Enero 30, 2020

As if wind is nothing.

I'm reading "New Section of Trump’s ‘Virtually Impenetrable’ Wall Gets Blown Over by Wind in California" (NY Magazine).

54 (na) komento:

David Begley ayon kay ...

Misleading. The concrete wasn’t cured.

Michael K ayon kay ...

causing the metal slats to timber into Mexican territory:

Timberrrr !

Fernandinande ayon kay ...

Fake News headline because it's not "Trump's wall".

I bet I'd believe the rest of it, though!

iowan2 ayon kay ...

Bad construction or engineering.

Just because a bridge collapses doesn't mean bridges don't work.

Dust Bunny Queen ayon kay ...

Yeah. Illustrating exactly why we must FINISH the wall. A few isolated and partially built segments of wall are useless and unstable.

Since it is obvious that the Democrats are going to do nothing to stop the flood of Illegal Aliens invading the country and depleting our social welfare programs and increasing crime.....we have to do something to protect our citizens health, welfare, personal safety and our National economic health.

Build/finish the damn wall.

Other alternatives are much worse. Trust me.

Stv30 ayon kay ...

If you're on a bridge that collapses...

tcrosse ayon kay ...

The call the wind Maria.

Ryan ayon kay ...

I opened my car door at a gas station in LA yesterday, and the wind nearly tore the door off its hinges.

Lurker21 ayon kay ...

tcrosse said...

The call the wind Maria.


Of course. Mexican name.

MadTownGuy ayon kay ...

Downside of going with low bid?

Mike (MJB Wolf) ayon kay ...

It wouldn’t have blown over if it was fully funded, and interconnected. Duh. Progs create stupid situations and then point and do their best Munson “ha HA” as their subterfuge has the expected (but “unintentional”) result.

hombre ayon kay ...

Maybe it’s about the contractor, not Trump. TDS causes erosion of the mind.

Smerdyakov ayon kay ...


New article of impeachment.

Chuck ayon kay ...

It’s only fitting, that with the justifications for building “a great border wall” being so stupid, that criticisms of the wall could be just as silly.

WisRich ayon kay ...

Concrete wasn't cured yet. Yet another Fake News story.

rhhardin ayon kay ...

Wall is llaw spelled backwards. Rule of llaw.

Bob Boyd ayon kay ...

The gust was extreme and therefore caused by global warming.
Global warming is thwarting Trump.
2nd look at fossil fuels?

hawkeyedjb ayon kay ...

It's not The Wall that's at issue, of course. It's the idea of the wall. Some believe that foreigners coming to the US should never be inconvenienced, so they hate the very idea of A Wall. But what if we built a bridge to make life easier for the migrants, and the bridge collapsed? Or we sent buses to bring them over, and the bus crashed? The very idea of the bridge or the bus would be invalid, for sure.

alanc709 ayon kay ...

"Chuck said...
It’s only fitting, that with the justifications for building “a great border wall” being so stupid, that criticisms of the wall could be just as silly."

It's only silly to treasonous fools who have no interest in the US maintaining its sovereignty.

Leland ayon kay ...

Wait until NYMag learns what wind did to Paradise.

Darrell ayon kay ...

No Border, no Wall, No America at all.

--Your Democratic Party 2020

Skeptical Voter ayon kay ...

Tornadoes? Hurricanes? Typhoons?

Most of the wind seen in New York City comes from blowhards.

gilbar ayon kay ...

Just Like President Trump SAID! (well, not Cancer; But Heart Problems!!)
Wind Crisis: Iowa cardiologist shares health concerns over wind turbines

mikee ayon kay ...

Much like locking one's car doors in a public parking space, the US border wall is how we tell those outside the wall that they should follow the rules to enter the country.

Sure, one rock through the car window and the car's contents can be stolen. Sure, one can cut or climb a wall. But in both cases by doing so, one performs an act so obviously contrary to the desires of the car owner, or country, that there is almost no legitimate defense against swift, sure justice for doing so.

Curious George ayon kay ...

"Chuck said...
It’s only fitting, that with the justifications for building “a great border wall” being so stupid, that criticisms of the wall could be just as silly"

Hey, it's "We got the meats!"

JAORE ayon kay ...

Well 37 mph winds are far below design levels (in my state it's 100 mph plus a gust factor).... for a finished wall. Possibly causes, poor design, poor construction, concrete not set (when was it poured?) or the panels are not resistant to winds until interconnected.

Or CNN may think a black hole may have appeared at the wall.

I think (as a former civil engineer) I'd wait for an analysis.

But that's just me.

hawkeyedjb ayon kay ...

We can't keep all of them out, so we shouldn't try to keep any of them out.

We can't stop all crime, so we shouldn't try to stop any crime. Let's try that in your neighborhood first, Chuck.

Howard ayon kay ...

It was a breaking wind. The wall had no chance

traditionalguy ayon kay ...

It's all Trump's fault. Just like all the airplane crashes. And don't forget the multi vehicle crashes in fog and on icy roads. He does it all.

Darrell ayon kay ...

I told you to go with the hunter-killer drones.

Bill Peschel ayon kay ...

You build a wall for the same reason you lock your home's doors and windows. Deterrence. They may still break in, but it takes longer and raises the chance someone might see.

Reminds me of the bagel anecdote that opens "Freakonomics." Guy delivers bagels to offices in the D.C. area. After a couple years, he has enough statistics about how much he loses to thieves.

Not surprisingly, if the bagels and the coin box are out in the open where people can see, the theft rate goes down. All in all, about 20% of people will steal, even in front of other people.

Same thing with the wall.

Lewis Wetzel ayon kay ...

Are journalists really that ignorant? Do they believe that a wall has to be impenetrable to have value? The idea is to increase the marginal cost of unpermitted border crossings. Millions of people across the country secure their houses at night with a cheap door lock from Home Depot that anyone can breech with a cheap screwdriver. Should they stop locking their doors?
On Youtube you can see the libertarian comedian Penn Jillette demonstrating the stupidity of the idea of a border fence by paying some Mexicans a few dollars to use a ladder to get over a fence.
Har!
Penn Jillete has a very expensive, modernist home in Las Vegas. You know how he keeps trespassers off of his property? A big ol' fence.

Howard ayon kay ...

Rhh: The double l is pronounced like a y so you're talkin about the rule of yaw. Therefore ipso facto, the wall suffered from adverse yaw

AllenS ayon kay ...

It's probably just a story from Homeland Security. Meant for the illegals to read about not climbing on the wall, because it might fall over on them, and ruin their day.

bleh ayon kay ...

Sometimes Trump's critics inadvertently make the argument that Trump should be more extreme in what he does.

Robert Cook ayon kay ...

"...we must FINISH the wall. A few isolated and partially built segments of wall are useless and unstable....the flood of Illegal Aliens invading the country and depleting our social welfare programs and increasing crime...."


Looks like the flood has been declining over the past decade plus.

Also, what information indicates there is "increasing crime" caused by this (declining) "flood?"

MikeR ayon kay ...

Huh. So liberals want to spend more on a better, stronger wall?

Browndog ayon kay ...

David Begley said...

Misleading. The concrete wasn’t cured.


Further, it wasn't new wall. It was an upgrade to an existing "border fence", according to DHS.

stlcdr ayon kay ...

Luckily it was built on the border part where Mexicans don't cross to the US.

n.n ayon kay ...

We can't stop all crime, so we shouldn't try to stop any crime.

We can't stop all the murderers, the abortionists, the rapists, the diversitists, the femi- and mascu-chauvinists. We should just go along to get along.

n.n ayon kay ...

Looks like the flood has been declining over the past decade plus.

Legal immigration or so-called "immigration reform" and Obama's economy.

is-illegal-immigration-linked-to-more-or-less-crime

With declining illegal immigration a proportional decline crime rate.

DAN ayon kay ...

If the Challenger had gone down this week, investigations would find overwhelming proof that Trump personally froze the O-rings.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Funny, I have been assured over and over by the MSM that the wall isn't being built. Trump lies!

Infinite Monkeys ayon kay ...

The double l is pronounced like a y so you're talkin about the rule of yaw. Therefore ipso facto, the wall suffered from adverse yaw

Shouldn't that be the "way" suffered...?

hstad ayon kay ...

Just another sucker headline which means zilch! What does "concrete not cured" mean - LOL!

pacwest ayon kay ...

25% of people illegally in the US cross the southern border. ICE is still the major component of the "wall". Trump is working on the other 75%. Congress needs to act.

Mexico, suprisingly, is 'paying' for the "wall" with troops at their southern and northern borders as well as providing more enforcement of their own immigration laws.

The physical barrier, and ICE enforcement efforts provide a strong psychological deterrence as much as anything. Measuring miles built or people detained is not the true measure of success. The true metric is what the cost is, both financially and civilly, of people in our country illegally. Trump is making a dent in these costs by using several legal methods. Congress needs to act.

jimbino ayon kay ...

I have always offered work to any Latino who comes knocking on my door. If we would just let Mexicans build the wall, it would work!

Tyrone Slothrop ayon kay ...

The northeast wind has been radical the last couple of days here in SoCal. Shit happens. Get over it.

BUMBLE BEE ayon kay ...

But... the party of SCIENCE!

Robert Cook ayon kay ...

"25% of people illegally in the US cross the southern border."

So what you're saying is that 75% of illegal aliens in our country made egress somewhere else. My question is: why isn't that quisling Trump proposing we build a wall around the entire contiguous 48 states, encompassing all coastlines nakedly exposed to the sea, and the entire northern border, currently wall-less, barely keeping us safe from the commie Canucks?!

pacwest ayon kay ...

"My question is: why isn't that quisling Trump proposing we build a wall around the entire contiguous 48 states, encompassing all coastlines."

Actually he has proposed a "wall" to deal with the rest of the problem. Ports of entry. Visa overstays and anchor babies are the biggest problem, and he has tried but not done enough in that area. He needs a much stronger "wall", but the liberal courts are a setback. Congress needs to act.

Stupid question.

Ray - SoCal ayon kay ...

Trump is doing a layered approach to immigration, and it's working. I'm astonished he has made as much progress as he has on immigration, with the "Resistance".

Trump's Immigration Actions To Date:

1. Get Mexico to stop the caravans
2. Sign agreements with countries on first foot, for asylum.
3. Force immigration seekers to the US to stay in Mexico prior to hearings, instead of being released into the US, and disappearing.
4. Actually building a wall.
5. Enforce Immigration Requirements to stop instant public assistance for immigrants
6. Going after big employers legally, who hire illegal immigrants.

I would be interested to know more about why this section of the wall had issues. My guess was it was a pilings issue. It's hard to judge, since it was obviously a section of the wall in process. And I don't know what else was supposed to be done, and where it was in the process of being completed.

If eVerify was made mandatory for hiring, it would stop a huge amount of immigration, and it would help existing legal residences get jobs, especially African Americans.

Strange we are not hearing much about the Dreamers right now.

n.n ayon kay ...

7. Working with nations at risk to enact emigration reform.

n.n ayon kay ...

Raising "anchor" babies as one step to mitigate progress of immigration reform, and normalizing a civil policy of emigration reform. Raising babies (i.e. human rights) as a second step to mitigate progress that happens behind a wall, under a veil, at the Twilight Fringe.

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