There is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent. Mail boxes will be robbed, ballots will be forged & even illegally printed out & fraudulently signed. The Governor of California is sending Ballots to millions of people, anyone.....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 26, 2020
Discussed at Fox News:
Within minutes, Trump accused Twitter of "interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election ... based on fact-checking by Fake News CNN and the Amazon Washington Post." The president added that the platform "is completely stifling FREE SPEECH" and vowed: "I, as President, will not allow it to happen!"ADDED: I was surprised to see that the correction didn't carry over into the tweet when it's embedded. At Twitter, it looks like this:
Twitter's new warning label was issued even though a Twitter spokesperson acknowledged to Fox News that Trump's tweet had not broken any of the platform's rules, and even though several experts have called mail-in balloting an invitation to widespread fraud.
And if you click on the "get the facts" link, it goes here.
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Gatekeepers desperatly trying to pretend that there is still a gate, and they should be entrusted with the keys.
"Experts say mail-in ballots are very rarely linked to voter fraud." So says Twitter.
So how is this a correction? "Very rarely" is less than "substantially?"
What's "very rarely"? What's "substantially"? Who the hell judges this?
Of course mailing a ballot to everyone will lead to voter fraud; why the hell do you think the left pushes for it?
Hint: the left always pushes things, they always break rules.
Where does the censorship stop? Thirty plus years of my book reviews at AMZN were deleted because I made the clearly satiric suggestion to bomb coal fired power plants in China in order to save the planet from global warming.
FB, AMZN etc have a monopoly and are abusing their monopoly power.
Twitter tweets truth to facts. YouTube exhibits a similar condition under the Alphabet umbrella corporation.
Enjoy your communist over-lords. They lie.
Trump should give them the finger and walk...
...competition dawg....twitter needs it.
There is no possible fraud with any of the voting stunts that Democrats are pulling. Who amongst us doesn't have a trunkful of Biden ballots?
Twitter should not have gotten involved.
Now any tweet by anyone famous that isn’t factual a Trump will excoriate.
The Right has efficiently deployed the tactics of The Left.
If they are going to act like editors and manage the content, then they need to be held liable for every word they allow to be posted on their platform.
As if on cue, a mailman in West Virginia was arrested today by the FBI for tampering with absentee ballot requests.
Lol
I got three mail in ballots (in 3 different names) for the Democratic Primary in my state. I'm only going to vote my own ballot, but I can't see how anyone could ever catch me voting the other two. Voter fraud will continue until there is an election where it tips to balance to a candidate who is not favored by the elite media. In most elections, that is the Republican, but even in a Democratic Primary there could be an "upset" win of a non-favored candidate.
He's right. The UN, for one, goes out of its way to ensure one person/one vote in order to illuminate and mitigate the risk of democracy dying under a layer of privacy.
Twitter hired a Communist Party official as a director. She is currently closing accounts of anyone posting information China finds disagreeable.
PJmedia catches Google red handed serving Chinese masters.
But Ann thinks they are "trashy."
Unlike the NYT's or CNN that are openly working with the Chicoms.
By correction you mean contrary political point, right?
The "fact checkers" are partisans who want Democratics and Big Government Republican simps elected. They want regulatory capture and official government protection from competition. They want to legally squash opponents. And the Chamber of Commerce could not be happier to help.
Twitter deserves to go the way of AOL.
Who amongst us doesn't have a trunkful of Biden ballots? Hell, even those of us who don't know they are there (and even those who have recently cleaned their trunks)!
With mccullough's reference above, that makes three election fraud arrests/convictions within the last week.
Democratics cheat.
They cannot win otherwise.
Using CNN as a fact checker?
I don't see how Twitter keeps this little experiment going. How would their fact checks for the Russia Collusion thing have looked over the past 3 years? What would they have gotten right?
All those South Carolina mail in ballots found in Pennsylvania are just a debunked conspiracy theory.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Keepergate.
in person voting in an assigned polling place
hand counted paper ballots
Non counterfeitable voter ID card. Not just photo ID but a specific ID card usable ONLY for voting and related matters.
John Henry
Twitter is a bus station bathroom.
"but I can't see how anyone could ever catch me voting the other two"
If it's like Montana's system the first ballot envelope would be scanned in after signature verification, and your name marked as voted. The next two ballots would be rejected.
Does trump realize people have already been voting absentee *for convenience* for decades now? We reached 40% here last time.
And mail in voting killed a school bond levy because mail voting is easier than trying to remember to go to the polls for a separate school election.
From Hans von Spakovsky and J. Christian Adams at Heritage: Anew report has revealed how vulnerable voting by mail can be. It should alarm all who are pushing for all-mail elections: Based on federal data from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, millions of mail ballots were never counted as completed votes.
According to the commission’s 2016 report, for example, more mail ballots were misdirected and unaccounted for than the margin of votes between Hillary Clinton and Donald J. Trump. She had 2.9 million more votes, yet 6.5 million ballots were misdirected or unaccounted for by the states. In other words, for every vote that Hillary won over the eventual president nationally, more than twice as many mail ballots disappeared or went to the wrong addresses.
The data demonstrate the danger of putting the presidential election into the hands of the U.S. Postal Service, as well as the problems with inaccurate and out-of-date voter registration lists. https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/americas-hidden-voting-epidemic-mail-ballot-failures
West Virginia case:
https://mailchi.mp/wvago/mail-carrier-charged-in-wva-voter-fraud-case
Another case of election tampering by a Democratic.
And mail in voting killed a school bond levy because mail voting is easier than trying to remember to go to the polls for a separate school election.
Schwarzenegger scheduled a special election to pass some major reforms right after he became Governor. Bad idea. Always have one election for everything to be voted on for two years. The teachers' union in CA mortgaged their headquarters in CA to get enough money to flood the state with opposition. His initiatives lost and he gave up. Smoked cigars the next four years,
Never schedule a special election for something important.
"If they are going to act like editors and manage the content, then they need to be held liable for every word they allow to be posted on their platform."
What is this "need" you refer to? Buwaya, with all his effort, taught you nothing that has stuck.
What "they" need to do is pay the right people and keep on movin' on up and up and up.
Certainly neither you or I or Drago will stop them, with us merely commenting on Althouse.
Do you have lots of money to pay big-time lawyers like the Democratic Proggies pay theirs?
I don't ergo my answer is simple yet tough: forget all about it all. Assume unless otherwise proven even people like Althouse, when they vote proggie, are merely dragging you into Satanic diversions from honoring God and being rewarded along with your kin.
Why treat the trolls* as if they have serious points and are just misguided, sometimes slightly and other times moronically? Treat them like they would treat you if they had their Communism in America today, but knowing you will go to jail and they will sing "guilty as Hell, free as a bird" unto infinity.
*My trolling serves a purpose
"Blogger wild chicken said...
Does trump realize people have already been voting absentee *for convenience* for decades now? We reached 40% here last time.
And mail in voting killed a school bond levy because mail voting is easier than trying to remember to go to the polls for a separate school election."
Duh, "trump" doesn't have the first clue of all that you are well aware of, wild chicken.
He just wings it and lives off his daddies' money, totally not like you. Maybe you should write and article saying what you know could help trump, because the odds he realizes what you know are pretty low.
"I got three mail in ballots (in 3 different names) for the Democratic Primary in my state."
said h.
Then we get the quote also by h:
--but I can't see how anyone could ever catch me voting the other two--
Then we get from Wild Chicken:
"If it's like Montana's system the first ballot envelope would be scanned in after signature verification, and your name marked as voted. The next two ballots would be rejected."
Then "trump" maybe might not realize all that the commentator realizes, for some reason.
"correction" is a sloppy way to phrase what Twitter has done here; Not a subtle sloppiness either.
1.
a. To make or put right: correct a mistake; correct a misunderstanding.
b. To remove the errors or mistakes from: corrected her previous testimony.
c. To indicate or mark the errors in: correct an exam.
2.
a. To speak to or communicate with (someone) in order to point out a mistake or error.
b. To scold or punish so as to improve or reform.
3. To remedy or counteract (a defect, for example): The new glasses corrected his blurry vision.
4. To adjust so as to meet a required standard or condition: correct the wheel alignment on a car.
v.intr.
1. To make corrections.
2. To make adjustments; compensate: correcting for the effects of air resistance.
adj.
1. Free from error or fault; true or accurate.
2. Conforming to standards; proper: correct behavior.
I would not call what Twitter did a "correction"; it seems more like an editorial comment to me.
Democrats stereotyping their constituents as too lazy to vote. Just like Bernie bros.
Of course, all those Wisconsin voters who died from virus ....
Link shows vid of Nadler in 2004 saying mail in fraud rampant.
What if Twitter decided to delete his account entirely? What would he do? There is no alternative outlet for the guy's weird thoughts.
This is Twitter doing what I so hate in modern journalism: presuming to tell me what to think.
Have I got this right? You can hijack an election with a few Facebook ads, but ballots through the mail are tamper-proof.
Correct this, meaning un*&^* yourself Wallace* and understand truth being told:
https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2020/05/26/boom-kayleigh-mcenany-dropkicks-chris-wallace-over-suggestion-that-journalists-shouldnt-be-questioned/
*Is he related to the Democratic segregationist George Wallace? Were they in the KKK together assuming that's where Democratic power can be their's for the taking? Where was Chris when JFK was assassinated?
I think that if a social media platform allows but also censors certain types of political content, it could be a violation of campaign finance law that forbids corporations from donating directly any thing of value to a campaign.
What's the fair value of Twitter's intervention? For FEC campaign contribution purposes?
This action by Twitter is perfectly explained by Robert Conquest:
'The behavior of any bureaucratic organization can best be understood by assuming that it is controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies.'
TDS makes people dumb. That would be my excuse if were them.
"Certainly neither you or I or Drago will stop them, with us merely commenting on Althouse."
Wait a minute. You mean this stuff doesn't go right to the top? I know for a fact that what a certain group of people here say has incredible power to affect things, because everything they say ends up wrong. Somebody very high up must be working their ass off to make that happen. It can't be just a coincidence.
$800,000 now, 66% to Guild and the rest split between Althouse and the attorneys.
We will make this work, trust me. Everybody wins, you get all you asked.
Wild Chicken:
"If it's like Montana's system the first ballot envelope would be scanned in after signature verification, and your name marked as voted. The next two ballots would be rejected."
Which of the three names are marked as voted?
All the work, the stress, the accumulation of a lifetime of deadlines' tolls, will be rewarded most handsomely, most handsomely indeed.
I can hear your father now, he's talking through me, like John Edwards had juries believe so he got rewarded with with the Democratic's VP nod, and he says "hey, believe that guy" so maybe just sign the papers and give Guild his 66%?
White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany also shared a report on Tuesday from the Las "Vegas Review-Journal, indicating instances of ballots discovered lying around unclaimed in public spaces for the taking.
The outlet reported further that "Jenny Trobiani, a 36-year veteran carrier with the U.S. Postal Service, said she had never seen anything like the influx of absentee ballots that were 'no good.'" She said, "(The recipients) had all moved or died."
Trobiani, The Review-Journal reported, "Kept 65 of these ballots with her on her first delivery say after they began to flood in from the county, and more than 100 on the second. In all, she said, there were thousands sitting in crates with no additional safeguards and marked to be sent back to the county.""
BUT WE HAD A DEAL??
WTF? I thought I comment and get paid roughly 401K a year and people thank me for it. How could that arrangement ever change? Contracts never change. Duch, otherwise they wouldn't be contracts.
No, a contract is more precious than life. Contracts are, have will, be, and are, back then, uh ih ih always... uh, enforceable with enough firepower.
I like how one of the items at the linked twitter "Get the Facts" page is "Trump's Tweets 'are a refrain we’ve heard over and over from Trump over the past four years — a refrain that literally has never been substantiated.' — Washington Post."
Kind of like the past several years of WaPo reporting about "Russian collusion" and other matters, eh?
I don't think the risk is that people will take your vote, although I don't know what happens if they get in first under your name, but it does seem pretty easy to vote for someone who doesn't bother. I don't see how you prevent that with mail-in ballots. It will be done, if it gets discovered, the Dems and the media will gang up to say it didn't happen or doesn't matter, and off it goes in the rear view mirror. We saw Al Franken steal an election right in front of everybody, and we saw Gore try to.
Chris Hitchens would have said:
This is Quite ExtrOORdinary.
"BUT WE HAD A DEAL??
WTF? I thought I comment and get paid roughly 401K a year and people thank me for it. How could that arrangement ever change? Contracts never change. Duch, otherwise they wouldn't be contracts.
No, a contract is more precious than life. Contracts are, have will, be, and are, back then, uh ih ih always... uh, enforceable with enough firepower."
Indeed the dead always back me up. Always. Even in my Tolkien.
And amongst others I remember the ultimate kiln toll: Annie Liebowitz.
Given the Democrats' wet-dream of 100% mail-in voting I'm wondering if there is a way to prevent ballot stuffing while still keeping who you voted for a secret.
Here's an idea: Every voter has a social security number and a date of birth, right? So compute HMAC(SSN+DOB+Secret1)=QR using a one-way Hash-based Message Authentication Code [HMAC]. Secret1 is randomly generated by the election bureau for each ballot. Print it as a scannable QR code on the ballot (think TicketMaster).
This gives each ballot a unique QR such that no two ballots are the same, preventing duplication. The voter can later confirm that his/her ballet was indeed counted by entering in their SSN + DOB at the election bureau's website to check.
The other problem is vote tampering. Using the same basic system the voter can verify on the election bureau's website to confirm who they voted for. When the ballot is received, the voting bureau scans the QR and computes HMAC(QR+MyVote+Secret2), where Secret2 is known only to the election bureau. Do this for each political office on the ballot. The voter can then go to the website and enter their personal info to confirm that the vote was counted correctly.
You can strengthen the privacy of the system by using something like two-factor authentication where a second entity (not the election bureau) counter-signs each with Secret3.
This system guarantees privacy, prevents ballot duplication, and detects vote tampering. Or is it too easy?
wild chicken said...
"but I can't see how anyone could ever catch me voting the other two"
If it's like Montana's system the first ballot envelope would be scanned in after signature verification, and your name marked as voted. The next two ballots would be rejected.
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it is the rejection part I am not sure about - two extra are different names.
how diligent are they about matching signatures?
how many sets of eyes?
does rejection mean destroyed or set aside for later (use)?
what if they come in without signature to raise any flags about not matching?
Or just send two mailings with the first containing a 4 digit PIN and the second where you write it in.
Nothing is foolproof, but it's a damn sight better than the current system the Dems want to use.
Shit just got real.
Also Joe Biden tweeted “wear a mask!” Got our orders, lunacy.
Dumb political move by Twitter.
Never pick a fight with Trump.
Choices are either Twitter quickly retreats, or Trump will attack Twitter.
But Twitters management knows they are the Super Duper Smart, Trump is Evil, and their cause is righteous!
I wonder what Trump will do? What can Trump do before the election?
How is what Twitter doing not a campaign finance violation? They allow political and campaign posts. They’re now censoring or “correcting”
Campaign information for one candidate. How’s that not a donation of value to the Biden campaign? In fact, isn’t it a potentially huge value?
I’d love to hear Twitter’s counter argument that it isn’t a campaign donation because our “correction” isn’t really of any value.
Hmmm...
I wondered why I am now aware of the phrase "racist tangerine" when I wasn't yesterday.
This: https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1265457578215124995
pro tip: if you are stocking up on popcorn, don't forget the popcorn salt.
steve uhr: "What if Twitter decided to delete his account entirely? What would he do? There is no alternative outlet for the guy's weird thoughts."
LOL
How is it even possible for someone to be this dense over and over again?
Zero capacity for dynamic analysis.
Somebody needs to explain why the States that decided unilaterally to go to mail-in voting are sending sending applications to inactive voters to their previous addresses and active voters are not getting applications at their current addresses.
Twitter could ban Trump and there isn't a damn thing anyone will do about it.
The media could stop airing anything Trump says live, and replace it with a panel discussing 'what he said', and there isn't a damn thing anyone will do about it.
The President of the United States could be un-personed, and the most you'll get is some in the GOP issuing a statement "This is wrong."
The twitter fool who is the "Head of Site Integrity" is so partisan, and so full of crap, he should be fired. This is who is telling us what we can and can't say, and fact checking us??? God Help us.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-exec-in-charge-of-effort-to-fact-check-trump-has-history-of-anti-trump-posts-called-mcconnell-a-bag-of-farts.print
"I’m just saying, we fly over those states that voted for a racist tangerine for a reason."-Yoel Roth, twitter site integrity.
Zero capacity for dynamic analysis.
That incapacity is sort of the progressive mind-set in a nutshell. “If we raise the minimum wage, nothing will change except wages.” “If the media sacrifices its integrity for partisan purposes, the only impact will be partisan advantage.” “If we make immigration easier, the profile of the average immigrant won’t change.”
"How is what Twitter doing not a campaign finance violation?"
How is what talk radio does not one?
My state can't even get its unemployment act together. No way I would trust a brand new mail in voting system in November.
And once again, the left rewrites History....they are scrubbing Andrew Cuomo's Executive Order demanding Nursing Homes take the infected. Scumbags. https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalreview.com%2Fnews%2Fcuomo-coronavirus-order-forcing-nursing-homes-to-take-covid-19-patients-scrubbed-from-new-york-state-website%2F
This isn't going to improve the reputation of Silicon Valley and it's enbubbled inhabitants. Someday a needle will come along and pop, pop, pop. Needles are like that.
Blogger wendybar said...
The twitter fool who is the "Head of Site Integrity" is so partisan, and so full of crap, he should be fired.
Do you think Twitter hired him for that position because they thought he was non-partisan, or more likely they hired the right man for the job for what they wanted to accomplish?
Leftist hate freedom. They only want to rule. They are "better people" doncha know.
Lefty Mark (who has difficulty googling things): "How is what talk radio does not one?"
When did Talk Radio become a publicly available platform that anyone can join but then encounters viewpoint discrimination?
Gee lefty Mark, you're a regular rocket scientist aren't you?
Another case of election tampering by a Democratic.
In that case the contract mail carrier (not an employee of USPS), changed the party affiliation from Democrat to Republican. That would be a pretty strange thing for a Democrat to do.
Liberals play to win. At all costs. No rules, no boundaries.
Republicans play by the rules, hoping to win. Never mind the rules they play by are set by liberals. Rules are rules.
It's the right thing to do...
Mollie Hemingway
Literally nothing has convinced me of the threat to election integrity posed by mail-in ballots so much as Twitter and other media furiously insisting you can't talk about it at all and working so hard to suppress the discussion of its (completely obvious) risks.
Set up polls at Costco.
Twitter joins other mainstream social platforms (e.g. Alphabet umbrella corporation) to drop the mask and steer its users.
Of all the things that Trump tweets that actually are factually incorrect or partial and misleading, they pounce on one that is NOT factually incorrect and a matter of legitimate controversy.But it relates directly to the election and must be stopped.
This is just a small taste of what Google, FB and Twitter will do between now and the election. Not to mention, NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, ... all of them.
By late October you will think all the former editors of the Volkischer Beobachter, Izvestia and Pravda have been reincarnated and taken over the US media on behalf of the Democratic Party. Which is pretty much the case if you view the current editors as the spiritual descendants rather than reincarnations of those German and Russian greats from the Hitler and Stalin eras.
Freder Frederson said...
Another case of election tampering by a Democratic.
In that case the contract mail carrier (not an employee of USPS), changed the party affiliation from Democrat to Republican. That would be a pretty strange thing for a Democrat to do.
If you took yourself seriously, then, you would be hollering for secure elections, because obviously the evil Republicans will do this thing, en masse, and outclass any pathetic, inexperienced efforts some individual Democrat-sympathetic-but-unaligned-and-deniable person might feebly attempt in order to redress the election fraud gap.
Curiously, you're not.
I'd ask why, but I already know.
"How is what Twitter doing not a campaign finance violation?"
How is what talk radio does not one? - Dumb Mark
I wish I could still be shocked at this level of stupidity.
Twitter did not flag President Obama's response:
Barack Obama [on Chris Mathews Show – MSNBC] cast doubts on mail-in-votes –“To much Fraud” and praised signature verification.
https://twitter.com/steveguest/status/1258868389520572416
So the biggies(NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS...et. al.)disagreed with their 'Messiah'?
Journalism is not a serious profession. It's a clown college full of clowns.
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