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Legal fees must be rising, and he's looking for a pardon!!
Just got back from voting Trump in the CA primary. Someone had to.
Rush says the dems mean to lose with Biden so that Bernie doesn't take over and drive out the party deep state apparatus. Fighting for their jobs.
I might have made a mistake in voting for Clueless Joe.
I thought that Comrade Sanders would be stronger here in Virginia.
I have no idea how this will play out but early voting should be curbed for those who aren't going to be out of town.
I've decided to NOT engage in Operation Chaos (i.e., vote for perceived candidate of the opposing party), because it tends to backfire so often. Also. I can't tell who'd be weaker in the General - Crazy Bernie or Slow Joe.
So, I'll vote for Trump and NO on any and all ballot propositions.
"Will you vote for the Democratic nominee in November no matter who it is?"
(Yes/No)
Bloomberg Voters: 78% / 18%
Sanders Voters: 83% / 15%
Biden Voters: 89% / 10%
Warren Voters: 91% / 8%
NBC exit poll.
Katie Porter is running unopposed in the Dem primary for the CA 45 Congressional seat. There is a slew of Republican challengers which hopefully will narrow so that Porter can be defeated in the fall. Porter's entire political schtick is anti-Trump. She's like the Orange County Schiff or Maxine Waters.
The vote I was trying to make was a vote for a contested convention, i.e. no one getting a national majority.
Legal fees must be rising, and he's looking for a pardon!!
Biden is the best option for the deep state. They're all looking to get their jobs back running things.
Polls closed just five minutes ago and they're calling Virginia for Biden.
Quite curious to see Warren's result here in MA. Some are happy that she will not win and so be convinced to get out of the race. They think that, magically, this will mean we don't have to listen to her harping and shrill voice any longer. I remind them that she is one of our Senators and that not being in the race might embolden her to be more visible, more harpingly shrill and annoying. Puzzled but acknowledging looks follow. Heads drop, and folks shuffle back to what they were doing. Am I the asshole?
Biden is a Democrat. Bernie is not a Democrat. Bloomberg is a ________?
I thought that Comrade Sanders would be stronger here in Virginia.
Not easy for Sanders to win a primary in a state with this many black voters-20% of the eligible voter pool altogether, and about 40-45% of the Democratic voter base. To win Virginia, Sanders has to get at least 30% of the black vote, and he didn't come close to this in South Carolina; or Sanders has to win 60%+ of the white vote.
If you voted for Biden, I think you made the right choice looking forward to November, but I know I am a minority in this opinion.
They think that, magically, this will mean we don't have to listen to her harping and shrill voice any longer.
...I mean, somebody voted for her.
Biden wins Virginia.
Biden already won VA.
I reckon the best scenario is Bernie goes into the convention with a substantial lead, but short of a majority. And then the super delegates give it to Biden!
Let Joe be Joe and it will all work out.
BAG gets it.
Mark: "I thought that Comrade Sanders would be stronger here in Virginia."
Why?
Virginia is Ground Zero for Team Establishment.
He must have an empty life outside of that radio show.
Better let him know your diagnosis, Mary. He needs your advice.
Some of the VA polls had Bernie the Red surging.
And NoVa is far left territory.
Each and every last one of the sitting Senators who voted to convict Trump deserves to go down in defeat tonight. I say that not out of politics, but rather from an ethics standpoint. I would say the very same thing about a Republican Senator voting to impeach a sitting Democratic President while trying to get his job. It's just bullshit on stilts.
Empirically, does proportional allocation of delegates in primary elections, instead of winner-take-all, make brokered conventions more or less likely — or does it depend on the distribution of centrist vs. extreme candidates?
Hot pink is not her best color, but she's still mighty fine.
The black vote and the older vote is going to get Biden the nomination, IMO.
rhhardin said... "Rush says the dems mean to lose with Biden so that Bernie doesn't take over and drive out the party deep state apparatus. Fighting for their jobs."
That sounds right. I can't figure out how all of that works, but it seems like the nominee (or his Convention delegates?), win or lose, get to appoint a lot of the party apparatus.
Sanders looks to have an actual majority in Vermont -- the first actual majority of the season, and +40 over Biden.
Looks like Biden 48 to Sanders 26 in Virginia, home of the Deep State.
Looks like only Sanders and Biden will get delegates from Virginia. Bloomberg at a disappointing third or fourth place with 11%. (Warren at 11 or 12%.)
7:22 Eastern and RCP finally got around to admitting that Sanders won Vermont.
Inga - I haven't been keeping track of your preference (or any of the other libs on Althouse). Who is your choice?
The black vote and the older vote is going to get Biden the nomination, IMO
And will the young vote stand for that malarky?
Will young progressives/Dems turnout for Joe in November, or will they "listen" to him and go vote on Election Thursday?
Will they say, "Oops, I knew there was something I was going to do"?
" I haven't been keeping track of your preference “
It’s a good thing! You would need a chiropractor today had you done so. She is like a weathervane showing you which way the winds are blowing at the DNC.
“Inga - I haven't been keeping track of your preference (or any of the other libs on Althouse). Who is your choice?”
My first choice was always Warren, but then it started looking like she wasn’t going to make it. My next choice was Bernie, but it looks like he won’t get the moderate vote. I never did prefer Biden and worry about his cognition. BUT as most Democrats say, I’ll vote for whoever gets the nomination.
On his deathbed, I think he'll be glad you are all there for him.
Tell us more of your honest observations, Mary. They are so free of bitterness, envy, and -- what is that third ingredient? Could it be self-loathing?
After all the years that black voters were trapped on the liberal plantation, have they managed to capture the Democratic Party — or is it a ruse to distract them from the fact that Trump has given them jobs?
“It’s a good thing! You would need a chiropractor today had you done so. She is like a weathervane showing you which way the winds are blowing at the DNC.”
I’m a realist and I want Trump to be defeated, as do most Democrats, so I’m willing to go with the candidate that has the best chance of winning the presidency.
Its been fun to watch Donna Brazile go Full LLR-lefty Chuck today in her defense of the DNC and democrat establishment.
Fox is reporting 50 percent in for Virginia. Wash Post is stuck at 10 percent results.
Bloomberg got a win!!
American Somoa
4 delegates
Way to go, Micro!
biden has an advantage in the south, among African americans and older voters, that's probably true about florida as a stand a lone, in states like new York, sanders would prevail, in the Midwest it's probably a toss up,
Bloomberg crushing it . . . in American Samoa.
Biden will select Warren as VP...
...and Biden will last 6 months to be placed in a dementia home in crime infested Baltimore, and so a vote for Biden is a vote for Warren.
Biden's wife will then marry Ronnie Wood and play his bongo's on tour.
lol, American samoa,
So, Inga?
The young vote?
If I am dying and have 6 months to live and go do whatever I want hopefully, like Rush, I spend it doing what I had been doing for the previous 40 or so years.
You can bribe Samoan's with just a few barrels of high fructose corn syrup.
"You'd think he might find something better to do with his remaining time than bother with the 2020 Democrat field.
He must have an empty life outside of that radio show."
Limbaugh is paid handsomely for doing, as he often says, the thing he loves. If I was him, in a job that was what I'd wish to be doing even if it didn't pay my wages, I too would likely continue it until it was no longer possible, and hopefully die at the microphone. So would just about everyone.
Your carping about him makes yours sound like the purposeless life, not his.
Limited blogger said...
Bloomberg got a win!!
American Somoa
4 delegates
Way to go, Micro!
Well shit. Looks like I was wrong. Bloomberg got some delegates today.
I didn't factor American Somoa in.
fuckall =(
So much suspense. Will Bernie hold up physically? Will Biden’s family mercifully put him out to pasture? Will either of them accumulate enough delegates? How much cash will Bloomberg burn? Who will the Dem’s surprise us with in Milwaukee? Will Milwaukee burn?
Here are the 14 states voting in the primaries today along with the delegate breakdowns from 2016. This will give you guide to how well or badly Sanders is doing vs 2016 where he lost the pledged delegate count at the end 2205 to 1846- he lost by 359 delegates, which is the metric you should pay attention to since the superdelegates don't get a 1st round vote.
..........................Sanders Clinton
Virginia....................33..........62
Vermont.....................16...........0
North Carolina..............47..........60
Massachussetts..............45..........46
Maine.......................17...........8
Tennessee...................23..........44
Alabama......................9..........44
Arkansas....................10..........22
Minnesota...................46..........31
Texas.......................75.........147
Oklahoma....................21..........17
Colorado....................41..........25
Utah........................27...........6
California.................206.........269
Total......................616.........781.
There were, of course, no third candidates for any of these states picking up delegates. This should be your benchmark for whether or not Biden will win the nomination outright on the 1st ballot.
As a first approximation, I would guess Biden needs to come out of tonight with at least a margin of 100 delegates over Sanders to have a solid chance at a first ballot victory. The flies in the ointment, of course, are the other two candidates. I think, based on the 47% return so far in Virginia, that Bloomberg won't win a delegate tonight, and Warren might only win delegates in Massachussetts. I had thought that Klobuchar might win a few in Minnesota, but I now doubt that. So, I think this race is likely already heads up, but Sanders still needs Warren to drop out after tonight- if she doesn't, and keep getting 10%, then Sanders can't win even a plurality victory- he would end up losing on the 1st ballot by at least 100 delegates, and likely more.
Less than an hour after polls closing in Virginia, AP shows 65 percent results.
Watching the returns on CNN.
The way they report on these 'data driven' events is still quite good.
It's the punditry and so much of the so-called news stories that are ruined by their biases.
If Biden wins tonight the same margin Clinton won, then it is all over- the nominee will be Biden until he dies of a stroke just before the convention.
What is Chris Matthews saying about the results over on MS-NBC?
“So, Inga?
The young vote?”
Bernie.
California is now a completely Democrat run state - so we should get the results about next Monday.
If Biden wins tonight the same margin Clinton won, then it is all over- the nominee will be Biden until he dies of a stroke just before the convention.
I KNEW that if I voted, I would screw things up.
Every. Damn. Time.
Biden has Brennan, "life long Republican" Comey, and Susan Rice on his side. They were attracted to Biden's honesty.
So many people just decided to vote for Biden in the last few days.
And it may carry him to victory!?
Joe-mentum!!
How do the geezers and young folks balance out?
If I had to make a wager, though- after tonight, Nate Silver's model will show that a brokered convention is remote possibility- Bloomberg is only getting 10% in Virginia, and I find it difficult to believe he will get 15% in more than 4-5 states, tops.
Will the young say Bernie or Screw It?
An hour after Virginia closes, Fox shows 93 percent of the results are in.
Black folks LOVE joe Biden. I think it was the cornpop story, along with Marching with MLK and getting arrested in South Africa.
If Matthews managed to stay calm about Sanders, he'd be cruising tonight.
He panicked.
About time some election involving Dems learned how to count ballots.
Inga: "I’m a realist..."
No one who swallowed whole the transparently false russia collusion hoax, hoax dossier, carter page is a russian spy hoax, Kavanaugh is a rapist hoax, Trump is laundering russian cash hoax, Trump is controlled by Putin hoax, predicted Trump would not last 3/6/9/12/18/24/36 months in office, etc etc should ever, under any circumstances, claim to be a realist.
Seriously.
"...spend it doing what I had been doing for the previous 40 or so years."
My dad had 20 credit cards when he died. Every oil company sent him one.
Extrapolate from that...
Alabama Black voters went 12% for Bernie. Ouch!
Here in Northern Virginia, for the last few weeks on TV, it has been wall-to-wall Bloomberg Show, with occasional 30 second breaks for regular programing. And for all that, he has won . . . zero delegates.
The real test will be the Midwest and West. Can Bernie crush Biden. If not, its hello Joe Biden Presidential nominee.
The only thing I am interested in about these elections is the turnout. That will take a few days.
It seems to have been down in Iowa. As if anyone could figure it out.
I just can't understand why Southern Blacks are going for a New Yawk Jewish socialist. Usually they love Yankees from New England.
Black folks LOVE joe Biden.
Joe Biden's victory speech tonight: "Come, children. Come rub my hairy legs."
"I KNEW that if I voted, I would screw things up."
Well, if you had voted for Bernie and he were the nominee, then it would have been a heart attack.
CNN saying Bloomie might get some delegates out of North Carolina. He's at 18% with 1% reporting. So too soon to call.
Yancey Ward said...
If Biden wins tonight the same margin Clinton won, then it is all over- the nominee will be Biden until he dies of a stroke just before the convention.
Biden cannot be their choice.
Bernie will lose fewer states than Biden and will do more down ballot than Biden.
If Bernie gets a plurality Bernie gets the nom. I think Bernie will get a plurality.
But I hope they put Biden in instead.
Will Bloomberg quit after tonight?
Everyone knows Clinton wants the nomination, and in a brokered convention, you can be sure she would toss her colostomy bag into the ring.
CNN saying Biden's win in Virginia proves that the state is in play for Trump this election.
You won't have to worry about turnout in California, because its going blue in November, same with VT and Mass. The Florida, midwestern and texas Turnout will be interesting.
Well, if you had voted for Bernie and he were the nominee, then it would have been a heart attack.
If I had not voted at all, they would be neck-and-neck in Virginia.
I jinxed the plan.
“No one who swallowed whole the transparently false russia collusion hoax, hoax dossier, carter page is a russian spy hoax, Kavanaugh is a rapist hoax, Trump is laundering russian cash hoax, Trump is controlled by Putin hoax, predicted Trump would not last 3/6/9/12/18/24/36 months in office, etc etc should ever, under any circumstances, claim to be a realist.
Seriously.”
Says the doofus who believes Ukraine has Clinton’s server. Says the doofus who says Clinton had Seth Rich murdered. Says the doofus who said the pizza parlor in DC had a pedophile ring run out of the basement... I could go on. Sorry I don’t give your style of realism much credence.
An hour ten minutes - 99 percent results in Virginia.
That's some counting.
Of course, in November, they will suddenly find several boxes of uncounted ballots in various Fairfax precincts to suddenly change all the numbers.
Achilles,
Sanders will have to outperform greatly his returns in the midwest and mid-Atlantic states versus 2016. Now, if Warren drops out, he has a chance to do so- Biden has already shown that he doesn't connect with midwesterners in Iowa. Clinton beat Sanders in Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. If he comes out of tonight down by 100 delegates, Sanders will need to reverse all of those losses.
I don't think a brokered convention is going to happen unless the majority pledged delegate leader is murd.......dies of natural causes. Either Sanders or Biden will win a majority- I firmly believe that now just based on the early returns tonight.
I was just watching my idea of internet porn, e.g., MasterChef Australia, and there was a Bloomberg ad between episodes!! Grrr. Please get that arrogant runt off the fucking stage...
So if Bernie really cleans up in California, such that he ends up with most of the popular vote in all the Super Tuesday states, does that mean that he should get all the delegates everywhere??
Mark,
This is a primary- there are about 1/2 the number of the ballots to actually count as there were in the 2016 general election.
Texas appears to have started posting some early voting totals. Sanders doing ok on that, but it is the voting that took place today that matters.
Dem logic says that Bernie should get all the delegates if his win in California gives him the most votes overall in all the states combined.
That's what they've been saying about Hillary.
Inga - thanks for responding to my earlier question. I have a good friend who is still all in for Warren - our primary is next week, but she voted early. No changing her vote now.
Inga: "Says the doofus who believes Ukraine has Clinton’s server. Says the doofus who says Clinton had Seth Rich murdered. Says the doofus who said the pizza parlor in DC had a pedophile ring run out of the basement... I could go on. Sorry I don’t give your style of realism much credence."
LOL
Just one link with any of that and you win tonight!
Good luck!
BTW, the above is Inga's way of surrendering.
Well, that and maniacal cut and pastin'!
Looks like Biden outperformed Clinton in Virginia- he will end up with a higher margin over Sanders in that state than Clinton did- not a huge number, but 3-4 delegates more of a margin, at least. Warren hurt Sanders in the state more than Bloomberg hurt Biden, is my guess.
Aye, the haggis is in the fire for sure.
Name that episode.
Stick a fork in Warren.
Tits
“Inga - thanks for responding to my earlier question. I have a good friend who is still all in for Warren - our primary is next week, but she voted early. No changing her vote now.”
Yea, that’s a problem with early voting. I’m waiting until my state’s Primary, April 7th.
Looks like the left found their new crook. Same as the old crook. Move over Hillary.
Mark,
I know it was Scott that said it, but don't remember the episode any longer.
Titus: "Stick a fork in Warren."
Nope.
The dem establishment says she must stay in all the way to help slay the Sanders Socialist Monster so the dems can return to implementing socialism more stealthily.
So, the only "fork" is Li'l Tomahawk's fork tongue now that she's happily taking millions of donations into her brand spanking new Super Pac from democrat benefactors who want her to siphon off Bernie votes.
Really, what kind of idjit (ijit?) would vote for Bloomberg?
Was it one of the episodes when he was in command?
@Inga-
"Says the doofus who said the pizza parlor in DC had a pedophile ring run out of the basement..."
Wait... did any of the Trump-supporters here actually believe Pizzagate? Do you have a link for that?
Is it the one where Kirk orders the Enterprise to destroy the planet that is fighting a war by simulation?
Tulsi wins a delegate in American Samoa!! 😎
Clue (by referencing a certain movie) -- "Shall we play a game?"
That haggis is on the other thread. I kinda answered there.
You're too quick for me.
On H&I now.
I was right- A Taste of Armageddon. I would have never remembered the actual title without looking it up.
MSNBC cameras showing a line outside an Austin Texas voting site.
Big turnout, 2-3 hour wait!
Everyone in line looked to be twenty something years old.
oh, it's at the Univ. of Texas campus
Looks like voter turnout is going to be very high. Long lines being reported.
I was trying to remember the last time I actually watched an episode from the original series. Has to have been at least 20 years now. Of course, I had seen them all at least twice by the time I was 12 years old.
Of course it is young people- who wouldn't know you can vote early in Texas to avoid the line.
Hmmm. Looking at the Virginia and North Carolina results, I see that Biden won Virginia just 54% to 23%, but comes away with four times as many delegates. Biden won NC 32% to 24%, but so far has four times as many delegates. If I was a Bernie Bro I might get a touch suspicious.
Oh, and it looks as though Bloomberg is going to get a delegate (one) from North Carolina.
As I pointed out earlier- Texas posted some early voting totals before the polls closed- Sanders did very well in that. Texas may be Biden's Waterloo if he has a weakness tonight. Sanders won the hispanic caucusers in Nevada by a good margin, and Texas might reflect that sudden appeal Sanders has. Additionally, African-Americans only make up 11% of the population about half was you see in Virginia and North Carolina.
The same could apply to California and Colorado later.
This un-enrolled voter did his part of Operation Chaos here in MA. Though I feared that it would burst into flames in my very conservative fingers, I took a D ballot and gave the nod to the Bern.
I want the November election to be one of real contrasts. Really put it to the voters, in the starkest of terms,
“In which direction do you [the voters] want the country to head?”
The way of the Founders/Framers (with Trump acting as an imperfect proxy),
or, the way of the EU/USSR/PRC/UN (with Bernie as a model proxy)
Do we want freedom FROM government (which is the question with which the Framers wrestled) via limited, constitutional government whereby government itself is bound by law, or do we want total government?
colo will go bernie. but- we're a caucus state so expect shenanigans.
Drago said...
Just one link with any of that
Will this be the new standard going forward?
BleachBit-and-Hammers: "colo will go bernie. but- we're a caucus state so expect shenanigans."
CO went to a primary format.
I sense a "Great Awakening" in the Impeachment Force.......
we did?
Big Mike,
Virginia has more delegates to assign once the count reaches 100%. I think Biden will win about 73 and Sanders will win 26 when the 99 pledged delegates are fully assigned. The one in the present total come from the 11 congressional districts which account for about 60 to 70- those are mostly the ones assigned as of now.
BleachBit-and-Hammers: "we did?"
Yep.
ARM: "Will this be the new standard going forward?"
You'd better hope not!
Drago - you are right. I voted by mail. lol. I've been so used to our caucus situation, I forgot. more troubling is my Biden disease. yikes.
I think Biden did so well in Virginia because early voting isn't a big thing in the state- you can vote absentee, but you have to provide a valid reason. Looking at the vote totals beyond the top 4 suggests to me that fewer than 50,000 people voted absentee before today in Virginia (I am looking at the vote totals of the two most recent dropouts to guesstimate this number).
Tennessee is closer than I thought it would be Biden v Sanders.
Colo is a primary state - but we vote by mail - so expect shenanigans.
*fixed.
BleachBit-and-Hammers: "Drago - you are right. I voted by mail. lol. I've been so used to our caucus situation, I forgot. more troubling is my Biden disease. yikes."
It might be contagious.
The back half of the primaries are starting to look quite a bit better for The Bolshevik Bern.
Saul Goodman is thrilled that Mike won American Samoa
Populism for free stuff gives young people the Bernie itch. Plus, he was sort of cheated last time, no?
Communism is making a renaissance. We are really screwed.
Biden is the deep state crook and he'll be a puppet. But as Inga states - better a corrupt D, than that horrible man named Trump. right?
Wow, turnout in VA almost doubled from 2016.
Warren sinking to 3rd in her home state.
ConservativeNotCrazy@IAMMGraham·
The best part of tomorrow is going to be listening to @MassDems blame @eWarren's disastrous performance in her home state on the sexism and misogyny of...@MassDems.
Warren "cleverly" skedaddled out of the line of fire to the Motor City for tonights returns and gave her "victory" speech before the polls in MA could be reported!
She's a slick one.....I think I'm gonna "git" me a beer.
we don't know who offed with Seth Rich. Good thing the FBI are all over it. They really got to the bottom of it. Not suspicious at all the Seth was a Bernie Bro and he might have had the kind of info needed to nail Hillary to a wall. Just another happy coincidence death!
It looks like Biden will overperform in Oklahoma, Vermont, and Maine versus Clinton's showing in 2016 versus Sanders, but the differences are going to be under 15 additional delegates. Sanders will make all of that up if he can win Texas alone. It is interesting to me that none of the networks have called Texas, Arkansas, or Tennessee. This suggest Sanders is overperforming greatly in all three versus 2016- this is good news for Sanders and bad news for Biden- it might have a lot to do with the early voting in all three states.
YW: " It is interesting to me that none of the networks have called Texas, Arkansas, or Tennessee."
If the other nets are behaving the same way Fox is then they are basically cheerleading for Biden.
Drago said...
"The back half of the primaries are starting to look quite a bit better for The Bolshevik Bern."
Yes, it does. It is definitely the effect of fewer African-Americans in the voting base, and surely an effect of early voting in a lot of these later states (see the Bloomberg results).
Bernie still pulling in about 25% in both Tennessee and Oklahoma. I'm a bit surprised by that. Thought he would have taken a bigger hit there.
CO already called for The Bolshevik Bern.
Warren third in her home state is entertaining, but face it, the only Massachusetts result that matter are Bruins 2 Tampa Lightning 1 at the end of the second period. Still too soon to call but so far, so good.
I'm getting one, discreet nervous pang. How did Slow Joe go from being declared politically dead to skyrocketing to the top in only 1 week?
That ain't some organic growth. That's some serious power brokers pushing some levers and making shit happen. In politics, I see only few coincidences.
I'd like to see Bernie do better tonight. How's Texas going?
It looks like Biden will outperform Clinton in North Carolina by 3 to 4 delegates over Sanders. Will likely underperform in Tennessee, Arkansas, and definitely underperform in Texas.
I'm in SoCal a few miles east of LA. I went to the "voting location" (the local library) a little before 4:30 PM and it took me an hour to get in to vote. When I left the line was much longer than when I first arrived.
On the way home I ran into a local who said it had been like this the last several days. Voting began in CA on 2/22, so it looks like turnout has been high at least in my area.
Has there ever been a more impactful endorsement than Clyburn's last Wednesday?
Bloomberg definitely hurt Biden in all the states with extensive early voting. This could be a disaster for Biden in the making because it means Bloomberg won't drop out after tonight. He will poll more like he did in a non-early voting state like Virginia (9%), but that 9% is critical to Biden's hope of winning at least a plurality lead in delegates.
I think Warren drops out after tonight.
In 2016, CO was still a caucus state, and it was widely known that Bernie was cheated here. superdelegate Polis went all in for Hillary, but it didn't cost him anything. Now - 4 years later - Bernie really won CO. FU Hillary. That's all I got.
Bloomberg making a 2nd place showing in CO?
Bay Area Guy,
I would guess the Democratic machines in all these states were working for Biden in the get out the vote effort today and Saturday. This is all probably technically illegal per the campaign finance laws, but impossible to stop.
The stock market recently experienced a great Trump awakening.
GDP is looking like it it is ready for a great Trump awakening.
You can fool some of the people all of the time ...
Mini-Mike spent $500 Million to win America Samoa! Go long on Spam!
It looks like both Massachusetts and Minesota don't allow easy early voting- again looking at the vote totals for Buttuvwxyz and Klobber to see this. Definitely favored Biden like Virginia and South Carolina.
James Pethokoukis
@JimPethokoukis
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"Bernie's collapsing in the betting markets. One of the worsts days for socialism since the final speech of Nicolae Ceaușescu"
LOL - thats funny.
Clyburn on MSNBC now. This guy oozes 'clout'.
Biden will overperform in Minnesota by at least 20 delegates- all because Klobber withdrew and endorsed.
@Yancey,
Shouldn't Bloomy simply quit tomorrow and give his $ and support to Biden? He's never had a beef with Slow Joe, and mostly just wants to beat Trump.
Clyburn didn't just endorse, he got Biden to fix his fund raising, clean up his speeches, and improve GOTV.
Joe-mentum!
“The stock market recently experienced a great Trump awakening.
GDP is looking like it it is ready for a great Trump awakening.
You can fool some of the people all of the time ...”
Looks like Trump pressuring the Fed to lower interest rates and the Fed actually doing it may have backfired. Wall St. got even more freaked out.
YW: "I think Warren drops out after tonight."
She just received an infusion of cash from the insiders. She isn't going anywhere...unless she wants to use the cash for her own benefit which she can do if she "suspends" her campaign.
You can fool some of the people all of the time ...
YOU can't.
Trump and congress will do some fiscal stimulus soon to prevent the economy from freezing up.
Will include a payroll tax cut.
Inga: "Looks like Trump pressuring the Fed to lower interest rates and the Fed actually doing it may have backfired. Wall St. got even more freaked out."
LOL
The US is still at a much higher funds rate than any other industrialized western nation.
Much higher.
Germany has a negative rate at -.31%
But do tell us more Inga. It's fascinating.
It's too bad this Obama Economy couldn't hold up under the pressure of the coronavirus after the dems weaponized it.
“... Economy couldn't hold up under the pressure of the coronavirus after the dems weaponized it.”
Another one of OCDrago’s conspiracy theories.
Coronavirus is here to stay, and will have to be dealt with going forward.
The pharmeceutical summit held by Trump has got the greatest minds working on vaccines and therapeutics.
Japan Central Bank rate: -.10%
Bank Of England: .75%
European Common Bank: 0.00%
Switzerland: -.75
That's what Trump has been talking about.
But to understand that you'd have to at least have taken the time to look at the other rates and ask yourself why the US rate was so much higher...and lets face it, that's not really something Inga and ARM are up for.
I guess the big question after tonight is this- will Bloomberg drop out and endorse Biden? This would probably seal the deal for Biden going forward, regardless of how Texas and California end up voting tonight. You can judge Bloomberg's strength by the states voting tonight that don't have easy early voting- he polls around 9% in those states. In states with easy early voting, he is polling above 15%. After tonight, there are is little early voting advantage for him- the distance from that debate performance is now 3 weeks. The states after this only started early voting after that debate performance.
“Coronavirus is here to stay, and will have to be dealt with going forward.
The pharmeceutical summit held by Trump has got the greatest minds working on vaccines and therapeutics.”
Indeed. It was interesting hearing Trump ask if our current influenza immunizations would be effective against Covid19. He got a quick and short answer, “no”.
Inga: "Another one of OCDrago’s conspiracy theories."
LOL
"Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame."
By Gail Collins
NYT Opinion Columnist
Feb. 26, 2020
Yep. All made up!
The point is to keep your immune system up.
Oh shit! Now Carville is on MSNBC!!
This is quite the night for the dems.
Inga: "Indeed. It was interesting hearing Trump ask if our current influenza immunizations would be effective against Covid19. He got a quick and short answer, “no”."
LOL
Inga "forgot" to mention Dr Fauci described the record breaking speed (approximately 3.5 months) to reach Phase 1 trials for a vaccine.
Inga "forgets" lots of stuff like that....
Perhaps she needs a "Great Awakening".
“His question came during a meeting with pharmaceutical executives and members of his administration's coronavirus task force. Leonard Schleifer, CEO of the biotechnology company Regeneron, said that while millions of people were vaccinated for the flu, no one had yet gotten a vaccine to prevent COVID-19, The Independent reported.
"But the same vaccine could not work?" Trump said. "You take a solid flu vaccine — you don't think that would have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?"
"No," Schleifer replied.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-asked-if-flu-vaccine-could-stop-coronavirus-2020-3
The question now is how bad does the economy have to get for Biden to beat Trump. We are already close.
WHO says coronavirus death rate is 3.4% globally, higher than previously thought.
Uh oh.
How dare Trump ask questions!
Carville got the knives out for Burno
He is ranting, no love lost for Sanders.
"..he ain't getting the vote of educated white women..."
wow
The Flu shot isn't a slam dunk. Some years it's ineffective. Trump's fault.
For this race to still be in doubt, Sanders must win Texas and California. He will definitely do better in both states than he did in 2016, but he actually needs to win both of them. Without those wins, Biden's momentum will be too much.
Today US public health leaders addressed a Senate committee hearing and clarified the country's response to the growing COVID-19 outbreak that is now seeded in multiple communities.
"It will take at least a year to a year in a half to have a vaccine we can use," said National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) director Anthony Fauci, MD. Though work on a novel coronavirus vaccine has been some of the fastest on record, Fauci said, he explained to senators that a vaccine candidate must be proven safe and efficacious in a multi-step trial process.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/03/fauci-vaccine-least-year-away-covid-19-death-toll-rises-9-seattle
Future flu vaccines will now have to account for COV-19. They currently do not.
Trump Job Approval Relapses Amid Coronavirus Threat
Just 41% of Americans approve of how President Trump is handling his job, while 54% disapprove. That negative 13-point differential has nearly doubled in the past month.
Biden, with that sharp brain and crooked mean spirit will certainly save us from any virus.
It took Obama 1000 American deaths to call H1N1 an emergency. oh well.
There is talk that Israel may already have a vaccine.
But the rules say we would still have to test it for use in America.
Scott Adams asked if we should bypass the testing if Israel's testing was adequate?
ARM: "Just 41% of Americans approve of how President Trump is handling his job, while 54% disapprove. That negative 13-point differential has nearly doubled in the past month."
LOL
Trump has no path to 270! Again!!
Keep Hope Alive!
"This would probably seal the deal for Biden going forward, regardless of how Texas and California end up voting tonight."
I don't think that Biden can seal a deal. It's a unique situation, with a primary on Saturday followed by 14 on the following Tuesday. After this, they spread out again, and Biden has to go into those states, where he'll alternate talking nonsense and squabbling with voters. He might win, but he'll still have to be dragged across the line.
Do you boring anti-Trumpers have anything to say about your own primary?
Are your candidates that insignificant that you have nothing to say about them?
Mark - good point.
They know deep down that Biden is a crook - but they don't care.
They know Bernie is a commie - but they don't care.
Trump hate is all they got.
“Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame."
By Gail Collins
NYT Opinion Columnist
Feb. 26, 2020
Yep. All made up!”
And OCDrago asserts that this has made Wall Street tank. Sorry but I think the guys at Wall Street aren’t that affected but such opinion columnists. I think maybe, just maybe they’ve been seeing what has been happening around the world with this pandemic. But shhhh, let OCDrago believe that opinion pieces he cites have such control over Wall Street trading.
Limited Blogger: "But the rules say we would still have to test it for use in America.
Scott Adams asked if we should bypass the testing if Israel's testing was adequate?"
Dr Fauci actually discussed this today where he said the obama-ites at the FDA changed the rules to make it impossible for independent (but certified) labs to rapidly develop and launch test kits for disease detection without first going thru the entire bureaucratic maze created by the obama-ites.
I would suspect the dems also performed the same bureaucracy suffocation techniques on drug development as well.
Currently around 17 Trillion in bonds with negative rates.
ARM
What is your dream death count for the US? And when after the election do you hope the virus fizzles? You seem so very excited.
Inga: "And OCDrago asserts that this has made Wall Street tank."
LOL
Them goalposts keep on movin' movin'.....
Keep up Collusion Girl! You're doing great!
The impeachment of Trump May have helped Joe Biden.
The way I look at it there are about 4000 delegates and you need about 2000 to win on the first ballot or about half. At 8:48 CST Biden has about half the delegates allocated and Sanders and the others have the rest. So Joe would be heading for a first ballot win because Butigfxc and Klubbie will transfer their delegates to him. But Texas and California aren't in. Sanders is ahead in Texas and no results on RealClear from California
“Are your candidates that insignificant that you have nothing to say about them?”
What more is there to say? It’s all betting the odds now between a Bernie and Biden. As I’ve said and most Democrats say, whoever gets the nomination will get our vote against a Trump.
Matt Viser
@mviser
·
"Joe Biden is mopping the floor in states that he never visited, where he opened zero field offices, and where he spent next to nothing on TV."
You know the thing.
Just 15 minutes ago Inga was claiming the dems weren't weaponizing coronavirus (spoiler: they are).
Now, its all forgotten!!
Well, it was time for a History Reset!
Stephen Green responds:
"Biden is mired in personal and family scandal, isn't a great money-raiser, never had particularly strong organizations even in the states where he was organized...
...and now this.
It's almost enough to get you to say: The fix was in."
LLR-lefty Chuck: "The impeachment of Trump May have helped Joe Biden."
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Said no one ever!
Too funny.
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