From "The Last of the SoHo Pioneers/An artist who bought a loft on West Broadway for $15,000 in 1972 sells it for $2.4 million and retires to her home borough of Queens" (NYT). The 18 photographs at the link are fascinating. The clutter is shocking or beautiful, depending on what sort of person you are. Go through the slide show and don't miss photos 12, 13, and 14, which are "virtually staged." That is, you "see" the space completely cleared out and painted white, but all the owner's belongings were still there, and would-be buyers who toured to the place had to wend their way through "pathways" that the agency had "crafted... so people could access the different areas."
Sampson — who is 75 — doesn't really like Rego Park, and she's thinking of coming back to SoHo, even though there's almost nothing left of what made it so great in the 1970s.
"Most of the things I like are gone,” Ms. Sampson said. Dean & DeLuca closed last year and many of the artisan shops that followed in the galleries’ wake disappeared long ago: the fine jewelry stores, Norma Kamali and her famous sleeping bag coats, all the little coffee shops and restaurants. “It’s become very generic,” she said.I remember when Dean & DeLuca opened. It was 1977. I lived around there at the time. It was the lovely beginning of things getting too upscale. Still, where else can you go? If I were Sampson, with $6,000 a month to spend on rent, I'd pare the possessions down like hell and move back to SoHo.
How can you keep all that stuff at the end of your life? Who will deal with it when you are gone, and how can you yourself keep it in order as you age? I realize she's not a big "order" person, but everyone has their comfort point between order and chaos, and you have to think about where, for you, the balance is tipped.
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How can you keep all that stuff at the end of your life? Who will deal with it when you are gone, and how can you yourself keep it in order as you age?
If you are a hoarder it doesn't matter if you can keep it or not, you simply do.
I don't think it's fair to call her a hoarder.
If she were a hoarder, the NYT would be wrong to expose her to the world with these photographs. She is an artist, a bohemian, and she — in the original SoHo style — lived in her workspace.
To say "hoarder" is to say she has a mental problem. She had a lifestyle and workstyle.
Dang it. You made the article and pictures sound so fascinating, I was willing to give the NYT a click. They require an email address to register. That's more than I'm willing to give. Too bad.
Found the original listing.
If in the end, her NYT death notice mentions her corpse was found beneath a pile of her "...lifestyle and workstyle..." then can we call her a hoarder?
Ann Althouse said...
To say "hoarder" is to say she has a mental problem. She had a lifestyle and workstyle.
I disagree. Based on some experiences with my wife's family, it's possible to be a hoarder and not have severe mental health issues. I've watched my father-in-law accumulate crap with the justification that it's a "future project". It's all neatly stored and organized, but it's still crap. He's 80 and probably has enough "future projects" lined up for 3 lifetimes. My mother-in-law won't let him take trash to the dump (in the rare instances he agrees to get rid of some of his crap) because he always seems to come back with more crap than he left with. Most people who know him would judge him to be a sane and very personable fellow.
Personally, I think he just can't resist the urge to take on another "project" and it's probably rooted in a fear of death. Which I wouldn't say is a severe mental issue as we all have it. Their living space isn't cluttered or trashy, by the way, but the basemen and his shop; oy!
Ann, you have written about "death cleaning" before and even linked that little book on the subject written by the Swedish person. It was an interesting read and they/you are right. Take control of your life here so you don't leave so much work for those who come afterward. Doing otherwise is selfish.
Every closet in our house, except one I jealously guard for myself, is filled with my wife's clothes, going back 35 years or so.
She's certain that padded shoulders are coming back some day soon, I guess. And that she's going back to being size 10.
I've lifted a line from the old Tim Allen sitcom "Home Improvement", and refer to it as her "I have a Dream" Collection.
In 77, I was living in a loft in Chelsea, in transition myself from a large firm associate to a software entrepreneur. Shopped at Dean and DeLuca's occasionally as well. I'd left Manhattan long before it closed, but the area was clearly become more upscale when I moved. I was sorry to see the store go, and wondered how it lost its appeal.
Now that I've looked at the listing pictures, I feel very claustrophobic and I wonder if there were pest problems. I'm sure that's unfair, but I was twitching just looking at the cluttered kitchen table.
It's a dump and she lived as if it were a dump. How often, if ever, do you suppose that space got cleaned? I hope she invests her sale money wisely.
I've got 135 years of clutter to deal with...one day. Got a dozen steamer trunks upstairs in the chicken house next door. Packratting is hereditary.
She really killed it on the timing of the sale. Another couple of months and she would have had to take a 40% 'Rona haircut. And of course, no open houses these days.
My dad had a garage piled high with boxes of magazines, books, and other detritus he had accumulated over 50 years. A few months after his death, my mother asked my brothers and I, as her Christmas present, to clean out the garage.
She rented a huge metal dumpster from the city, which was brought to our house and deposited next to the driveway by a city truck. I assumed the task would be lengthy, given the volume of material to go through and the judgements to make about what to keep and what not. However, most of it was so laden with dust, cobwebs, dead insects, and mold we just began shoveling it out, (literally). Total time to dispose of a half century's worth of stuff my dad couldn't let go of: 3.5 hours.
We did salvage two or three boxes of paperbacks that had been only recently placed in the garage, and were still in good shape. We later donated those to the local Good Will.
I realized: One person's treasure is another's garbage to clean up.
I have the same tendencies to hold on to books, magazines, printed material, letters, etc., with the idea that I want to be able to return to and reread any of it when I please. I realize this is only fancy, so I am starting to make decisions what to part with. However, I know even now that I will not, of my own volition, get rid of at least 75% of my books (and I won't stop buying more).
Looking at the pictures, I must admit, that space seems quite livable to me, just as it is.
Some pictures are quite beautiful. Others make her look like a hoarder.
One under appreciated benefit of Giuliani's New York is that many thousands of poor immigrants and other unskilled workers who bought houses in crappy neighborhoods for almost nothing in the 70's were, by 2000, able to sell them for over a million and have a decent retirement.
It doesn't look like she has frequent dinner parties, but I see plenty of floor.
I clicked on the link that Birches provided above for the original listing.
Based on what I see there regarding her taste in decor, she's better off buying a log cabin in Oklahoma and settling down there. Could probably save some $$ too.
Not a bad return. But if she had invested the $15 grand in Berkshire Hathaway in 1972 she would have about $63 million today.
Great post of old NYC!
I had an old pal who, in the mid-1960s got an apartment at the Apthorp. Great, classic place, I had dinner there a few times. The foyer looked like a scene out of an old Marx Brothers movies, with high ceilings and stairways
He told me that, at the time, he was a bit worried, because rent was $200/month, which was pretty steep back then. He was hoping to spend not more than $125 or $150/month.
Anyway, 10 years ago, they offered to buy him out for $7 Million, but he stayed. Too many good decades there!
Gotta love Manhattan rent control:)
$15,000 in 1972 sells it for $2.4 million
That's about 11% annual interest.
That's at least $1M less than I would have expected a place of that size to go for in that area. Those "contingencies" must indeed be severe. And there's no discount in NYC, or at least here wasn't before corona, for a cluttered/hoarder/estate condition property.
Time, and NYC, hasn't been kind to Ms. Sampson.
450 people. Wow.
Another artist who collected people and things.
She couldn’t keep the people - ex-husband, for instance. And when you’re stuck in time, friends age and die.
Here she is, too old and frail to continue independently, so it’s a young “roommate”. Not “friend”.
I see these stories of wasted lives dilly-daddling, hosting “the best parties”, living in the “now” and there’s no one left to mourn your passing.
She’s an artifact, a curio. She’ll leave nothing of value behind her. What a selfish, flicker of life.
Robert Cook said...I have the same tendencies to hold on to books, magazines, printed material, letters, etc., with the idea that I want to be able to return to and reread any of it when I please.
I used to be like that--I couldn't throw things out because they might be useful one day. I was cured in my 30s when, I the space of about 5 years, I was twice forced to move and leave virtually everything behind. Both times I was amazed by how little I missed those things that so pained me to let go of.
The experience hasn't made me a minimalist and I still have a few "future projects" around the house, but it no longer pains me to let go of things that have become inconvenient to keep.
Has BLM scheduled that neighborhood for destruction?
Because of recent health-related problems, my older daughter's death, and my age (65), I have decided to pare down my collections and belongings. No family member wants my stuff (except maybe one ex-wife, my other daughter's mom, who might take the photos. I am going to give my comic book history collection to someone on a Facebook group, the same with my Marx Bros stuff. I want to give it to someone who might appreciate it. I don't want to be a burden when I go and I'm paying a storage unit fee to just keep the stuff.
THEOLDMAN
"I remember when Dean & DeLuca opened. It was 1977. I lived around there at the time."
So we were neighbors. I bought a loft at 290 Lafayette St in 1976 ($20,000 for 3,000 sq ft of raw space), and lived there for almost 5 years. Sold and moved to Brooklyn in 1980 when SoHo became just another tourist mecca -- the tour groups even starting trooping through the local grocery store (D&D). Only thing I really missed was being able to drop in to Fanelli's on a whim.
Robert Cook I have the same tendencies to hold on to books, magazines, printed material, letters, etc., with the idea that I want to be able to return to and reread any of it when I please.
Me too! BOOKS.... and craft magazines with patterns. I DO really go back and re-read the books after some years have passed. Other books that I have read and feel that they aren't worth a re-read or which are common authors or in paperback get donated to our local non-profit library. I also donated all of my college reference books in Archaeology, Anthropology, Geology and some Art books in ceramics with formulas for glazes to the art guild. Someone can get some information from those....I hope.
When I start to feel that I have too much stuff...I watch an episode of Hoarders on YouTube and get my rear in gear to throw things away, donate to charity and do some deep cleaning.
About every other year I get the bug to de-clutter and get ruthless with throwing, paring, donating and in general downsizing. Other than one or two things that I regret getting rid of...I miss nothing. It is LIBERATING.
I'm not a hoarder....I'm a collector...see the difference..SEE IT!!! (lol)
It's sad. They are leaving, leaving. Leaving us forever.
"...From "The Last of the SoHo Pioneers/An artist who bought a loft on West Broadway for $15,000 in 1972 sells it for $2.4 million and retires to her home borough of Queens" (NYT)..."
Really poor retirement planning - Queens - NYC taxes????
I wouldn't change a thing. Except for the toilet seat.
I think she is lucky to get out now. I pronounce that we have reached Peak Manhattan. After the election, no matter who wins, wealth is going to take a dive.
Bill, the most shocking looting in NYC was on Spring St in Soho, where the degentrification project involved looting all the fine jewelry and other boutiques for nearly a full hour before cops arrived. Apparently a contingent of looters feinted for the bridges to Brooklyn and doubled back to Soho, while cops massed at the entrance to the bridges. Some new guy reported it live, including when the cops finally showed up.
Don't they subcontract that to antifa?
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