Last year, this board advocated strongly for a vigorous inquiry into accusations of sexual misconduct raised against Brett Kavanaugh when he was nominated to a seat on the Supreme Court. Mr. Biden’s pursuit of the presidency requires no less. His campaign, and his party, have a duty to assure the public that the accusations are being taken seriously. The Democratic National Committee should move to investigate the matter swiftly and thoroughly, with the full cooperation of the Biden campaign....There's no mention in the editorial of the way the NYT was used by so many Biden supporters, who claimed that the NYT had done an investigation and absolved Biden.
In his statement, Mr. Biden said that if such a document existed, there would be a copy of it in the National Archives, which retains records from what was then the Office of Fair Employment Practices... Later on Friday, after the National Archives said it did not have personnel documents....
Any serious inquiry must include the trove of records from Mr. Biden’s Senate career that he donated to the University of Delaware in 2012..... Any inventory should be strictly limited to information about Ms. Reade and conducted by an unbiased, apolitical panel, put together by the D.N.C. and chosen to foster as much trust in its findings as possible.... No relevant memo should be left unexamined....
IN THE COMMENTS: The Editorial Board speaks of "an unbiased, apolitical panel, put together by the D.N.C. and chosen to foster as much trust in its findings as possible," which prompted Roger Sweeny to say: "'Unbiased, apolitical panel' and put together by a political party do not go together."
But, you know, it makes sense to me. Who can believe in such a thing as "an unbiased, apolitical panel" in the first place? They don't arrive from Planet Neutralia. Are you going to find a neutral panel to appoint the neutral panel? Where do you start?! The Editorial Board puts the burden to pick the panel on a political entity with a huge political stake, and sets it up for our political judgement by announcing the standard that must be met: It's supposed to be "an unbiased, apolitical panel... chosen to foster as much trust in its findings as possible." Why would the DNC meet that standard? The reason is stated right there, and it's a political reason: the interest in getting us to trust the outcome.
Now, I wonder who could be chosen who could perform the task. We're told that the Biden archive at the University of Delaware arrived in the form of "nearly 2,000 boxes and more than 400 gigabytes of data" and that "most of it has not been cataloged." The Reade incident is alleged to have occurred in 1993: Was that the gigabytes era or the paper-in-boxes era? Who are the hyper-trustworthy, unbiased and apolitical investigators who can and will handle a project like that and do it quickly enough to work on the election time line? That's the problem I see. How is the DNC supposed to find people like that?!
ADDED: To state the problem is to see the real solution. This "unbiased, apolitical panel" — if anything like it could be convened — cannot get a creditable search done within a satisfying time line. Therefore: Biden needs to withdraw.
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"Unbiased, apolitical panel" and put together by a political party do not go together.
Any inventory should be strictly limited to information about Ms. Reade and conducted by an unbiased, apolitical panel, put together by the D.N.C.
Plus a special "literary justice" provision that would allow former senator Biden's fellow Democrats to stab him to death in the cloakroom of the US Senate.
This political gambit stinks no matter which side employs it. I don't care about fairness or getting even for Kavanaugh.
Men, ignore the feminists. Ignore anybody pulling decades old allegations out of their pockets.
Don't fall for this crap.
Don't be manipulated into enacting Althouse's Marxist feminist agenda for her. She's a master at this sort of manipulation. Don't buy.
The thing to do here, men, is to defeat Althouse's Marxist feminist agenda.
EVEN IF the NYT did an "investigation" nobody should belive it. The NYT has turned into one of the worst political hack institutions. They are full of ignorant, lying partisan propagandists. Actual reporting and especially investigative reporting died long ago at the NYT.
If you believe anything they write......well.....nuf said.
If there's no contemporaneous police report, then it didn't happen. At worst she changed her mind after a typical quid pro quo encounter - celebrity attention in return for a horny jolly.
Civilization survives that sort of encounter quite well, in fact may depend on it.
Paging Captain Renault...........
"Biden says that if any document exits it would be in the archive..."
Why am i suddenly thinking about Gary Hart and Liz Warren?
Really, you men don't see what Althouse is actually doing here?
She's got you debating which of you is going to go more balls deep saving the Damsels in Distress in order to further her Marxist feminist transformation of all of us into the New Man and New Woman.
I'm thinking any such document would have been long ago destroyed. Why wouldn't it be?
The DNC should investigate...? Seriously? The DNC?
Theater.
That's going to make it worse.
I have a better idea. There's only one person America trusts to do this investigation.
It has to be Hillary.
rhhardin said...
If there's no contemporaneous police report, then it didn't happen.
You are just wrong. I know women/girls who were sexually assaulted and didn't report it to the police. It happened. Going to the police over such a thing is a big huge deal.
Now, not going to the police causes its own problems when it comes to proving it and/or punishing the perpetrator. But that's different than stating something didn't happen.
The Biden camp got away with saying the Hunter Biden/Joe Biden Burisma improprieties had been investigated and debunked. It's just their go-to.
Can someone tell me why we think such a document would exist at this time?
“I don’t know why after 27 years all of this gets raised,” Biden said.
What exactly is, "this"?
I'm thinking any such document would have been long ago destroyed. Why wouldn't it be?
"Skin me, Br'er Mika, snatch out my eyeballs, tear out my ears by the roots, and cut off my legs, but please, Br'er Mika, whatever you do, don't look in my records at the University of Delaware!"
An unbiased panel put together by the DNC!?
The while point of donating Biden's papers to the University of Delaware was to put them outside the reach of open records laws. Releasing them just because they may contain information damaging to Biden would defeat the whole purpose.
Why doesn't hard-hitting journalist MSNBC Mika now invite Tara Reade to Morning Joe to get her side of the story?
Oh yeah, don't ask dumb questions, my grandma used to tell me.....
Why is this so hard?
The woman has no credibility. Its been too long. Laws are written to remove emotion from emotionally charged situations...for a reason.
I'm all for putting the woman in the town square and shaming her. Enough already.
What's James Comey doing these days? Maybe he could help.
I don't care anymore. I don't want to hear the Democrats say they are the party of women, or respect anymore. They can shove their sanctimonious hypocrisy down their throats, and they cans suck on it. I will never defend them again about anything. They are despicable.
"If there's no contemporaneous police report, then it didn't happen...."
That's a demand that Democrats confess to having wronged Brett Kavanaugh.
It's not square one.
Progs: "Why doesn't anybody trust us? We've been totally open about the fact that we lie all the time."
We've been exposed to these high production fictional tales written and produced by the left before. If you can't guess the ending by now that's on you...
iowan2 said...
Why is this so hard?
The woman has no credibility. Its been too long
You can argue all you want that your standards make the most sense, but far more important than them making the most sense is that they be applied evenly, without fear or favour. So, sorry, but your argument does not carry.
I'm tired of the Tara Reade story already. Though it certainly appears lightyears more credible than Ford v Kavanaugh, it was almost 3 decades ago, and I don't think we can effectively glean the truth and judge the behavior from way-back-when from this 2020 cultural vantage point. Memories churn and fade. We don't even know for sure if Biden remembers last week.
I am ok with outing the hypocrisy wrt Kavanaugh and trying to get a baseline of outrage behavior from both sides, however.
Why would the DNC meet that standard? The reason is stated right there, and it's a political reason: the interest in getting us to trust the outcome.
Should the Bernie voters trust the DNC?
As you say, it's not square one.
If there's no contemporaneous police report, then it didn't happen.
Normally I appreciate your comments. This one is shit.
Where do you start?!
Well- you don't start with the New York Times, which, let's face it, on it's best days is still regarded as one of the most biased news organizations on the planet. By any objective standard, this should cease being referred to as the paper of record. It gives Dems an invisible blanket to run under when lights are being shone their way. It doesn't make the truth go away, but it makes Dems believe they are under a secure blanket of 'special truth'.
Instead of poring through boxes and boxes of files and docs, they should just use the Dems process for Kavanaugh. Find some scatter-brained current professor (that should not be difficult) who is willing to claim that she knew Joe when he was a teenager and back then he raped her at a party. No witnesses needed. She does not even need to prove that she and Joe even met as kids, or if they did, she does not even have to prove that Joe was at that party. The Times and the networks loved that story before. They should love it again.
Hunter needs a job.
"If there's no contemporaneous police report, then it didn't happen."
You are just wrong.
I think he means "might as well treat as if it never happened"; similarly, if it wasn't worth reporting at the time, then it's not worth using taxpayers' money after-the-fact to prosecute someone and perhaps lock them in a cage.
This reminds me of josephine tey unconvering how tudor propagandists framed the case of richard 3rd first with shakeepeare down to alison weir, with philippa gregory offering a dissent.
You can argue all you want that your standards make the most sense, but far more important than them making the most sense is that they be applied evenly, without fear or favour.
tim maguire-
exactly
This about Dem voters and grass roots activists and feminists and opinion makers. Many are asking themselves, are we going to do this again?
The DNC's answer is clearly, yes, we must.
All that remains is to provide a little something to sooth the stomachs of the squeamish.
The one thing they won't want to do is give a sympathetic ear or an approved microphone to Tara Reade. They're afraid more women will come out of the woodwork if Reade is treated with respect. She has to be marginalized...delicately.
I remember when Obama had members of his team investigate whether members of his team had violated the law. The members of his team were happy to report there were no violations by members of his team.
Why couldn't that approach work for Biden?
Not the same process used for Kavanaugh?
The DNC has more to lose with trust than they do to gain by giving Biden a clear bill of health ? The same DNC that turned over leadership four years ago in disgrace? The same DNC caught violating their charter and lying constantly at their executive level about major national activities? No, trust means nothing to do. It’s an empty commodity they’ve already consumed.
How about the DNC plus RNC assemble a panel of equal parts Dems and Republicans?
Or perhaps we have some form of high integrity investigative body in this country ? No?
Think about the coordination at the NYT for them to specifically decide that their best recommendation needed to be the DNC.
They should have a panel of a single woman, a cruelly neutral Ann Althouse.
Biden denies, Pelosi says that "It is Biden" is sufficient. Sealed records are to remain sealed or are unavailable to be retrieved (besides the Biden team already went there). It has already been investigated (see Ukraine). But TRUMP(!)
All is well in Lefty-land.
Never mind. Go back to sleep.
Look- time is getting short now. The Dems know that, at some point, Joe Biden will have to start speaking in front of cameras and crowds again. And once the nation gets a reminding dose of Joe's brain at work, they'll have to have a back-up plan. Joe, as is, will not win if the people are actually allowed to hear him utter his thoughts.
So the time is now to start the process wherein they can come to Joe either before, or at the convention, and say, 'Sorry Joe. But you can't do this. We'll find some nice spot for you to hold in the party as Chief Wizened One, or something like that. But we're going to have to go with Hillary." Or Andrew. Or...someone yet to get them excited.
I mean- who wouldn't want to see a rematch?
Since they can search anyone going in, the DNC can “pick” a team proposed by the GOP or Tara Reade, and we can trust there will be no false positives. We cannot trust there will be no false negatives if the Democrats do it.
Adversarial system.
Tommy Duncan said...
I remember when Obama had members of his team investigate whether members of his team had violated the law. The members of his team were happy to report there were no violations by members of his team.
Exactly!
I also remember when the DNC had its own investigation into who hacked their servers - and it turned out it was the very group they were falsely accusing their political opponent of colluding with!!!!! And that was enough for 17 intelligence agencies!
Fuck you rape apologizing cucks. Biden is obviously guilty and needs to be outed and DQ'ed from the nomination.
According to the American Medical Association (1995), sexual violence, and rape in particular, is considered the most under-reported violent crime.[1] Common reasons for individuals not reporting crime include fear of not being believed, insecurity, and fear of getting into trouble. These reasons are most common for not reporting rape.[2] It is commonly assumed that most of the rape cases go unreported;[3] some estimates go up to or above 90%.[4][5] (See also Rape reporting.) Non-recognition of domestic violence may lead to under-reporting.
Trump did something with Stormy Daniels, paid for her silence, and tried to obfuscate the case. He may have told outright lies along the way. Doesn't matter. I will vote for Trump in the next election....Whatever the facts surrounding Biden are, I can't imagine any Democrat voting for Trump as a result of them.....The media doesn't seem to realize is that what this case unequivocally establishes is that the media biased against Republicans. This bias rises to the level of outright bigotry....The media, not Joe Biden, are the biggest losers.
Predictit has Hillary currently up to .06 cents, up from .02 cents on April 26...to win the Presidency.
Like with fireeye mandiant who came up with the apt 28 catchall and were party to the equifax hack.
I don't want Biden to withdraw. I don't want that to be the standard.
I think he is going to withdraw for other reasons, for health reasons. But I don't want it to be over this. That's not fair to him, and it isn't fair to the future Kavanaughs.
The FBI found nothing on Hillary’s email server.
Therefore: Biden needs to withdraw.
So, Althouse reveals her actual agenda. Her Marxist feminist ideology is to be the ultimate arbiter of our politics and our lives.
There are no police charges and no institutional charges against Biden, only gossip in the media.
Stop being blinded by the desire to get even over Kavanaugh. He's on SCOTUS. Don't double down on the Marxist feminist tactics used on him, which is what Althouse is arguing for.
Fernandistein 8:33 is correct. Though I’d accept a workplace complaint if it specifically mentions the fingers. She said she filed one so this is a test of her credibility.
You are just wrong. I know women/girls who were sexually assaulted and didn't report it to the police. It happened. Going to the police over such a thing is a big huge deal.
Now, not going to the police causes its own problems when it comes to proving it and/or punishing the perpetrator. But that's different than stating something didn't happen.
It's not a big deal. One country takes over another, the soldiers rape all the women, which pisses off their husbands, but they all go on with life.
It's a cultural thing about learned helplessness, as if feminine modesty were real rather than imagined.
It's bad being mugged too, but you just report it to the police and move on.
Explain how a raped vagina is worse than a damaged knee. The latter leaves you with a painful limp and corrective surgery. The former is people getting weepy.
In the new feminist world the least you'd expect is that there would be nothing special about vaginas except for a hygiene problem which you don't have with knees and elbows.
Police report or nothing. A police report at least indicates a single-mindedness that supports that it's against the woman's will, not something she changed her mind about later. Then you get a normal assault charge.
It was very clever of Ann Althouse to call for Joe Biden to withdraw, it gets her out of jury duty on this one.
I think he means "might as well treat as if it never happened"; similarly, if it wasn't worth reporting at the time, then it's not worth using taxpayers' money after-the-fact to prosecute someone and perhaps lock them in a cage.
I do not disagree with this, Fernandistein, as long as we aren't talking about a child/adult situation.
after the National Archives said it did not have personnel documents . . .
. . . Democrat hack mouthpieces were STILL pushing last night that disproven assertion that the National Archives did keep such records.
Wasn't Comey supposed to be some kind of neutral, above the fray investigator. He really cleared up all the questions surrounding Hillary's server and Trump's collusion with Russia....I don't see any investigation removing the taint (heh, heh) surrounding Biden. The die hard feminists will complain about him but, come election, they will vote for him.
Police report or nothing. A police report at least indicates a single-mindedness that supports that it's against the woman's will, not something she changed her mind about later. Then you get a normal assault charge.
If your argument is to treat it as a normal assault, that is an interesting and fair argument.
If, as you said earlier, it didn't happen or it wasn't against a woman's will if she didn't file assault charges, that's wrong. Just as you can get beat up and get your knee blown out against your will and not report it to the police. Doesn't mean you wanted it, and it doesn't mean it didn't cause damage.
"Who can believe in such a thing as "an unbiased, apolitical panel" in the first place?"
The sorts of people who think American judges are unbiased and apolitical, and who profess neutrality in their own observations of the passing scene.
I don’t normally call out other commentators, but what’s with the constant harping about Althouse’s supposed Marxist feminist transformation.
I’ve read every single post for over ten years. Like I go back to cheering for Meade way back in the day.
She may be more to the left than I am, but she’s hardly a Marxist.
That's a demand that Democrats confess to having wronged Brett Kavanaugh.
They don't have to confess. It's obvious and was obvious at the time that they're just stirring up women's sentiment against Kavanaugh so as to make it costly to vote to confirm. They were never serious about anything but that effect.
Women are easy to stir up. Mention their helplessness against the vile male population, and taxes on tampons.
They have the minds of bumblebees.
I'm thinking any such document would have been long ago destroyed. Why wouldn't it be?
Yeah since we’ve now learned that the records wouldn’t have been kept at the National Archives, they wouldn’t have even needed Sandy “Socks” Berger to lift them.
Biden withdrawing over this would be a nightmare for all men going forward.
"Who are the hyper-trustworthy, unbiased and apolitical investigators who can and will handle a project like that and do it quickly enough to work on the election time line? "
Peter Strzok and the FBI! Didn't they search a GazillionBits of Carlos Danger's laptop over a weekend? And they even had time for pizza!
As for trustworthiness, it's the FBI, man!
Frankly, I've had my doubts. Not that Biden isn't a creepy guy in a sexual predatory kind of way, but Reade's throwing the "Come on, man" into her narrative seemed a little too forced. And there was room for not giving the Larry King thing much weight because it only confirmed what has already been established.
HOWEVER, the more the way that Biden and his team respond, the more it looks like he is guilty or that his team thinks he's guilty. As for Demented Joe himself, I would not be surprised if he could honestly say that he has no recollection of such a thing happening -- mostly because he's demented, but maybe also because the incidents all run together at some point.
Certainly there was a culture of I'm-above-the-law sexual harassment in Congress at that time.
She may be more to the left than I am, but she’s hardly a Marxist.
Feminism is Marxism. Period. Althouse's constant campaign to create the New Man and New Woman is Marxism.
Yesterday, Althouse came out, essentially, in favor of the Green New Deal, that is a command and control economy run by experts with innovative and creative big ideas. She's in favor of overturning the market system, using the pandemic as cover.
She's an all out Marxist. Period. She doesn't call herself that, but she is.
She voted for Hillary while Obama and Hillary were corrupting the FBI and intel to spy on Trump and fabricate the Russia collusion hoax. I suspect that her idea of a replacement candidate for Biden will be a quota candidate, a woman, so as to further her Marxist feminist crusade.
Biden needs to withdraw.
So what will be the new standard in the wake of a Biden withdrawal?
Any Democrat man who is accused by a woman must withdraw?
Or will it be that no women come forward in the future to accuse a Democrat man?
Depends on what happens to Tara Reade if Biden withdraws and Trump wins in the fall.
LMFAO at Biden's and the Democrats' predicament- truly cosmic justice being served.
Women's idea is that there's no need for structure, only forces. Men are the ones who think about structure.
So it's huts for everybody in the new women's world.
Whether the sexual assault actually happened or not is one issue. And whether it happened or not, there is another issue -- one that now cannot be shunted aside for whatever reason.
The issue now is the actions of Biden and his team in response to Reade.
Whether you believe or disbelieve her, Biden and the Dems still need to be held to account for their behavior now.
"I'm thinking any such document would have been long ago destroyed. Why wouldn't it be?"
If they knew where it was, sure, and not long ago, more like last week.
Biden needs to withdraw.
Coitus interruptus isn't very reliable.
FIFY
Blogger MayBee said...
Biden withdrawing over this would be a nightmare for all lily-livered limp-dick cucks going forward.
Biden's people have already been through those archives when he decided to run. Just like Sandy Burglar went through the Clinton records in the National Archives.
Pick random names out of a hat.
But who owns the hat?
Is it a baseball cap or a top hat? Is using a top hat elitist?
Please, do not use a MAGA hat, as that would be biased.
Who writes the names? Does using a right-handed person discriminate against southpaws?
What color ink? A mix of colors so that diversity is adequately represented?
So many questions!
A Scenario
This was a supporter of the Democratic party who underwent an ugly, unprovoked assault by an important Senator but she hesitated to damage his career and the Democrats. She probably heard a lot of other stories and realized they would come out if she spoke up. Biden in the story is behaving like Bob Packwood and Bill Clinton of the same era and I'm sure there were others. So she held back in 1993. Now she speaks up. Why? She isn't an idealistic young woman, any more but she knows such women still keep growing up and still keep coming to Washington (and Hollywood) and are still being assaulted in ugly, brutal ways. What Biden is alleged to have done was not sex or sex that didn't work. It was mean and ugly and a lot like Clinton and Packwood of the same era. I'm sick of reading this vile stuff and I quite understand that someone else might be sick of remembering and sick of hearing that Biden hadn't changed and sick of watching him talk about how he supports feminism and sick of watching women struggle to be his VP and sick of watching them cover for him - as she did once. And then she thinks (or is told), Biden isn't a good candidate for the Democrats anyhow. Biden leaving because the Dems are good feminists is better than Biden staying and wearing down from the stresses of the campaign into a shaky, bewildered, pathetic man trying to debate Donald John Trump who is accustomed to mincing up young fake-reporters as a pre-lunch snack. So she makes her move.
Explain how a raped vagina is worse than a damaged knee. The latter leaves you with a painful limp and corrective surgery. The former is people getting weepy.
Wow. Just wow.
@rhardin and a few others are on a different astroplane!
We are gauging this alleged grope in the context of the political season. Obviously, Biden won't be arrested or go to jail, just as Kavanaugh or Thomas or Al Franken wasn't arrested or sent to jail.
(Although Ms. Reade felt strongly enough about it to recently file a DC Police Report. Let's see it!)
This is pure politics. If enough people believe Reade, and believe Biden did it, then he's toast. A slight majority did not believe Anita Hill, so Thomas survived. Ditto Kavanaugh.
Juanita Broaddrick never got a fair hearing, until 2016, when she helped nail Hillary.
So, Yes, Ms. Reade could be lying, but why? What does she have to gain 27 years after the fact? Why would she insert herself into the 2020 presidential campaign? She's not a Republican, seeking to sink an ideological opponent. Is she a diehard Bernie gal? Let's hear her story - -not on a podcast, but on national tv.
We've heard from Slow Joe, who mumbled through it, and denied it, but to many folks it didn't seem too convincing. Especially his babbling about the "records" of his former Senate office. His track record is not good. Videos show him going full creepy-touchy, with women and young girls. 7 other women have said he gets handsy-pantsy -- not me saying it, but the Huffington Post.
Let's get Ms. Reade on 60 Minutes with Lara Logan, hear her story, who she told about it, why she didn't report it to the police way back when, evaluate it, and compare it to Slow Joe's story.
This is simple. Hear both sides, as my grandma used to say......
If there's no contemporaneous police report, then it didn't happen.
Normally I appreciate your comments. This one is shit.
Not sure I agree that it is shit. I think it is more a glossing over of the real question. We cannot, at this point, know whether it happened or not, but if she filed a contemporaneous report and he denied it, and there were no witnesses, we still cannot know whether it happened or not. The real question is, what do we do in the situation where we necessarily do not and cannot know what actually happened? Two corollaries to this - do we threat the criminal aspects differently than the non-criminal (i.e., beyond a reasonable doubt for a conviction but less proof required to change our minds about voting for the guy), and do we apply the same standard to differently-situated people (e.g., D perp v. R perp, status of the accuser, etc.)?
Doc Mike is very likely right. I really appreciate you keeping my hopes of a Biden collapse low.
The Democrats are like the people who bought the Edsel.
The editorial is notable for its shamelessness. The DNC should be in charge of investigating Democrats, because they were in charge of investigating Republicans!
Ask your grandmother, mother, sister, wife daughter what the difference is.
Go spend some time in a FYITA prison. Then ask the question again.
The democrat party, the media, and our corrupt FBI top brass are a collective shit show.
From Pelosi, who is a walking talking shit show on her own, to Hillary, who is giddy and delighted about all the deaths! on down to the hiveminders who follow Maddow like a cult.
Explain how a raped vagina is worse than a damaged knee. The latter leaves you with a painful limp and corrective surgery. The former is people getting weepy.
My late wife was Filipina-American. One of the most enlightening moments of my life goes like this. Early in my marriage, I was (gasp?) trying to convert her into a good feminist. I tried by explaining to her the feminist horror of the "comfort women" enslaved by the Japanese during WWII. She got more and more pissed as I continued, for reasons I couldn't quite understand. Finally, she screamed at me:
"What in the fuck do you think happened to Filipino men?"
I'd never thought of that before that moment.
@rhhardin - there are no psychosexual aspects to a damaged knee. A raped woman who experienced sexual pleasure during the assault needs a bit more than arthroscopy and steroids to get over it. I have always figured you as somewhere on the Asperger’s spectrum - am I right?
Tbh, the most convincing evidence so far has been Biden's behavior. He seems to be hiding something, to me at least.
tim maguire said...
iowan2 said...
"Why is this so hard?
The woman has no credibility. Its been too long"
You can argue all you want that your standards make the most sense, but far more important than them making the most sense is that they be applied evenly, without fear or favour. So, sorry, but your argument does not carry.
This is pure 100% politics. There is no over arching societal mechanization involved. Raw, take no prisoners, kill them all politics.
That's what pisses me off about this specific event. Even with the President showing Republicans the way, they are too stupid to see the right way to address the politics of this event.
Republicans can get in lock step, and with exactly the same emotion, energy, and persistence they displayed During the Kavanaugh Star Chamber Theater, defend Joe Biden, Force the Democrats to reflexively oppose what ever the Republicans are doing, or join their enemy in putting a stake in the heart of this vampire, called "me too". This is a win/win for Republicans. Which is why they are blind to the opportunity.
Terra Reade has no credibilty. The calendar tells me so.
"Biden needs to withdraw."
Actually, he shouldn't have run, for reasons unrelated to Tara.
What does it say about a party and its voters that they prefer this man, a senile bloviating repeat plagiarist of no accomplishment?
I'm with rhardin. Much (not all) of the trauma and angst around rape is a product of culture.
We can't live in a world where decades old unreported allegations/facts can destroy careers. The common law came to this conclusion centuries ago.
My late wife won the battle over feminism. She converted me.
She was amazed and infuriated by the manipulative Marxist feminist tactics of which Althouse is a master, which is using fabricated oppression and drama queen tactics to con men into rescuing the damsel in distress.
Althouse keeps harping on the oppression and subordination of women.
She was born in one of the wealthiest suburbs in the U.S. and has been rich and absolutely secure her entire life. She richer and more powerful than 99.9% of the people who've ever walked this earth, and she's still busy selling you that Marxist feminist sob story.
Successfully, too, I might add. From her point of view, why not?
Professor, did you ask for Trump to withdraw in the face of the allegations against him?
DNC investigation of Biden:
"We searched real hard and didn't find anything. Case Closed!":)
“ Professor, did you ask for Trump to withdraw in the face of the allegations against him?”
She did. She did so the very day the pussy tape came out.
I know. The Mueller Team is unemployed and they could pretend to investigate as good as any DNC hoax team you could appoint. They will even bring their own witnesses to say whatever Obama and Soros want propagandized.
"Was that the gigabytes era or the paper-in-boxes era?"
Squarely in the paper-in-boxes era. There are good-sized law firms in Wilmington who could look through 2000 boxes by Memorial Day, if all they're doing is looking for relevant documents, and not cataloging everything. The cost would be a drop in the bucket compared to what's not being spent on the campaign right now. The University's closed, they could set up tables on the basketball court or something to maintain distancing.
The Democrats are in a pickle here. If they force Biden out now, then Sanders is sitting there waiting to restart his campaign, and the cancelled primaries are still out there waiting to be rescheduled before the convention in August. Buyer's remorse is starting to set in.
The theme for the last two or three days has been, “Biden’s got to go. The question is how do they take him out?” It’s a god call. Maybe it won’t me a health thing. Maybe this is it. But, wow....taking him out in flames of shame. I didn’t expect....
the 1980's bed bounce story - coupled with all the BS about Kavanaugh's rape parties - the parties where the young liar swetnic was so horrified, she only returned to those rape parties 10 more times! she was also in college. What kind of college age loser attends high school rape parties when you're in college? Major Diane Feinsten government-grifter kinda loser, that's how.
No record, no report, no witnesses... ... Too bad the FBI didn't have Peter STrozk to investigate. He's superman, man.
The New York Slimes is NOT credible in any way and in any area!
Hillary wants it, with zero delegates.
She is so giddy about all the Wuhan deaths.
The purpose of a panel is to ensure there is no conclusion until after the D convention. Biden can then be easily replaced w/out Bernie getting the nomination.
@YW,
The Democrats are in a pickle here. If they force Biden out now, then Sanders is sitting there waiting to restart his campaign, and the cancelled primaries are still out there waiting to be rescheduled before the convention in August. Buyer's remorse is starting to set in.
I hope it festers. Like a bad case of lead poisoning from a bullet.:)
Gusty Winds
Yes. This he has to fight. So this is not the DNC's ploy.
Notice that due to the DNC canceling primaries Biden won’t have a majority of delegates ...
"They should have a panel of a single woman, a cruelly neutral Ann Althouse."
Yeah, I thought of that, but there is no way I'm doing discovery with boxes of thousands of papers.
But I will say that if you put me in my childhood home, it's a 1.7 mile walk to the University of Delaware.
I'd feel right at home there. My father went to the University of Delaware. But you could not pay me enough to do that work, just the work, aside from the compensation I would need to accept interference with my daily blogging and my relationship with the sunrise over Lake Mendota and the savage attacks people would make on me.
This is a purely academic discussion. Trump isn't getting reelected. I realize Althouse has to produce content, and that in a two horse race you can never be absolutely certain, but at this late stage it is difficult to raise much interest in Trump's political fate.
Discussions on the fate of his soul might be of more interest.
It's interesting to see the smaller overlap between the pro-rape deplorables and the pandemic denial deplorables. It's like current events are a filter that precipitates the weak ass bitches so they float on top like turds in a wastewater treatment plant to be culled for Bonnie Prince Charlie to fertilize his organic farm.
Yeah, I thought of that, but there is no way I'm doing discovery with boxes of thousands of papers.
This points to one of the problems with conducting an investigation - regardless of how cruel or neutral the panel is, they will not be the ones sifting through reams of paper. You would have to rely on the integrity of the low-level peons who volunteered for that boring, tedious job, and how likely is it that someone volunteering for that position is apolitical?
Now that Biden and his team have called Reade a liar, they have opened themselves up to a defamation suit.
And lawsuits mean discovery. And discovery means a subpoena to the University of Delaware to preserve evidence and produce the records at issue.
You're fucking jinxing us, ARM. The DNC is in full Palestinian authority mode where they will never fail to squander an opportunity.
"there are no psychosexual aspects to a damaged knee."
There are psychological aspects to every assault, though. Is there data that indicates sexual assault - against man, woman, or child - is more traumatic than other assaults?
"put together by the D.N.C." . . . Biden needs to withdraw
The Times wants the DNC in the driver's seat concerning both whether and when Biden should withdraw. Withdrawing now would be too soon, from the DNC's point of view, in which maximizing the prospect of winning the election is the only thing that matters. A DNC-appointed investigative panel would be the classic means of putting the DNC in control of both the outcome of the investigation and the timing of the announcement.
You people can do it crowdsource an army of Davids just enlist Glenn and his loyal citizens over at instapussy
And lawsuits mean discovery. And discovery means a subpoena to the University of Delaware to preserve evidence and produce the records at issue.
And failing to preserve evidence once a subpoena has been served has been proven to protect the evidentiary record complet---wait, Hillary did what with her servers and cell phones with no recourse???
The number of "put some ice on that" people coming out from under the rocks here is astounding.
You must be new here, Mark.
Apologies for repeating GingerBeer's point with twice as many words.
This whole business of papers being “donated’ and “curated” and “sealed” deserves further scrutiny.
Are papers/records really “donated” to a nonprofit if the donor can still maintain complete control over them ?
Are papers/records (other than purely personal) that have been prepared using taxpayers resources really the property of the politician donor ?
Once delivered to the donee for “curation” what, if any, obligation does the “curator” have to timely, accurately and completely catalog the donation ?
Are the “donated” records/papers really “sealed” if the donor and/or his/her designated agents can root through as yet un-curated records ?
Who other than the donor can specify which agents can be granted access to the “sealed” records before they’ve been completely “curated ?
Can the donor choose, post-donation, to demand that selected records (and any/all copies) be returned and the donee records cleansed of any record of receipt ?
If the records are not actually “sealed” why does the donee organization describe them as such ?
If there are actual laws that grant elected politicians the rights to maintain effective control over the timely release of their taxpayer-funded records why isn’t there a plain language explanation of same in the announcement of the “donation” ?
The University is a third party, tom, not the Biden operation, and I don't see that the University would have any desire to get in the middle of this to protect Biden, much less break the law to do it.
Biden is going to withdraw from the race for obvious health reasons - probably this summer. The DNC is focus group testing how to play this scenario and who to pick as the nominee.
The Tara Reade story is less about Biden than it is about a Media that protects Democrats and smears Republicans. Don't confuse the issue of Biden's presumed guilt (with no evidence) and reporters covering it - with a blanket until it stops moving.
If Biden withdraws because of Tara Reade, we have set a very dangerous precedent.
A professional athlete and an office worker might have different opinions as to the impact of a damaged knee...Her story might be true or, maybe, it is exaggerated because of her sense of betrayal when Biden made a crude physical pass at her. I just don't think it would be fair to convict Biden on the basis of someone's memory of something that happened decades prior.....Also, sexual mores change over time. Your turn to curtsy. My turn to bow. The moves and music are different.
It's interesting to see the smaller overlap between the pro-rape deplorables and the pandemic denial deplorables.
Sometimes you're funny, Howard.
Sometimes you're just a despicable asshole.
Howard said...
The DNC is in full Palestinian authority mode
Fortunately the outcome of this particular election is not strongly reliant on anything the DNC does, although one can never discount their monumental incompetence.
The NYT can take a flying fuck at a rolling sotomayor
Can't we just ask an "expert"? That seems to work out real well on important unknowable questions. When you know that nobody can really know the truth, you ask an "expert", and that makes your skepticism magically melt away. Even better, get a whole bunch of them, then ignore the ones who don't follow the consensus, berate them, and call them nuts.
Calling for Biden to withdraw reeks of a disgruntled voter desperate for another option.
Biden is going to withdraw from the race for obvious health reasons - probably this summer.. . .If Biden withdraws because of Tara Reade, we have set a very dangerous precedent.
It is possible that Biden WOULD HAVE withdrawn for health reasons. But this Reade business throws a wrench into that. He withdraws now, even with obvious mental issues, it will be seen as a confession of guilt. Neither Biden nor the Dems want that.
The Reade accusations make it LESS likely he will withdraw and more likely that the Dems are stuck with him.
Actually ARM I have been impressed by the DNC's competence. They whipped everyone into line to block Sanders. They have stopped further primaries from assuring Biden a first ballot automatic win. They have convinced their voters that it’s the voters not the DNC in charge. This is high competence indeed.
@ William
You've got me trying to imagine the vaginal equivalent of a professional athlete with a damaged knee
I know, a panel of Justin Amash, Jim Comey & Ken Starr.
And someone should un-suspend their campaign, saying “I endorsed Joe Biden because of his position on the issues, but these deeply troubling new developments have caused me to reconsider- more in sorrow than in naked opportunism.”
All of this attention to this scandal right now is designed to make us bored with the question, so people will stop asking them by election time.
Remember the the applause Bernie got when he said: I don't give a damn about Hillary's emails.
I disagree ARM. if we get relatively lucky on the reopening and the economy starts to get chugging again and no more than 150 thousand people died by November and Biden is still the nominee Trump will very likely win. Our only hope to assure victory is the DNC to get rid of Biden otherwise they are banking on the pandemic to flare up to defcon 11. I don't think that's going to happen because the American people have shown they are capable of doing a good job preventing the spread of the disease in spite of the weak federal leadership.
That didn't work out well for Democrats then, bagoh2o. Thanks for making my point.
The point of weepy sympathy with the woman is to assert to her and everybody else that women are pure innocent victims. Nothing they do influences what happens to them. As a grammatical reflex, those who do stuff are pure evil, against their pure innocence.
The alternative is that the woman might want to take some responsibility for what happened to her. Perhaps she enjoyed it a little.
That teaches her that she's in charge.
Take your choice of narratives. Which one is really feminist.
One responsibility is contemporaneous police reports. If the poor lady is such a wimp that she can't do this, she's a victim of the female mob convention, not the men.
why should he withdraw? It's all allegations.
The left are so gross with their "Allegations were made - you're guilty!"
crap.
Shorter Howard: people would trust, on the basis of the evidence, Trump more than Biden.
Bay Area Guy said :Let's get Ms. Reade on 60 Minutes with Lara Logan, hear her story, who she told about it, why she didn't report it to the police way back when, evaluate it, and compare it to Slow Joe's story.
This is simple. Hear both sides, as my grandma used to say...…
Lara Logan is at Fox Nation now. CBS has Catherine Herridge (from Fox News) one of the best investigative reporters out there. Maybe SHE could do the interview on 60 minutes!!
Two Cravath associates could do this in less than a week. Start with the boxes marked 1993. After that, find the papers on Anita Hill. Any box marked VP or Ukraine. Finally, all the boxes in all the years in which others have accused him of sexual harassment. Once I worked as an associate on a massive anti-trust case. I've done this.
Our only hope to assure victory is the DNC to get rid of Biden...
In 2016, the Dems rigged their primaries for Hillary.
In 2020, the Dems appear poised to simply toss out their primary results and nominate a candidate by acclaim.
Why do the Dems even bother with elections?
As Howard has so eloquently explained, we are better off just letting our experts in military and intel run things, even if that involves staging a coup against an elected president, which is what the Dems have been doing with the cooperation of the FBI and intel for the past 3-1/2 years. Yes, Howard, I know what side you're on.
In the great new world envisioned by Dems all political offices will be filled by appointment by their experts.
Fuck. I think Mark is right. His theory dovetails well into the recent endorsements by Obama and Hillary. The cake is baked. this also goes hand-in-hand with what doc Mike said about all the documentation being destroyed already.
Fuck
"She was born in one of the wealthiest suburbs in the U.S...."
Funny to read that after posting a Google maps link to the address where I grew up. I encourage readers to click on it and make a judgment about the class level of that suburb. (It was great being a kid there in the 1950s, of course.)
This is a purely academic discussion. Trump isn't getting reelected.
Oh OK, ARM has spoken. We can all go home now.
Ken B. Yes. Biden is Hillary 2.0
" I encourage readers to click on it and make a judgment about the class level of that suburb."
Use the street view.
Ken B said...
I have been impressed by the DNC's competence.
Got to disagree here. The party has managed to make Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden the face of the party at a time when our nation faces extraordinary problems that would be a challenge for the most competent and dynamic leadership. It won't matter much for the election, which will only be about Trump, but it is a dismal, visionless team to lead us out this mess.
Beijing Boy: "This is a purely academic discussion. Trump isn't getting reelected."
This is certainly the official position and passionately desired result sought by ARM's Beloved and Heroic Peoples Republic of China ChiComs.
Unfortunately for ARM and his Beijing masters, voter enthusiasm for Trump dwarfs voter enthusiasm for Gropey McFingerson, Trumps approval is up 6% in the last week according to Gallup, newest polls show up to 25% of Bernie voters say they absolutely will not vote for Biden and now, like the cherry on the top, all 5 "5 Eyes" western intel agencies have put together a report which demonstrates how ARM's beloved ChiComs deceived the entire world which resulted in tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths globally.....
....all the while crackhead Hunter remains on the board and in the pay of the ChiComs.
You know, on one level I feel bad for ARM.
I mean, there he's been for months dutifully pushing every Beijing talking point and now, all of a sudden, all his ChiCom lies are collapsing around him.
On the other hand, its also fun to point and laugh at him.
Is that wrong?
ARM
They are dismal and visionless. I think that gives the Democrats an undeservedly flattering face. I worry they are anything but visionless.
If this is an effort by the DNC to get Joe to step aside (or if they use it for that purpose) it will have been en extremely quick turn around between the “everyone get behind Joe” orders (right after Super Tuesday) and the “everyone dump Joe ostensibly to save our cred with women” (Tara Reade).
And the truth will be that they simply realized how frickin demented he was (and I mean real dementia not evil). They don’t live up to their own rules.
Sad...
The median household income in Wayne, NJ is $110,000.
The median price of a house in Wayne, NJ is $460,000.
By the standards of the rest of the world today, Althouse grew up in luxury and wealth.
By historical standards, Althouse grew up in luxury and wealth only royalty could dream of.
The Reade accusations make it LESS likely he will withdraw and more likely that the Dems are stuck with him.
Hillary is behind the Reade accusations. And she's only forcing Biden to withdraw and be humiliated because of their long-standing friendship.
Anyone else would simply commit suicide.
Drago's desperate mental state is a good index for the likelihood of a Trump electoral victory.
Ken B: "They have convinced their voters that it’s the voters not the DNC in charge. This is high competence indeed."
Its not "competence".
Its simply that the "shepherds" understand their sheep very very well.
“ Drago's desperate mental state is a good index for the likelihood of a Trump electoral victory.”
Never, ever, EVER volunteer on a suicide prevention hotline.
"That didn't work out well for Democrats then, bagoh2o. Thanks for making my point."
Hillary's crimes were much more serious, and were also well proven, yet she still won the popular vote. The main defense offered was the boredom inoculation: "This is old news", which is really all you got when everyone knows you did it.
ARM: "Drago's desperate mental state is a good index for the likelihood of a Trump electoral victory."
Note to self: Beijing-driven propagandists believe my mental state drives Gallup poll results and crackhead Hunter Board status.
Interesting.
women are pure innocent victims
And here comes the despicable "She asked for it" tactic.
1. It's too late for the New York Times to pretend it gives a darn about truth. If it did, it would have treated Ted Kennedy, Clarence Thomas and Brett Kavanaugh differently.
2. The paper is pretending to be serious this time because it wants to help its preferred party replace a weak candidate with someone who can beat Donald Trump. It cares more about discrediting Trump than getting justice for any woman.
3. Let's remember that #metoo only came into being after the 2016 election. The point was to discredit Donald Trump. The collateral damage, to Democrats, had nothing to do with concerns for women's issues, which were secondary. (See "2.")
4. "I know women/girls who were sexually assaulted and didn't report it to the police. It happened. Going to the police over such a thing is a big huge deal." Sorry, no. If you've been sexually assaulted and you aren't white hot with rage, you're part of the problem. The bigger problem is getting the police to take these matters seriously.
Memo to Joe re Campaign Trail Bullet Points
1. Don't grab women by the pussy.
2. Don't sniff women's hair.
3. Observe personal space of women. If they come in for the hug first, then accept.
4. Under 4, release grasp after 2 Mississippis.
5. Under 4, same is true from behind. Observe rear personal space too.
6. Don't swim nude in hotel pool.
7. CornPop is no longer with us. Get him out of your mind.
8. Send birthday card to Hunter's new baby with Arkansas stripper. Enclose $5 dollar bill.
9. If coughing, use elbow to trap germs.
10. Wear face mask in public, demand that Trump wear face mask.
I refer back to my original posts.
You see, men, what Althouse has got you doing?
She's got you bogged down in the great Damsel in Distress gambit, accusing one another of wanting to rape and abuse women.
It's an incredibly effective Marxist feminist tactic. Feminists have been using this gambit against you my entire life.
I'm going to assume that every man on this board loves the women in his life and wants only the best for them. I have no doubt I'm right.
Althouse is a shrewd tactician.
Mark: "And here comes the despicable "She asked for it" tactic."
Left Bank already trotted that one out yesterday.....but it was probably my mental state which drove Left Bank to do that....according to ARM.
On the plus side, I am now exploring ways to utilize my new found power to make John Elway acquire a new Left Tackle after 4 years of agony at that position.
Some of the Weinstein's victims were traumatized by the experience. Others viewed it as a career opportunity. It's not just what you do. It's who you do it to. Biden apparently did something to Tara Reade that left her her extremely pissed off. Whatever he did, it was not a smooth move.....My sympathies in this case lie with Tara Reid, the actress. She is being subjected to a great deal of Twitter abuse. I just hope this regrettable misunderstanding does not damage her career. Women throughout the world should have a Spartacus moment and stand up and say "I am not Tara Reid".
Ken B said...
I worry they are anything but visionless.
This apprehension on your part is unsupported by anything they have done over the last 40 years. Their most radical act, Obamacare, didn't even attempt to bring us into line with every other developed economy.
By the way, I assume we will never have to ever hear again how we have the best healthcare system in the world. Trump's presidency has been illuminative regarding several canards like this, including that the Tea Party was about Federal deficits, or that the Christian Right was about morality, or which party is the party of death.
Why don't we start with re-uploading the video of Tara's mother calling in to CNN that has been vanished?
ST: "You see, men, what Althouse has got you doing?"
No no no.
According to ARM its my mental state driving Althouses action.
I must say I do find this newly articulated Drago Causes Action At A Distance fascinating.
Sort of like little political decision and action gravitons that are radiated out from my mental state.
Of course, I shouldnt put too much stock in this happy theory because its ARM's idea...and literally just days ago ARM was STILL arguing the world had no idea where this virus originated.
ARM was literally making that argument.
Coincidentally and unexpectedly, that is precisely the position of the ChiComs.
By the way, I assume we will never have to ever hear again how we have the best healthcare system in the world.
I was born in poverty, and in my adult life I've ascended to upper middle class status.
I've always received top notch medical care, even in the years of poverty in rural Illinois. I've never had any problem gaining access to medical care.
So, yes, I have always been very happy with the level of care in U.S.
I've undergone surgery at Albany Medical Center. Top notch facility that attracts the best graduates of medical schools from all over the world, and that's in a town where nobody wants to live.
I fully suspect that ARM's next talking point will be that my mental state today caused Biden's actions in the 90's....
....which will represent a collossal modification to the current ARM articulated Drago Causes Action At A Distance theory by adding the capability of violating Space-Time constraints.
All in all a heady time for me I think.
Exactly, Bagoh/10:06. Hillary is still a criminal who used an illegal private server to run "her" state department in secret - and it just so happens she used it to enrich Clinton Family Foundation coffers. and it's just a happy coincidence that e-mails and hard-drives were permanently destroyed.
But that's all OLD NEWS. so - her-> criminality is excused by the hack press and her hivemind.
Howie? Ask your keepers to re-up your Thorazine, no meltdowns allowed on Saturday.
Bay area guy-
1. Don't grab women by the pussy.
There's saying it, and doing it. Party affiliation also matters.
By the way, I've ascended into Althouse's economic status in my adult life. I've lived for the past 30 years at the income and domestic wealth level she's lived at her entire life.
Compared to the poverty I endured as a child, this standard of living is outrageous wealth.
When my wife was still alive and we had two big income, I could buy anything I wanted... cash... except for the most outrageous toys.
BBH: "Exactly, Bagoh/10:06. Hillary is still a criminal who used an illegal private server to run "her" state department in secret - and it just so happens she used it to enrich Clinton Family Foundation coffers. and it's just a happy coincidence that e-mails and hard-drives were permanently destroyed."
Apparently, to this very day, the FBI still has not reviewed all her emails.
The FBI was very busy with....uh...other matters..for the last 5 years.
I am also glad ARM mentioned the Tea Party groups as well since they were also spied upon and targeted by obama and crew....during Bidens time in the Administration.
He should certainly be asked about that as well.....(yes yes yes, AFTER the requisite 23 days of prep time minimum)
I should have added: or that the RNC has any faith whatsoever in the free market - tariffs and bailouts for everyone.
Nobody grabs women by the pussy. The area is too soft to give any tactile definition, as boys find out in high school. Trump knows this and probably got the expression by aiming at grab them by the tits and at the last minute stealing another base to make it more emphatic.
Withdraw in favor of whom? Biden was always the not-(Sanders, Warren, Harris, etc.) candidate. It will have to be Somebody's Wife.
I should have added: or that the RNC has any faith whatsoever in the free market - tariffs and bailouts for everyone.
Well, yeah, that's not on anybody's agenda any more.
The vast majority of medical care we receive during our lives is from our GP.
You don't have to be a genius to be a GP.
Our friend ARM predicts that Biden will beat Trump this Fall. Fair enough.
You do predict that Biden will be the Dem nominee, right?
Outta curiosity, what's your confidence level for this prediction?
I shant think it can be very high, given all the uncertainties swirling about.
"My sympathies in this case lie with Tara Reid, the actress."
Mine lie with Donna Reed.
I’m a regular reader and a sometimes commentator here. Not one of the regulars but I know the regulars (and have seen quite a few come and go). Yeah. There’s bit a pathology in some of the comments from time to time. But I have to say that Rhardin’s comments about rape are the most “What the f@%k!!!” In quite some time.
I want to say something powerful that counters his statement but I believe his words speak for themselves.
Bay Area Guy said...
Our friend ARM predicts that Biden will beat Trump this Fall.
Actually predicting that Trump will lose. I think he could lose to a turnip at this point.
Nobody grabs women by the pussy.
It's like catching a bird by putting salt its tail.
Can we please leave Mr. Biden alone?
He is a Republican's dream opponent. Let it be!
Worse than a turnip?
"That's a demand that Democrats confess to having wronged Brett Kavanaugh." That's exactly the point. What the Dem's put the country through with the accusations against Kavanaugh were insane on an unbelievably massive scale. And all the rest of the nonsense they've put the country through with Russiagate, was/is outrageous. So the idea that now we're all supposed to believe or act like Tara Reade's accusations don't matter is shocking. Maybe it will shock some sense into the Democrats, although I don't see that happening.
bagoh20 said..
Can't we just ask an "expert"? That seems to work out real well on important unknowable questions. When you know that nobody can really know the truth, you ask an "expert", and that makes your skepticism magically melt away. Even better, get a whole bunch of them, then ignore the ones who don't follow the consensus, berate them, and call them nuts.
Sorry, this thread is about the Biden accusation not climate change. Please stay on topic.
Ken B said...
“ Professor, did you ask for Trump to withdraw in the face of the allegations against him?”
She did. She did so the very day the pussy tape came out.
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I think that is false. Produce the link, or withdraw your comment.
ARM is just doing what he customarily does here: attempt to start a bandwagon rolling by declaring what he hopes will happen as if it were inevitable.
They're going to put a mask on Joe, and then they can do voice-overs for the camera.
This is not me calling for Biden to withdraw: " To state the problem is to see the real solution. This "unbiased, apolitical panel" — if anything like it could be convened — cannot get a creditable search done within a satisfying time line. Therefore: Biden needs to withdraw."
That's me analyzing what other people must be thinking. I'm an observer, and I'm trying to predict what might come next or infer what not being said.
I don't call on people to withdraw or anything like that.
I didn't call on Trump to withdraw. If you're reading something I said to mean that, you're talking about the inside of your own head.
Some people thought I called on Kavanaugh to withdraw after I heard the Blasey Ford testimony. That was a misreading of me. I was trying to imagine what he could do if and only if he knew he was guilty.
Maybe I have somewhere in this archive called on somebody to withdraw or resign. It's hard to think of what that would have been.
The lady with the bumper stickers at the dog park.....but I repeat myself......doesn't have a Biden bumper sticker yet.
In fact, no one does.
@ARM sez:
"Actually predicting that Trump will lose. I think he could lose to a turnip at this point"
Yeah, but that's bit dodgy for a reasonable fella. A turnip isn't running in the Fall, it will be Joe Biden, right?
And, again, how confident are in this prediction?
For example, I think Trump will prevail this Nov, but I am not too confident. I think it's slightly more than 50-50.
This is not me calling for Biden to withdraw:
Then you'd better clarify it in your post, before the Biden minions see it.
It would be very dignified of Biden at some point in the future to have a big speech about Mild Cognitive Impairment, how it affects lives, and how he and those around him have noticed signs of it in him. Withdraw, ask for support of the new nominee, and vow to do all he can to find cures and treatments for dementia and Alzheimers.
But withdrawing for a sex abuse allegation he denies and can't be proven is a bad road, and makes the Democrats look bad. Be honest about his health situation and move forward.
ARM is predicting the Presidential race outcone when he is still very unclear on where the ChiCom/WHO Wuhan Lab Bat Flu came from.
Here's a hint ARM: it came from China-Wuhan region-laboratory.
Is that still too vague for you?
Meanwhile, is it time to dredge up the ARM 2016 Trump Has No Path To 270 posts yet?
Too soon?
Too brutal?
How about the ARM's Trump Wont Finish His Term posts?
Too much?
Okay. Ill let it rest for a bit.
My sympathies are with the Lakers, not Willis Reed.
Good news dems!
"You can't make this stuff up. According to the Atlantic, Biden is counting on "the media," particularly the NYT, to "do the work of exonerating him." https://t.co/dE2pEr848J https://t.co/7rrsN5UqQa
Hooray for our brave and courageous and totally objective Fire-fighter-like media!
Everybody who thinks about it for a minute knows the panel won't be "unbiased and apolitical," but the party and the media will say that anyway and enough people will take their word for it that it won't matter. It's like Liz Warren being "cleared" by the Boston Globe. Everybody knows they weren't going to come to any other verdict, but Liz can say it and people who are voting for her anyway take it at face value. Another comparison may be to the Mueller investigation: an "unbiased" figurehead who just signs off on what staffers with their own agenda want.
Editorialists always live in a dream world. In this case, they think the days of "The Wise Men" and "The Best and the Brightest" are still around. If you were a banker or corporation lawyer who didn't automatically froth at the mouth when FDR was mentioned, you could have a job in Washington as an unbiased expert and Wise Man. Today people are too partisan and too polarized, and also too cynical or skeptical about just how unbiased members of the Establishment really are to fall for that.
Crazy Jane-
" 4. "I know women/girls who were sexually assaulted and didn't report it to the police. It happened. Going to the police over such a thing is a big huge deal." Sorry, no. If you've been sexually assaulted and you aren't white hot with rage, you're part of the problem. The bigger problem is getting the police to take these matters seriously."
Surely you know that being white hot with rage does not equal going to the police. Furthermore, I'm sure you can see what you describe as the bigger problem might be a cause for people not going to the police in the first place.
Let's all be honest here: a sitting US Senator - your boss!! who you like!- is often a little handsy and one day slips his fingers in your skirt. You push him off, you get away safely. You are a young political newby. He's a Senator. Are you 100% sure you'd go to the police with that?
There is not a single document. Rather Tara Reade by name and action are intertwined through a lengthy period of time, years and interacted with a substantial number of Biden staff and associates.
This means that Reade by name appears in hundreds of documents by tens of document authors and in person on audio and video files. This high quantity of documentation will be almost impossible to destroy without leaving huge apparent gaps.
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