August 11, 2019

Is oblivion about the problem of violence against women sometimes okay?


ADDED: I love the way the photo has her fingers gently touching the word "WHITE." Screams posed, don't you think? Quietly, subtly screams...

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todd galle said...

I see a woman ready and willing to protect herself and others. Sam Colt famously made men equal, now women can be equal. Isn't that the thing now, making women equal to men? She should be a poster-lady. I carry concealed, but her mileage may vary. Some states make it easier to carry open rather than concealed.

gilbar said...

we KNOW that they have NOTHING Impressive, or Worthwhile, in their lives
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT US ONLY WE have worthwhile lives!!!
signed, the Left

Darrell said...

Wesley Miller seems like a cunt.

vanderleun said...

Another victim of Anatidaephobia heard from.

Martin said...

Just remember, when you see people like these tweeters, it's all projection.

vanderleun said...

I think Miller should screw his courage to the sticking post and just walk up to her and pull that dangerous pistol out of her holster and take it away. One can only hope she carries a back up on her ankle to stop his "active shooter" actions.

Michael K said...

Howard, is that you ?

chuck said...

I knew a lady who ran auctions in several states and carried a revolver in her purse. Seemed sensible to me. There is also a store owner in these parts who open carries behind the counter. Seems a bit odd at first, but is easy to get used to.

Bill Peschel said...

Why didn't he ask her?

Answer: Her answer would have caused her to change his mind about people. Maybe she had been raped and it made her feel better. Maybe she was a former police officer.

I don't think she would have minded answering the question, and since he took her picture without her permission, he would have looked less like the creepy stalker he is.

FrankiM said...

Because buying bread is a dangerous undertaking. A lady can’t be too safe.

rcocean said...

That's one pistol packin' mama. She could have 20 items in the "15 items" line and I wouldn't say a word.

Kevin said...

People who put out tweets like this are stricken with small penis syndrome.

Especially the ladies.

rcocean said...

Is that a .45? It looks a little too big to be practical, something easier to handle would be more appropriate, maybe a .38?

Gahrie said...

Why does the Left get hysterical when they see a gun? It's simply a tool, no more, no less.

Matt said...

Seems reasonable when we live in CULTURE OF RAAAAAPPPPPEEEE!!!1!!11!!

Francisco D said...

She is dressed in a very unfashionable manner, so she must be a deplorable Trump voter.

Those people cannot be allowed to have guns. It scares Inga (FrankiM) and Miller (Howard).

Of course, I was thinking that the grocery store is safer with her in there.

rcocean said...

Women "having small dick syndrome" = writer with small brain syndrome.
Women saying "suck my dick" = women with brains sucked out.

Wince said...

And she seems to be choosing English Muffins over Bagels.

Can you say neo-Nazi?

Gahrie said...

It looks like there is something on the left side of her belt...could be a badge.

Kevin said...

Shaming and bullying are central to the leftist agenda.

Socialist utopias can’t be constructed on free choice.

Tommy Duncan said...

A gun is probably not needed in the bread aisle. However, frozen foods is a jungle where firearms are a must.

It appears that memories of the recent Walmart incident in El Paso are lost.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Because buying bread is a dangerous undertaking. A lady can’t be too safe.

Yes. Especially in a WalMart or Costco these days. You never know when some deranged Bernie Bro or Elizabeth Warren supporter or Al Gore Global Warming Nut Case will try to stop you from buying eggs and milk to go along with that bread.

Better safe than sorry :-D

RobinGoodfellow said...

Why are lefties obsessed with penis size?

Beasts of England said...

Looks like she's packing a Kimber.

chuck said...

> Seems reasonable when we live in CULTURE OF RAAAAAPPPPPEEEE!!!1!!11!!

Looks a bit old for college, but you never know.

Wince said...

Notice she's got her hand rested on the shelf under the "WHITE" bread.

Kevin said...

Why didn't he ask her?

The tweet had nothing to do with this woman.

It’s to make every gun owner think twice about carrying in public

MacMacConnell said...

Max and Wesley should hook up, They have a lot in common, both are anti-civil rights. Wesley is obsessed with the penis and Max has one.

Big Mike said...

@rcocean, that’s a clone of the Colt 1911, and many companies sell it in various levels of quality and price, but some companies make it in 9 mm or .40 as well as .45 ACP. Be that as it may, I am certain that if she is open carrying that gun then she is comfortable drawing and shooting it.

David Begley said...

Texas.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Could be a Sheriff shopping on her way home. Note to self... Wesley Miller Law has strange fantasies about women's penis size. Red Flag required.

Matt Sablan said...

Who takes pictures of other people going about their daily life like that to shame them publicly?

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

Well, I can guarantee you no one’s gonna bother her. Smartest lady I’ve seen a picture of today!

Open carry — fully within her rights. Not sure what a penis has to do with it, but clearly Wesley’s avatar indicates he thinks he’s a wooly mammoth with long tusks. What a man. And Max looks like a happy ‘lil douchebag. No doubt they both live in gated communities and Whole Foods delivers to them.

As for her firearm selection, that’s a 1911. Likely chambered in 45 ACP. If she practices with it, she can handle it. And I’d carry a 45 over a 38 any day. Very practical, especially open carry — everyone can see it. Only criticism I have fir her is she’s not carrying it cocked-and locked, but not everyone is comfortable with doing that. She’s good people.

Who’s gonna protect her? The police? Dial 911 and die. The police will be there in (who-knows-how-many) minutes when seconds count.

Ann, with all due respect, this is about violence against all of us. I don’t know if you own a gun and have your concealed pistol license (CPL). If you don’t have your CPL, I am an instructor. I’d be happy to fly to Wisconsin for a private CPL training class for free, and your husband is welcome to join. Honest... my treat.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Wesley Miller Law... get him bracketed... fire for effect.

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Fernandinande said...

Is oblivion about the problem of violence against women sometimes okay?

Since men are 3.347826087 times more likely to be murdered in the US than women, yes.

Find the very few countries wherein women are murdered more often than men: in 2010, 100% of the murder victims in Iceland was a woman.

stevew said...

"I just don't get it"

Then you should stfu until you do. As Bill says above, the easiest way to do that is ask her. But it's not really about understanding, is it.

Was visiting one of my lefty progressive sisters (who happens to leave in NoCal) a couple of years ago. I mentioned that over the previous weekend I had gone for a longish bicycle ride with a buddy and then we went to his gun club and shot at targets for a couple of hours. Horrified she asked me why (!?!?, which already makes her better than this Wesley fella. I explained that it was a fun, sociable thing to do with a friend, very similar to the long bike ride we had gone on that morning. Didn't change her mind about guns but she at least acknowledged there could be a reason to have and use them. Fortunately she didn't follow up with a question about my gun ownership, I'd have been faced with the dilemma of comforting her by lying or scaring her with the truth.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

@ rcocean Is that a .45? It looks a little too big to be practical, something easier to handle would be more appropriate, maybe a .38?

Agreed. My preference is a Lady Smith Much easier for me to handle and just as effective.

But then again, I don't open carry. Mine are for home protection, going outside at night when I don't want to use a rifle or shotgun (wild critters here) and when we are out camping. A shotgun is also a good home protection weapon. However, use of a shotgun probably will require more drywall work than a .38.

A .380 is also OK for a small handgun.

Mary Beth said...

What if 35 to 50 feral hogs suddenly run through the grocery?!

Michael K said...

Nut Case will try to stop you from buying eggs and milk to go along with that bread.

The meat aisle is especially dangerous as meat is causing global warming.

Once again, I am reminded of the radio show in the 80s where every woman caller in LA carried a gun even though CA has no CCW.

Unless, of course you are a big contributer to a Sheriff. And they are all Democrats.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

I have a concealed carry permit, and I carry every day. I hope I never have to use my gun, but these bleeding heart douchebags may one day be grateful that I have one. Incidentally, I'm completely satisfied with the size of my penis. Never had any complaints.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Who’s gonna protect her? The police? Dial 911 and die. The police will be there in (who-knows-how-many) minutes when seconds count.

Exactly. People who dismiss the need for protection as being some sort of epeen showing off live in a nice protective bubble....or think they do. The fantasy that when you dial 911 there will actually be someone there to help you.

We live in a rural area. Dial 911 and unless they happen to be driving nearby, you will be lucky to get a Sheriff in about 30 minutes or more likely an hour. Not their fault. They can only be in one place at a time and when they are covering hundreds of square miles, the likelihood that they are magically near your location is slim to none.

Guns are tools and are necessary tools in many cases.

Reminds me of the old joke

Why do you carry a gun?
Because a cop is too heavy!

Fernandinande said...

The small-penised violent crazy woman is looking at...WHITE bread.

BUMBLE BEE said...

The woman is proudly pro choice. Guess that scares lefties. She has control about who lives and who dies. Let that sink in.
On a different tack, every woman I introduced into handgunning was intrigued with the sport. Several I've known as anti in high school became avidly pro. Any woman seeking a "higher power" handgun should try out a ported model. Remember It is quite possibly be a crackhead you're up against. My hunting partner teaches woman's Defense shotgun 16ga. or 20ga is manageable.

Mary Beth said...

Joking aside, I doubt I would give a second thought to this woman if I saw her in the bread aisle. If I did wonder why she was armed, I would probably assume she had a job that made carrying a gun practical - she transports money or other valuables, or does something involving law enforcement, but there are other careers that make it useful too.

Do the anti-gun people just assume she's (just) a housewife? With a penis? I'm sorry, but a housewife with a penis, even a small one, isn't a person I would put on a "most likely to carry a gun" list.

gilbar said...

stevew ?

When you say your sister lives on Northern California,
do you mean San Francisco? or do you mean she lives in Jefferson?

She sounds like San Francisco (which, i think of as mid california (for now)

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

she dresses provocatively

Big Mike said...

Who’s gonna protect her? The police? Dial 911 and die. The police will be there in (who-knows-how-many) minutes when seconds count.

@Ignatius, in Dayton the police were already present on the scene and were putting rounds on target in under thirty seconds. Bastard still killed 9 people before he died. The police will do their best, but ...

Charlie said...

The folks in El Paso were just buying groceries too.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

"Yes -- it's a gun, ...and I'm not happy to see you"

Michael K said...

My wife came in the room a minute ago to tell men she had a dream that we had an intruder and I was about to shoot him. I showed her this post and now she is enthusiastic about practicing shooting again. She has bad rheumatoid arthritis and all she can handle is a .22 auto.

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

Lefties are do open-minded. That’s what always impresses me about them. Intelligent, too — real critical thinkers. Wow.

Dirty little secret fur all you 911 fans out there: the police are under no obligation to protect you. Proven in court in all 50 states. True story.

Have a nice day!

FrankiM said...

“My wife came in the room a minute ago to tell men she had a dream that we had an intruder and I was about to shoot him. I showed her this post and now she is enthusiastic about practicing shooting again. She has bad rheumatoid arthritis and all she can handle is a .22 auto.”

Oh woo hoo! The elderly are feeling empowered! How can that be a bad thing?

Yancey Ward said...

Yes, this was staged. No question about it.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Gunnskam !

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

Do you think Wesley would feel bad if he learned this woman was transitioning?

Seeing Red said...

She’s older. Some idiot might think she’s an easy mark.

Yancey Ward said...

And I do wonder what all those people in El Paso's Walmart were doing that day- possibly buying bread?

FrankiM said...

“Yes. Especially in a WalMart or Costco these days. You never know when some deranged Bernie Bro or Elizabeth Warren supporter or Al Gore Global Warming Nut Case will try to stop you from buying eggs and milk to go along with that bread.”

Or some right wing white nationalist xenophobe who has been triggered by Trump rhetoric.

Beasts of England said...

Maybe this lady doesn't want to become a victim of 'The Hunt'...

stevew said...

Hey gilbar, she lives in Berkeley actually. I'm a Boston MA guy, is referring to Berkeley as Northern California incorrect? I had to be corrected once for referring to BART as The BART - our local subway is called The T. No offense intended.

Kirk Parker said...

rcocean @11:11am,


Please tell me you are being facetious.

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

@Big Mike: Understood. Yes the Dayton police acted quickly... and bravely. But those 9 people found out they’re all on their own. And they were at a bar, so it’s a “gun-free zone” — even for those who aren’t drinking or don’t drink. No concealed carry in bars.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

That bread needed killin' !!

notice how Pumpernickel is over-represented in these type of shootings

Bob Boyd said...

Complacency in the bread aisle can get you kilt. You never know when a desperate carb addict might make a move for your loaf.

FrankiM said...

Maybe all the shoppers who saw the El Paso Walmart killer walk through the doors with his rifles, guns, etc. were comforted because they thought he was a good guy with a gun.

buwaya said...

I own no guns. This is not our tradition.

It is however yours. You would not be who you are without them.
You are a people created by the spontaneous reaction of the villagers of Lexington and Concord. That is where you started, that is what you are. Your real constitution is written in gunpowder, by your villagers, not the fine words of some landowner.

I admire and respect that tradition of yours, however foreign it is to me.
It seems to me that it is incumbent on immigrants to your country to adopt your customs. Your institutions no longer require that, and have turned against them entirely.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

@ stevew Hey gilbar, she lives in Berkeley actually. I'm a Boston MA guy, is referring to Berkeley as Northern California incorrect?

I live in The State of Jefferson. And we call this the True Northern California. If you look at a map of Ca, there is Hella lot of are north of SF. Miles and miles. It is actually in the middle of the State.

No offense taken. Calling SF Northern is just common usage, even if geographically wrong. Everyone, especially the media, forgets that there is more to the State.

Actually we are happy to be the forgotten red headed (conservative) step children of the rest of California. The more they forget about us and leave us alone, the happier we will be.

Yancey Ward said...

Here is the thing I don't get- we see police open carry all the time- I have never, in my life, seen a police officer not openly armed with a pistol- so why is anyone bothered to see a non-police officer armed? Are you really more worried that a carrying non-cop would shoot than you would be if it was someone in a uniform? Isn't that irrational?

rcocean said...

From what I understand the 1911 Colt has "Stopping power". But usually we're not being attacked by Moros Tribesman or stopping a Banzai Charge - so if you're a small handed lady - a .38 might be more appropriate. Of course, if she's well trained she can handle it but then She could probably handle a B.A.R if was well trained on it.

The real point of open carry is to warn off bad guys. So any gun is as good as another.

El Supremo said...

I guess what he's saying is some lives are worth defending and some are not, but he's not willing to defend any of them.

If a violent criminal put Mr. Miller's life in danger, and that woman was nearby, he would suddenly see the impressiveness and value she brings to her life and his.

Hero complex? I hope so, especially if I need her someday. The El Paso Walmart could have used a hero complex on sight instead of minutes away outside.

I don't know of anything more impressive or valuable than a hero with small penis syndrome when you need them. Do the cops have those issues too? How about soldiers?

I have been carrying a firearm every waking hour for nearly a year now, since I left CA. It gives you great peace of mind combined with a dread of the consequences of having to use it. The legal, financial, and moral risks and responsibilities are truely sobering and pretty scary. It takes a lot of courage to take those on, but what is worse is the vicious criminals who are around you every day, and you have no idea who they are, and usually you don't see them until it's too late. They have no respect for you, human life, or the losses they cause. You are not even human to them. They look for people like Mr. Miller and they avoid people like this woman, and they would likely avoid everyone around her.

I don't prefer that people open carry, but it's better than nothing, and you see people like this all the time in Nevada, and nobody much notices. I have people walk into my business with open sidearms like that. I suppose it scares some people, but it make me feel safe.

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

FrankM @11:55 AM: “Or some right wing white nationalist xenophobe who has been triggered by Trump rhetoric.“

Or some pornogrimd vocalist Antifa Democrat socialist ICE-hating satanist and would-be rapist triggered by Elizabeth Warren. Oh, and he liked gun control. Yeah, that guy. I guess he was a just left winger really upset about El Paso.

Maybe you dint know all those things about the Dayton shooter. The mainstream media doesn’t like to talk about those “sensitive” details.

FrankiM said...

Just wondering, how can one tell the difference between someone who comes into a public place open carrying guns benevolently from someone who is there to mow you down? Before they start shooting they may look harmless or even comforting. Not all of these mass shooters were wearing body armor or dressed in all black. Some might even be dressed like a grandma.

Yancey Ward said...

Inga wrote:

"Maybe all the shoppers who saw the El Paso Walmart killer walk through the doors with his rifles, guns, etc. were comforted because they thought he was a good guy with a gun."

Would you be comforted if he had been a police officer? Would you have been alarmed if it were a police officer with holstered pistol? Would you have been alarmed if it had been this old lady in the photo? What say you, Inga?

buwaya said...

Berkeley is most certainly Northern California.
The split of Northern and Southern is somewhat fuzzy, but its usually held to be north of San Luis Obispo - Bakersfield.

Now, there are counties north of Marin - Sacramento that define themselves , sometimes, as the real Northern California, but thats another matter.

Yancey Ward said...

Inga, how do you know anyone you see isn't concealed carrying and ready to mow you down?

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

right. I wanna read Gramma's manifesto

Drago said...

Its very very important to FrankiM/Inga that citizens not be able to defend themselves.

chickelit said...

Her sidearm reminds me of the Kimber Pro Raptor II that I reviewed link

wildswan said...

"Screams posed, don't you think? Quietly, subtly screams..."

That bag of Kettle yogurt and green onion chips. It's not available at Milwaukee Walmarts and I've never heard of them. Is it a delicacy some where in this vast land? I see you can buy it on Amazon but she is in a store. The little lady is also buying Horizon organic milk and Kern's Guava juice. People who buy those two products don't usually go for white bread.

Then she is wearing what appears to be a watch which is unusual these days.

I rate this posed.


Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

FrankM @12:02 PM’: “Maybe all the shoppers who saw the El Paso Walmart killer walk through the doors with his rifles, guns, etc. were comforted because they thought he was a good guy with a gun.”

Love the snark, Frank. What’s your point?

I think they figured out quickly he wasn’t a good guy with a gun. Perhaps you might find this surprising. After all they’re Wal-mart people, right?

You don’t think a good guy with a gun could’ve stopped this asshole from killing as many as he did?

FYI: Rifles are guns. Not sure what the “et cetera” is for, but you needn’t be redundant. It’s clear you don’t like firearms.

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday trolling! We’ll put you in the Wesley and Max column speculating on penis size.

El Supremo said...

I can't even imagine being a woman and being at the mercy of 50% of the population who can do whatever they want to me at will. Humans can be very cruel, and women mostly can't stop them. I guess the ladies get used to expecting someone to protect them, but I think most men expect it will be up to them, Mr. Miller excluded of course. I take that responsibility for myself and others around me very seriously. If all I have is a phone and 911, I am completely useless to them in most bad situations. I wouldn't like it, but I could live unarmed as a man, but I never could as a woman, or even a man with women around me. I may be just a bicycle, but I'm all you got, unless you too have small penis syndrome. Actually, if I had a small penis, I'd probably not protect myself. What's the point?

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

FrankM @12:08 PM: “Just wondering, how can one tell the difference between someone who comes into a public place open carrying guns benevolently from someone who is there to mow you down? Before they start shooting they may look harmless or even comforting. Not all of these mass shooters were wearing body armor or dressed in all black. Some might even be dressed like a grandma.”

Because they don’t shoot at you. See how easy it can be, Frank?

I’m sure you fantasize about being a TSA agent, patting down all those elderly women.

buwaya said...

The point of all this is not to defend yourselves, as individuals, but to credibly threaten your own government, and major institutions. The American tradition is one of distrust, and even hatred of authority.

Individual defense, or deterrence, is quite beside the point as a politico-cultural matter.

To carry a weapon like that is a public declaration of this distrust, that the authorities are warned that rebellion is just around the corner, should they outrage the public, and that no trickery will save them.

rhhardin said...

Tits are a fashion accessory too.

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Bob Boyd said...

If I saw this woman, I'd tend to my own knittin'
That's not what what Progs do though.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

As lifelong southern Californian, I've always taken Northern California to begin at Santa Barbara, or possibly as far north as Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz harbors some really delusional nutcase 60's hippie throwbacks , and we emphatically disown them.

On the other hand, I have a lot of respect for Jeffersonians. Somehow the appellation Northern California never did apply to that part of the state, at least in terms of philosophy if not geography.

Kevin said...

The split of Northern and Southern is somewhat fuzzy,

That's because neither group wants to be stuck with San Francisco.

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Bruce Hayden said...

My thoughts when seeing a 1911 open carried is that they are a gun aficionado. I love shooting a decent 1911, but carry black plastic handguns. Partially it is the capacity - even a compact (e.g. G17) black plastic gun carries twice the rounds of a 1911. It makes little sense to me to spend twice or more, for half the capacity esp when accuracy is not that important at typical self defense distances. Most police carrying duty weapons these days carry black plastic guns, little different from what most of us own. In this county, only the elected Sheriff carries a pretty 911 like she is carrying. All of his deputies carry more utilitarian guns. Which is why I assumed she is a civilian gun enthusiast.

I was talking to the head banker in town Friday, and we got off on guns (because we had both taken the county’s Justice of the Peace’s shooting class, and we were talking about the HOA taking a case before him). The banker is a .40 guy, and I told him I prefer 9 mm because of its cost. He was surprised that I shoot .40 in my 10 mm for practice, again for cost (10 mm is egregiously expensive). (I will be carrying it openly today, loaded with 10 mm solid cast, because of the possibility of encountering denizens of the ursine variety).

Kevin said...

Son, we live in a world that has Wal-Marts, and those Wal-Marts have to be guarded by people with guns. Who's gonna do it? You, Howrote? You, Miller? As gun owners, we have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for El Paso, and you curse the President. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know. That your local shooting range, while under constant attack from the zoning board, probably saves lives. And our existence and bread choices, while grotesque and not from non-GMO whole-grain wheat, saves lives. You don't want the truth of why we carry because deep down in places you don't tweet about at parties, you want us at your Wal-Mart, you need us at your Wal-Mart. We use words like honor, code, tight grouping. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending ourselves and our fellow citizens. You use them as a punchline to the latest CNN hoax. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to beta males who rise, sleep, and sample kombucha under the blanket of the very freedom that we provide, then question the manner in which my fellow citizens and I provide it. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, otherwise, we suggest you become proficient, pick up a weapon, and walk an aisle. Either way, we don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

El Supremo said...

"Just wondering, how can one tell the difference between someone who comes into a public place open carrying guns benevolently from someone who is there to mow you down?"

Maybe you can't tell the difference, but whether you identify him correctly or not, it is still far better to be armed or have other good guys armed around you, becuase nothing can stop the bad guy from showing up with guns out, hidden, or with a big knife. All we can really control is how well we are prepared to defend.

These heavily armed shooters are the very very small exception. You are a thousand times more likely to be attacked by a man with a single gun, a single knife, a tire iron, or just his bare hands. I'm too old now to defend myself or anyone else with my bare hands, but I still love those around me, and they expect me to protect them. So what do I do? Do I say I have big penis and don't need no gun?

Bruce Hayden said...

“You are a people created by the spontaneous reaction of the villagers of Lexington and Concord. That is where you started, that is what you are. Your real constitution is written in gunpowder, by your villagers, not the fine words of some landowner.”

Well said.

FrankiM said...

“Because they don’t shoot at you.”

A little late I’d say. Once they start shooting you, at least you won’t live long enough to call yourself a dumbass for trusting them.

Michael K said...

Santa Cruz harbors some really delusional nutcase 60's hippie throwbacks , and we emphatically disown them.

Including Blasey Ford who has a home there.

Kevin said...

"Just wondering, how can one tell the difference between someone who comes into a public place open carrying guns benevolently from someone who is there to mow you down?"

You can't. Even if they're wearing uniforms and badges.

But if you're armed, you're prepared either way.

Michael K said...

Inga wrote:

"Maybe all the shoppers who saw the El Paso Walmart killer walk through the doors with his rifles, guns, etc. were comforted because they thought he was a good guy with a gun."


This is so stupid, I am even reluctant to attribute this to Inga, The Walmart shooter, you know the radical environmentalist?, had his rifle out in firing position as he entered. Not even you are usually this stupid.

Narr said...

Oh no, the lady has a gun!

Narr
Hold me!

Derek Kite said...

Wesley, why don't you say it to her face?

Drago said...

Leftists/LLR-leftists: Oh My God there are shootings everywhere at an unprecedented rate and No One Is Safe!!!

Also leftists/LLR-leftists: Oh My God there are people arming themselves for protection!!

Discuss.

Kevin said...

"Just wondering, how can one tell the difference between someone who comes into a public place open carrying guns benevolently from someone who is there to mow you down?"

How do you know which people in a public place are concealing a weapon and may do you harm?

Same answer: you don't.

But again, if you're armed, you're prepared either way.

Beasts of England said...

'Because they don’t shoot at you.'

Thread winner.

Leland said...

She doesn't need the necklace to buy bread.

Drago said...

"Just wondering, how can one tell the difference between someone who comes into a public place open carrying guns benevolently from someone who is there to mow you down?"

Just wondering, how can one tell the difference between someone who comes into a movie theatre with no intent to falsely shout "fire" and someone who intends to falsely shout "fire!"

Asking for a friend who is a typical lefty totalitarian marxist.

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

buwaya @12:21 PM: “Individual defense, or deterrence, is quite beside the point as a politico-cultural matter.“

Incorrect. The two are inextricably tied.

If you read the history of the Second Amendment, it is protection from tyranny, and also protection of one’s person. This was important in a frontier setting for protection and food.

However, in the modern era, it is for personal protection when the state cannot (or will not) provide adequate protection. Detroit’s Police Chief Janes Craig is an ardent Second Amendment supporter for this reason. He realizes the cops cannot protect everyone, and applauds an armed citizenry against criminal elements.

So please understand it’s not just Jefferson’s “... the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it’s natural manure.“. The Second Amendment is an individual right to protect one’s person, as per District of Columbia v Heller (2008) and McDonald v Chicago (2010) — both which all four liberal Justices voted against, of course. I recommend you read Scalia’s opinion in Heller. It is an excellent synopsis of the origins of the Second Amendment.

In terms of distrust in our government, the Epstein result provides solid basis for informed skepticism. Next up: Julian Asange.

El Supremo said...

All this got me fired up for some practice, which is incredibly easy here in Las Vegas. I jump in my truck and drive 10 minutes out of town into the desert where there are numerous open sites to shoot. After living in L.A for 3 decades, this is like heaven. They used to have outdoor shooting sites in the mountains above L.A., but they gradually closed them all. There are indoor ranges, but that always felt claustrophobic and unnatural, besides they frown on my diving over tables and rolling across the floor while unloading fire on the zombies coming from all directions. When is the zombie community going to learn to keep to themselves. Nobody likes you guys.

FrankiM said...

“It is ludicrous to expect that any person would know (he) was exercising free speech rather than putting people’s lives in imminent danger,” Jefferson County prosecutors wrote. “Anyone, including a terrorist intent on terminating innocent persons with extreme prejudice, could, without limitation, openly carry a similar weapon into a mall, a movie theater, or anywhere else where there are likely to be large crowds and within moments open fire killing dozens of people.”

In 2015, when Texas lawmakers approved the open carry of handguns, they decided any fear or confusion residents might experience at the sight of visible weapons was outweighed by the benefits of less-restrictive gun laws.”

How’s that working out for Texans in El Paso?

Michael K said...

Oh woo hoo! The elderly are feeling empowered! How can that be a bad thing?

Yeah, you should try it. Get some of the poison out.

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...
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Michael K said...

How’s that working out for Texans in El Paso?

Gun free zone, dopey.

Being Texas, I wonder if WalMart might regret that decision?

Drago said...

Lefty/LLR-lefty Summary Of Our Rights: Anyone who wishes to make use of their Constitutional Rights must be pre-approved through the Dept Of Letting People Do Stuff which will headed up by Lois Lerner and Rachel Maddow.

I threw Rachel's name in because I know just reading her name is a source of great joy and deep satisfaction for LLR Chuck.

David Begley said...

Good one Kevin.

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

FrankM @12:35 PM:

Leave it to a Lefty to play armchair analyst on people who lost their lives in a mass shooting.

That’s the kind of mindful compassion we’ve come to expect.

It’s pretty clear who the dumbass is.

Drago said...

FrankiM: "How’s that working out for Texans in El Paso?"

Its going to be necessary to protect those El Pasoans who were doxxed by the dems in order to be targeted by the lefts brown shirts.

....oh wait...so THAT'S why you want them disarmed.

Makes sense now.

Btw, a much lauded on CNN court-order-to-be-deported illegal alien just killed a father of 5.

Hows that Open Borders/Sanctuary Cities/Protect violent illegals democrat policy working out?

FrankiM said...

No concealed carriers in a Walmart in Texas? Unheard of!

Francisco D said...

This is so stupid, I am even reluctant to attribute this to Inga, The Walmart shooter, you know the radical environmentalist?, had his rifle out in firing position as he entered. Not even you are usually this stupid.

Yeah. She is.

Media Matters exists to give dumb lefties like Inga something to say. They don't explain anything because reasoning complicates the narrative. It doesn't really matter because leftism today is a cult of self-appointed virtue.

Drago said...

How many instances of guns being used to thwart crime in El Paso have occurred since the law was passed?

(Sorry in advance as I know these kinds of questions really stump and throw FrankiM for a loop....just like they did to Inga....)

Reasonable inferences may be drawn.

ceowens said...

Four or five years ago I was in a Wegmans near Woodbridge, VA. A young woman, about 5'3", had three kids, a load of groceries and a 9mm. This is about 30 miles from downtown DC. Did my heart good.

Drago said...

FrankiM is worried that antifa bike-lock assaulters might get hurt during their attacks by concealed carry deplorables.

FrankiM is sort of like a lefty version of Mother Theresa in that regard.

El Supremo said...

There was only one good guy in that Walmart with a gun, but he was near the door helping people get out. What if just 1% of the 1000 people in that store that day had guns? That's 10 against 1. Dead people would be alive today, and ruined lives would be whole. Or, we could say that nobody is allowed to have a gun, which is how it worked out in El Paso, becuase that was the law in that store, which the bad guys never have to follow. So we know how gun control works, maybe we should reconsider doing more of what failed those people.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

DBQ wrote:

" My preference is a Lady Smith Much easier for me to handle and just as effective. "

I have a Glock 43 that I'm happy with, but I'll have to check out that Lady Smith.

I have a concealed carry permit (thank you, Scott Walker!). I would feel uncomfortable carrying openly, because, paradoxically, I think it makes you an obvious target. If a kook intent on mass murder is capable of thinking clearly at all, he'll shoot the open carriers first, before they can respond.

ceowens said...

Franki, I think So Paso went 70% Beto recently.

Drago said...

Gee, why havent any of these lunatic shooters attacked a gun show?

Its a mystery I tellya....

ceowens said...

El Paso

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

FrankM @12:44 PM: “How’s that working out for Texans in El Paso?”

Give up the pretense. You don’t care about the Texans in El Paso, Frank.

FrankiM said...

“Four or five years ago I was in a Wegmans near Woodbridge, VA. A young woman, about 5'3", had three kids, a load of groceries and a 9mm. This is about 30 miles from downtown DC. Did my heart good.”

“A 2-year-old boy died after he took a gun from his grandmother's purse and accidentally shot himself, authorities said.

Kayden Stuber, a 2-year-old from South Carolina, died Thursday afternoon from a gunshot wound to the head, Kent Dill of the Greenville County Coroner's Office told ABC News.

Kayden's grandmother and aunt had been watching him while his parents were at work, Dill said.”
———————————————————
“HAYDEN, Idaho — The details are shatteringly ordinary. A 2-year-old toddler, sitting in a shopping cart in a Walmart, his mother’s purse unattended and within reach as she shopped. Three girls, all under age 11 — relatives of the boy and his mother, the police said — tagging along. A frosty morning in the northern Idaho panhandle, the temperature in the teens. Holiday break. The clothing aisles near electronics, back of the store.

Then, shortly before 10:20 a.m. on Tuesday, as the store video cameras recorded the scene, the little boy found a gun in his mother’s purse and it discharged once at near point-blank range from where she stood, less than arm’s length away, said Lt. Stu Miller, a spokesman for the Kootenai County sheriff’s office. She died at the scene, he said, her death appearing to be accidental.”

walter said...

(Woman locking door)
I just don’t get it, she needs this to watch tv? WTF!

Michael K said...

Blogger FrankiM said...
No concealed carriers in a Walmart in Texas? Unheard of!


Unheard of by you of course, Law abiding people often respect "gun free zone" signs. Lots of them in Arizona.

I have a CCW but leave my gun in the car.

I do wonder if, by posting "gun free zone" signs, the store owner assumes some liability.

Lefty idiot Media Matters readers not asked to respond.



Bruce Hayden said...

“Just wondering, how can one tell the difference between someone who comes into a public place open carrying guns benevolently from someone who is there to mow you down? Before they start shooting they may look harmless or even comforting. Not all of these mass shooters were wearing body armor or dressed in all black. Some might even be dressed like a grandma.”

Mostly you can tell pretty easily. There just aren’t that many white middle aged female mass murderers. Mostly, that is a young male game. The two older shooters whom I can think of (LAS and the House Republican softball team) shot from a distance using rifles, instead of using handguns. When we are in AZ for part of the year, the cops are very likely to talk to young males openly carrying, unless they are obviously doing something where a gun might be useful at work, such as a cashier at a convenience or liquor store. And if the young male openly carrying has tear drops tatted around his eyes, or is wearing obvious gang clothing, they are likely to be disarmed first. Around here in rural MT, an openly armed young male is much less likely to arouse suspicion. But we see a bit more open carry too.

Michael K said...

Inga keeps finding these links that don't say what she thinks they say.

The CCW class in AZ is all day. Not everybody takes them but they should.

Bob Boyd said...

If you just saw this woman in a store, how do you know she's not a law enforcement? Sexist to assume she's not.

FullMoon said...

Reverse image search shows that as a stock photo, 2010.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

I guess I missed Inga's banning.

I take it she is back posting under a fake name (although she used to swear she had never done that, but then, she's always been a liar).

Gee, imagine being so addicted to this blog that you can't keep away from it even after a ban. And yet Inga always told us how happy she was, with her darling family. If she really was happy and contented, she wouldn't spend all her time writing asinine comments on a blog where she is despised. What a miserable existence. What a pathetic creature.

Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCD said...

FrankM: “No concealed carriers in a Walmart in Texas? Unheard of!”

Troll.

And what a disgusting, unhappy human being you must be. Low, low, low. Lower than pond scum.

AA: Mark all Frank’s snide, disingenuous comments for deletion. Please.

FullMoon said...

"Then, shortly before 10:20 a.m. on Tuesday, as the store video cameras recorded the scene, the little boy found a gun in his mother’s purse and it discharged once at near point-blank range from where she stood, less than arm’s length away, said Lt. Stu Miller, a spokesman for the Kootenai County sheriff’s office. She died at the scene, he said, her death appearing to be accidental.”

So, what was final determination? Accident, murder, or suicide?

Yancey Ward said...

The shooter in El Paso only stopped because he ran out of ammo, Inga. This is what happens when the victims and potential victims are unarmed- but only every time.

Big Mike said...

@rcocean, there is an ongoing debate about what constitutes "stopping power" and how necessary it is. Criminals participating in shootouts have suffered fatal wounds from .357 magnums (way harder hitting than a .45 ACP) and continued to fight. Other criminals have been hit in nonfatal body locations by light caliber rounds and surrendered, killed themselves, or fled the scene. I know of one case where a mother defended her kids with a 5 shot .38 revolver (like DBQ's Ladysmith) and hit the home intruder who was chasing her five times in the head and neck, yet he kept coming on. At that point she had retreated to the attic and had nowhere else to run, so she pointed the (empty) gun at him again and asked whether he had had enough. He decided that he had -- and he died in her driveway.

FullMoon said...

On the other hand, I have a lot of respect for Jeffersonians. Somehow the appellation Northern California never did apply to that part of the state, at least in terms of philosophy if not geography.

Northern California is a state of mind.

Mark Jones said...

Kevin--Bravo!

Personally, my retort to people who claim my gun must be a penis substitute is, "Of course it's a penis substitute! If I could kill a bad guy at 30 feet with my penis, I wouldn't need a gun!"

Big Mike said...

The way I see it, people have a right to self-defense that is both natural and unalienable. Justice Stevens was simply wrong.

FullMoon said...

I guess I missed Inga's banning.

I take it she is back posting under a fake name (although she used to swear she had never done that, but then, she's always been a liar).


New name allows it to post, and allows AA to let it post.

ceowens said...

Franki,

Remember Inga had the reputation as the cut and paste queen.

Michael K said...

Inga lives to troll.Sort of like Howard but he posts worthwhile things at times.

The Twitter thread that began this post was all by lefties until about half way, then pushback began. The Twitter hater is an actor, no doubt in West Hollywood.

There is a subpopulation that believes all these lefty themes are real.

I guess we will find out how many in November 2020.

walter said...

FullMoon said...
Reverse image search shows that as a stock photo, 2010.
--
Makes sense since a CCW gal would likely "eschew" pics by strangers

Bruce Hayden said...

@Inga - what is the relevance of two purse concealed carry fatal incidents when the discussion is about open carry? In both cases, the women would have done better open carrying like the woman in the photograph. In both cases they acted stupidly letting their guns get out of their immediate possession. This was esp egregious, since kids were involved.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

The ability to protect your own space is the very essence of empowerment.

I’ve always been amused at how closely the arguments for abortion rights and gun rights track.

rcocean said...

@ Big Mike.

IRC, Michael Brown charged the officer in Ferguson and was hit 4 or 5 times, but kept on coming. Not sure what pistol he had. The 1911 was adopted for several reasons, one was the current US Pistol had not stopped the Moros Tribesman. I don't think anyone has complained about the Colt's "stopping power". Of course, that's one myth Hollywood loves. One shot and you drop dead. The other is "its just a flesh wound" or people getting shot in the shoulder and are well the next day. The hero just puts his arm in a sling, and he's good to go. Tell that to Bob Dole.

Bruce Hayden said...

“@rcocean, there is an ongoing debate about what constitutes "stopping power" and how necessary it is.”

.45 ACP comes from a time when you essentially had the choice of ball ammunition, or ball ammunition A big fat bullet made some sense then in terms of “stopping power”. That is because, for the most part, you want bigger holes, since you usually stop someone coming at you through blood loss. That was over a century ago. Now, modern self defense ammunition mushrooms, which can open up larger wound channels with smaller caliber rounds.

Jeff said...

Yeah, why is she wearing a bra, anyway?

Oh, you mean the gun. Never mind.

Birkel said...

I like the drawing of Harriet Tubman with a pistol.
It has the look of freedom from Democratics.

Bruce Hayden said...

“IRC, Michael Brown charged the officer in Ferguson and was hit 4 or 5 times, but kept on coming. Not sure what pistol he had.”

I think that it was 7 shots. The first was when Brown was trying to take Wilson’s service weapon from him while he was sitting in his Tahoe. The other six were later, in pairs. Two to the arm, continuing to retreat. Brown stops, shakes it off, and starts advancing. Two to the torso, continuing to retreat. Brown again stops, shakes it off, and starts advancing again. Two to the lowered head (Wilson described it as a “bull rush”), both fatal.

My memory is that Wilson was carrying a .40 caliber Sig. No reason to believe that Wilson would have been more successful with a .45 1911, and if he had carried one, and he would have been out, or almost out of ammunition after 7 shots, contrasted to the half a magazine he had left.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

I like her. Go grrl. Real women know how to protect themselves from Antifa psychos

Dust Bunny Queen said...

buwaya The point of all this is not to defend yourselves, as individuals...

Actually this IS exactly the point of being able to bear and maintain "arms". To PERSONALLY be able to defend myself. It may not always be against people...in fact rarely I would hope that is the case. Defense against mountain lions, rabid coyotes and to be able to massacre the freaking ground squirrels that are destroying our property.

, but to credibly threaten your own government, and major institutions. The American tradition is one of distrust, and even hatred of authority.

This also is the main reason for the 2nd Amendment and the reason that the liberal/socialists/and our very own government want it abolished. An armed populace is one that can't be cowed and suppressed.

The distrust of authority is a Scots/Irish tradition. The clans and tribes of the Celtic peoples are a bottom up type of government. We have a leader who is appointed/elected/chosen by consensus. UNTIL that leader isn't agreed upon anymore and then the group chooses a new leader. You are only good enough to run the show...until you aren't.

Unlike those cultures that have a King or Queen. An inherited position that is not questioned or ousted. (other than death or beheading) The King or Queen rule with unlimited authority. Unlike the tribal chieftan who is always questioned and even distrusted.

This is the cultural difference. The United States was basically founded on those Scots Irish cultural/governmental traditions. The schism between the Scots/Iris contingent and the King/Queen loyalists is also one of the reasons that there were tensions between the colonists before the precipitating events.

To understand this you might want to read Born Fighting by Jim Webb


Individual defense, or deterrence, is quite beside the point as a politico-cultural matter.

To carry a weapon like that is a public declaration of this distrust, that the authorities are warned that rebellion is just around the corner, should they outrage the public, and that no trickery will save them.


Yes. And the authorities want to suppress the proles, take away our right to SELF government and keep us subjugated. They Authorities want to be the Kings and Queens and the rest of us to be deplorable peons.

Molan Labe

0_0 said...

>Now, modern self defense ammunition mushrooms, which can open up larger wound channels with smaller caliber rounds.

So a modern .45 ACP could be designed like a modern 9mm and be even better?

Bruce Hayden said...

One of the problems Wilson had stopping Big Mike Brown, was that Brown was really big. We are taking almost 300 lbs, at 6’3” or so. Big enough to play line at a D III college, except that a lot of that weight was probably in fat. For the most part, the way that you stop someone coming at you is blood loss, and it was going to take quite a bit to get Brown to bleed out enough to stop him, and probably compounding the problem was his fat was probably pushing the wound tracks closed. The other way of stopping someone is to disrupt their central nervous system. And that is what finally worked. The problem though with head shots a lot of time though, is that there are a lot of angles to a human skull, that often deflect bullets. Brown, lowering his head in his Bull Rush, probably negated this, to some extent, by presenting the top, more vulnerable, part of his skull, to Wilson.

Dave Begley said...

For you women, I saw a purse that hides a gun inside. Clever!

And useful on dates.

Bruce Hayden said...

“So a modern .45 ACP could be designed like a modern 9mm and be even better?”

It is a lot better now. Pretty much anything that you can buy for 9 mm, is available in .45. Mostly you just don’t need that higher caliber, esp when it comes with more recoil, which translates into slower and often less accurate, follow up shots. I think that it has been 30 or so years now since the US military, for the most part, moved from .45 ACP to 9 mm Luger.

Michael K said...

I have a number of different caliber pistols. The 1911 is a favorite for tradition. A Beretta 9mm is in my car.

A Walther P4 is also 9mm and two .380s are a Browning 1911 .380 and a Walther PPK. The Browning .380 was going to be my CCW gun but it has developed a jamming problem that requires field stripping to unjam. It will go to the gunsmith this week.

The rifles include a muzzle loader flint lock that is a lot of fun to shoot.

Michael K said...

I think that it has been 30 or so years now since the US military, for the most part, moved from .45 ACP to 9 mm Luger.<


Some in Afghanistan have gone back to 1911 .45.

narciso said...

The Brits relied on the Enfield rifle, the Afghan partisan imposed their version of the ak 47 the jezail.

Michael K said...

Blogger Dave Begley said...
For you women, I saw a purse that hides a gun inside. Clever!


My daughter the FBI agent has a shoulder bag that has a gun bag on the inside. Her brothers gave it to her for Christmas.

She carries a Sig Sauer .40, I think.

Michael K said...

Afghan partisan imposed their version of the ak 47 the jezail.

Which hit Dr Watson in the shoulder, grazing his subclavian artery Hence his return to London where he met Sherlock.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Michael Brown reached into the squad car and attempted to take Officer Darrel Wilson's gun.
Evidence, based on fact.

We won't hear from Rachel Warren and the entire leftwing collective network of liars.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

FrankiM is Inga.

Gunner said...

The best arguement for Trump is that people like these clowns are against him.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

I have a Glock 21 in .45 ACP. I love the caliber and never thought recoil was an issue, but the gun is just too big for summertime carry. My little guy, a Polish P-64, is nice and concealable, but six rounds of 9x18 is not really a confidence builder. Plus, there's that pesky safety to deal with, and the first-round double action trigger pull is an ungodly 18 lbs. So yesterday I decided to bridge the gap and bought a Glock 26. Utterly consistent 5.5 lb. trigger pull, no safety, concealable enough, and ten rounds of 9mm P. It feels like a quantum step up.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

"Then, shortly before 10:20 a.m. on Tuesday, as the store video cameras recorded the scene, the little boy found a gun in his mother’s purse and it discharged once at near point-blank range from where she stood, less than arm’s length away, said Lt. Stu Miller, a spokesman for the Kootenai County sheriff’s office. She died at the scene, he said, her death appearing to be accidental.”

So, what was final determination? Accident, murder, or suicide?

I would say stupidity and carelessness. Stupid people are not a reason to ban guns from the rest of us. If that were the rationale ....no one would be allowed to drive a car. Have you ever SEEN the stupid drivers on the LA freeways?

When we have company with small children, our guns are always locked in the gun safe. Their children can't be trusted :-)

Bruce Hayden said...

“Some in Afghanistan have gone back to 1911 .45.”

Special Operations people get to use pretty much whatever they want. But I hadn’t heard that anyone else had been give that waiver. Still, Afghanistan would probably be the place for it. We really do need to get out.

traditionalguy said...

Best line on the subject is that we protect all of our valuable things with guns: Money, Politicians, Billionaires, Judges in Courthouses, actors and actresses, rock stars, etc.

So why are we told protecting ourselves is a threat. We are only a threat to those out to steal from us and kill from us: thieves and Tyrants, government hit teams, and CIA programmed Ultra mind controlled assassins.

Francisco D said...

I take it from some of the posts by gun collectors that the Glocks are not much favored.

I had a Glock17 and a S&W .356 Magnum. The .9mm Glock was nice, but I wonder about stopping power. The Magnum had that in spades, but the recoil was awful.

Asking because my ex was able to keep both guns in the divorce. Now I am in the market.

richard mcenroe said...

Lawyer Wesley knows absolutely nothing about this women yet he feels entititled to objectify her according to his own needs and desires. How like a man!

Hey Skipper said...

I've been living in Germany for the last four and a half years.

Moving to Boise in a few months. One of the first things we are going to do after closing on the house is some gun shopping.

I've always wanted a lever action rifle. An AR-15 not so much. But I'm going to get one anyway, thinking of all the people it would piss off.

Michael K said...

I no longer have children around except when visiting my kids. Or, rarely, they visit us. With a semi-auto, you just don't put a round in the chamber. There are reasons to have self defense guns "locked and cocked" but not around kids.

I got my first gun at age 9. I was given a souvenir Japanese pistol when I was about 8 but it was stolen by a guest at a party my parents had. Of course I was blamed for losing it but that was back when I trusted people. I knew about guns from that time.

Nobody with na small child should have a gun that they could fire. There was just a case of one small child killing another in Tucson.
Stupidity is not rare.

richard mcenroe said...

Glocks are popular because they're the majority cop gun but overrated. I'm very happy with my S&W M&P's (service and compact). If you buy ANY first time gun make sure you budget for training and practice as well.

Achilles said...

FrankiM said...
Maybe all the shoppers who saw the El Paso Walmart killer walk through the doors with his rifles, guns, etc. were comforted because they thought he was a good guy with a gun.


There is a reason Ann banned Inga from the board.

She demonstrates to all just how horrible democrats have become.

I am glad Inga comes here and reminds everyone who reads these comments just how shitty life would be if democrats had power over them again.

I would much prefer they lost the election.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

Francisco D

I have a broad collection of firearms of all types, but I've always favored the traditional. I have several 1911's for instance, but when it came to picking something that might be called upon to save my life, I had to concede to the modern. Glocks just beat everything when it comes to functionality and price. If you aren't confident that 9mmP can do the job (though the US Army and police forces across the nation might disagree), Glocks come in a number of hotter calibers, including .357 Sig and 10mm.

mockturtle said...

"ADDED: I love the way the photo has her fingers gently touching the word "WHITE." Screams posed, don't you think? Quietly, subtly screams... "

Looks to me like she's just resting her fingers on the edge of the shelf while looking above it. But for those who see racism behind every loaf of bread, well....

Michael K said...

I've always wanted a lever action rifle. An AR-15 not so much. But I'm going to get one anyway, thinking of all the people it would piss off.

I have a Winchester 30/30. I would like to have a Henry just for the fun of having one but they are heavy and expensive. One time in a gun shop, I saw a Winchester 1893 model that had engraving that it was owned by one of the Banning brothers, early California types. I could not afford it.

mockturtle said...

For you women, I saw a purse that hides a gun inside. Clever!

My daughter gave me one [a shoulder bag] for my birthday. It's made by Browning and is not just well crafted and convenient but is attractive, as well.

0_0 said...

Full Moon is correct. The photo is of Jan Cushman, part of an Time article published after the MacDonald SCOTUS verdict.

http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,2000412_2158678,00.html

gilbar said...

I've NEVER wanted an AR-15, they seem scary and weird. Plus, they're Military type weapons

People (not just me, but ALL people) should stick with safe, sensible sporting rifles;
like a Ruger Mini-14, chambered in .223
Unlike an AR-15, which is Just a Killing Machine; a Mini-14 (in .223) is FUN!


can you believe i'll have to and this? </sarc

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

All my guns were purchased during the Obama era.

Thanks, Democratics!

Freder Frederson said...

Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!". There are few things that retain more of their value for someone dealing in stolen goods than a handgun. One guy sticks a gun in your face, second one takes your gun. Probably worth more than hot Rolex. Here in New Orleans cars are broken into because people are specifically looking for guns to steal.

Hey Skipper said...

[Michael K:] I have a Winchester 30/30.

When we lived in Alaska, I had a Ruger Firehawk, chambered for buffalo rounds. Thought about a Marlin 30/30, but decided I'd probably leave it at home once too often when walking the dog.

I open carried the Firehawk. Including across the HS parking lot that was between our house and the trail system.

No one cared.

Francisco D said...

Thanks Tyrone.

I have long heard good things about Glocks and I liked the 17.

I will probably go with a different model with more stopping power. We are seeing increasing reports of mountain lions here in Tucson. I had a bobcat in my "backyard" (deserted golf course) last month. it took out a neighbor's dog.

Freder and Inga won't approve of me saving lives by shooting something, but who gives a shit about their opinions.

gilbar said...

stevew said.. is referring to Berkeley as Northern California incorrect?

Sorry stevew! It's Completely correct*, but as Dust Bunny Queen pointed out; a hundred miles North of that is a whole other ball game; and your sister would be an odd fit there (maybe not in Reading ); so i just wondered.

Completely Correct* Just like West Point is in Upstate New York, or Peoria is in downstate Illinois

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Freder Frederson said...

We are seeing increasing reports of mountain lions here in Tucson.
Mountain lions hunt by stalking their prey. If you think that you are going to get off a shot in the fraction of a second between the time you see it and it pounces, you are seriously deluded.

chuck said...

> I'm very happy with my S&W M&P's

I have one, shoots well, but the grip is a bit short, gotta squeeze it really tight.

MadisonMan said...

100% of the murder victims in Iceland was a woman.

How many times can one woman be killed?

Drago said...

MM: "How many times can one woman be killed?"

It depends on the daily lefty/LLR-lefty narrative requirements.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

I'm against open carry, for two reasons. One, it could be seen as a threat, possibly an assault. A thug could use it to bully others
Two, it eliminates the element of surprise, making it harder for law-abiding gun-carriers to defend themselves. If you were a violent criminal, whom would you shoot first? That has happened.

Drago said...

In lefty/dem/LLR-lefty-land its still considered a terrible tragedy for the lefty royalty Kennedy clan to have to deal with Mary Jo's unwillingness to not die in the car that swerved off the road all by itself while Teddy was behind the wheel.

bagoh20 said...

The arguments about handguns are never-ending, and that's OK. I'm not alone on this, but I think the Glock 19 is the perfect CCW gun.

Glock because they are simple, very reliable, and everything made for handguns is made for Glocks first, so it's all available and cheap.

The 9mm, because with today's ammo technology, you get plenty of stopping power, yet you also get lots of shots on board, the recoil is light enough to allow accurate follow up shots at quick intervals, and the 9mm is very economical ammo.

The Glock 19 because the 17 is too big and the other 9mms sacrifice too many rounds on board. The Glock 19 with a standard magazine carries 16 rounds. I like that in a compact gun.

It's the epitome of the sweet spot. Maybe something else excels in one aspect or another but the Glock is simply best overall. I don't even know how you could make it better unless you could somehow make it smaller and not lose rounds.

Yea, I know - everybody changes the Glock sights, but I don't need to. I use the Leftist aiming method: I feel like I'm on target, I hope I'm right, but if not, it's Trump's fault anyway.

Drago said...

Field Marshall Freder, in addition to being an expert on the Bundy Case results, is also apparently an expert on large predator behavior close to urban environments.

Cool.

bagoh20 said...

"Mountain lions hunt by stalking their prey. If you think that you are going to get off a shot in the fraction of a second between the time you see it and it pounces, you are seriously deluded."

With practice you can easily draw and shoot in under 2 seconds, so if you have any warning, you will have a good chance at hitting or at least scaring it with the first shot. Worst scenario: he gets the jump on you and grabs you by the neck. He can't incapacitate you before you can pull out the gun and stick it in his ribs or temple and light him up. As long as I have those possibilities, I'm gonna feel OK with the gun. Without it, you're screwed. A hundred pound hungry cat? That's a scary pussy.

Jim at said...

Because buying bread is a dangerous undertaking. A lady can’t be too safe.

Why don't you go run your mouth to all the friends and family of those who were simply 'buying bread' at Wal*Mart last week?

Bruce Hayden said...

“I've NEVER wanted an AR-15, they seem scary and weird. Plus, they're Military type weapons

People (not just me, but ALL people) should stick with safe, sensible sporting rifles;
like a Ruger Mini-14, chambered in .223
Unlike an AR-15, which is Just a Killing Machine; a Mini-14 (in .223) is FUN!”

.223/5.56 is the same, whether in a Mini-14 or an AR-15.

Part of why I like AR-15s is that they are so modular. Legally the same firearm can be .223 one minute, and .300 Blackout a minute or two later. Just pop the two takedown pins, and replace the upper receiver, barrel, etc. and it is so easy to customize and personalize the guns.

Michael K said...

Blogger Freder Frederson said...
Seems to me that open carry is like hanging a sign around your neck that says "Rob me!".


OMG ! The Field Marshall is weighing in with expertise.

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