Althouse: "26% of Democrats, including 40% of those under the age of 45, said the party should select a different nominee."

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"26% of Democrats, including 40% of those under the age of 45, said the party should select a different nominee."

"The party’s younger voters and women are less likely to view Biden’s denial as credible than older or male Democrats. 38% of all voters say elected officials should resign when facing credible accusations of sexual misconduct, down 18 points since late 2017."

The Morning Consult reports on its new poll.

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stephen cooper म्हणाले...: I feel so sorry for the guy, he was a good guy when he was young, before he got silly with power.

I mean just look at the videos.; ५/५/२०, ७:२३ PM
Original Mike म्हणाले...: "26% of Democrats, including 40% of those under the age of 45, said the party should select a different nominee."

Shocker. Biden didn't receive 100% of votes during the primary.; ५/५/२०, ७:२४ PM
Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...: The Dems didn’t exactly admit to rigging the primaries in the 2016 election, although they argued in court that they had the right to rig them. The court found for the Dem’s argument.

It appears that the 2020 Dem primary results are likely to be tossed out.

What does this say about the Democratic Party? Why do they bother with primary elections?; ५/५/२०, ७:२५ PM
Drago म्हणाले...: From Ace of Spades HQ:

"Founder of The Hill and Politico, and Former NYT Washington Bureau Employee: I Don't Want Any Investigation Into Biden Because Proof That He's a Sexual Predator Could Damage His Chances Against Trump, Which Is The Only Thing That Matters"
—Ace

Our Media: "Unbiased seekers of truth."--Ace; ५/५/२०, ७:२५ PM
Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...: "26% of Democrats, including 40% of those under the age of 45, said the party should select a different nominee."

Drat - is Drago subverting the Dem polling data again?

(predicted Biden replaced by Michele long time ago); ५/५/२०, ७:२६ PM
Original Mike म्हणाले...: "What does this say about the Democratic Party? Why do they bother with primary elections?"

Damn good question. I've never thought much of the concept of primary elections. IMO, the party should choose their candidate. But they should do so honestly.; ५/५/२०, ७:२९ PM
Achilles म्हणाले...: The Democratic Party is not a democratic party.; ५/५/२०, ७:३१ PM
Achilles म्हणाले...: O Mike beat me to it.; ५/५/२०, ७:३२ PM
stevew म्हणाले...: He, Biden, is weathering the storm, virtually hove to as it passes him by. He chose Todd as an advisor to let them all know he's not going out without a fight.; ५/५/२०, ७:३७ PM
h म्हणाले...: Can we say, after months of running: Klobachar, Warren, Bernie, Kamala, governors, Mayor Pete, other Senators and congress people --- After all this there is no one to replace BIden except Hillary? Or Michelle? Really?????

Also, a mere 3.5 years ago, all Democrats agreed that the best person to be President (should Hillary be elected and then die) was (before I write it, can you remember??) ...........Tim Kaine. I'm amazed that not one single word has been advanced about this obvious candidate as a replacement for Biden. Are democrats so wound up with families that they cannot look outside Clinton/Obama? (Then why not Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore ? They all have families.); ५/५/२०, ७:३८ PM
Leland म्हणाले...: Replace Biden then Trump can talk about who the nominee was selected and not elected.; ५/५/२०, ७:५६ PM
PM म्हणाले...: Nancy opens her freezer.
Joe's head is in there.
She grabs the Creamy Dreamy Vanilla.
"I'm havin' Gavin."; ५/५/२०, ७:५७ PM
mccullough म्हणाले...: The Blacks like Joe.; ५/५/२०, ७:५९ PM
gilbar म्हणाले...: Seems like, the moral is:
Don't paint yourself in a corner with stupid statements, like; "MY VP canidate WILL BE A WOMAN!"

Now, he's Totally F8cked.
In a michigan poll, Biden was Narrowly beating Trump...
UNLESS he was paired with Gretchen, in which case, it was within the margin of error
hmmm, if you HURT prospects, in YOUR OWN STATE; kinda defeats the purpose, huh?

Harris? California?
Stacy Abrams? The True governor of Georgia?
who's left?
Fauxcahontas? and Massachusetts ?

Looks like it will HAVE TO BE amy krowbar, and her comb
yuk!; ५/५/२०, ७:५९ PM
Mark म्हणाले...: The under-50 group has NEVER been a fan of Joe Biden, either because he is a dinosaur or because he is creepy and fake and a blowhard or because he is now demented.; ५/५/२०, ८:०९ PM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent म्हणाले...: "The Blacks like Joe."

Hard to overstate the importance of this in Democrat electoral strategy. And the box it puts the Democrats in. One thing is certain if they stick with Biden. It isn't going to get any easier. The thing about the insensate attacks on Trump is that it leaves his opponent nowhere to go but down.; ५/५/२०, ८:११ PM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent म्हणाले...: And the VP pick is irrelevant. You can always float the theory that the VP is the real nominee but the LIVs aren't going to understand it.; ५/५/२०, ८:१६ PM
n.n म्हणाले...: Biden is not a viable candidate. Either he loses his religion, self-aborts his campaign, or someone will cancel the Democrat "burden".; ५/५/२०, ८:१६ PM
Drago म्हणाले...: BAG: "(predicted Biden replaced by Michele long time ago)"

Indeed I did. Quite some time ago.

And now this: "New committee to 'Draft Michelle Obama' urges Biden to pick her as VP"

Michelle as the VP pick.....and Biden never makes it out of the Convention in late August.

Leaving a mere 2 months for Michelle to proclaim Trump is too horrible to even bother sharing a stage with and so debates are out with the media blowing wind into her sails the entire way.; ५/५/२०, ८:१८ PM
William म्हणाले...: "38% of all voters say elected officials should resign when facing credible accusations of sexual misconduct." Does anyone else have trouble with that. One reason a woman may bring a credible accusation of sexual misconduct is, of course, because the official behaved badly,but I can think of other reasons, both political and personal that might inspire her ire or malice. The good news is that the number if down 18% since the last poll. I guess Dems aren't such true and fervent believers in "believe all women"....I don't think Joe Biden deserves to have his career and reputation trashed based on this allegation which can neither be proven nor denied. And that goes double for Kavanaugh....I think this is the opinion of many Trump supporters who, at the very least, are not as hypocritical as Biden voters.; ५/५/२०, ८:३६ PM
Bob Loblaw म्हणाले...: 26% isn't enough to deny him the nomination, but it's enough to lose the Democrats the general election if a substantial percentage of those voters sit it out.; ५/५/२०, ८:३९ PM
Drago म्हणाले...: Bob Loblaw: "26% isn't enough to deny him the nomination, but it's enough to lose the Democrats the general election if a substantial percentage of those voters sit it out."

Multiple polls over an extended period of time show a fairly consistent 25% of Bernie bros are committed to vote for Trump or other 3rd party candidate or sit out the election if Biden is the nominee.; ५/५/२०, ८:४२ PM
robother म्हणाले...: Gone are the days when my heart was young and gay,
Gone are my friends from the cotton fields away,
Gone from the earth to a better land I know,
I hear their gentle voices calling “Old Black Joe.”

I’m coming, I’m coming, for my head is bending low:
I hear those gentle voices calling, “Old Black Joe.”; ५/५/२०, ८:५६ PM
Ken B म्हणाले...: William
And that is down 18%!
How at least 37 of that 38 are lying. They only mean politicians they don’t support.; ५/५/२०, ८:५७ PM
pacwest म्हणाले...: Trump is too horrible to even bother sharing a stage with and so debates are out

50/50 that's gonna happen no matter who the candidate is.; ५/५/२०, ८:५९ PM
Robert Cook म्हणाले...: They really should dispense with Biden. However, being them, they would probably nominate someone even somehow worse.; ५/५/२०, ९:०३ PM
Temujin म्हणाले...: Take your pick, kids. Hillary or Michelle?

The Dems are in a pickle. Their only hope is that the virus kicks it up a notch and Joe cannot be heard from until Nov. 4.; ५/५/२०, ९:०४ PM
Drago म्हणाले...: pacwest: "50/50 that's gonna happen no matter who the candidate is."

Correct.; ५/५/२०, ९:०४ PM
Howard म्हणाले...: No shit sherlock; ५/५/२०, ९:०८ PM
Ken B म्हणाले...: Contenders
Newsom
Inslee
Michelle
Hillary

Black Swan possibilities
Evan Bayh
Tim Kaine; ५/५/२०, ९:१७ PM
The Godfather म्हणाले...: "38% of all voters say elected officials should resign when facing credible accusations of sexual misconduct". Who determines if an accusation is "credible"? Was the Ford accusation that in high school Kavanaugh and a buddy assaulted her "credible", even though she was able to produce NO witnesses or other corroboration that she and Kavanaugh were even in the same place at the same time? How about the "rape line" accusations? Were they credible?

I guess the only answer to my question is: The Media decides whether an accusation is "credible". The media treated the accusations by Ford and others as news, so they were "credible". Until the media started reporting about the Reade accusation against Biden, most people weren't even aware that such an accusation had been made, so then it wasn't "credible", but now it's in the news so it's a "credible" accusation, isn't it? So Biden has to withdraw? With no more evidence than one woman's statement about an event she says happened decades ago?

C'mon man! That can't be our rule. Can it?; ५/५/२०, ९:३२ PM
DavidUW म्हणाले...: Doesn't matter. young people don't vote.; ५/५/२०, ९:४४ PM
Yancey Ward म्हणाले...: "38% of all voters say elected officials should resign when facing credible accusations of sexual misconduct, down 18 points since late 2017."

Hilarious! Let me fix that sentence so that it reflects the reality:

"38% of all voters say elected officials should resign when facing credible accusations of sexual misconduct, down 18 points since important Democrats began to get accused."; ५/५/२०, १०:५३ PM
Lurker21 म्हणाले...: So long as Biden is beating Trump in the polls, it will be hard to replace him. By the time Joe starts sinking in the polls it may be too late to replace him.

I used to think that if Joe were replaced the other 23 candidates in the race would demand to be the replacement, but now I think they would be running in the opposite direction. A party switching nominees late in the race is not a good sign. Nobody wanted to be George McGovern's replacement VP. They could read the writing on the wall. A party that switches its presidential nominee would have to switch its whole strategy and that's not easy to do. Swapping nominees would most likely mean picking somebody who is as clueless as Joe is.

I really doubt Michelle Obama would the nominee. She doesn't want it. Some people have to rationalize that by saying that she's just lazy, rather than that she just might have some self-knowledge and know that she's not a politician and not up to the job. Those people may be idiots, but if they get to the right conclusion, the reasoning doesn't matter so much.; ६/५/२०, १२:१० AM
AllenS म्हणाले...: I have yet to see any Biden lawn signs. Plenty of Trump lawn signs, plus Trump flags, and other advertisements for Trump on a barn and 4' x 8' pieces of plywood.

Has anyone seen any Biden signs?; ६/५/२०, १:२२ AM
Ty म्हणाले...: There are very fine people on both sides.; ६/५/२०, १:४३ AM
Quaestor म्हणाले...: 38% of all voters say elected officials should resign when facing credible accusations of sexual misconduct, down 18 points since late 2017.

Down 18%, eh?

24.2% of the 18% are government employees with six-figure pension accounts.

10.7% of the 18% are Democrats on the ballot in November.

And 65.1% are women with "handmaiden" bonnets in their handbags.; ६/५/२०, ४:३१ AM
Bob Loblaw म्हणाले...: So long as Biden is beating Trump in the polls, it will be hard to replace him.

Is Biden beating Trump in the polls? I mean, in battleground state polling. That's a serious question - I keep hearing conflicting information.; ६/५/२०, ४:५३ AM
Quaestor म्हणाले...: Re: Drago's comment: The whole thing plus the signature; ६/५/२०, ५:२३ AM
JAORE म्हणाले...: "I really doubt Michelle Obama would the nominee. She doesn't want it. Some people have to rationalize that by saying that she's just lazy, rather than that she just might have some self-knowledge and know that she's not a politician and not up to the job. Those people may be idiots, but if they get to the right conclusion, the reasoning doesn't matter so much."

Agreed. Let's look at her options:

Option one: Run for Pres. Face Trump in debates and conservative scorn, repeats of "first time... adult life... proud of America". Risk losing. Four or eight years of scrutiny, second guessing (yes, even with the fawning press) and restrictions (which, reportedly she hated). Every word you utter dissected. Have to compromise to get things done. Narrow focus of what you can do with your time.

OR

Millionaire and getting richer by the minute. Celebrity adored by everyone whose opinion you care about. Able to say anything you want without meaningful scrutiny. Freedom to come and go as you please.

Why would Ms. Obama run? For the "good of the party"? Feh.; ६/५/२०, ७:४० AM
mtrobertslaw म्हणाले...: Here is the dilemma the dems face: Uncle Joe has had a burning ambition to be president for years. He may have memory problems, but one thing he has not forgotten is the old Irish Proverb:"Don't get mad, get even". As vice president for eight years, Uncle Joe knows many things about both Obama and Hillary, things that if ever saw the light of day would destroy the political reputations of both. If the democrats drop him as their candidate, they run the serious risk that Uncle Joe will set in motion the old proverb. Whether they know it or not, they are playing political Russian roulette.; ६/५/२०, ९:२१ AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...: Biden is a the snow-job.

He didn't really win - the left are testing their cheat-to-win system before they install Hillary.; ६/५/२०, ९:४८ AM
hstad म्हणाले...: This is great news for Trump. Landslide win if he gets anywhere near to 20%+ Democrats to cross the aisle and vote for him. Especially, the positive numbers 'blacks' are exhibiting for Trump.; ६/५/२०, २:४४ PM