Said Jimmy Wales, quoted in
"Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales launches Twitter and Facebook rival/Wikipedia co-founder says WT:Social is effort to combat ‘clickbait’" (Financial Times).
While Facebook and Twitter’s algorithms ensure that the posts with the most comments or likes rise to the top, WT:Social puts the newest links first. However, WT:Social hopes to add an “upvote” button that will allow users to recommend quality stories....
Several well-meaning alternatives to Facebook have come and gone over the years, from Ello to Diaspora.... But Mr Wales said he believes the time is now right for a new venue that is free from what he calls “clickbait nonsense”.
“People are feeling fed up with all the junk that’s around,” Mr Wales said. “News organisations are doing the best they can in this difficult environment but it’s actually a problem with the distribution.”
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the site:
We will empower you to make your own choices about what content you are served, and to directly edit misleading headlines, or flag problem posts.
We will foster an environment where bad actors are removed because it is right, not because it suddenly affects our bottom-line.
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Well imagine that!
While Facebook and Twitter’s algorithms ensure that the posts with the most comments or likes rise to the top, WT:Social puts the newest links first. However, WT:Social hopes to add an “upvote” button that will allow users to recommend quality stories....
Haven’t people been trained to believe quality stories are the ones they like?
Yeah, “Don’t be evil.” We have heard that one before.
Hilariously, the article is behind a paywall.
This will fail.
Wait wait wait wait... I thought it was impossible to complete with Twitter and Facebook with you people bleating pleading and whining for Unka Sugar to regulate those successful free market businesses.
There are six syllables in the name WT:Social. If you're going to abbreviate something into a punchy, appealing acronym you need one syllable letters. You don't use a W. It doesn't work if the acronym takes just as long to enunciate as the full word. Wikitribune...WT. See what I mean? And there's 2 more syllables to go after that. Who has time for that? Stupid name. Wake up, Boomer.
OK, I joined, and the subreddits look like the Slate Star Codex reddit. E.G. Science and Society, ADHD Adults, Artificial Intelligence... Yeah, um...
Oh, now it tells me I'm number 83 thousand on a waiting list. OK... No news for me, then.
Have a nice life, WT:Social.
If you want your new social media platform to work you need the users to sell it for you. You need a name that, when someone hears it, they want to say it, because it sounds cool and sounds like something cool you want to know more about, something you want to be the one tell someone else about because they'll think you're cool. WT:Social? Seriously? I already lost interest before you even got to the colon.
This will not turned out as planned.
Only a couple billion more users and you’re in business!
What's the first thing you hear from somebody telling you about WT:Social? "Duh"
The fact that a founder of Wikipedia is involved doesn't fill me with gladness and hope. Wikipedia is all about obsessive/compulsive people getting into positions of power so that they can regulate speech. Just like social media.
Hard to beat Reddit as a form of social media. Somehow they have made the internet 'nice'.
"bad actors are removed because it is right"
I think I found the flaw in the model.
Not seeing why it is better than or even different than Reddit.
We will foster an environment where bad actors are removed because it is right, not because it suddenly affects our bottom-line.
So, yet another effort in the twilight battle to purge the internet of non-woke content by creating a "safe space" that will hopefully expand and devour any heretical social media outposts.
“News organisations are doing the best they can in this difficult environment...
Speechless.
People like clickbait. That's why it works.
[Bad] algorithms ... most comments or likes rise to the top,...
WT:Social hopes to add an “upvote” button ...quality stories....
Because an "upvote" button is completely different than a "like" button.
We will foster an environment where bad actors are removed because it is right, not because it suddenly affects our bottom-line.
I'd prefer censorship based on money rather than hurt feelings.
We have found the bad actors and they is us.
They’d kick me off if I joined. I’ll save a few steps...
I’m one of those bad actors
If you like NPR, you're gonna love WT:Zzzzzzz....huh? Oh. Sorry. I was saying...what was I saying?
Just block all ads. Don’t put them up there, for us to have to block them. Of course, the ‘how do you pay for it’ question comes up, and then it goes back to good ads vs bad ads....
Having spent many years now streaming on demand, having to look at TV with ads, I realize how horrible the whole experience is.
The only reason social media exists is to make money off people: literally (!) none of these people pushing a better user experience are altruistic.
Of course, the ‘how do you pay for it’ question comes up
Hey! I gotta idea. Single payer social media! What's Warren's number? Ima call her.
Just have a censorship on or off button and let people choose individually. Like safe search on or off as it is now. Twitter and facebook could do it now.
"bad actors are removed because it is right..."
Or because THEY are on the right...
SJWs never sleep.
New motto, just as neutral as Wiki.
Just have a censorship on or off button and let people choose individually.
That takes all the fun out of being the censor.
“We have found the bad actors and they is us.”
LOL
"The business model of television media companies, of pure advertising, is problematic. It turns out the huge winner is low-quality content."
fify!
The nobility to which all of these social media and tech company people ascribe to themselves is based on the complete, pure knowledge that they are right and good. That those who think differently are not right and good. So they must continuously work to filter out those who are not right and good. For the good of all. They do it out of the goodness of their own pure hearts.
Or, as Mel Brooks once said...
We're starting a new social media platform, because people demand more censorship. Yes, it's expensive, but we have Chinese and Qatari investors willing to step up to further free speech in America.
"I'm thinking about trying that new platform, you know, the one with the fucked-up name that sounds like some old boomer rambling on and on?"
"Yeah, I heard about that. Supposed to be, like, I don't know the word, like...it's like good for you or something."
"What? Like Michelle's school lunches? Yuck."
"Yeah, sorta I guess. They don't allow posts from like school shooters and Nazis and stuff."
"Here something...Doubleyou Te...Oh look a squirrel video!"
Anybody who has been in an editing war on Wikipedia will know just how effective this project will be. Squads of SJWs will ensure that bad actors are shown the door. The polished veneer of incontestable virtue is vomit-inducing. Oops! There’s a chunk just thinking on it.
Scratch a leftie, and there’s a tyrant screaming to get out.
- Krumhorn
here's an example, no crimethink permitted,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Marie_Yovanovitch
Somehow they have made the internet 'nice'.
Althouse and Mead are doing a pretty good job too.
here's an example, no crimethink permitted,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Marie_Yovanovitch
Anyone who fails to notice the jackbooted brownshirt reality of the leftie mindset is either sympathetic because they mean oh-so well or simply not observing what is clearly on display in front of us all. Maybe some are satisfied that their eyes are lying to them when they hear the pious purring of the assumed moral superiority of the hellcat libruls, but the American left today is dangerously authoritarian. The Gramscian march through the institutions is all but complete.
- Krumhorn
Prove it to yourself:
Google ‘Asian Couple’
Now ‘Black Couple’
Now Google ‘White Couple’
Wikipedia launders defamation while posing as honest broker. Corrective or context-providing changes are deleted by busybody administrators. It is among the worst sites on the interwebs and inherently untrustworthy. This is rich.
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