“The President has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case.” A.G. Barr This doesn’t mean that I do not have, as President, the legal right to do so, I do, but I have so far chosen not to!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 14, 2020
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Presidential restraint.
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He did pardon Sheriff Joe just before sentencing on that misdemeanor case. Not sure if that counts.
His best tweets were tweeting against the Figurehead Mueller Prosecution while they were creating busywork pretending that they didn’t know the Russian Collusion was a hoax. Those were deserved.
Trump’s got very good political instincts. If his tweets keep the DOJ/FBI in line then that’s what he does.
True. Compare and contrast with Obama’s behavior in the New Black Panthers trial.
Sounds good to me. The ag works for the prez.
John Henry
I think he's wrong, both on the law and on our traditions.
"I think he's wrong, both on the law and on our traditions."
Obama's wingman. "Eric Holder, once Obama’s ‘wingman,’ now calling out Barr for loyalty to Trump"
Totally right. The AG works at the pleasure of the President. The President has Executive Authority, which he delegates to the AG.
is the department of justice a part of the executive branch?
i understand, that the state department is an independent org, that reports ONLY to the deep state
as is, the department of defense, and the interior dept... But the DOJ?
Come to think of it;
Does the Constitution give ANY powers to the President? or is he just a figurehead?
He is playing people like you Ann.
"Does the Constitution give ANY powers to the President? or is he just a figurehead?"
I think there's a clause there that is intended to make Trump a figurehead at best. It's not in my copy of the Constitution, but others, including a Hawaiian judge, seem to have it.
I think he's wrong, both on the law and on our traditions.
The executive power is vested by Article II of the Constitution in the President of the United States. There is no vesting of that power in inferior officers established by Congress, in direct contrast to Article III, where the judicial power is also vested in inferior courts established by Congress. No one in the DOJ, as a constitutional matter, has any authority to act independently of the President's instructions. They are exclusively using power delegated by the President in the name of the President, and the President can as a Constitutional matter override any of their choices, including in criminal cases, as to how to use his power.
"Does the Constitution give ANY powers to the President? or is he just a figurehead?"
I think it varies depending on which party is in the White House.
I can remember when Obama told the DOJ that Hillary did nothing intentionally wrong and whatever laws were violated by innocent mistake.
There is no such thing as “independence” of prosecutors. It’s the president’s job to ensure that federal prosecutors don’t go after their enemies and look the other way for their friends.
I think he's wrong, both on the law and on our traditions.
Really? Traditions? Do you not know who JFK's AG was in Camelot?
Roger Stone is a clown but this vindictive act by the Mueller squad is interesting in how it exposes them. That judge also suppressed evidence of bias in other jurors.
This is far from over. Disappointing to see McCabe get off scot free, though.
that was because Obama as well as much of the cabinet, were in the same boat, re the private email servers,
It is my understanding that upon his departure from the White House, obama removed the phone and the pen he used to execute new laws all by himself without any messy congressional "participation".
obama then gave that phone and pen to some Hawaiian judge so that judge could make up new laws for the entire nation.
A nice take on the whole farce.
William Jefferson's lawyer, once upon a time, in front of judge ellis, as it turned out,
Trump should re-Tweet that Lisa Page gloat Tweet.
What could Barr complain about?
Trumps caption could be "they're laughing at you".
There was very little public mention during the Obama administration about the many EEOC lawsuits (over 90) that were brought on behalf of Muslim employees. Religious accommodations for Muslims in terms of headscarves and prayer breaks and prayer rooms were clearly important goals for President Obama.
God, I adore how Trump trolls. We laugh out loud reading his tweets. He's just fearless. That said, I think he shoots himself in the foot sometimes, and restraint would be nice. But it ain't happenin'.
Barr will do the right thing so long as he gets something out of it.
Trump just comes out and admits to entire Ukraine scam. How are Republicans feeling right about now?
Barr has a very small window of time to get this, and make this, right. I hope he realizes that.
that was because Obama as well as much of the cabinet, were in the same boat, re the private email servers,
I heard somewhere today that Obama is claiming executive privilege over Hillary's emails. I guess a friendly foreign government gave their copy to the US.
I thought merely claiming executive privilege was a high crime and misdemeanor worthy of impeachment and removal.
Micro-managing is murder on subordinates. Mr. Trump needs to stop. It is a sign of a presidency in distress (it's also bullsh*t).
<a href="https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/corrupt-stone-judge-amy-berman-jackson-wanted-to-jail-conservative-journalist-for-exposing-juror-bias/> interesting </a>
The executive power is vested by Article II of the Constitution in the President of the United States. There is no vesting of that power in inferior officers established by Congress, in direct contrast to Article III, where the judicial power is also vested in inferior courts established by Congress. No one in the DOJ, as a constitutional matter, has any authority to act independently of the President's instructions. They are exclusively using power delegated by the President in the name of the President, and the President can as a Constitutional matter override any of their choices, including in criminal cases, as to how to use his power.
This is the unitary executive theory. Which is, at best, a fringe and extreme understanding of executive power. You are describing a president with the unchecked power of a king, which the founders certainly did not want.
@narciso:
Sometimes you can right click a link, do "inspect element" and then copy it and paste into comments here. Works at gateway pundit and others but not everywhere.
Corrupt Stone Judge Amy Berman Jackson Wanted To Jail Conservative Journalist For Exposing Juror Bias
ARM said...
Trump just comes out and admits to entire Ukraine scam. How are Republicans feeling right about now?
Trump said he hired Giuliani as his lawyer to defend against the Mueller hoax, everyone knew that.
That Giuliani went to Ukraine is different than Trump having "dispatched" Giuliani there for any particular purpose, much less admit to some "entire Ukraine scam".
You are describing a president with the unchecked power of a king, which the founders certainly did not want.
That being the case, bow to your King, lib.
Narciso,
You put a space before and after the your “interesting”. Remember no spaces except for before the href.
“Trump just comes out and admits to entire Ukraine scam. How are Republicans feeling right about now?”
Trump should never restrain himself from talking and tweeting.
I have never understood American ideas about kings.
Kings are leaders of their tribe, people, nation, whatever, and very much subject to its laws. They are, or rather were, in bygone days, given a bit leeway in order to do their jobs in difficult times, but exceed that and they could find, and frequently did, themselves subjects of a "Viking housewarming."
Dictators of military empires is a different subject entirely.
"This is the unitary executive theory. Which is, at best, a fringe and extreme understanding of executive power."
Is there anyone else in the executive branch that is elected by the entire nation?
Obama famously said, "The police acted studily"
So...what if Trump says, "The DOJ acted studpidly."
Inga, compare and contrast.
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This is the unitary executive theory. Which is, at best, a fringe and extreme understanding of executive power. You are describing a president with the unchecked power of a king, which the founders certainly did not want.
Exactly. which is why the POTUS can be impeached and removed, cannot pardon himself for being impeached and removed, and why he serves for a limited term.
Trump should follow Bloombergs lead. Bribe his way into a third term. Provide some stability for the nation and increase positive momentum.
We can encourage third term for Trump after the election, when we have more flexibility.
Narciso,
You put a space before and after the your “interesting”. Remember no spaces except for before the href.
And forgot the second quote mark. Two or none.
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Barr has a very small window of time to get this, and make this, right. I hope he realizes that.
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Could Barr be maneuvering to shut the window on Trump's re-election.
I'm always paranoid.
Yeah, this is why I couldn't vote for him last time, and won't vote for him this time. (For the record, I will not vote AGAINST anyone. The lesser of two evils is still evil, and I won't go there.)
Big Mike said...
I think he's wrong, both on the law and on our traditions.
BM is right about traditions.
When a republican is president the AG is absolutely independent and a completely separate entity.
When a democrat is president the AG serves the president.
It is easy stuff.
Mark said...
Yeah, this is why I couldn't vote for him last time, and won't vote for him this time. (For the record, I will not vote AGAINST anyone. The lesser of two evils is still evil, and I won't go there.)
We will still defend your freedom.
Even though you are completely worthless and don't deserve it.
The Clinton WH got in trouble for allowing staffers to call in the FBI to go after the Travel Office. But it's different when the Prez does it himself.
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Trump just comes out and admits to entire Ukraine scam. How are Republicans feeling right about now?
Like he is doing his job investigating swamp rats siphoning off our tax dollars that were laundered through the Ukraine.
The entirety of Trump’s Presidency consists of the media screaming that to use the power entrusted him by the people is an impeachable act.
Is there anyone else in the executive branch that is elected by the entire nation?
Is there anyone else who can be removed by the people?
Certainly Comey would have failed to win a majority, yet he continued to serve.
Trump should never restrain himself from talking and tweeting.
I agree. The Democrats are rotten to the core and we need to know about it.
The Schweizer book is a good primer.
Inga (carried forward from an earlier thread): If, on your iPhone or iPad, you don't want to turn off the “Smart Punctuation” setting under Keyboard, there's another way to (easily!) enter the proper "straight" rather than “curly” double-quotes (for bracketing the url link in the html <A> tag when doing links).
The alternate solution to this issue (while leaving Smart Punctuation otherwise turned on) is to hold your finger down on the double-quote key until the subsidiary menu opens up (displaying several different kinds of quotes you can choose), then select the straight double-quotes (": rightmost item in the list).
Seems kinda low..Rap Sheet: **389** Hate Crimes Against Trump Supporters
"The alternate solution to this issue (while leaving Smart Punctuation otherwise turned on) is to hold your finger down on the double-quote key until the subsidiary menu opens up (displaying several different kinds of quotes you can choose), then select the straight double-quotes (": rightmost item in the list)."
Yes thanks, I did test that out.
My husband thinks (I swear I start about every third comment this way) that Trump tweets in order to get a particular message into the mass media. He knows the press will cover whatever he tweets (as opposed to "whatever is news"), and he knows that not everyone in the electorate will take it as the press presents it but will rather see it as he meant it. So, a calculated risk.
This is the unitary executive theory. Which is, at best, a fringe and extreme understanding of executive power.
Yes, actually following the US Constitution explicitly as written is a fringe and extreme position in modern America. Unfortunately.
You are describing a president with the unchecked power of a king
No, I'm not. I'm describing an officer who wields no legislative or judicial power, nor has any authority over persons wielding such power, which makes the officer nothing like a king.
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Incidentally, the what-if-he-doesn't-prosecute issues go away entirely when you correctly restore the Founding Era right of private prosecution, well-established in the common law, to the people. Instead of the anti-constitutional abomination of an "independent" Department of Justice wielding an unchecked extra-constitutional power of "prosecutorial discretion", you get a Department of Justice under democratic control and anyone interested (e.g., the State AG of New York) going before Federal grand juries to indict Federal criminals.
But then, that's another "fringe and extreme" approach. Sure, it's the order that the common law and Constitution actually established and would work better than the current mess, but the system being both Constitutional and effective is against the interests of the ruling class and their sycophantic boot-lickers. After all, if anyone could prosecute any Federal crime, they'd have to actually worry about Congress passing overly-broad laws with draconian punishments, rather than sitting secure in the knowledge that the favors they can call in mean they'll never be prosecuted like a peon.
We will still defend your freedom.
Even though you are completely worthless and don't deserve it.
I will defend my freedom.
And who is this "we", kemosabe?
"I think he's wrong, both on the law and on our traditions."
We no longer have any traditions.
A boy can be a girl.
Muslims in the US Congress swear an oath on the Koran, that instructs them to deceive the kaffir.
College Professors call for white genocide, toxic masculinity, white privilege. The effetes gave us this.
We'll take it from here. You didn't do your job. You're good at feathering your nest though. Mmmm...taxpayer pensions. We pay for that too.
Restraint? No way!
Autocratic narcissism - absolutely!
Dementia? No doubt.
Wall building? Yeah, but not on the Mexican border.
He knows the press will cover whatever he tweets (as opposed to "whatever is news"), and he knows that not everyone in the electorate will take it as the press presents it but will rather see it as he meant it. So, a calculated risk.
Jamie, I agree.
if a President was not supposed to have an opinion about prosecution/trials/sentencing then how come has he got sentence commuting and pardon prerogatives?
Was the McCabe investigation dropped to prevent double jeopardy from attaching for Durham?
>>Was the McCabe investigation dropped to prevent double jeopardy from attaching for Durham?
Wishful thinking. Nobody is going to get arrested in the FBI or DOJ for going after Trump.
A few will lose their jobs temporarily. Maybe.
Jamie: "My husband thinks (I swear I start about every third comment this way) that Trump tweets in order to get a particular message into the mass media."
Nah, that can't be. That Trump is a really stupid and impulsive man with no foresight is the much more reasonable explanation.
alanc709: "Was the McCabe investigation dropped to prevent double jeopardy from attaching for Durham?"
Guys, let's leave the "walls are really closing in now!" fantasies to our more excitable Trump-hating friends.
IOW, what DanTheMan said.
"Big Mike said...
I think..."
See, that's where you messed up.
Well, the president is the chief law enforcement officer of the United States.
" Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Trump just comes out and admits to entire Ukraine scam. How are Republicans feeling right about now?"
Didn't you post this weak shit the other day? Maybe you could highlight the sentence Trump uttered where he admits to entire Ukraine scam.
Pathetic.
"wholelottasplainin' said...
Obama famously said, "The police acted studily"
So...what if Trump says, "The DOJ acted studpidly."
Inga, compare and contrast"
I know when you think of "stupidly" the natural reaction is Inga as your "go to"....but all you will get it more stupid.
Liberal Trolls, like AReasonableMan, Frederson, Inga, etc., continue to show us that their opinions are what counts and facts and law are meaningless.
I can’t help but think how different the Liberal Trolls reaction would be if President Obama intervened in a case and decided to cut a prison sentence short. Hypothetically speaking, let’s say someone was convicted of espionage—spying—and had his 35-year sentence reduced to six years by President Obama. Oh, wait, no need to speak in hypotheticals—that happened. See Chelsea Manning.
>>Chelsea Manning
You misspelled "Bradley".
Mark said...
I will defend my freedom.
And who is this "we", kemosabe?
Sure you will.
You are too pure to vote for Trump. But you will defend your freedom. And you shit strawberry ice cream.
Are you a cruise ship republican or a bircher?
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