"The protesters accused Mayor [Patricia] Arce of having bussed in supporters of the president to try and break a blockade they had set up and blamed her for the reported deaths [of two opposition protesters]... Amid shouts of 'murderess, murderess' masked men dragged her through the streets barefoot to the bridge. There, they made her kneel down, cut her hair and doused her in red paint. They also forced her to sign a resignation letter."
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६९ टिप्पण्या:
Is anyone blaming Game of Thrones?
This couldn't be one of those s***hole countries Trump was talking about, could it?
We have much to learn from these superior non-American cultures.
google news search [Mayor Patricia Arce] = this incident not covered by any US.MSM on the first two pages of results. (or any pages...?)
"to try and break a blockade"
Try and put that in the past tense.
I want really badly to be outraged by this but somehow it tickles my ass pink.
With due respect to the "we're better than that here" bit: I don't want anyone to do anything like that to certain crooked politicians here - you know, of the party that breeds crooked politicians hand over fist - but like that obituary quote, I could probably enjoy reading about that very thing happening.
Sorry, but that's where they have taken us.
Well, I know what you're trolling for, so here goes...
Just like Democrats in the age of Trump!
Not that it isn't true...
Now do Bill de Blasio.
Gee, I sure hope we can import some of these civilized, modern, totally fit for life in an advanced Western democracy folks. Open borders!
When this starts happening in Portland or NYC or Chicago, I will care.
From a birds eye view the various governments of South America and Central America always seem like burning car wrecks to me. They all seem rife with corruption, horrible missmanagement, narco terrorism, economic misery, and rampant bad ideas. They also seem to be punctuated by bloody revolutions periodically. These revolutions only seem to replace corrupt leadership with more corrupt leadership, exchanging tin pot dictators with Socialist Kleptocrats with honeyed words and promises of justice for indigenous peoples or other repressed minority or ethnic group.
Maybe my assessment is too harsh?
"That's what happens when you live 10 years alone in Bolivia: you get colorful"
Venezuela V.2?
Could use some of that democracy around certain US cities.
Do you mean to tell me there's another country where putting the right Socialists in charge didn't work out. I'm starting to get discouraged we'll ever find just the right Socialists.
Sounds like the lefties are rigging elections to avoid stepping down.
How is this Trump's fault? I mean, it MUST BE? Right?
Purplepenguin? ARM? help me out! How is this Trump's fault?
Chavezmo is burning down. Morales was a pal of Chavez. Not doing well.
Giving Antifa and Adam Schitt and our FBI and CIA ideas.
Opposition did not like results of Presidential election.
Blockades,assault, violence, burning and breaking property.
Can't happen here. Because we are better than that.
I lived in Bolivia for a year. It's a beautiful place and when I was there (a few years now), it was overall a very safe place, even for a foreigner. But it is the poorest country in South America, and its government has been isolationist and anti-Western for quite some time. The President has been showing his corrupt colors slowly over the course of two terms (he's now in his third term, which wasn't supposed to happen until he amended the constitution).
Despite how horrible this story is, the one upside I see is that Bolivians do not like tyrants and will fight against corruption. They love to protest and riot until they get their way--I saw protests frequently when I was there. Historically, these uprisings have resulted in ousting leaders (the last president was kicked out of the country in this manner), so perhaps they'll succeed in giving Morales the boot.
Unfortunately, it rarely leads to actually competent, quality leadership taking its place, but... What can you do?
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
When this starts happening in Portland or NYC or Chicago, I will care.
Trump Chicago rally ccancelled due to massive violence and safety concerns
Try and put that in the past tense.
Brits are the worst writers.
I'm still blessed to be a Citizen of the USA.
"They also forced her to sign a resignation letter"
Constructive consent
Is it bad that I laughed at Ann's tag of "Hairstyles"?
"hairstyles" LOL There's some dark humor.
Blogger Birkel said...When this starts happening in Portland or NYC or Chicago, I will care.
11/7/19, 11:00 AM
It's already starting in Portland!
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/state-police-to-pull-out-of-oregon-state-after-being-attacked-over-arrest-youre-on-your-own-now/
I predict that when Trump wins re-election in 2020, similar things will begin happening here.
Rick said...
I'm starting to get discouraged we'll ever find just the right Socialists.
I'm Sure our comrade Cookie; can explain to us, about how; The Problem IS:
These people weren't TRUE Socialists. That What's needed are people like Stalin, or Mao
(or, maybe Pol Pot?)
Even THOSE people would have problems though, right Cookie? What's needed is People willing to Go ALL THE WAY
Re Darrell: I'll see your Bill DiBlasio and raise you a Phil Murphy and Gurbir Grewal.
The tag oddity is just a result of my endless fight against tag proliferation. “Hairstyles” is just the form my tag for “hair” originally took. It was found humor that I could have actively censored but decided to let go.
Try and put that in the past tense.
Better yet, try not to write like 12-year-old suburban white kids talk.
Antifa all jealous and slamming their bedroom doors.
Purplepenguin? ARM? help me out! How is this Trump's fault?
I never said it was. In fact, I didn't even comment in this thread...nor any threads on this blog for the past couple days.
Yet you decided to call me out by name...in a thread I hadn't even commented on...for something I never said anywhere.
Your infatuation with me is weird & childish, not to mention built on false premises. Nice trifecta ya got going on there.
Hmm--was Little Adam Schiff behind this Bolivian incident? It looks like Schiff style impeachment--rough people up and throw a lot of mud--and or red paint.
Dark humor is like Venezuelan food.
Or Bolivian food, I guess.
In Nathaniel Philbrick's "Bunker Hill" he describes at least one time a prominent leader in Boston was dragged out of his house at night, tarred and feathered, and paraded around town. IIRC, Samuel Adams was often in the middle, an instigator even, of these sorts of event.
250 years ago, but still...
Chilean police officers set on fire by Molotov cocktails thrown by protesters
https://www.foxnews.com/world/chile-police-molotov-cocktails-fire
Better red than dead.
The world would be improved by much more of this.
It could have been worse. In other parts, she would have been disarmed, decapitated, and aborted in a frenzy of planned people... persons.
Blogger Birkel said...When this starts happening in Portland or NYC or Chicago, I will care.
11/7/19, 11:00 AM
It's already starting in Portland!
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/state-police-to-pull-out-of-oregon-state-after-being-attacked-over-arrest-youre-on-your-own-now/
Corvallis but one of the lefty college towns in OR. The rest of the state is red.
Coming to a democrat led city near you. Heh
so it turns out the protests in chile, had to do with a carbon tax, increasing the cost of tram fares, in the above link, even a former Pinochet pinera, isn't entirely immune to this idiocy,
Yawn. Let me know when it happens to de Blasio, who undoubtedly deserves it more.
Hillary got off easy, so far.
Bolivia has always been, shall we say, a bit rowdy in its conduct of public life. The Argentine cartoonist Landrú had a cartoon from the coup-of-the-month era with this caption: "The problem with Bolivia isn't anarchy : the problem is anarchy in the military." The point here is that even the military was susceptible to the anarchic trend in Bolivia. Roadblocks against Morales today. Years ago, when Morales was head of the coca grower's association, Morales led roadblocks.
In 2007, Morales couldn't get the two thirds majority required for a draft of a new Constitution. He got it- by locking the opposition out of the hall.
Here is the way Evo plays soccer- by kneeing an opponent in the groin.Bolivian President's Low Blow.
I suspect that there was fraud, given Evo's track record.
Blogger Nonapod said...
From a birds eye view the various governments of South America and Central America always seem like burning car wrecks to me. They all seem rife with corruption, horrible missmanagement, narco terrorism, economic misery, and rampant bad ideas. They also seem to be punctuated by bloody revolutions periodically. These revolutions only seem to replace corrupt leadership with more corrupt leadership, exchanging tin pot dictators with Socialist Kleptocrats with honeyed words and promises of justice for indigenous peoples or other repressed minority or ethnic group.
Maybe my assessment is too harsh?
I think you’re spot-on.
A beautiful country. It’s like Africa, but in South America, it’s a deep-dive. Has to be driven around for a month or two. This and Guatemala (out in the country) are the old/remaining cultural core of north and south. Of the broad cultural global groups, you can argue all kinds of preferences to visit, but these stick with me in the top tier of good worldwide experiences. Get a Carnet de Passages, ready a Toyota like this guy (is not me) and go. eurasiaoverland,com. Mockturtle is half way there.
@RichardJohnson
All the more reason to go. I’m in a post-election 3rd world country now that’s about to arrest its previous president, imo, and I’m hanging around to see what happens. Elections are a good time to visit sketchy places.
Chile is a wonderful country. As are PARTS of Peru. But you have to be careful.
purplepenguin: "Yet you decided to call me out by name...in a thread I hadn't even commented on...for something I never said anywhere."
Strange.
Is this any worse than you call out Brett Kavanaugh by name for gang rapes he never committed?
BTW, did you ever apologize for those lies?
Is this any worse than you call out Brett Kavanaugh by name for gang rapes he never committed?
I've never said anything of the sort...on this blog or anywhere else.
You're either intentionally trolling or a total 'tard. Either way, it's obvious you're not someone one should take seriously.
WisRich said...
Is it bad that I laughed at Ann's tag of "Hairstyles"?
Freeman Hunt said...
"hairstyles" LOL There's some dark humor.
This handbasket sure is crowded...
Mr. Groovington
@RichardJohnson: All the more reason to go.
No disagreement from me. While Bolivia's political behavior has always been sketchy, another commenter accurately pointed out that petty crime is low. I would fear for my life nowadays in Venezuela and also be rather wary in parts of Mexico or Central America, but not have such apprehension in Bolivia. Polar Pure should take care of potable water issues.
I enjoyed my time in Bolivia as tourist and as employee in the oil field.
if you remember quantum of solace, it offers a villainous twist on the policies, regarding water that preceded morales, the president is a thinly disguised hugo banzer, who had overthrown the leftist regime in 1970, a successor regime was that of Gomez meza, in 1980, that was fictionalized to a degree, in scarface, a regrettable film in many respects, about 30 years later, banzer had come back to challenge leftist movements,
I wrote a paper about Chilean politics, in college, largely the influence of the Chicago boys, and copy cat regimes, in argentina, like menem which didn't fare so well,
back in 1967, che had been disappointed over the lack of revolutionary sentiment, about 40 years later, there was enough of a perfect storm to put morales in power,
the 1980 coup was known as the cocaine coup, because the largest benefactor was Robert suarez, an inporter of the leading informal export,
leading informal product, that wasn't tin, I remember that from Eduardo galeanos, the local version of howard zinn, who admitted he had gotten somethings wrong in his screed open veins,
narciso
back in 1967, che had been disappointed over the lack of revolutionary sentiment..
Gary Prado, an officer in the Bolivian Army group that captured Che, pointed out to Che that because Bolivians had their own revolution in 1952- land to peasants and tin mining nationalized- Bolivians saw no need for another revolution. A further irony about Che's "revolution" in Bolivia is that a lot of Bolivians view Argentines as arrogant SOBs. As such, any "revolution" that an Argentine leads in Bolivia is close to being doomed to failure. As Georgie Ann Geyer put it in her autobiography, Buying the Night Flight, "They (Bolivians) made him the stranger."
I once attended a screening of a movie on Che. The film had some beautiful cinema-photography. The filmmaker, an Argentine who taught at a junior college in New Jersey, was available for questions after the screening. One viewer pointed out it was rather absurd for the film to have someone claim that Che's execution constituted a violation of his human rights, given the several thousand that Che had executed when he was jail master in Cuba. The filmmaker replied that the Cuban trials were done according to law. That they were kangaroo courts with preordained verdicts didn't register with the filmmaker.
I pointed out to the filmmaker the absurdity of having an Argentine lead a revo in Argentina, given the rather negative opinions that most Bolivians have of Argentines. I told a Bolivian joke to illustrate this. The joke got a laugh from the audience- Judas identified by his Argentine speech. The filmmaker replied, "Let's change the subject."
This town had an Evo-supporting mayor, but enough oppo to lynch her. It sounds like a town split down the middle. I would be interested to find out how the vote went in this town. My money is on the mayor and her team padding the vote count for Evo.
this probably goes on the other thread,
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=mexican+mormon+war&&view=detail&mid=CB61BD7481561F63D53FCB61BD7481561F63D53F&&FORM=VRDGAR
The lefty rag, The Nation, discusses the issue of fraud.Bolivian Ballot Boxes Are Burning.
The Nation says that there are currently no indications of fraud in the balloting.
Political analysts say that despite the emergence of serious questions about the electoral process, there is currently no compelling evidence that the Morales administration committed fraud. “It’s not clear yet if there was fraud or if it was a very messy or mismanaged process,” Calla Hummel, a political scientist at the University of Miami, who is currently based in La Paz, told me. Three other experts I spoke to echoed this position of uncertainty.
I would point out that rural areas, the big supporters of Evo, were the last to turn in their ballots. We all know how late returns can be fraudulent. Landslide Johnson in South Texas, and Hizonnah Da Mayor "with a little help from your friends" Daley in 1960.
The biggest fraud issue, The Nation points out, is that Evo lost a referendum in 2016 over extending term limits, but still ran for office.
The bigger issue, however, is that many Bolivians feel Morales’s decision to run in the first place was an act of antidemocratic fraud. Despite losing a referendum in 2016 over extending constitutional term limits, he chose to run anyway, after getting sign-off from a politically sympathetic court. He’s been in power for almost 14 years—and if he does ultimately stay on for another term, he will have spent about two decades as president.
“Even if this fraud thing falls apart, I don’t know if people who are protesting against the results will accept the results, because there’s so much mistrust in…the whole electoral process,” Jorge Derpic, a sociologist at the University of Georgia, told me.
The Nation points out there was an inexplicable delay of some 24 hours in posting results. Before the delay, Morales was ahead by only 7 points. He needed to be ahead by 10 points to avoid a runoff. After the 24 hour delay, Morales was ahead by 10 points and thus didn't need a runoff. Morales had big support in the rural areas, which reported late. So, it is possible that the 24 hour delay made no difference. But why the delay? Sounds like Chicago or South Texas to me.
Some countries are not like other countries. Shocked, I tell you.
I'm Sure our comrade Cookie; can explain to us, about how; The Problem IS:
These people weren't TRUE Socialists.
Florida Man Cookie will cobble together some word salad that sounds like a twelve year old who just had an awakening reading Chomsky and then he'll remind us he lives in New York.
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