black high school students, and lightness of skin color was positively correlated with physical attractiveness ratings made by both black and white raters, indicating that neither race has yet assimilated the saying “black is beautiful.” This and other evidence suggest that facial attractiveness may be causal in delinquency."
Movie theaters are closing. TV and film shows can't be filmed because that requires too many people be together and all are non-essential. Live productions won't be a thing until after 2021. But hey, lets make sure Anne Hathaway apologizes for being an actress and portraying anything other than herself. And that's fine with me, because I'm sure Anne Hathaway gave a good deal of money to the Biden campaign. I'm going back to media collection of movies made prior to this decade, which includes the Mel Brooks Collection on Blu-ray (I purchased it for $23 in 2013. Now it is like buying ammo, hard to find and expensive).
I wonder what the PC crowd makes of Tod Browning's 1932 film "Freaks."
All movie villains should be heterosexual white men. There! All better?
Limbless or partially so is a challenge, and I applaud these folks (which gets me thinking, these guys know the answer to a zen koan the rest of us can only guess at). Now let's see a video in support of the limbic-less.
quasi modo geniti infantes has taken on a new meaning in our crybaby cancel culture.
I forget who pointed out in game of throneshad a pleasing appearance same in the witcher.
On another note, Charles Laughton was quite brilliant.
I only watch movies where the evil people are genetically perfect and healthy blonde hair and blue-eyed Nazis.
This is generally what happens when you empower the weaker people, with worse ideas, in a civilization. It usually indicates a breakdown in legitmate authority and deeper structures.
Oh, there will be authority...
Everybody’s got their butt on their shoulders about something.
cf. Bradbury, Ray. Fahrenheit 451.
Yeah, there was nothing physically wrong with the Red Witch. Also Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct was pretty well formed. I bet it's more common to use physical deformity as a red herring device, either to distract from the real witch or to use it as something the character's goodness overcomes.
Surprising everyone except activists with an axe to grind and a grift to maintain, most adults seem to be able to differentiate between "fictional villains" and "real people" when it comes to disabilities.
All movie villains should be heterosexual white men. There! All better?
Hey, how come all the juicy roles go to straight white men??!!
"Freaks" was on TCM last week.
The host in his introduction mentioned to viewers that some of the movie's actors were actual carnival freaks. He gave a modest warning about this.
Ordinarily, I would find this sort of PC stuff offensive, but some of the performers are so visually repugnant that some might not want to see the movie or keep children away.
Of course, the moral of the movie is way ahead of its time--that 'freaks' are just as normal as the rest of us and that sometimes people who look normal have freakishly evil hearts.
Rocky Balboa wasn't disfigured going in. At the end of the movie, it was a different story. The statue must come down.
Looo-tenant Dan! Ice creeeeeam!
What about kung fu movies where the hero defeats the villain with the dreaded five finger death punch?
How is that okay?
I guess even the Nazis feed into this form of prejudice because of intentional disfigurement obtained by dueling scars. Truly there are no safe spaces
Pontifications : is this beauty or disfigure?
Why is Anne Hathaway apologizing? She's not the director, production designer, effects designer, etc. I am assuming this was done with CGI, so it happened after she was done with the film and moving on to other projects.
Not trying to come to her rescue, but she's really not responsible for this, unless she had some sort of approval over the character design. I guess this is somewhat of a justification for celebrities being assholes; they're likely the ones who'll be hung out to dry if somebody gets offended by a film.
The interesting thing is that, IIRC, Dahl described the witches as having claws instead of nails, which would have been much easier to do and would have offended no one. Guess this was a case of Hollywood out clevering themselves.
The hands are supposed to be a "tell" for witches in the plot--a warning for mortals. There are others.
Now let's discuss the race swapping in the casting of this remake.
And don't et me started on the stereotypes of upper class English accents.
Pontifications
Anne Hathaway, like many movie stars, is freakishly good looking. Some forms of freakishness are well rewarded....Yeah, okay. People with physical handicaps are fully human and, in most cases, are smarter, nicer, and worthier than those good looking movie stars.
"Evil people listen to classical music in their lairs, in movies."
While the good guys read the NYT.
So, the next time we need a sacrifice to placate the gods, we'll toss a hunchback into the volcano instead of Anne Hathaway. Sounds fair to me. Anne's just too pretty to make that kind of sacrifice.
You must grovel and kneel.
Fuck. These. People.
And don't et me started on the stereotypes of upper class English accents.
Do tell, old boy...
1. Beautiful monsters are rare but have existed throughout history.
2. Pretty people have always received favorable treatment.
3. Literary fiction cannot abide wokeness and produce lasting meaningful art, and agitprop sucks so people will find even more non-traditional sources for entertainment as what was once normal entertainment becomes transgressive alternative secret pleasure, such as a movie with two attractive engaging characters.
Hathaway is a good actress but she suffers from a permanent disability far wore than a physical disfigurement: white privilege. From that disability, there is no escape.
Using orange hair to signify who the bad person is will be permitted.
For as long as there have been stages and screens, masculinity has been used as visual shorthand for evildoing...
Anne Hathaway laments how beautiful people get special treatment, in a fawning article with professional photography.
Anne can do what she wants, but I'll never apologize for being beautiful and talented!
Never.
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Inside and out
The notion that appearance doesn't matter is one of the vicious lies of the modern era. Of course appearance matters. Appearance often tells you a lot about the hidden aspects of a person: their health, their mental state, what they value, perhaps even personal aspects of their lives. We're the result of millions of years of evolution where our brains became trained to look for patterns, and often a disfigurement or unaesthetic appearance was a sign of legitimate danger such as disease, membership in another tribe, mental illness which could cause risk to the rest of the group, etc.
So is the problem that Anne Hathaway doesn't have enough fingers in the movie or has too many fingers in real life?
I agree...please bring back Arab terrorists.
Those were the days.
This article includes Lord Voldemort to advance its thesis? Srsly? Lord Voldemort deliberately made himself monstrous in appearance by slicing and dicing his own soul with a long series of murders. When he enters Hogwarts, as Tom Riddle, he's just an average little boy, rather handsomer than most.
I should add that there are people with what might actually be called "disabilities" in Rowling's universe. Hagrid and Prof. Lupin and Prof. Flitwick and the alcoholic and nearly-blind Prof. Trelawney come to mind. They're all good. (OK, Fenrir Greyback, not at all good, but otherwise . . .)
Richard III is rather a stretch, too, b/c the man actually was "hunchbacked" in some way (bad scoliosis? Polio?) and did do some monstrous things. Not, I hasten to add, necessarily the ones Shakespeare damns him with. But Shakespeare was writing not terribly far off the events. I remain amazed that he tried to tackle Henry VIII at all. Royal politics in England were fantastically nasty, and about to get worse.
Grant: I wonder what the PC crowd makes of Tod Browning's 1932 film "Freaks."
To be fair, "Freaks" was the "shadow-banned" of its day. Not, as I recall, from an MPA edict, but voluntarily: most theater operators simply wouldn't screen it.
Is Anne Hathaway related to Mr. Drysdale's secretary?
Miss Jane and Anne both have 5 fingers on each hand. That kind of thing tends to run in families. Plus, same last name. Maybe it's just a bizarre coincidence.
John Holmes' disfigurement really typecasted him in the roles he played.
I am Laslo.
Miss Jane suffered from what a polite southern belle would call an "unfortunate haircut."
There is something to be said about this. If all you ever see out of a certain group is evil, then it becomes quite easy to associate the group with evil. However, simply deciding that the group will never be shown as evil is not a solution, just a bias in the other direction. You want the group depicted like any other group, capable of being good, evil, or indifferent.
The problem with disabilities is there is often a logical reason why evil and disability are linked. Getting mangled in an accident or a war or whatever can drive a person insane or make the person extremely angry and resentful. It's quite the motivation for doing bad things. In addition, evil characters will often intentionally or unintentionally mangle themselves to get a desired result, especially magic users and mad scientists. For that matter, being naturally disabled and desperately wanting to fix it could be the motivation for delving into the black arts or making a deal with the Devil.
Yeah, welcome to Hollywood, where only the extraordinarily attractive get real parts. That fact isn't going anywhere. You don't need to be disabled to be ineligible, just normal.
I hope you'll all forgive me if I take a second to laugh at something. So, here ya go: "limb differences"... LOL.
That is not directed at the unfortunate folks who have deformed or maimed arms and legs. Of course not. It's for these risible terms, and especially for the idiots who concoct them.
They have all the creativity of the people in the advertising firms who make up those silly names for all the new drugs that plague the TV commercials these days. Except those guys are doing it for a paycheck. The PC clowns do it because they are empty, unhappy people with not enough of substance to worry about.
People have crippled extremities. People have maimed limbs. People have various deformities - my brother for instance. Those variances have specific names and general descriptors. If the others are like my bro they don't even think about them. Certainly nowhere near as much as the self-appointed guardians of their feelings who insist on protecting them from the grievous harm caused by...words.
The movie should be banned and all copies destroyed.
Hathaway should be executed for her crimes.
This is fun!
"John Holmes' disfigurement really typecasted him in the roles he played."
You know those porn actresses...give 'em an inch and they'll take twelve.
Isn't she the one who loves it in the wrong place?
I immediately thought of "I Claudius". I love anti-heroes.
Oh, and intercourse hollywood and it's absurdly pathetic groveling.
The complaint is never the issue. The apology is.
"They have all the creativity of the people in the advertising firms who make up those silly names for all the new drugs that plague the TV commercials these days."
I hate to tell you, but it's not the ad people creating the names. There's an overly-regulated process for pharmaceutical drug naming.
How about "The Best Years of Our Lives"? (Highly sympathetic WW II vet played by a guy without hands.) Rigoletto?
Michelle Dulak Thomson said...Richard III is rather a stretch, too, b/c the man actually was "hunchbacked" in some way (bad scoliosis? Polio?) and did do some monstrous things. Not, I hasten to add, necessarily the ones Shakespeare damns him with.
Shakespeare was a propagandist in the pay of the Tudors.
Read Josephine Tey's The Daughter of Time. She inspired British historians to look more closely into the claims that Richard III was some sort of monster. He was not.
"For as long as there have been stages and screens, disability and disfigurement have been used as visual shorthand for evildoing..."
Why do you think the media is constantly talking about Trump's appearance?
His hair, his weight, his skin.
Of course, nothing in this article is meant to shame these people.
They just want future Disney villains to be good-looking white people.
Known Unknown said...
"They have all the creativity of the people in the advertising firms who make up those silly names for all the new drugs that plague the TV commercials these days."
I hate to tell you, but it's not the ad people creating the names. There's an overly-regulated process for pharmaceutical drug naming.
You're talking about generic names, where the naming process is arduous and must contend with heavy oversight. I was referring to the brand names you hear in the ads. And those are created by the drug firms' marketing guys, with help from ad firms that specialize in creative product naming. The FDA must approve of course and they have guidelines - which are not near as demanding as with the generic naming.
"Richard III is rather a stretch, too, b/c the man actually was 'hunchbacked’ “ Truth be told. Next they will ban performances of Oedipus Rex, because of the club foot.
Intellectual freedom is at real risk in the US. Remember when children’s cartoons were about making kids laugh? Watch one now, they are all about lessons in leftism.
Does being bitten by a beast count? Ahab. Captain Hook.
I call bullshit Tim. The cartoons of the past taught us kids whitewashed history while making us laugh. It's harder to spot the propaganda when you're young and inside the bubble. I recall being inspired to enlist in the Cold War because of the Rocky and Bullwinkle show in their depiction of Boris and Natasha. Over the humanity. It was the Rand corporation from Santa Monica exerting their influence on Hollywood by programming the baby boomer children to be instruments of the military industrial complex.
Daniel ellsberg revealed the programming of American children in his not so famous release called the Hanna-Barbera papers
I was thinking more Tom and Jerry and Bugs Bunny, but Rocky and Bullwinkle? Spy vs Spy? It was all an insidious plot! Of course at that time the Russians were exporting their revolution on the turrets of tanks.
The repetitious script of that hackneyed video format often degenerated into condescending fin-splaining, which was no service to the people in it or represented by it.
"Shakespeare was a propagandist in the pay of the Tudors. “
Oh God, here we go. I know that there was some consternation when it turned out that Richard III actually was a hunchback, after years of his defenders claiming it was a vicious Tudor calumny. Shakespeare worked from sources of the day, like Holinshed's Chronicles, and was more interested in creating art than creating propaganda. If you are looking for some villain, maybe you should go after Holinshed.
Sideways curvature of his spine was evident as the skeleton was excavated. It has been attributed to adolescent-onset scoliosis. Although it was probably visible in making his right shoulder higher than the left and reducing his apparent height,
But it didn’t make him a “hunchback” you see... Jeezem Crow.
The late historian John Lukacs (who had some experience of oppression by fanatics) wrote something to the effect that he had never met a radical Red who wasn't in some way disfigured or crippled-- the radicalism was a reaction to the personal misfortune or handicap (can we say that anymore?)
I would extend that to almost all radicals or fanatics I've encountered. There's something clearly wrong with their minds, and often with their bodies.
If Putin wasn't short, he wouldn't make such a convenient villain for those stuck in the past.
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Meaning our once-and-future Uniparty freakshow.
The Soviet tanks were useless against the American juggernaut
But in the end, we could not keep up with the expense involved in the arms race, the space race, and the peace race. And at the same time, our people grumbled for more nylons and washing machines.
they're STILL going to have roles for those freaky people, though; right?
you know the ones i mean; the girls with:
Large Breasts
Small noses
Slim Waists
Big(ish) butts
Glossy hair
Shiny Teeth
???
You know, those freaks of nature that for some disgusting reason; Keep Getting Casted
Heck! I've even heard;
that some Regular people will go to special doctors, to get surgery to look this freakish way
all the NYT articles to comment on.
what if would give us a take of a days worth of NY Post, or Washington Times articles?
David Lynch's "The Elephant Man" is another movie with the disfigured man as the sympathetic hero.
"Beauty and the Beast" is all about seeing inner beauty and worth despite the outer horror.
"Phantom of the Opera" has another disfigured hero.
How hard is this to provide counters to a silly article?
"You're talking about generic names, where the naming process is arduous and must contend with heavy oversight. I was referring to the brand names you hear in the ads. And those are created by the drug firms' marketing guys, with help from ad firms that specialize in creative product naming. The FDA must approve of course and they have guidelines - which are not near as demanding as with the generic naming."
Yes. But still regulated. I've never named a pharmaceutical product and I worked in healthcare advertising for 20 years. All of our clients did that work in-house.
Well, was once asked to provide ideas for a Lasik procedure name for Alcon.
Cyrano de Bergerac ...
Ash in Evil Dead 2 / Army of Darkness ...
Barbarossa (sometimes a hero) in Pirates of the Caribbean ...
Professor X (disabled) ...
The Winter Soldier (okay, a bad guy but was really a good guy who was programmed to be a bad guy) ...
Snake Plissken ...
Rooster Cogburn ...
I recall being inspired to enlist in the Cold War because of the Rocky and Bullwinkle show in their depiction of Boris and Natasha.
That explains a lot. Boris and Natasha were making fun of the cold war, not promoting it. Seriously, who enlisted in order to fight Boris and Natasha?
tim in vermont said...
"Shakespeare was a propagandist in the pay of the Tudors. “
Oh God, here we go. I know that there was some consternation when it turned out that Richard III actually was a hunchback, after years of his defenders claiming it was a vicious Tudor calumny.
You seem to be missing the point. Shakespeare made Richard III into a monster who murdered his nephews (among other things) when it was Henry VII who did it. The Tudors were the Clintons of their time.
"The Tudors were the Clintons of their time."
Like the Clintons, have never been fond of Tudors.
Prefer sedans.
I'll drive my Berlin right through your Sedan!
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Fordor Hatchback
It's been said that where Shakespeare is not sublime, he is ridiculous. In the play Titus Andronicus, two of the enemies of Titus set upon his daughter. They rape her, then cut off her hands and rip out her tongue so the poor girl will not be able to write or say who did the crime. One of the friends of Titus happens upon the wounded girl. In a not entirely moving moment, he takes her in his arms and exclaims how sad it is that she is now a disgrace to the family and will no longer be able to play the lyre and sing sweet tunes to her father. Modern audiences who have access to stereos can no longer appreciate the tragedy of not having a daughter around to play the lyre. The scene is no longer performed because the brutish audiences of today laugh at this speech. Times change.
Diversity is a clear and progressive problem.
The Streisand effect on Tudors. By bruiting Richard's crimes, Shakespeare has made him a memorable figure. If Shakespeare had written something nasty about Nero instead of Richard, Richard would have long since joined Ethelred The Unready in the memory hole.
Curious that Raymond Burr was a vicious heavy in film noirs, but a wheel-chaired hero in Perry Mason.
Bad guys like classical music Spectre vivaldi
Where's Jon Lovitz when you need someone to shout out, "ACTING!"
"Shakespeare made Richard III into a monster who murdered his nephews”
Whatever, it’s an amazing play. Consider the possibility that Shakespeare was taking a risk including the crimes of Henry VII in one of his plays, and that he was not writing for posterity, he was writing plays that he had no reason to expect would last much past his lifetime, and that his audience knew damn well which king of England killed his nephews.
How is Hollywood proposing to continue providing the mutant characters in X-Men?
Very few actors around have those mutant characteristics.
Heck, very few mutants are superhumans.
And hey, nobody has mentioned Quade's friendly Martian mutant leader Kuato in Total Recall.
The triple breasted woman will also be hard to find, without CGI or prostheses.
I, for one, find the activist agitprop over fingers to be a cover for the real issue in the movie about witches - female baldness, hidden by wigs.
Like Zorg says, "Be proud about who you are!"
"Curious that Raymond Burr was a vicious heavy in film noirs, but a wheel-chaired hero in Perry Mason."
That would be 'Ironside,' but close.
He did make a good 'heavy.' Maybe because he was a large man with the widest shoulders on earth : )
Check out 'Pitfall.'
Joe: duh, thx
Remember "The Best Years of Our Lives" and Harold Russell?
Two Oscars for the same role.
The Academy used to honor people for their acting in movie roles.
Now Hollywood wants... what exactly?
(1) There was no real reason to make this movie in the first place. The 1990 film adaptation starring Anjelica Huston is a fantastic film.
(2) To the list of films that celebrate the humanity of disfigured people, I would add the Cher movie Mask about Rocky Dennis.
It's a Christian religious/moral principle to care for those less fortunate, and to offer them an opportunity to strive through self-realization, first, and charity, second. Diversity (i.e. color judgment) is not a principle of either Christianity or America. #BabyLivesMatter
Re: films celebrating disfigured people, has there ever been a good heroic biopic of Nelson? I recall a few years ago, some modern sculptor had his or her sculpture of a disabled woman put up temporarily in Trafalgar Square and the press were celebrating how at long last there was representation of disabled people, without noting the irony that Nelson is depicted as visibly one-armed at the top of his column, and was blind in one eye to boot.
There's other disabled war heroes too, e.g. Uxbridge, although most have biographies that are not quite so entertaining. I remember Uxbridge only because of his exchange with the Duke of Wellington just after his leg got shot off: "By God, sir, I've lost my leg!" "By God, sir, so you have!" Or rather, I remembered the exchange. Had to look up Uxbridge's name because I had forgotten it.
The Toxic Avenger & Darkman were both disfigured heroes.
"We live in an age where illness and deformity are commonplace, and yet, Ploppy, you are, without a doubt, the most repulsive individual I have ever met. I would shake your hand, but I fear it would come off."
-Sir Edmund Blackadder
Daniel Day Lewis in My Left Foot. I haven't seen it in years, but I still remember how vivid and sympathetic was his portrayal. I bet Lewis could portray Titus's doomed daughter and bring gravitas to the role.....I've read that the most common prejudice that the human race has is that we overestimate the goodness of the good looking. I suppose as a corollary to this we underestimate the worthy qualities of the ugly and the maimed. Something to do with Darwin I suppose. It's not right but that's the way it is.
Daniel Day Lewis as Christie Brown in "My Left Foot".
Is it a crime to tell disfigured people to STFU?
I assume this will put a hunch in tim in vermont's back:
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
What sort of ugly would Karen B have on screen to show his putrid soul?
I recall being inspired to enlist in the Cold War because of the Rocky and Bullwinkle show in their depiction of Boris and Natasha.
i can never remember, how old does Howard pretend to be?
kinda have to be older than me; to be inspired to enlist in the Cold War because of Boris
and if you were older than me, your inspiration to enlist (particularly as a weekend warrior)
would be because of Ho Chi Minn, not Boris and Natasha
Of course, when you live a lie; it's hard to keep your facts straight
Scary is how you act, not look
The propensity for people on the left to try to censor art and free speech is scary indeed.
William,
The point about Titus Andronicus's daughter was that the rapists' plan didn't work anyway: Titus gave her a long stick and some dusty ground, and, holding the end of the stick in her mouth and guiding it with her stumps, she wrote their names in the dirt.
That is not, of course, the most gruesome thing in the play, either; that would be when Titus catches the rapists, slits their throats, bakes their heads inside a sort of pastry shell, and serves it to their mother. It's always sort of excused away as an atypical early work, and I daresay it is (both!), but my impression is that this sort of thing was very common, and very popular, in Elizabethan England.
At least I don't pretend to be a fisherman, gilbar.
and now, get ready for another evil 'disfigured' villainess-- Ivanka.
...she allegedly farted in high skool.
#Fartgate....[and #Unity! and #Healing!!]
Francisco D,
I've read The Daughter of Time. It's excellent (though she sure does hate Thomas More). It's why I mentioned polio as a likely cause of "crookback"'s condition. But I'd forgotten about the body recently dug up (under a service station, wasn't it?) and thought to be Richard's, where the cause is pretty clearly bad scoliosis. Thanks, tim in vermont.
I remember being tested for scoliosis in elementary school, along with everyone else; about a third of us were found to have it, including me. Naturally, none of us were "disabled" in any visible sense at all.
I don't see any point, tim, in blaming Holinshed (or More, who I seem to recall got his info mostly from Holinshed). Yes, "Tudor propagandists," but as I said earlier, you'd be a dangerously reckless fool not to be one, wouldn't you? English politics pre-Charles II was really very apt to make you dead. Not something to muck about with.
oh, speaking of disfigured--
...wtf is that diseased 'Charlie Brown' FrankenPine doing in Rockefeller Center?
State-provided violence was a big thing in early modern Europe, and England was no exception.
Mass hangings and other punishments were public events, meant to draw crowds. A wise man (it was usually men) on the way to the noose would tip urchins from the crowd to grab hold of his legs and hang on until he stopped kicking-- it was quicker that way.
I know TA was a Roman, and boy howdy, were they brutal!
The first requirement for a historian is a strong stomach.
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That's what I told all my classes on the first day
Michelle Dulak Thomson said...Yes, "Tudor propagandists," but as I said earlier, you'd be a dangerously reckless fool not to be one, wouldn't you? English politics pre-Charles II was really very apt to make you dead. Not something to muck about with.
Yes. I agree.
We have the 15th Century version of "Russian Collusion". I wonder if it will take 500 years to correct the record.
SNL Confident Hunchback
Bad guys like classical music in films Lucy mozart
and il macchia, was the propagandist for the borgias, it was their example he was commending to the medicis,
Bad guys like classical music, Brax playing Chopin Raindrop Prelude in Moonraker, seems to have dropped off youtube. Still pic of Brax at piano
Jim Carey said he had penis reduction surgery because he found the looks of terror unnerving.
The Rocketeer (1991, a hoot) had an ugly henchnazi with a love of grand opera.
I can't find the actor's name.
If there's a character in a show, series, or movie who loves classical music and has a collection of miniature soldiers, watch out.
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Good looks optional
I have seen Titus Andronicus performed on the stage. I can assure you that with a talented cast, the play is quite moving, if a gory bloody bloodbath sort of moving. For total immersion, understand that Titus believes that everything he does is correct, honorable, and, most importantly, morally required, which makes it all the more comprehensible when he breaks down as his actions lead to one disaster after another. It also helps that the play has an excellent collection of delicious villains.
@Narr:
The Rocketeer (1991, a hoot) had an ugly henchnazi with a love of grand opera.
I loved that movie. The character you're thinking about was played by Tiny Ron, a former basketball player turned actor. He did a lot of TV work playing a giant.
Today's movies and TV shows are 100% PC and therefore 100% boring. There are rare exceptions like South Park and comedians who are allowed (for now, at least) to release independent material through the internet.
The old stuff is where it's at until it gets banned. Some things, like Cosby and Roseanne, already have.
Farmer, thanks. I found a photo of Tiny Ron that looked nothing like I recalled, and wasn't convinced he was the one.
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What is this "make-up" of which you speak?
same director joe johnston, did captain america, the first avenger, paul sorvino makes for a less than menacing gangster, timothy dalton played a thinly disguised errol flynn, complete with nazi sympathies,
Yoda was a hunchback, and he's a good guy, if you only look at the Original Trilogy.
Nightcrawler from the X-Men. The Hound from Game of Thrones.
Many of the characters from Avatar: The Last Airbender - Zuko had major facial scars, Toph was blind, Aang was a vegetarian.
Wasn't the whole point of "The Crying Game" the Big Reveal of the chick showing her deformity?
I am Laslo.
If appearance should not matter, what is all the fuss about supposed racism doing, other than emphasizing that appearance is all that matters? Well, appearance, and support of BLM, of course.
To Howard ,"The Hunchback of Notre Dame" was a documentary. Our characters are built not on our limitations but on overcoming those limitations.
Who will they give Oscars to if actors can't pretend to have conditions they don't have? It's not all going to be Meryl Streep pretending to be Margaret Thatcher from now on, is it?
"Yes, but — speaking of hunchbacks — the greatest disabled literary and movie character is a hero, "The Hunchback of Notre Dame"
Perhaps a heroic character, but doesn't the hero get the girl in the end, especially after the hero saves her life? Quasimodo did not get the girl, Esmerelda, in the end. In "Phantom of the Opera," the Phantom had a beautiful girl whom he was to marry. Then the theater fire, the facial disfigurement, the marriage was off, and the girl was repulsed by the once-beloved man of her dreams. "Beauty and the Beast" was about "inner beauty" but in the end, the Beast becomes the tall, strong, handsome man of outer beauty.
Having aged 66 years with a congenital physical deformity, I can personally attest to the harmful effects of literary disability tropes. Since childhood, people have assumed me to be mentally retarded, emotionally stunted, socially suspect, and just plain evil. Members of my family believed me to be a curse and punishment from God based upon ancient stories and fables reinforced by radio and film stories.
Neither I nor, many of my male birth defective friends have married or had long-term loving and sexual relationships (Denmark's health system provides prostitutes for defectives sans partners.) My friends and I have all asked why no relationship with even the easiest of women and the answers are always the same - you are a nice guy, you're like a brother, but I could never be with a person like you - the noun "man" is never used. My female counterparts have a different experience. As long as they have functional female accouterments and can cook, men don't care.
We have been denied jobs, advancement, and rewards for our defects caused by stale tales. We been distrusted, dismissed, and disheartened. I am sorry so many people here are more concerned because Anne Hathaway apologized rather than the impetus for the apology. I am sorry that so many just don't get it and probably never will. I, too, am angry with Hollywood leftism. But, sometimes, those bleeding hearts can tell us a little sumthin-sumthin about ourselves and the world we inhabit, though many of us inhabit a somewhat different world.
I am proud that I am part of the Post-WW2 generation that suffered the slings and arrows, were shunned, denied, belittled, abused, and shunted aside so that later generations of disabled could live good and truly productive lives. Though I have always had people stare and laugh at my deformed and skinny legs, I am a man in shorts who wears them unashamedly.
This isn't about Hollywood or Broadway or Disney or Mother Goose and her nursery rhymes. It's about real people who been marginalized, hidden away, and killed as lives not worth living because of ancient stereotypes that still hold sway today. In this arena, Hollywood only portrays what the culture already believes. My culture continues to believe my kind to be scary, suspicious, evil, incompetent, worth less and worthless, an invalid (verb) invalid (noun.) It's about behavior, the thinking creating the behavior, and ultimately the source of thinking. The source just happens to be the fables, fairy tales, literature born in a time long, long ago in places far, far away.
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