Biden wins by 8 percentage points. Harris and Buttigieg pull off a tie, while Warren, Sanders, and Booker lose by 1.
Biden is up by 17 points over his next nearest rivals for the Democratic Party nomination.
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Polling, the modern version of fantasy king making.
What a joke.
The Democrats should be ashamed that the current leader in their election race is a racist.
Let It Be.
I hope I'm not granting too much perspicacity to the American public, but Joe Biden is going to have a very hard time hiding the fact that he's an idiot.
Trump elevated Biden with his attacks.
I said at the time Trump was happy to do so.
Biden would lose several states that Hillary won.
Biden would win no states Trump won.
Democratics have announced plans to tax and spend; that's always a winner.
They've promised to let taxpayers pay college loans for third parties.
They've promised unfettered infanticide.
They've promised The Squad has a voice at the proverbial table.
They're promised reparations.
Ohioans have elected Republicans for nearly every statewide position for a decade.
But Joe Biden will solve the riddle?
Anybody see the new jobless claims went down from already low numbers?
Potential campaign slogan:
Trump is so cruel he makes people take jobs and keep working for a living.
Not even the Democrats believe this garbage.
What I do find interesting is that there is a generation of people that do buy these polls.
Is mueller considered a boomer? At least on the cusp. Dementia seems to be coming early for them all.
I’ll have to wait for Inga’s analysis to understand how all these colorful woke folks can be trailing OrangeManBad so early in a key state. It’s a puzzler!
"Biden is up by 17 points over his next nearest rivals"
Sad!
seems fair, Democrats Love bullies, and Biden presents himself as the biggest bully
("i wish i could take Trump behind the gym")
While Biden couldn't take Trump, anywhere; he presents himself as someone that could beat up on people.
PLUS, Biden is the biggest pedophile out there, and Democrats LOVE pedophiles
AND, they never thought to ask any Ohioans that weren't Democrats, so there's that.
BTW, it's a poll of registered voters with an over sampling of Democratics.
Color me surprised!
And the lead is almost all from voters aged 18-34.
This poll is trying to shape opinion; it is not reporting opinion.
I can't help chuckling at these polls that have Trump losing to some (or every) possible Dem candidate. I often wonder how many Democrats truly believe them. I mean, if they did, logically they wouldn't have anything to worry about, right? It's in the bag, right? Why fuss about it? Why continue to fight so hard? The strategy of calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist is clearly flawless.
I think Biden is a stand-in for "generic Democrat."
Tyrone Slothrop said...
I hope I'm not granting too much perspicacity to the American public, but Joe Biden is going to have a very hard time hiding the fact that he's an idiot."
The country already knows that. That's why Obama chose him as life insurance. More interesting is if a well known idiot is the leading Democrat candidate what does that say about the other Democrat candidates?
Biden looks feeble in the recent videos I've seen. Just imagine what he'll look like in 4 years. Scary. It would be like having Mueller in the White House.
"Generic traditional Democrat."
Biden who has taken millions from Ukrainian and Chinese “supporters.”
Biden is a traitor that spied on political opponents.
He has threatened violence against Trump and his supporters numerous times.
Anyone who supports Biden is just asking for war because that is what you will get.
Polls - the backdoor loophole to glory.
Geriatric Democrat.
Remember, Clinton was up double digits on Trump only a week and a half before the 2016 election.
These polls are only meant to shape public perception.
WTF?! Who are these imbeciles who deplore Trump but somehow find Biden appealing?
I hid the answers inside my comments, Robert Cook.
See if you can find the answers.
A few months ago I opined that for Dems to compete against Trump, they had to embrace the center by doing 2 things:
1. Drop impeachment nonsense
2. Embrace Biden
Since then, they have (1) pushed impeachment, resisted by Nancy P; and (2) tarred Biden as a racist for supporting busing 50 years ago and supporting the crime bill 25 years ago.
So, it looks like the Dems ain't taking my suggestion, which is fine by me.
Biden will eventually start performing like Mueller in a debate. He's too old. I don't think he gets the nomination, but if he does Trump will carve him up.
Biden's finished.
Its incredible that left-wing, 100% ADA, I support the ACLU, Open Borders Joe Biden is now considered the "Moderate". Astounding.
Biden won't stop the madness. He'll give in to the crazies. And he'll say ANYTHING to get nominated.
Biden is NOT the "Center". If Biden is the "Center" then America is doomed. Its like saying Ginsberg is a Centrist Justice.
Pols are unreliable except when they favor teh Dronald, then they are scienterrific
I said stand-in. They are hoping a real candidate will emerge.
Begley says Biden is done. He may be right.
Who then becomes the front runner?
Howard thinks polls are reliable.
Presidents Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, and Walter Mondale agree.
tarred Biden as a racist for supporting busing 50 years ago and supporting the crime bill 25 years ago.
You mean he opposed busing 50 years ago.
Biden might poll above Trump right now but he has to get past the 19 loonies first.
Iowa.
Nebraska.
Tuh-may-tuh.
Toe-mah-toe.
Biden's greatest challenge is if people... persons will accept his religious conversion to Pro-Choice. Once you go selective, opportunistic, politically congruent...
Ohio and Missouri. Two states the democrats always think are in play but end up going republican. Kind of like Pennsylvania was for republicans until trump beat the margin of fraud from Philly
Go, Joe! Harris is dangerous but Biden, in all his corrupt White male glory, is a punching bag.
Which party is better for the economy?
38D to 45R
But FOXNews so OMB.
There is no credible candidate waiting in the wings behind Biden that people will coalesce behind.
I agree. Even if there were and they did, the establishment still picks.
The dems will lose, again, because their many "minorities" will not support the party, and vote if their special identity candidate is not the nominee.
Yah maybe. I dunno...
Is there yet sufficient evidence we can dismiss the notion Dems will make going after a squishy middle a major strategy move? It’s all about Not Trump, pandering to never voters who turned out for Obama, and getting as many non citizens to the polls as they can.
I can't imagine anyone taking any poll regarding something 467 days away seriously. It is all spin, wishcasting, or whistling past the graveyard at this point. Polls couldn't reliably predict the 2016 result when it was ONE day away. Maybe this is precise, maybe this describes a reality that will prove itself out over time. But, I'm not going to bet until I have my ballot in one hand and a sharp pencil in the other.
Biden is not going to beat Trump in Ohio. The Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primaries are not until February. Joe Biden will probably still be a viable candidate after those events, but that’s not guaranteed.
@DavidUW97,
Beating the Philly fraud to win Penn is the ballgame. It's not the ONLY way for Trump to win, but it's a big one.
What do they say about Pennsylvania? Pittsburgh in the west, Philly in the east, Alabama in the middle.
I dont know how to do it, but hope it gets done.
It's official, the Democrats are the party of dumb.
> Even Obama -- the first black/mixed president --
I thought that was Harding. And the first gay president was Buchanan.
Who are these imbeciles who think Biden is left-wing?!
Who are these imbeciles who think Biden is left-wing?!
Biden has historically been Leftwing. I will accept an argument however that the Left has become so batshit crazy that Biden appears centrist.
There is no credible candidate waiting in the wings behind Biden that people will coalesce behind.
Hillary will throw her hat into the ring on the third day of the convention as a "unity candidate".
Who are these imbeciles who think Biden is left-wing?
By the expert on left wingedness second only to Stalin whom he mourns each day.
I grant you that he is trying to be left wing but is not quite crazy enough.
Trump should be up by 5 points - everywhere. God help the United States of America.
"Who are these imbeciles who think Biden is left-wing?!"
Yawn. The same ol' Lefty propaganda game. Here's how its played. You pretend the following is true:
Communists = Left-wing
Republicans = Right Wing Extremists
So therefore, Bernie Sanders/Democrats/ACLU = Mainstream.
Except the Commies/Socialists are about 3% of the USA. And the Republican - based on the voting - are 45%. And the people who agree with Bernie Sander's leftism is about 30%
The No. 1 Dem political tactic is to call their opponent a racist (often falsely), win election, and increase size of government, while pushing leftist culture.
The Squad to the rescue. They will pre-impeach Slow Joe. Because Biden only molests white girls. He is a racist because he avoids black and brown little girls. What's a matter Joe? Aren't they clean and articulate enough?
Biden has previously threatened Trump with a beating but I'm guessing the Secret Service would prevent it, in Ohio or otherwise.
As for the election, pollsters be trippin'.
he was for the nuclear freeze in the early 80s, along with Kerry and other lefties like pannetta, and he abided by salt 2, but that's a far right wing position at this point, he was for the partition of Iraq, in part because of the input of his advisor peter galbraith, and he opposed the raid on abbotabad, (the bin laden takedown)
I live in Ohio. I would be truly shocked if Biden or any Democrat were to defeat Trump in this state. There are a lot of "closet" Trump voters here. There are also many voters like me who voted for Trump reluctantly in 2016 who now will vote for him enthusiastically.
Also, from time to time I have been surprised by people who I assumed were liberal Democrats turning out to be Trump supporters. That includes a gay friend of mine who I had lunch with recently. I determined to avoid a political discussion altogether. Instead, he couldn't stop talking about how much he loved Trump, and hated the news media.
I was at a cafe a few weeks ago, and overheard three older men discussing Trump enthusiastically despite being Democrats. Their consensus was that the Democratic party had gone off the rails.
I could tell several such anecdotes from the past three years, but especially recently. There's a slow, incremental shift going on among people who are not political junkies. Trump is somehow getting his message out to them. Not to mention that the economy is going gangbusters in several local industries, especially construction and manufacturing.
Hillary will throw her hat into the ring on the third day of the convention as a "unity candidate".
Apollo 13 had LEM Lifeboat as a contingency. It's entirely possible the Dems are running Hillary option 127: Biden Snowplow.
REGISTERED VOTERS
PARTY IDENTIFICATION
Republican 35%
Democrat 29
Independent 28
Other/DK/NA 8
Responses are reported for 1,431 self-identified registered voters with a margin of sampling error of +/- 3.2 percentage points, including the design effect. The survey includes 556 Democratic or Democratic leaning voters with a margin of sampling error of +/- 5.1 percentage points. Margins of sampling error for subgroups are available upon request.
Does that make sense to anyone? 556 D/D leaning would be 39%.
"Is there yet sufficient evidence we can dismiss the notion Dems will make going after a squishy middle a major strategy move? It’s all about Not Trump, pandering to never voters who turned out for Obama, and getting as many non citizens to the polls as they can."
This. Crazy doesn't mean stupid and, Trump aside, the Donks are waaay better at the amoral knife-fight of politics than the GOPe.
Harris and Warren campaigns hardest hit.
The bookies selling odds all pic Trump, so believe who you want, but remember motivations.
I saw Warren on TV yesterday saying "Trump has done everything in his power to obstruct the investigation". Isn't that nearly 100% backwards?
reham asked... The survey includes 556 Democratic or Democratic leaning voters with a margin of sampling error of +/- 5.1 percentage points. Margins of sampling error for subgroups are available upon request.
Does that make sense to anyone? 556 D/D leaning would be 39%.
No, that's the trick!
Their polling sample doesn't have anymore REGISTERED 'democrats' than surveys show
Their polling sample HAS MANY MANY more 'democrat leaning' 'independent' voters than Ever!
They worked HARD to find a sample full of life long liberals, that aren't REGISTERED democrats
"There is no credible candidate waiting in the wings behind Biden that people will coalesce behind."
Be prepared for the Michelle Hail Mary.
Of course, many dems are already thinking about 2024 and conceding 2020 since open borders + amnesty post-2024 dem victory will still achieve their long range goals within a handful of years.
By that time Roberts will have "evolved" into a reliable left-wing judge.
dem victory will still achieve their long range goals within a handful of years.
By that time Roberts will have "evolved" into a reliable left-wing judge.
Probably true but about the time they take over the debt bubble will burst and we (you and my grandkids)will ll be driving 1934 Fords which will cost a fortune.
After the utter and complete collapse of the democrat/lefty/LLR-left/NeverTrumper Cuck Brigade hoax dossier/collusion lies/obstruction lies, a lefty poll needed to be launched quickly to shore up their troops.
If Biden had not gotten in, the "moderate" lane leader would have been Bennett or Hickenlooper, or maybe Klobuchar, who might have had some shot in the general.
Thanks, Obama.
Biden was chosen as VP by Obama as impeachment insurance.
Women and minorities will not get excited about Biden.
He's a corpse and Trump hasn't even been at him yet.
Who ran against Reagan's second term? Anyone remember? Mondale? This will be like that.
Male gender gap.
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