From "Woman involved in Tracy Morgan Bugatti crash speaks out: ‘I got scared'" (NY Post).
Famous guy... and a $2-million car.
It's not clear to me which driver is to blame for this fender-bender, but judge for yourself whether the lady had reason to be scared:
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102 comments:
Men in shorts...ugly baggy basketball shorts...
She said, "“We are both turning right — people are still crossing... So what happened is we’re both turning right. But I know he hit me because I was already [turning]. I was there, he was the one who hit me!”
The question is who was in the right lane then! Looks like he was in the right lane ready to turn right and she was in front, but maybe he was in the parking area and not a real lane and he swooped up into the gap and didn't think she was getting ready to turn.
Alternate headline: Famous black guy worth a lot of money, fancy car, and with very good insurance still lacks impulse control.
Bystanders were heard to comment that - in any other city than NY - if facing someone armed "he would've been 'capped' for good reason."
The ad starts playing right away when that loads. Not a fan.
Morgan was captured on video banging on the woman’s window in anger after the wreck — which came just after he had bought the exotic luxury vehicle
Driving one of those high end hypercars is a totally different experience. Dealing with 1000+ horsepower takes some getting used to. And since he just got it I suspect he may have been at fault. He may have either over or under compensated when trying to drive around her or something.
How can such an average comedian make so much money? Unfair! We need to tax them more.
Never heard of him. But my advice to him: Get a truck.
When your $2 million car is hit, you feel it deeply.
Whether or not the air bags deploy.
Which Bugatti salesperson had that day in the pool?
"Famous black guy worth a lot of money, fancy car, and with very good insurance still lacks impulse control."
Kind of like Joe McKnight's final day.
And he acted like a fool. Anybody with brains knows, that you don't drive cars like that in NYC. Dumb as a rock.
I see that Tracy Morgan is busy spending his Walmart settlement.
Yes she had reason to be scared. That's pretty clear.
30 Rock reboot:
"I WAS MAD, LIZ LEMON! I JUST BOUGHT THAT CAR AND THOSE FRENCH PEOPLE DON'T MAKE STEERING WHEELS THAT WORK RIGHT."
Whenever a big angry guy bangs on my car window and yells “BITCH GET OUT OF THE CAR” I get scared.
In fact, I think a big angry man did just that to Jennifer Dulos in the garage of her rented house in New Canaan Connecticut just last week before she was murdered by her estranged husband, allegedly.
Yeah.....he bought a $2 million dollar car with a cheese slicer on back??....and then drives it through Manhattan??
Wasn't Tracy Morgan the guy that was damn near killed by the Way-Mart truck??? He needs to get a driver!
I think it would kinda scary, or least startling, to have some guy bang on your car window right after you had an accident.
Or is the fact that he looks goofy in shorts supposed to put her at ease?
I wouldn't know Tracy Morgan if he walked up and introduced himself. I know now he's a fool who spent stupid money on a mode of transportation.
Two right turn lanes, she's in the left one, they're both turning right. Woman driver. Guarantee you she cut across his lane. I see them doing that all the time. Give me no shit about sexist comments, blah, blah. Gender differences in spatial perceptions and all that. We won't even get into the Asian driver thing...
Wasn't Tracy Morgan the guy that was damn near killed by the Way-Mart truck??? He needs to get a driver!
To be fair, he wasn't driving when that accident happened. Maybe he mistrusts other people driving due to that.
Jerry: You're not blowing all the money are you?
Tracy: It's Walmart brother, that wasn't a Raymour & Flanigan truck.
Judging from the blog post and video I thought "Tracy Morgan" was the woman in the SUV, vs some random obnoxious black guy who had won a lottery.
"Wasn't Tracy Morgan the guy that was damn near killed by the Way-Mart truck??? He needs to get a driver!"
He was a passenger in the car in that Walmart truck accident. "On June 7, 2014, Morgan — best known for his work on “Saturday Night Live” and “30 Rock” — was in a limo bus when it was rear-ended by a Wal-Mart tractor-trailer on the New Jersey Turnpike."
Oh great, I looked up a car accident. Now all my YouTube ads are for Injury Attorneys.
Two right turn lanes, she's in the left one, they're both turning right. Woman driver. Guarantee you she cut across his lane. I see them doing that all the time.
Hard to tell, but it looked like he was going straight ahead in a turn lane. That was my initial impression.
He may have been struggling with an unfamiliar car.
What is the point of driving a Bugatti in NYC?
Judging by google maps, they were west-bound on 42nd, and she was turning right into 10th. There were three lanes west-bound on 42nd, she was in the middle, and he was in the right. 10th is all one way, 6 lanes, though the lanes nearest the curb look to be used for parking.
The man hole cover visible in the video is well into the first lane of 10th, so Morgan's car is well into the second lane without starting to turn.
What I can't tell: was the right lane right-turn-only? If so, Morgan was clearly at fault. Did the middle lane allow right turns? If not, the woman was clearly at fault.
'What is the point of driving a Bugatti in NYC?'
With the rear wing deployed, no less... lol
True story. NYC morning rush hour, I'm eleven and in the big city with my Oma and bluestocking aunt. We're in a cab, and the driver gets into a right-of-way argument with the driver of a big limo. The limo passenger rolls his window down and shouts, "Do you know who I am? Do you know who I am?"
Cabbie shouts, "I don't give-a fuck-a who you are!"
We pretended not to hear, but wow.
Narr
Good times
Oh great, I looked up a car accident. Now all my YouTube ads are for Injury Attorneys.
Check out "Russian car accidents" on youtube if you want to see some drunks speeding on ice. They all seem to have dash-cams. And you'll learn how to say "oh shit!", or something worse, in Russian, which comes in handy more often than you might think in Era of Trump.
The other thing, his car is pretty low to the ground, hard to see especially in the minivan's blind spot.
What is the point of driving a Bugatti in NYC?
What's the point of driving a Bugatti at all? I mean, unless you're on the Nürburgring or something. It's not like there's a ton of places where you can safely open it up or whatever.
To answer my own question, the point is obviously to get people to pay attention to you, to validate you, to demonstrate your great wealth so people will be impressed by you.
She expressed fear of a black man? She's a racist, straight up. She's cancelled. Where does she work--or should I say did she work, 'cause we gotta get her fired right away.
Is it stupider to buy a $2M non-museum car or to then drive that car in New York frickin' City? Plenty of stupid to go around, I guess.
I play that game and I hate the autoplay.
Francisco D said...>>Hard to tell, but it looked like he was going straight ahead in a turn lane.<
Could be. None of us know for sure, of course, but we can see that she is angled into him. Looks like she turned early, flattened her turn arc, and cut into him before he had reached the start of his turn arc. I've seen it so many times...
I saw the video of Morgan stepping out of his car. He dresses like an 8 year old at Disneyland. He must use the same stylist as Charlie Brown.
Put almost anyone in a car without identifying traits and they couldn't tell the difference between a Bugati, or a Corvette. The car is truly Morgan desperatly trying to be cool.
Weird cars I've seen driving in NYC: Old Fiat 500 in perfect condition. Land Rover defender 110 with quilted seats, Koenigsegg Regera, a few Ladas, some kind of old troop carrier...
>>The car is truly Morgan desperatly trying to be cool.
Yeah, just a little. Absurdly-garbed, nondescript Black guy in a 2Mill Bugatti on a NY street is about as cool - and natural - as a tarantula on a wedding cake.
There’s a whole genre of YouTube videos of people proving that it’s one thing to own a high-powered car, quite another to be able to control it. Mr. Morgan is just the latest in a long line of people with more money than driving skill.
My wife ran into Taylor Swift in her RR Wraith yesterday but only figuratively. True story.
Around here the car in front has the right of way.
You should see my reaction when some nitwit opens their door into the side of my car. The car isn't worth $2m, more like $30k, my reaction is identical to Morgan's though adjusted to be proportionate to the lower value.
"Is it stupider to buy a $2M non-museum car or to then drive that car in New York frickin' City?"
Well, there's that: at some level, a car is just a car. Especially when driving in dense Manhattan traffic, there's very little you can do with a $2 million car that you couldn't do with any car (or at least any car that's in drivable condition).
Which is to say, the owner would surely have been disappointed anyway once he realized how little happiness a $2 million car actually buys.
BUT, having owned it for only an hour, he probably didn't have it long enough to realize that.
AND, whatever flows from their suddenly public behaviors, I'd predict both are going to see very substantial increases in their car insurance rates.
(If you really want to enjoy driving in Manhattan traffic, the best way to do so is to drive a really nasty looking beater car aggressively and just a little bit erratically. And then enjoy how much space other drivers- and bicyclists too!- offer you.)
Difficult from Google to determine whether or not Morgan was in an actual lane, but if he was, it was certainly a turn only lane. Here you have a view of 42nd street about half a block from the intersection with 10th Av. You can clearly see that the far right, the lane Morgan was in, is not a travel lane in the middle of the block, and the same applies to the block of 42nd after the intersection. It is possible that the end of the block is a turn only from the curb, but I doubt it.
Ice Nine said...
Looks like she turned early, flattened her turn arc, and cut into him before he had reached the start of his turn arc.
Check out google maps, satellite view. If he was turning into the second lane from the curb (reasonable, the lane closest to the curb is used for parking) then his path would have him crossing the outer corner of the light-colored pavement around the manhole cover, probably around a 30 degree angle. He is parst that without starting his turn.
There’s a whole genre of YouTube videos of people proving that it’s one thing to own a high-powered car, quite another to be able to control it. Mr. Morgan is just the latest in a long line of people with more money than driving skill.
I had just returned from a weekend motorcycle trip, 1200 mile. At that time I was riding about 12,000 miles year. Anyway I had just hit home when a friend waved me over. Wanted to show me his new dirt bike, offered me a test ride. So I took off, almost wiped out. The difference between a touring bike and dirt bike in torque and acceleration is vast. Though I had done a bit of dirt riding, this bike still almost got the best of me. The point is experience counts and hubris can bite you in the ass. re;Tracy Morgan
Who is the famous guy I've never heard of?
A good friend of mine works for Hinkley, a maker of high end boats ($1m+). He has some great stories of new, well healed owners smashing their brand new boat into docks and other boats, on the maiden voyage, no less.
But, yeah, who buys a $2m museum quality car to drive around Manhattan?
He's in shorts. No worries.
Here is another view of the accident. In this photograph, it is less clear where each driver was- as IiB points out above, Morgan is to the left of the manhole, and this seems to indicate he might be in the far right travel lane and the other driver was turning right from furthest travel lane- but it isn't definitive.
If you are driving a $2 million dollar car, BTW, why? , and you are getting cut off by a guy in his prole Honda, or whatever that is, you let him go. Rich people have too much to lose to let themselves get into pissing matches with other drivers.
Dave said...
He's in shorts. No worries.
The Professor has exceptions to her no shorts rule. I believe one of them is that it's okay to wear shorts when you're making an ass of yourself.
If I had a Bugatti, it would only be driven on the interstates, a rural highway, or on a track- only an idiot would drive one in a big city like NY.
(If you really want to enjoy driving in Manhattan traffic, the best way to do so is to drive a really nasty looking beater car aggressively and just a little bit erratically. And then enjoy how much space other drivers- and bicyclists too!- offer you.)
Growing up I had a friend who did that on Chicago streets. Except his car needed to be fixed up a bit to make it to “nasty looking beater” status.
the best way to do so is to drive a really nasty looking beater car aggressively and just a little bit erratically. And then enjoy how much space other drivers- and bicyclists too!- offer you.
I was talking recently with an ex jockey about the Kentucky Derby, and he basically said that that’s what the jockey riding Maximum Security was in the habit of doing. That he was holding the reins loosely, and that you could tell the horse was going to pull something a couple seconds before it happened by his ears.
Rich people have too much to lose to let themselves get into pissing matches with other drivers.
@Nobody, true that. The woman needs to sue Morgan for about ten million and get a mad bomber of a lawyer to represent her.
Yancey Ward said...
Here is another view of the accident. In this photograph, it is less clear where each driver was- as IiB points out above, Morgan is to the left of the manhole, and this seems to indicate he might be in the far right travel lane and the other driver was turning right from furthest travel lane- but it isn't definitive.
6/5/19, 10:46 AM
Good info in that article. Says Morgan owns another Bugatti, and leans towards blaming the other driver. On phone?
Morgan doesnt have a lot of success in auto accidents.
In the 80s I was rear ended by a pregnant lady who was rear ended by a guy driving a new car home from the dealership. Everyone was 'okay' and new car guy's insurance paid for my car. I'd wager pregnant lady still owns new car guy to this day.
"If I had a Bugatti, it would only be driven on the interstates, a rural highway, or on a track- only an idiot would drive one in a big city like NY."
A year ago, while walking, I saw a dude parallel park a new Koenigsegg in a tight spot on a busy downtown London street.
I don't gawk, ever. But I did take a second take, and third one, and I walked especially slow to take in more of the feat.
Plus the passenger was murdering magnificence re hotness.
Just sayin'
BTW, Bugatti is owned by VW.
And, based on the coloring and the drop-top, and a deep hole of a whole lot of squinting and self-deception: In this car I can see hints of the VW that Althouse was posing in, re buying a new car.
IMHO.
I can't determine fault from the short video, but watching him trying to extricate himself from the car was hilarious!
I don't understand the hate for Bugatti owners; they're beautiful automobiles. An indulgence; a bit of art that one can drive. That said, when you take it out in public you're assuming some risk.
Caligula said...(If you really want to enjoy driving in Manhattan traffic, the best way to do so is to drive a really nasty looking beater car aggressively and just a little bit erratically. And then enjoy how much space other drivers- and bicyclists too!- offer you.)
Last time I visited NY I was amused to see the number of cars with those large rubber "Bumper Bully" pads driving around. I assumed they're mostly to prevent damage from other cars parallel parking--not a terrible idea.
If Tracy Morgan's supercar had one of those strapped to the back I would have given him a lot more credit!
Alas, from the pictures it looks like she is at fault. That’s not nearly as funny as it being his fault. If he were smart he would have made a routine out of it, coulda been funny. Richard Prior on a small scale. He should have stopped and thought, you know here’s 5 minutes good stand up material if I’m cool. But the road rage not so much.
It's necessary for me to say whenever Tracy Morgan is the topic that I saw him at a comedy club once during his SNL days and found him to be not only not funny, but an asshole who insulted and abused the audience when we didn't clap loudly enough at the end. He accused us of being too uptight appreciate his edgy comedy when the reality was we were bored by his tired shtick.
I can't hear his name without thinking of that. And as 30 Rock clearly demonstrated, he's also a completely talentless actor. How he got rich or famous is a mystery.
Francisco D said...
"Hard to tell, but it looked like he was going straight ahead in a turn lane. That was my initial impression."
Yes, I agree. Any traffic cop who arrives on the scene should also consider this scenario.
Likewise, I related this story to my wife across the table this morning, and she had absolutely no idea who Tracy Morgan was.
a $2-million car.
Bugattis are actually Volkswagons assembled in France.
From looking at the accident picture, my guess is that Morgan was stopped and this woman had to go around him to turn right. He was probably stopped to try to get someone on the phone to come down and look at his car, then took off when he was done talking. I saw an accident just like this once and testified in court for the poor woman who tried to go around a lawyer in a sports car. I stopped and gave her my card, otherwise she would have lost when he sued her. The judge said to the sports car lawyer, "So what was she supposed to do when you are stopped there?. Case dismissed".
In the video that plays here on Althouse, all Morgan does is get out of his car.
TMZ
TRACY MORGAN BUGATTI CRASH NOT HIS FAULT ...
NYPD Saw it Go Down
"Only 2 things can make Tracy Morgan feel better about wrecking his $2 million Bugatti ... insurance and this -- the accident wasn't his fault ... TMZ has learned.
Just Tracy's luck ... an NYPD traffic agent happened to be on the corner of 42nd Street and 10th Avenue Tuesday afternoon when the costly fender bender went down. Law enforcement sources tell us the traffic agent witnessed Tracy cruising westbound on 42nd Street and preparing to make a legal turn onto 10th Ave. when the Honda collided with him.
We're told, to the traffic agent's eyes ... the Honda did NOT have the right of way."
"...Most of the damage to the Bugatti's carbon body was on the front left quarter panel. Doesn't look like a ton of damage, but when the whip costs $2 mil ... it's all relative."
https://www.tmz.com/2019/06/05/tracy-morgan-bugatti-crash-not-at-fault-nypd/
Assuming this is not fake news, the woman was obviously trying to make a right turn from one of the middle lanes on 42nd Street westbound to get on 10th Avenue (which is only northbound).
Since Tracy was apparently in the process of doing the same from the curb lane, she apparently felt as a woman driver it was entirely within her rights as to cut him off.
Except that women drivers are reportedly more careful and get into less car accidents than men.
To resolve this discrepancy, she must be either a stupid or crazy woman driver or both.
Or possibly, an entitled Jersey City woman driver who was high on pot.
Maybee-
About five seconds into the video he smacks the passenger side of the minivan, and it looks like he does some yelling, before climbing through and getting out the other side of his car.
Didn't they or the cars around them have dashcams? They're cheap and useful if you need to show the other driver was an idiot (unless you're the idiot).
I have one and I would certainly have one if I drove in NYC.
Assuming this is not fake news
@StephenFearby, don’t you think that’s a pretty big assumption these days?
Carbon fiber monocoque body. Steps to repair: first, unbolt everything from the body, second, assemble everything onto new body, third, sell old body as a conversation piece. If damage is limited to only a paltry fender panel, then repair cost may only be equivalent to the purchase price of a large, but otherwise plebian, Mercedes.
I have that scene fleshed out for my blockbuster seller made into a movie. A bit of flavor borrowed from Samuel Jackson.
NYC morning rush hour ...in a cab, and the driver gets into a right-of-way argument with the driver of a big limo. The limo passenger rolls his window down and shouts, "Do you know who I am? Do you know who I am?"
Jackson exits the cab, pulls out a 9mm, shoots Do You Know Who I Am six times in the gut.
"No I don't. Who were you?"
I think it will be an opening scene that I never come back to. A character who's arc is never heard from again. Game of Thrones style. I hear audiences love that.
Fen @ 1:24: That will have to be directed by Quentin Tarantino, of course.
Maybe he had some Uncle Jemima's Pure Mash Liquor celebrating his new purchase,
https://vimeo.com/153249121
Yancey Ward said...
Here is another view of the accident
Again, she is turning, and he is going straight ahead. He was probably trying to pass on the right, and that's why is car is going straight, and not making any attempt to turn right. Yank his license, is what I think needs to happen.
Thanks, Ignorance is Bliss. I guess I need to put my glasses on. It didn't look very scary, but she was probably wise to just leave her windows rolled up considering how crazy some people are in road rage.
She mentions pedestrians crossing. I wonder if there we pedestrians crossing 10th heading eastbound. Rather than wait for them to finish crossing so he could turn into the nearest lane, Morgan decides to continue straight past the pedestrians, intending to turn right into one of the farther lanes. A lane that the minivan was also trying to turn into.
Just a theory.
If you have never driven a supercar around on city streets and mountain roads, STFU. It's the most fun you can have in street clothes. Not quite as fun landing a 172 on 33R in 30-40kts of wind burbling over the Santa Ynez Mtns. Of course you cucks are jealous of that comedian because he is too street for your whitebread taste and owns a better car.
I especially like how Farmer attempts to ingratiates himself with you deplorables who hate him because gay by sending out the "n-word rich" bat signal.
just a theory
Just a theory.
My own theory, given that he had purchased the car less than a half hour before, is that he was unused to driving a car with 1500 hp and 1180 lb-ft of torque. He pressed the gas petal and the car leapt forward quicker and farther than he expected. Part of this theory is that he felt entitled to put the blame on the woman because “Do you know who I am?!?!?”
BM yeah, very likely right. Also, the Veyron is a very heavy car compared with Ferrari/Lamborghini/Porsche, so takes more pedal to get out of the hole.
"Again, she is turning, and he is going straight ahead. He was probably trying to pass on the right, and that's why is car is going straight, and not making any attempt to turn right."
If you're changing lanes on a highway or ANYWHERE, you have to check your rear and side-view mirrors to make sure you're not going to cause an accident.
42nd Street isn't a highway. It's a major, two-way, multi-lane cross-town street in midtown Manhattan. Traffic can be held up in any lane if there's a vehicle trying to make either a left or right hand turn. That lane backs up and drivers try get out of the blocked lane to the one that's flowing. So what applies on the highway doesn't necessarily apply here.
Sometimes it's a matter of playing chicken for both pedestrians and cars.
Many years ago, when I was commuting to a research job at the NY Daily News, I was patiently waiting with other commuters from the Port Authority Bus Terminal for the 8th Avenue & 41st traffic light to turn green...so we could cross 8th Avenue.
The light turned green. I stepped out into the crosswalk, only to be knocked down by cab driver who decided that red lights didn't apply to him. I got up and approached on the sidewalk, looking at least for some signs of an apology. Non was forthcoming. Instead, the driver looked straight ahead, studiously ignoring me.
But his driver's side window was open. So furious me gave him a Korean Karate shot to the side of his head with the heel of my hand. He got out of the other side of the cab, opened the trunk and took out a baseball bat. As we were squared off, a cop happened to turn up, heard the story and ordered both of us to get on our ways.
It's probably not very smart for a pedestrian to play chicken with a car. But I was young and foolish and almost 6'4" tall and wanted to get to work on time.
When I first saw this post I thought the driver was Tracy Morgan Bugatti. I never heard of Tracy Morgan, but I knew Bugatti was a high-end car company and I thought the driver was a member of the family. Silly me. (Don't bother to tell me who Tracy Morgan is, because I really don't care.)
But if a guy named Morgan wants to drive a cool car, he ought to drive a Morgan Plus 4. When I was in high school in the late '50's-early '60's, my buddy drove a Morgan Plus 4. Nice car, with three headlights, recognizable anywhere -- and even today I bet you get get one for way south of $2 million.
Do people forget this guy is the person who, in his stand up act, talked about stabbing his son to death if he ever came home and said he was gay. I don't remember the exact phrasing, but if you're so interested, please look it up. Why he was given a free pass on this is beyond me. Anyone else would never be employed again.
I love your hate, Kathy. It's so pure and innocent.
Never heard of Morgan, thought about calling Holzhauer, but then decided I couldn't afford his services.
"cheese cutter", never heard a wing called that either, but I had to clean the screen after reading that.
I thought the wing on this car is retractable, so what was it doing in the active position? Methinks this guy, whoever he is, was playing with all the toy gadgets this machine has at the time of the accident and probably hadn't found the brake pedal yet.
I would’ve been pissed too.
Poor man’s ads.
that will have to be directed by Quentin Tarantino, of course.
What a name. Is that his real one? If I got to make up my own name, that would be it.
I would have guessed Jim Nabors, Fen... or maybe Rock Studson
(If you really want to enjoy driving in Manhattan traffic, the best way to do so is to drive a really nasty looking beater car aggressively and just a little bit erratically. And then enjoy how much space other drivers- and bicyclists too!- offer you.)
My brother and I were once brainstorming bumper stickers that would be more effective than those baby-on-board signs. We settled on, "Caution: Car sheds nails."
I've read and watched videos of car reviewers explain just how disconcerting it is to drive a super car. Even experienced NASCAR drivers who get into a Formula 1 car say that the incredible braking, especially, shocked them. Another issue is that they accelerate far faster and maintain higher speed than their engine noise would indicate.
I wouldn't be surprised if Morgan approached the intersection faster than he realized and then braked faster than he expected BUT didn't turn because in a normal car, that would be risky.
(When I first saw the Morgan wrecks new Bugatti headline a few days ago, I figured he'd killed himself for the reasons I stated above.)
I never drove a 'super car' but when young I drove a boyfriend's Jaguar XKE and was shocked at how fast it accelerated. Downright scary!
I go with the dual dumbass theory myself; summer in the big city. (Fen I get screenwriting cocredit and we split everything 60/60. Deal?)
You know what's hard to drive? Fork lifts. Much harder to master than dump trucks.
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Even old wore out POS dump trucks
P.S. You can credit me as Stan Doffisch.
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Man of mystery
Howard said...
I love your hate, Kathy. It's so pure and innocent.
6/5/19, 5:16 PM
That's a real compliment, Kathy. Howard is a connoisseur of hatred.
I also didn't read the story because I didn't want to know anything about someone named Tracy Morgan Bugatti.
"Caution: Car sheds nails."
In Boston I once saw “Go ahead, hit me, I need the money”
I don’t know where people get the assumption he’s going straight. His wheels aren’t straight. The car may be facing straight ahead, probably so he can see to the left - it’s a low sports car with limited visibility. But regardless, she turned into him. Maybe she didn’t see him.
OTOH, they are very far out into the junction...neither with turn signals on (yeah that’ll get a laugh).
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