"... as well as the many emotional labors of sex work. Every woman is expected or pressured in heterosexuality to do the labor that sex workers do, but not every woman is a sex worker. I think sex workers are strangely more equipped, though, to ponder the problem of romance, because we sell sex and love as our job, and have this strange distance and closeness with the theater of gender relations... Sex can be a vehicle for self-expression and it can be a theater; sex doesn’t have to be serious, and sex can be anything...."
From a New York Magazine interview with Rachel Rabbit White — "the writer, activist, and sex worker."
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116 comments:
I guess Rabbit needs three jobs because none of them pay very well.
more importantly;
Plenty of women to the work of waitresses, without trading polite attention for tips
A revival of sacred prostitution is long overdue.
Being pleasant and agreeable is such demanding labor!
Yet another treatise on that great subject: "Why I'm an Obnoxious Bitch! You can Be Too!"
Motherhood is the world's second oldest profession.
Rabbit? Really?
...the innate pressures of heterosexuality, or celibacy or homosexuality or.... whatever ya got.
If it’s work in a loving relationship then maybe you’re not doing it right.
Under the screws like a Rabbit theory, if the woman initiates sex, does that mean the man is doing the sex work for no capital exchange?
Let’s see, I do the plumbing work, the very basic electrical work, the landscaping work, the car work, the snow removal work, a substantial bit of the cooking, cleaning, and dog care work, plus the direct deposit of the paycheck into the joint checking account at the bank work — all for no capital exchange. Plus coming up with most of the jokes. Hard work and no pay. I must be a loser to have agreed to that. Have to go now and make coffee and cook my wife breakfast like I do every Saturday.
"Plenty of women do the work of food work without trading food for money or capital. The work of gustatory entertaining as well as the many emotional labors of food work. Every woman is expected or pressured in everysexuality to do the labor that food workers do, but not every woman is a food worker. I think food workers are strangely more equipped, though, to ponder the problem of nutirition, because we sell food and health as our job, and have this strange distance and closeness with the theater of comestible relations... Food can be a vehicle for self-expression and it can be a theater; food doesn’t have to be serious, and food can be anything...."
IOW, the prostitute who wrote the article thinks prostitution is Special, but it's really just another job.
Nice to read the ravings of a whore. Bill Clintoon might be interested in you
Begone, THOT!
THEOLDMAN
Holy crap! I am being way underpaid and cheated.
I do the work of a prostitute, short order cook, pastry cook, chef, dietician to my diabetic spouse, house cleaner, gardener, seamstress, decorator, secretary, bookkeeper and tax consultant. Sheesh. At least my kids are grown so I'm not an unpaid nanny anymore and I'm not working as a financial advisor either.
Maybe I should sue for back wages? Go on strike?
But then again, as Barry up thread says. My husband is being exploited for all sorts of other jobs that I can't do or would have to hire a plumber....hmmmm wonder how young and cute that plumber might be....but.....NEVERMIND. I digress.
If you consider the quid pro quo of a loving relationship as work or keep score on who is doing what and whether you are really really loving it or being exploited, I suggest you chuck it all and join a religious cult or become a nun.
Sound like Ms. Rabbit White was named by Yoda
I think it was a brilliant stroke for feminists to hand over the writing about sexual relationships to women who basically don’t like men and can’t imagine that any woman would.
"Every woman is expected or pressured...."
It used to be that standardized tests had idiot answers - any answer that contained all, always, never, was wrong and could dismissed without wasting time on it. I have to assume that they don't do that anymore?
Something tells me once all these personal things (sex, housework, smiling at other people) are monetized, these people still won’t be satisfied.
They won’t be happy in their personal lives (sex, relationships) or with the economy (selling sex and relationships)
In fact, they seem like empty people with bad ideas seeking mostly to control or be controlled
Liberation ain’t freedom, ya moron.
They forgot “filmmaker.” Everybody is a goddam “filmmaker.”
I’m beginning to think the prison system should hire a serial killer for those on death row. You could pay them a fraction of what it costs. And to keep the serial killer interested in the mundane work, set the death row inmate free and have the serial killer (s) work in commission, just like car salesmen (not that I’m equating car salesmen to serial killers...).
I really don’t know what is parody or real, anymore...
"They forgot “filmmaker.” Everybody is a goddam “filmmaker.”"
In a more literate era, the term of art was "unpublished fiction writer".
Nobody appreciates great art as much as the forger and counterfeiter do.
Plenty of men do the work of the gigolo without trading sex for money or capital.
"I think sex workers are strangely more equipped, though, to ponder the problem of romance, because we sell sex and love as our job..."
As I've noted before, the "women's pages" (yes, that's what they are) articles like this that you blog always look really familiar - because they are. They're endlessly recycled content from the 1960s. The "prostitutes have special insight into sexual relationships, because traditional (aka oppressive to women) male/female relations are really just prostitution, anyway" analysis never gets around to revealing any special insights - and it can't, because its one "insight" doesn't require doing "sex work" to attain, and there are people in other fields who have far more interesting things to say about it than hookers.
Over time the content has gotten more pretentious and larded with woke buzzwords, though.
I did the dishes, vacuumed, and took out the trash.
I want column inches to vent.
I’m a documentary filmmaker and performance artist, working with Seattle’s marginalized pigeon community, trying to wake people up to Global Climate Change.
****Also, please think about donating to HomelessSalmon.Org. A clean stream bed is all we ask, and if we become HomelessSalmon.Gov, we can do that much more good for the planet.
If BarrySanders20 and Dust Bunny Queen get together...
The whole world will be clean and well-fed!!
Your spouses both sound lucky.
Fun New Teen Vogue Quiz Helps Girls Find Out What Kind Of Hooker They Should Be
https://babylonbee.com/news/teen-vogue-publishes-controversial-what-kind-of-hooker-are-you-quiz
Boring.
"Sex can be a vehicle for self-expression and it can be a theatre..."
I think that makes me two narcissist's cancelled off-Broadway production.
Serious Question:
Shouldn't our Beloved Professor Althouse be posting her thing about how:
"If You EVER Have Sex With Your Partner, When You're Not IN THE MOOD... You're a WHORE!"
she used to post that quite frequently. Professor? Is this a test?
Ann Althouse said...
"My position is that people should only have sex when there is love in their hearts."
So a woman loves a man very much but does not want to have sex with him. He would enjoy sex with her if he didn't know she didn't want him sexually. She offers to give sex purely out of love, but truthfully says she does not like the sex itself. He loves her too. Should he accept her offer? I say no.
12/5/18, 7:04 AM
You would think that sex workers, what with their superior knowledge and technique, would go on to have happy, enduring marriages.
"Every woman is expected or pressured in heterosexuality to do the labor that sex workers do, but not every woman is a sex worker..."
I take this to mean that such expectations or pressure don't happen to women in lesbian relationships.
Like, there's never a time when one woman wants to just eat ice cream and watch TV, but her lesbian partner wants to scissor furiously.
That never happens.
If you're having to use a 12-inch urethane dildo to get the party going then at least one of the two is getting close to 'sex worker' territory.
And sex-worker carpal tunnel syndrome.
I am Laslo.
The victim cries out in anguish and you make light of her!
And sex-worker carpal tunnel syndrome.
sorta like this?
Employee Sues Ashley Madison
Why, compensation for carpal-tunnel syndrome, of course. Her job “required an enormous amount of keyboarding.” No doubt.
https://www.rocketlawyer.com/blog/ashley-madison-welcome-to-the-catfish-club-915655
Reducing yourself to an article of commerce to be sold and bought for the crass gratification of others is hardly empowering or dignifying.
What was interesting during the recent hearing before the D.C. Council on whether to legalize prostitution in the District was how the vast majority of advocates were from the trans community -- almost entirely men who wanted to sell themselves to others as women.
And they not only wanted to legalize the marketing of human flesh for the persons being sold, but for their pimps too. They wanted to legalize an industry where sex discrimination in the workplace was an endorsed feature, not a wrongful act.
So a man loves a woman very much but does not want to support her financially. She doesn't really give a shit what he wants. He offers to provide support purely out of love, but truthfully says he does not like doing so. She loves him too. Should she accept his offer?
I’m a documentary filmmaker and performance artist,
Well, I'm a scholar and a philosopher! Just like everyone else.
How bizarre: wives area mimic of a whore. This is exactly wrong, like saying that a woman's lover is a mimic of her cuckold of a husband.
Trust me on this, it takes lots of effort, smarts, creative ability and plain stubbornness to write a 106 page script. Selling it is even harder.
We gone from our identity is our sex organ to our identity is what we do with our sex organ. Progress
I think it was a brilliant stroke for feminists to hand over the writing about sexual relationships to women who basically don’t like men and can’t imagine that any woman would.
Do feminists do anything else ? I thought that was their role in life.
"sex can be anything"
These days, anything can be anything. Gender can be anything. The Constitution can be anything. You name it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUxmV-eh3vE
and sex can be anything....
And whores who deliver anything other than actual sex don't get paid.
Rabbit-writing motivated by rabbit-thinking is mighty thin.
I often wonder how much my services are worth to women. I really should stop giving it away for free.
Every woman is expected or pressured in heterosexuality to do the labor that sex workers do, but not every woman is a sex worker.
She lets lesbians off the hook. Lesbian sex is pure fun? That sounds like a myth ready to be debunked.
I think sex workers are strangely more equipped, though, to ponder the problem of romance, because we sell sex and love as our job, and have this strange distance and closeness with the theater of gender relations... Sex can be a vehicle for self-expression and it can be a theater; sex doesn’t have to be serious, and sex can be anything
Two more old stereotypes: a whore is any woman who likes sex "too much," and prostitutes eventually come to hate men and hate having sex with them. The first is long since discredited and discarded. I don't know about the second.
I think that makes me two narcissist's cancelled off-Broadway production.
I spewed coffee over everything, dammit.
You owe me a new keyboard, Crack.
Speaking of whores --
The Washington Post also has up today an editorial about how Ralph "Coonman" Northam -- the black-faced, moon-dancing Democrat governor of Virginia who either wore Klansmen outfits or associated with such folks -- has survived being a blatant racist, and one that is clueless about his deep-seated racism. How? By pushing a lot of progressive causes.
And in response, the Dems who had rather lamely called for his resignation promptly whored themselves and their principles to go along with him instead.
” I think sex workers are strangely more equipped, though, to ponder the problem of romance, because we sell sex and love as our job, and have this strange distance and closeness with the theater of gender relations... Sex can be a vehicle for self-expression and it can be a theater; sex doesn’t have to be serious, and sex can be anything...."
How about you stop overthinking things and get those damned clothes off?
"the writer, activist, and sex worker."
You lost me at 'activist'. They are all hyphenated activists these days. They must be taught that in their schools. Whatever else you do, you must be an 'activist'.
Tedious and vapid.
Whatever happened to "a labor of love"?
Whores, like this woman, aren’t just paid for sex, they are paid to leave after the act is completed as well. Whoring is transactional, being a loving spouse is a lifelong partnership. To compare the two is to be of diminished intelligence, emotional and intellectual.
and what about the SWERF's ?
I think sex workers are strangely more equipped, though, to ponder the problem of romance, because we sell sex and love as our job, and have this strange distance and closeness with the theater of gender relations...
No. Sex workers are, by and large, damaged goods.
She looks like someone who dressed up for a costume party as some stereotypical image of a whore.
And then she had to go and spoil that by being an actual whore!
Sex workers “sell love?”
Who knew?
Are you ready for the sex work?
The hot, hot, lean, hot, big hot work
Are you ready for the sex work?
The right, right, ultra-tight nice-nice work
"I am a pessimist about romance and yet, like maybe all of us, romance still has a grip on me. I do think that romance, like all things is tainted by capitalism."
Sounds like Titiana McGrath to me.
Sounds like this was coauthored by Velvet Jones. Women - find independence through prostitution!
Leftists will wreck sex just like they wrecked the universities, the media, Hollywood, etc, etc.
I think sex workers have coarsened that which is a beautiful expression of intimacy, admiration and love.
Get ready for imminent moderation.
Honestly ladies, the modern relationship deal has become overwhelming one-sided in your direction. Men are expected to do all they ever did plus a bunch of new stuff we really do not like and is not our nature. At the same time, you are now free to take our traditional jobs and our places in all the best roles if you want, and even get preferred treatment at robbing us of those things that gave us purpose and identity. After accepting that bad deal with you, you can now leave us at any moment for any reason and take half our stuff with you. You can accuse us of all manner of atrocities and be believed with no evidence, sending us to jail or professional ruin. Then we have to listen to our culture tell us that everything you do is heroic and everything about us is toxic. Now cry me a damn river about your modern plight, which you wanted, designed, and fight for everyday with no resistance from anyone. It really must be horrible for you.
I wish all I had to do was give you sex for that deal, because I could do that without much effort, and if I was the woman and you the man, it would be an order of magnitude easier for me.
New york is a useless magazine isnt it,
"LIke with mass civil shootings.
We are surprised when they occur, when we live in warring times when America advertised she could solve her domestic problems with overseas violence, imposing democracy not with knowledge and logic, but guns and violence. The children in the schools learn that"
Well. It is how we got here.
And just to be clear. Yes I am paying you for sex. I'm also paying you to leave afterwards. Not really interested in your opinions. I'll call you if I need you. Cheers.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
Holy crap! I am being way underpaid and cheated.
I do the work of a prostitute, short order cook, pastry cook, chef, dietician to my diabetic spouse, house cleaner, gardener, seamstress, decorator, secretary, bookkeeper and tax consultant. Sheesh. At least my kids are grown so I'm not an unpaid nanny anymore and I'm not working as a financial advisor either.
WIFE: Wash Iron Fuck Etcetera
Money makes women horny.
You lost me at 'activist'.
Sometimes they are 'influencers', however; those are synonymous terms apart from the fact that 'influencers' are by definition meant to derive a certain income from their activism.
Napoleon was wrong about his mother.
Laslo: I thought you were supposed to save the 12 inch urethane dildo for last (delayed gratification).
Don’t sex workers who are strangely equipped get to charge more?
Sex can be a vehicle for self-expression
dreck.
Speaking of sluts and pole dancers...
Maddow Meltdown: In Defense To OAN Lawsuit, Host Argues Her Words Are Not Facts
DavidUW said...
I often wonder how much my services are worth to women. I really should stop giving it away for free.
********************
Agreed. How many men have thought, "I really ought to monetize my sexual magnetism."
(or weaponize it.)
Kinda odd that not a single bit of her poetry was included.
Monistat Seven Day
Goddess of mixing
unroot my chakras
I ask for help
What happens to an unused altar
to deities forgotten, called up
in times of desperation
A naked woman kneels
one foot on the ground
one in the water
pouring water back into water
what kind of an offering is that?
*
wake up at noon
teeth gritty
pussy itchy
and wonder
what kind of alchemy
I’ll need to perform
Diflucan
Metronidazole
Boric Acid
my eternal flow
my eternal pussy
I guess I was supposed
to light a candle
and make the sex I have
seem more dangerous
as in fun
Conjure the goddess
in a midtown hotel
all business / no minibar
create an offering
of instant coffee
and gel douche
*
The last time
I dated a rich man
he wanted a spell
his loft covered
in pink and red
flickering
But just short
of incantation
the flow of petals
from one vessel
to another
he stopped and said
I just can’t
get into this
I remind myself
that a spell
is an interlude
and a charm
is all I
do
I guess
I knew then
the only answer is
never again
*
Make alchemy from concealer
and adderall, sleep, stretch,
go back to bed
I’m a bad boy
and that’s why
I need
a female deity
for when I have
to lift my pussy
to the heavens
raise it
to the divine
As if it were ever
more than a setting
turned to safety mode
a chakra
to be block/unblocked
mechanically
2 more at shitwonder.com
is this the author?
... is this her excuse??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr2ZERIFL4U
An argument for public smoothing functions (e.g. welfare) for heterosexual and transgender relationships, but why stop with people? Animals are people, too.
This is the same apologetic theme used for [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] global cooling... warming... change. Adjusting for what we know, what we think we know, then what remains must be the truth. A weak argument, but plausible.
Also an apology for exoneration rites.
J. Farmer said... [hush][hide comment]
I think sex workers are strangely more equipped, though, to ponder the problem of romance, because we sell sex and love as our job, and have this strange distance and closeness with the theater of gender relations...
No. Sex workers are, by and large, damaged goods.
Most prostitution is not a Pretty Woman movie.
In my long life I have noticed that in most long-term relationships the partners pretty much deserve each other, but there are also an awful lot of relationships where one partner who seems lucky to be with the other partner.
When I think about it it seems that, in the relationships where one partner seems luckier than the other, it is 50/50 with the man being the lucky partner half the time and the woman being the lucky partner half the time. And, over the years, in most of those relationships, things even out over time.
But really who knows the details of any one else's life? For example, there is the question of asymmetrical kneecaps ---
(asymmetrical kneecaps) is a reference to an early internet meme - apparently some poor slob wrote that a certain actress might look pretty but she had asymmetrical kneecaps, and the slob was mocked for years as an obvious gamma male for thinking that such a thing could make a difference to a man with a normal level of testosterone.
It does seem that the term "activist" is being used rather generously these days. To my ear, it's a euphemism for someone who doesn't have a job.
(asymmetrical kneecaps) is a reference to an early internet meme - apparently some poor slob wrote that a certain actress might look pretty but she had asymmetrical kneecaps, and the slob was mocked for years as an obvious gamma male for thinking that such a thing could make a difference to a man with a normal level of testosterone.
Pretty funny. There used to be a commenter here who explained why he did not date "women from America". I forget who and the reasoning but the same guy also had an asymmetrical kneecap reason for not dating while in college..
"I think sex workers are strangely more equipped, though, to ponder the problem of romance, because we sell sex and love as our job/"
No you don't sell love. You are selling your body and a service Your market is the most self centered, debased, cruel and ugly.
This job debases you. And until you leave, you may never know true love, charity, kindness... of grace.
In fact, This article is nothing more then an advertisement for your industry.
"Every woman is expected or pressured in heterosexuality to do the labor that sex workers do, but not every woman is a sex worker. I think sex workers are strangely more equipped, though, to ponder the problem of romance,"
Their perspective is skewed, which is why one of them might believe that first sentence. Normal, non-bought sex does not have this rigid woman-give-man-receive dynamic. If anything, sex workers are specially unfit to tell others much of anything about romance.
To my ear, it's a euphemism for someone who doesn't have a job.
Oh, they, "sex workers", have a job, albeit trans-social. There is a market for prostitution, pornography, et al.
Normal, non-bought sex does not have this rigid woman-give-man-receive dynamic
Exactly. Equal in rights and complementary in nature. As mature human beings, we reconcile. Sometimes more (e.g. pregnancy). Sometimes less (e.g. household tasks).
If sex can be anything, then anything can be sex. Not sure I'm ready to go that far.
You know the advice about using your left hand to beat off, "cause it feels like someone else"?
Narr
Only works for a while
On Beta Colony (supposedly settled by Americans) in Vorkosiverse there are LPST ==>> Licensed Practical Sexuality Therapist.
Is this author precursor?
I knew a gal in college who, thinking back on it, must have been a sex worker intern...
Walter @12:25pm...
and another...
oh homely loser
your loneliness
I bathe in
and drink
that purple rash
and hellish burning sensation
consider it the
fucking you get
for the fucking you got
I wonder if she's related to Crusader Rabbit?
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/12/the-week-in-pictures-year-end-clearance-edition.php
At the linked article Ms Rabbit is quoted as saying "I do think that romance, like all things is tainted by capitalism." That seems to be a fey pronouncement to me. What her understanding of "capitalism" may be is quite unclear. How does capitalism "taint" all things. Does she mean that capitalism is, like gravity, every present in all human activity? I would agree with that. But "taint" seems to be negative, like "stain", rather than "inherent" that is more neutral and potentially positive.
"Plenty of women do the work of sex work without trading sex for money or capital. The work of sexual entertaining..."" could be applied to this blog
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Gilbar, you asked for it.
Now, women want it all.
To have a mother career AND put the child's needs behind her own outside-provider career
This is the fallacy, the big lie that has been fed to young women. Promising that you can have it all. All on your own. The truth is that you have to give up some things in order to get others. Always. Every single day.
You can't have it all. No one can. You can have some of those things...motherhood, a career, happy family. ....BUT even so and most importantly you can't have it all, all at once. Maybe one at a time. Maybe a couple at a time. Maybe not any at all.
Choose which is most important. It is your choice as to what path you take. And remember you can't go back and UNchoose if you realize you made a mistake. Especially when it comes to having or not having children. Now...there are other people in the mix and not just your own selfish self. Children. Spouses.
Feeding young women this lie only serves to make them unhappy with their lives. Feel inadequate when the reality strikes.
An entire industry defined by two words:
Daddy Issues.
Most teen aged boys could do the job of a sex worker with one hand tied behind their back.
Why the euphemisms? I thought in the rough, tough, 21st Century, where NO ONE is a prude, we call a spade a spade. Sex worker = prostitute = whore. She fucks for cash.
Anyway, I have nothing against whores. Most of them are just lazy and amoral. But once again, its not enough to TOLERATE, we have to CELEBRATE. CF: Gays, lesbians, trannies, Queers, and in the future: polygamists.
The fact that every human interaction involves some kind of exchange is a pretty flimsy excuse for literally making all your relationships transactional. And no, doing so doesn't confer any unique insights on non-transactional relationships. Quite the opposite: you probably wouldn't know a non-transactional relationship if one reared up and bit you on the ass (for which you'd charge $50).
DBQ nails it
It's not work if you're good at it.
Also, I always say "you're welcome" at the sweaty end.
Because I'm a gentleman.
>>But once again, its not enough to TOLERATE, we have to CELEBRATE. CF: Gays, lesbians, trannies, Queers, and in the future: polygamists.
I'm just guessing, but I don't think the lefties will ever celebrate Utah, Old Testament style polygamy.
They will invent a new kind, or redefine it to something they can celebrate.
And if you don't celebrate it, too, they will come after you for making them feel "unsafe".
Like the guy who wants white guys to keep killing themselves, the choice is always the same: Submit to us, the enlightened ones, or die.
Rationalization.
She(?) isn't really trying to connect with the reader. She's apologizing to herself!!
motherhood, a career, happy family
It's like writing software. Fast, cheap, or on schedule. Pick any two.
Or, as my dear departed father was want to say on this and similar subjects: "All men want a whore with a heart of gold."
Then he would smile and say sagely, "Lots of luck with that one."
Daniel, your father was probably a good guy but he was wrong.
On the whore part, not the heart of gold part.
Just saying, don't take it wrong.
@Full Moon - I may or may not be who you are thinking of - I don’t date women from societies that have been ruined by feminism and I have articulated my reasons - but I never paid any attention to a woman’s kneecaps.
Even if you could have it all, it wouldn't be enough. Pick something easy or really valuable to you. If your'e lucky it will be the same thing.
You shut yer whore mouth, Rachel Rabbit!
Just kiddin’...
David Begley said...I guess Rabbit needs three jobs because none of them pay very well.
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D.A.R.E.
(drugs are really expensive)
Any halfway good-looking young girl can get a job as a jizzbucket.
Narr
I almost said 'halfway decent-looking'
the lefties will ever celebrate Utah, Old Testament style polygamy. They will invent a new kind, or redefine it to something they can celebrate.
They will through a judiciously crafted euphemism from the Twilight fringe.
The Old Testament served as a historical record and warning for future generations.
Friendship with "benefits", womb banks, sperm donors, and reproductive rites to exonerate mistakes.
Oso Negro said...
@Full Moon - I may or may not be who you are thinking of - I don’t date women from societies that have been ruined by feminism and I have articulated my reasons - but I never paid any attention to a woman’s kneecaps.
Nope. Some other guy who changes his name frequently.
When I was in about the ninth grade, some other moron was talking about how hot some girl was and what he'd do with her etc etc and I said, "Yeah, but she's not very pretty if you ask me."
He looked at me pityingly and said, "You don't fuck the face!"
"I do," I lied. (That had to wait a few years.)
Nighty-night lads and lasses. I just noticed a little garbage can icon on my posts--that must be how comments are deleted!
Narr
What a notion
Any relation to Jessica Rabbit?
Her 176 page $18 book of poetry is described (by the publicist) as "the bedevilments of a gay bitch on the pole" and also "in the tradition of Edna St. Vincent Millay."
She "braids lumpen poetry and luxury communism," "struggles at the margins," and "violently rejects the normalized oppression of the status quo."
How do the marxists pay for so much plastic surgery?
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