Vos also questioned why Gov. Tony Evers hadn't intervened in the destruction of the statues, given it took place on state Capitol property. Protesters also broke windows of a state building near the Capitol which houses the state jobs agency, among other state offices.
Spokeswomen for Evers and Madison Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway did not respond to questions late Tuesday about police force's slow response.
After 1 a.m., a line of about 20 police officers stood in riot gear as a crowd of about 100 remained, breaking into occasional chants; police played a recording stating the gathering was unlawful and telling people to leave.
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"This is absolutely despicable. I am saddened at the cowardice of Madison officials to deal with these thugs."
Tweeted Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, R-Rochester, quoted in "Madison protesters tear down Capitol statues, attack state Senator from Milwaukee as fury erupts again."
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I saw someone describe the AWFL's (affluent white female liberals) as the new iteration of the Manson girls. it's a good fit
Little sympathy for the denizens of Wisconsin. Live by the sword, die by the sword. You hired them you can fire them...
police played a recording stating the gathering was unlawful and telling people to leave
Stop! or we'll yell Stop! again!!!'
"...police played a recording stating the gathering was unlawful and telling people to leave."
That was my first thought when I saw the first post, "Scott Walker would have stopped this from happening."
Is this good for Biden or Trump?
I’m glad Heg has fallen. He was a European who came to America to meddle in our affairs and kill white Americans to save Blscks from their natural and rightful state of enslavement. Now he’s been toppled by the ungrateful shitskins who benefitted from his self sacrifice. I hope he suffered greatly at Chickamauga.
Meanwhile Trump tweet declaring that this won’t be tolerated in DC is suppressed as “hate” by Twitter.
"Vos also questioned why Gov. Tony Evers hadn't intervened...”
Every once in a while the stupidity of these people is laugh out loud funny.
“If only the Tsar knew!"
No, sir. Let it simmer for a little while.
You think Trump was the only one standing back?
The Dems would let the mob lynch white people in the town square if it kept the polls moving in their favor.
If you don't follow the declaration that the gathering is unlawful with a volley might as well not have the police there telling them the gathering is unlawful.
Riots stop when rioters are killed, en masse if necessary. Doesn't matter if the rioters are good or evil, or if the government is good or evil. Application of deadly force stops riots. This has been known since before recorded history began.
You get what you voted for...Enjoy your downfall....
You get more of what you encourage, less of what you discourage.
Right now, TPTB (The Powers That Be) are encouraging civil unrest.
And the businesses, discouraged by a complete lack of support, are pulling out. And taking their tax revenue with them. Or they're staying because they can't move out - and accepting that they're likely going to be burned out or go bust because the actual customers aren't going to be there.
Really odd how TPTB NEVER seem to think there'll be any negative repercussions for their decisions.
"He must be mistaken, the protesters are celebrating a summer of love bringing peace and joy to all. Perhaps he beat himself up and thought protesters did it."
-Comfortably Smug, twitter
I am a Minnesotan who was in Madison last year and, because of my interest in the Civil War, I noticed and took a couple of photos of the Colonel Heg statue. I'm glad I did. People have gone f'ing insane and the people who should be preventing this kind of activity appear unwilling to do so. My condolences to the people of Madison who have to put up with this crap.
Shameful. Madison needs to take a long hard look at their failures, but they won't. The shitbags will win and the ladies who lunch will do no more than utter a discreet "tsk tsk" as the Capitol burns.
The people of Madison voted for this.
They deserve it.
It's not like you were not warned.
History cannot be clearer.
The mob will not care.
The mob destroys wantonly.
Trump wins Wisconsin and about 39 other states.
Our only hope is to repeal the 19th Amendment....
So, we really have no hope....
Tuco's Rule will apply, eventually. God help the eggs in the mob when that particular omelet gets prepared.
Our only hope is to repeal the 19th Amendment...
So...we really have no hope...
I read Mayor Rhodes-Conway's Wiki entry.
It reads like it was concocted by the Babylon Bee, I have to confess.
Here, go ahead. Read it yourself. Read the whole thing down to where the footnotes start.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Rhodes-Conway
Oh, the Humanity!
"This is absolutely despicable. I am saddened at the cowardice of Madison officials to deal with these thugs."
Quite true. They are both cowards and co-conspirators. As others have opined, I too believe that most of these blue areas that are letting the thugs run wild are doing it for both of the above reasons AND they are so hoping that Trump goes all Rambo on their asses so that the Democrats and media can have their "Kent State" moment in time for the elections.
It looks like Trump is a couple of steps ahead of them and plans to hold his position on this, which is [and rightfully so] a state/local matter BUT I will set in and put a stop to it once asked (as it should be).
Boy, for a fascist/Nazi/dictator/tyrant that EVERYONE is so fed up with, he certainly seems to understand that whole separation of powers and federalism so much better than the last [what] half-dozen or so Presidents we have had especially that constitutional law expert we just had in office.
List the house yet?
Madison Police will next start playing "Back Off Boogaloo." That'll work.
I'm getting suspicious of that word "dispicable" now. They always use it so pro forma that it makes me think the speaker is full of shit.
Besides, in my head I hear Daffy Duck pronouncing it "dith-picable!" and LOL.
"destruction of the statues, given it took place on state Capitol property. Protesters also broke windows of a state building"
Didn't your capitol building have a time of it back in 2011?
Is it still standing?
You're still gonna vote Democrat, aren't ya?
No arrests? No significant consequences?
In other words: They continue to encourage the behavior and want more destruction. Got it.
I like this phrasing in wikipedia for the second amendment, "The Second Amendment was based partially on the right to keep and bear arms in English common law and was influenced by the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Sir William Blackstone described this right as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense and resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state."
Too often the second amendment is focused on the individuals right to bear/own arms.
But the 2nd amendment is equally about civic protection in the case of a failed or oppressive state.
I fail to see why in many of these cities it would be bad, wrong, or illegal for a local militia to enforce local law and order against those who are attacking the community - with citizen arrest and appropriate use of force as necessary. And only where the government has stood down from its duty.
Good response from Governor Evers...
Governor Tony Evers
“What happened in Madison last night presented a stark contrast from the peaceful protests we have seen across our state in recent weeks, including significant damage to state property. I want to be clear: violence against any person—whether in the middle of the street in broad daylight, at home trying to sleep, going for a run, or happening upon a protest as was the case last night—is wrong. It should never be tolerated. Any single act of injustice against one person is less justice for all of us, and the people who committed these acts of violence will be held accountable. My thoughts are with Sen. Carpenter who was among the individuals attacked last night and wish him a quick recovery.
We also cannot allow ourselves to forget the reason why these protests began: because of the murder of George Floyd, of Breonna Taylor, of the many Black lives taken before them, and because racism and structural inequality still pervade this country. Our cause and our purpose must continue to be the pursuit of the promise of an equitable, just, and fair state and country, and we cannot delay delivering on these promises any longer.
We are assessing the damage to state property, including the State Capitol building, the surrounding area, and the Tommy G. Thompson Center. Both “Forward” and Col. Hans Christian Heg statues have been recovered. The Capitol Police Department responded to attempts to breach the State Capitol and were able to prevent additional penetration of the building. Additional resources from the Wisconsin State Patrol were also dispatched to provide support to the Madison Police Department.
We are prepared to activate the Wisconsin National Guard to protect state buildings and infrastructure and are continuing to work with local law enforcement to understand their response to last night’s events and their plan to respond to similar events in the future.”
The linked article uses the familiar "mostly peaceful protests" construction.
Is that the same as partly violent protests? Or maybe somewhat violent? A little violent?
Just trying to form a complete picture.
Takes Gov Evers 10 hrs to respond! Well, what would you expect from a life long state bureaucrat? Nothing comes before 10 miles on my Peloton bike and oatmeal.
When the government no longer has the will to defend itself and one of the two major parties is too afraid to stand up to such protests, it means we are in a pre-revolutionary situation.
The Shah ordered his police/troops not to shoot demonstrators. Batista fled.
It wouldn't matter if the most esteemed Republican in history were president. Let's say Eisenhower. The other party would vilify him and seek his ouster by illegitimate means, either in the streets or by impeachment.
It is a battle royale between the traditional American Way of Life and multiculturalism. (You can see the conflict in Gorsuch's most recent Supreme Court opinion.)
"If Republicans today conceived of their purpose as preserving this American way of life, then I think they would more easily see that that way of life is being attacked by proponents of another way of life (or regime). They would then be better equipped to repel it. That other regime is multiculturalism. As I am using the term, multiculturalism sees society not as a community of rights-bearing individuals with a shared understanding of a national good, but as a collection of cultural identity groups, ranked in order of victimhood (though all oppressed by white males), and aggregated within highly permeable national boundaries.Multiculturalism replaces American citizens with so-called “global citizens.” Entire essay is here at The American Mind.
But where is Inga?
Here's an idea. Let's dress up a bunch of men and women (but mostly men) in blue uniforms that make liberals want to hit, kill, and destroy, and send those men and women out in front of masses of these people seething at them, with orders to do nothing. Even if attacked or witnessing destruction of property and/or attacks on others- do nothing.
Imagine if all the Democrat leaders in all the Democrat-led cities around the country gave the same orders to their people in blue.
How did you think things would turn out?
Vote Democrat and you're voting for the destruction of your city, state, and country. Period. Nothing more needs to be said.
The Democratic Party in Wisconsin has been promising their Black Voters and Supporters that they would "do Something" for them during every single election that I can remember. I can appreciate that the elected officials who have done very very little are now in a tight spot. Come out against this, and the past failure -- abject failure -- will be held up to them, and explanations demanded. Do nothing, and the majority will melt away from them.
The roof. The roof. The roof is on fire...
Madison will understand that chant intimately.
Or they will keep pretending statues committed suicide.
Madison is quickly becoming another shithole.
Heg will never be back.
Unless a super-dominant (totalitarian) conservative government puts him back.
Because from now on I think it will be a partisan-tribal symbol.
From the Masison, Wisconsin wikipedia entry:
"City voters have supported the Democratic Party in national elections in the last half-century, and a liberal and progressive majority is generally elected to the city council."
It's almost as if elections have consequences.
ga6 said...
List the house yet?
our thoughts also.
Firearms training may come in handy for standing your ground,
but moving is a more certain bet.
What is the hope? That this will blow over without much loss?
"Biden" winning the election, and that appeases the mindless mob?
Is there a red-line/threshold that once crossed, it's over?
"Go down with the ship" out of emotional attachment?
DWOYS-- "Dude, We're On Your Side" isnt working now, or later.
What is the hope? It would be interesting to hear a liberal's answer
#ASAB
All Statues Are Bastards
Not a Hawaiian shirt in sight. Inga hardest hit (besides State Sen. Carpenter, D-Milw., that is).
mtrobertslaw said...But where is Inga?
In Madison, cheerleading the chaos.
Seems pertinent: What's Your Woke Breaking Point?.
I never foresaw cutting off my alumni association.
Col. Hans Christian Hegg will likely end up just south of Madison in Stoughton, where anti-racist heroes and Norwegian heritage are still valued.
From Evers' response: It should never be tolerated
Then why was it?
Scott Walker can certainly say,"Miss me now?" The voters are slow learners in Wisconsin.
"“What happened in Madison last night presented a stark contrast from the peaceful protests we have seen across our state in recent weeks”
Strange how all of those stores were boarded up against “peaceful protesters.” This is nothing but a dog whistle to the rioters that what they are doing is approved of and gaslighting to the people who object.
" It should never be tolerated.”
But, you know. I did tolerate it because removing Trump is more important than history, Hag was white anyways. What more evidence of his guilt do you people need?
Chaos ("evolution"), a hidden order.
"are continuing to work with local law enforcement to understand their response to last night’s events and their plan to respond to similar events in the future.”
When rioters smash your business, help is only weeks away.
Mark today. On June 24 Joe Biden took a “commanding” lead of 14 points over race-baiting Trump, Union statues bowed in honor.
It will be his high water mark and laughable when we look back on it in November.
Spokeswomen for Evers and Madison Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway did not respond to questions... because they were too busy shitting their pants, while chanting:
Kill Us Last! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Kill Us LAST!
#BronzeLivesMatter
Shitholt cities are no fun to ruin ... they’re already shitholes. But the Madisons of the world .... now there’s a prize to be trampled upon. The center of gravity in this Civil War is sliding to the left. The split between the true believers and the white liberal female stooges is upon us.
My advice: If your car still has an Obama bumper sticker on it, now’s the time to remove it. Times they are a-changing.
@ Todd and others aid...
Q: was the "Kent State" moment avoidable even then? what have been the consequences that could have been avoided?
help me understand the history
your Governor said...
a stark contrast from the peaceful protests we have seen across our state in recent weeks
tell me Again, Why the plywood is up on State Street?
the Capitol Police Department responded to attempts to breach the State Capitol and were able to prevent additional penetration
'prevent additional penetration' ?
Sounds like Tara Reade
@Calypso Facto - Col. Heg would be welcomed with open arms in Stoughton, that is for sure. And he should be.
“Strange how all of those stores were boarded up against “peaceful protesters.” This is nothing but a dog whistle to the rioters that what they are doing is approved of and gaslighting to the people who object.”
Sure, and if the governor/mayor/city council doesn’t care, why should the police? It’s amazing there haven’t been major police walkouts yet. But the summer is young.
I anxiously wait for the Mayor’s comments.
Probably another apology for arresting the bull-horn carrying young man - it was more forceful than was needed - and he was just peacefully walking around educating the patrons of Coopers Tavern. She will talk to the police and get them to release him as soon as possible and it won’t happen again. ????? I know that some local individuals are calling for her to resign - but I don’t see her doing that - she is there for the “people”.
Come out against this, and the past failure -- abject failure -- will be held up to them, and explanations demanded. Do nothing, and the majority will melt away from them.
Their abject failure came from doing the same old Progressive stuff that usually doesn't work as intended and only makes matters worse. It is virtually the same thing as doing nothing. Yet the Progressives vote for the same failure again and again.
Blogger Inga said...
"Good response from Governor Evers...
Governor Tony Evers
“What happened in Madison last night presented a stark contrast from the peaceful protests we have seen across our state in recent weeks…"
"Good responses" don't start with a lie.
Blogger Almaron Dickinson said..."My condolences to the people of Madison who have to put up with this crap."
Thank you.
I consider Madison special place for one reason only
The Objectivist Ethics by Ayn Rand. Paper delivered by Ayn Rand at the University of Wisconsin Symposium on “Ethics in Our Time” in Madison, Wisconsin, on February 9, 1961.
she would be burned at the stake today
I wonder if any one remembers from 60 years ago.
not many intellectual minded even dare to read it - so you have what you have
Let’s give Evers a break. How do you reverse 30 years of political indoctrination and ignorance taught at the University of Wisconsin? The symbolism of the backward momentum is rich. Are the profs and administrators horrified yet at their own creation?
I am hoping the looters discover the vast wealth held in Madison homes.
Perhaps some folks will look to pay the Danegeld.
I have been reading through the comments looking for one by Ann Althouse herself.
Her clear eyed postings about the Act 10 "protests" so many years ago raised hopes her sharp legal mind would be applied to political stories in the future. Many recent posts prove otherwise as news stories many of us have learned to treat with skepticism and look for documentation she has taken at face value.
What you have seen and are seeing in Madison is the truth, not the news stories you read, of the "protests". They are a pale shadow of what happened in Minneapolis, New York, and elsewhere and nothing near the near coup attempt in DC.
When you voted for Evers and Rhodes-Conway, which I am taking on faith, THIS is what you voted for. This did not occur by accident or for the reasons stated in the approved press.
We are an unruly bunch that comment here. Please don't let class differences blind you to the truths we often state as that is such 1914 behavior.
Narayanan said...
@ Todd and others aid...
Q: was the "Kent State" moment avoidable even then? what have been the consequences that could have been avoided?
help me understand the history
6/24/20, 9:31 AM
Well at that time, they could have not fired into the crowd for 13 seconds. They could have use other methods to get the crowd to disperse (thou tear gas was already deployed) but I suspect some in the guard were just waiting for an excuse to open fire and "teach those college hippies a thing or two". I was not there so what do I know.
In this context it has less to do with the details of the historical event than with what today's media and Democrats would do with the results. They are hoping and praying (to what ever type of god they believe in) that Trump is somehow behind some sort of response that results in these rioters getting shot, hurt and (sorry I am a cynic) some killed, so that they can 24/7 crow about how despicable he is doing this to a bunch of young peaceful protesters that are NOT doing anything but exercising their constitutional rights to assemble and express their opinion on some needed social change. Just like with all of their watergate wishcasting, our modern firefighters are all hoping for there kent state moment, see https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/kent-state-shooting-50th-anniversary-trnd/index.html
For many of the rioters, this is still all co-play to allow them to feel better about their current lives and buy them more time to ignore all of their past poor choices and to forestall their coming reckoning because they are all so "righteous"!
Althouse asks: "Why [does not] Biden step forward to bring us together and calm the discord?"
Seriously? Biden is a Democrat. Democrats are the party of discord and division. Q.E.D.
Vote Trump for jobs.
Vote Biden and Democrats for mobs.
"The roof. The roof. The roof is on fire.."
Wow, that takes me back! I had to sit here and think about it for almost 10 minutes before I finally remembered where it was from. Had to keep saying it over and over before the next part of the lyric clicked into place, along with what era it was from.
Interesting to see Inga praising "thoughts and prayers" as a good response to a hate crime.
Inga said, "Good response from Governor Evers.."
Yeah, he really told 'em. They'll think twice before doing anything like thatf again.
"It should never be tolerated."
Ah, the passive voice. If only there were some person, someone in charge, who could take decisive action!
"We are prepared to activate the Wisconsin National Guard to protect state buildings and infrastructure and are continuing to work with local law enforcement to understand their response to last night’s events and their plan to respond to similar events in the future.”
Evers (to police chief): What is your plan to respond to similar events in the future?
Chief: Our plan is to stay the hello out of the way so we don't subject participants to excessive force.
Evers: Good plan.
Getting the government you voted for good and hard. Nothing is being done because the democrats in power approve and condone the rioting. That's just a fact. As they say "silence is violence". Well the democrat party is practicing some serious violence.
The winner..
Blogger ga6 said...
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6/24/20, 7:59 AM"
"Interesting to see Inga praising 'thoughts and prayers' as a good response to a hate crime."
I think and pray every day that statists and other coercion junkies will just go away to their own private Coventry or S&M dungeon where they can live out their master-serf fantasies and leave the rest of us the hell alone. But so far it hasn't worked, even if I light scented candles the way Marianne Williamson has taught us.
Original Mike wrote in response to Inga the State's Handmaid:
"'Good responses' don't start with a lie."
There is no truth but socialist truth, comrade.
Looks like the proletariat have gotten out of control. Who could have ever foreseen that?
Carpenter getting his ass kicked is the funniest part! He wanted to get a selfie with his comrades. He's down with the cause! Except his comrades are camera shy, and it's a complete mystery as to why.
Even if the mayor has had enough and orders the cops to arrest the rioters, the DA will not press charges and release them all. And the mob will only be more pissed off after that.
They will come for the bourgeoisie in their nice homes set on their nice lawns once they've run out of statues and window fronts to smash.
When the AWFL's (affluent white female liberals) were bused up to march in my town, many of us were open carrying.
Original Mike wrote in response to Inga the State's Handmaid:
"'Good responses' don't start with a lie."
There is no truth but socialist truth, comrade.
Someone, I don't remember who, suggested that all this burning, looting, and beatings is the left's Cultural Revolution.
So I looked up Cultural Revolution on Wikipedia. Turns out there's more than a few parallels.
Pulling down statues is one of the things the Red Guard did. They were trying to rid the country of the Four Olds: Old Customs, Old Culture, Old Habits, and Old Ideas.
Our professor here would fall into category nine of the Stinking Old Ninth: Landlords, rich farmers, anti-revolutionaries, bad influences, right-wingers, traitors, spies, capitalist roaders, and intellectuals.
I'm sure Mao's Red Guard was also "mostly peaceful."
So Professor, are you and Meade ready to move yet? You should move down here to East Tennessee near your nephew. A house costs half as much, property taxes are a fraction of what you pay in Madison, and there is no income tax. And I can assure you nothing like this would ever happen here. The few idiots we have know not to even try. Better get here while houses are still available. One of my wife's friends just sold her house to a couple from Vermont this week after it sat on the market for 2 years. My Zillow estimate just hit an all-time high yesterday. Activity is really picking up. Don't wait.
I doubt my Thiensville fun loving cousins are down with this shit. Be best Ann and Meade.
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