Hunyo 23, 2019

Elizabeth Warren : Meryl Streep :: Me : Rush Limbaugh.



You have to believe in astrology or something like it to think that having the same date of birth as a particular person says anything about the kind of person you are... though talking about it (like talking about anything) says something about you.

133 komento:

gilbar ayon kay ...

the word they're looking for is: twin
as in; my twin sister Jen, who is not my sister (or my real twin)

being 'twins' doesn't make you at all alike; it gives you a reason to name drop
(which i do ALL THE TIME, on account of because my twin sister Jen is WAY COOLER than i'll ever be)

gspencer ayon kay ...

Granny Warren channels Jack Handey's Deep Thoughts,

"Astrology? That's a lot like astronomy, right?"

gilbar ayon kay ...

i thought that this was going to be the election for young minorities?
What's with all these geriatric white folk ?

gilbar ayon kay ...

Cosmetology? That a lot like Cosmology, right?

Ann Althouse ayon kay ...

"the word they're looking for is: twin"

I've never heard that usage, but I do see it in the original tweet.

Kevin ayon kay ...

You have to believe in astrology or something like it to think that having the same date of birth as a particular person says anything about the kind of person you are...

Doesn’t that describe many of her supporters?

Many more focus on how she and they were born with the same sexual organs.

How is that any less weird?

David Begley ayon kay ...

How pathetic. Warren trying to draft on the goodwill and celebrity of Meryl.

Warren is the most unlikable person in the Dem field. Meryl, on the other hand, is beloved.

Fr. Gregory Jensen ayon kay ...

My friends and I who share a birthday (we are 7 in total) use the phrase " birthday buddy."

Humperdink ayon kay ...

Warren launching another trial balloon: I am at least 1/1024 Hollywood star.

Limbaugh has been known to say politics is show business for the ugly.

whitney ayon kay ...

Yeah that is just annoying nonsense. Much like the birthday week. When people tell me they're celebrating their birthday week and how special they are I like to remind them that around a hundred fifty million other people are also celebrating their birthday week. I'm not very popular at parties

gilbar ayon kay ...

At work we had two co-workers with the same birth Day; which was great!
(twice as many birthday donuts!!!); and Yes, they called themselves twins

404 Page Not Found ayon kay ...

Elizabeth Warren: All the integrity of Hillary Clinton without the charm.

Mr. D ayon kay ...

I share a birthday with a best-selling author. Oddly, she hasn’t offered to share any royalties with me.

David Begley ayon kay ...

Warren doesn’t talk. She hectors.

rehajm ayon kay ...

She's good at pretending she's somebody she's not.

iowan2 ayon kay ...

My friends and I who share a birthday (we are 7 in total) use the phrase " birthday buddy."
Have not heard the birthday buddy term.

I married my birthday buddy. It very much messes with form driven paper pushers. Insurance companies, DMV, banks. To add to the confusion, of sharing a birthday, also same year. It gets weirder because our mothers shared a hospital room the day we were born. Yet, we never met until our twenties.
Down side, (messing with paper pushers is fun) we fight over who is supposed to be pampered and who has to do the pampering.

rehajm ayon kay ...

Me: Gillian Anderson. She's kind of a jerk. Draw your own conclusion...

Scott ayon kay ...

Geez, cut Warren some slack, this is what politicians do.

AllenS ayon kay ...

Google "famous birthdays on (your birthday), and join in the fun!

Mary Beth ayon kay ...

the word they're looking for is: twin

What you're saying is that Warren is bearded Spock?

Mr. O. Possum ayon kay ...

Ah, just like Jefferson and Adams....

stevew ayon kay ...

I share a birthday, not birth date, with Alfred Hitchcock and Fidel Castro. I'm told I'm nothing like either of them.

Here's a fun bar bet my college math professor taught us: it is a virtual certainty that in a randomly determined group of 30 people or more at least one pair will share a birthday.

Wilbur ayon kay ...

I respect Elizabeth Warren to the extent she is a successful law professor.

I have no respect for Meryl Streep, a trained monkey - she's in show business, after all - who loves to lecture the public on politics.

William ayon kay ...

Meryl Streep is to Harvey Weinstein as Elizabeth Warren is to Ted Kennedy.

Darrell ayon kay ...

Meryl showed herself to be a real piece of shit in the #metoo kerfuffle--giving Hollywood cover girl new meaning. Thanks, Liz for making the permanent connection in my mind.

Fernandinande ayon kay ...

Here's a fun bar bet my college math professor taught us: it is a virtual certainty that in a randomly determined group of 30 people or more at least one pair will share a birthday.

He was wrong. It's just under 70%, which is not a certainty, virtual or otherwise.

Mid-Life Lawyer ayon kay ...

One is the most over-hyped politician on the scene and the other, the most over-hyped actor.

James K ayon kay ...

Meryl showed herself to be a real piece of shit in the #metoo kerfuffle

And many years earlier putting her celebrity behind the fake alar scare, costing the apple industry $millions. Typical Hollywood self-righteous smug ignoramus. Yes, she does have certain similarities to Warren.

David Begley ayon kay ...

Today is also the birthday of actor-producer Bruce Campbell. I watched him in a movie last night.

Fernandinande ayon kay ...

You have to believe in astrology

About 25% of the general population does believe in astrology, which would be an IQ cutoff of 89.885. Approximately.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

So Trump's changes of position/action may indeed be unserious, but compared to this?

Laslo Spatula ayon kay ...

Today is also the same birthday as Clarence Thomas.

Maybe she can call him and talk about law.

And about being minorities.

I am Laslo.

Tank ayon kay ...

Actually, Warren has a point. They are both shameless demagogues and liars.

stevew ayon kay ...

"He was wrong. It's just under 70%, which is not a certainty, virtual or otherwise."

Virtual is my word, his was probably something along the lines of 'likely'. It was about 40 years ago so I don't remember.

I did make that bet though a couple of times, and won. Once was at work with a coworker. Turned out he and I had the same birthday. A bit of harmless fun.

Phil 314 ayon kay ...

A larger point about this post:

Do you ever feel like the Professor pushes a button and we all bark and make noise, hoping there’s a food pellet in the chute?

cacimbo ayon kay ...

Warren should fire the person in charge of her twitter account. That her campaign felt this photo of her locked in a frozen grimace was appealing and cutesy enough to accompany babble about a birthday twin reminds me that when AOC advised Warren on twitter to be yourself, AA said: "I agree with that advice, but I observe that it can only be followed by people who have a real self that anyone wants to hear talking." Warren and her campaign team obviously do not believe her "real self" is appealing.

Howard ayon kay ...

Is Meryl Streep a native original peoples too because high cheek bones?

Lurker21 ayon kay ...

Liz would do better courting Oprah than Meryl Streep.

And while Warren may not have any Oscars, if she gets the nomination, she will get a Grammy.

Bill, Hillary, Barack, Jimmy Carter, Al Franken and Al Gore (sort of - his book won but blessedly somebody else read it) all have Grammys.

Obama and Carter each have two; Bernie and Liz have been nominated, but didn't win.

Somewhere John Kerry is asking "Que suis je? Vichyssoise froid?"

Howard ayon kay ...

I've been saying that for 5-years Phil 3.1415

Howard ayon kay ...

As long as we don't have to see her in her birthday suit, it's all good

Laslo Spatula ayon kay ...

Howard said...
"As long as we don't have to see her in her birthday suit, it's all good"

Howard, I don't agree with you much of the time, but you DO have a sense of humor.

A nice quip now and then is like commenting Frebreze.

I am Laslo.

Howard ayon kay ...

Thanks Laslo, I should probably run the fart fan more.

Leland ayon kay ...

I share a birthday with several people I know, because apparently people like having sex in early Spring. I guess for some, Fall is better.

Anne in Rockwall, TX ayon kay ...

Well, crap. I share a birthday with Bill Clinton.

Chris N ayon kay ...

This comment would have been longer but I had to meet my birthday buddies for lunch: YouTube star Arden Rose, American rapper Desiigner, and American soul singer James Brown.

cronus titan ayon kay ...

I'm confused. I share a birthday with Angelina Jolie and King George III. I say with confidence that I would not free associate those names. Which one to choose? Or is crazy the common thread?

Unknown ayon kay ...

why is it fun? I share a birthday with a niece, a nephew, a great nephew, a good fried, a high school acquaintance, and Kevin Bacon. Might be interesting, not particularly fun.

Chris N ayon kay ...

***The music of James Brown moved race relations forward in this country and reached a global audience. Mr Brown took risks at a time when the Civil Rights movement was just gaining steam in our country's history. My campaign honors his lasting musical legacy and embraces the Civil Rights vision of an inclusive, diverse and verdant future.

Thank you.

Matt ayon kay ...

Meryl Streep achieved success through her ability to act.

So did Fauxcohontas. Don't know why she's selling herself short. Maybe this is one of those faux-humility things the politicians like to do.

cf ayon kay ...

in old-time Advertising, this was called "Borrowed Interest".
Like Warren's borrowing the suffering of indigenous peoples to advance at Harvard, she is here borrowing the star-power of a fellow (angry white) blonde to pretend it matters.

narciso ayon kay ...



She sees 1984 as a how to manual

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/presidential_tweets_and_a_scotus_sneak_peek.html

Chris N ayon kay ...

Due to growing public concern about this sensitive and important topic, I want all Americans to know my campaign manager has been fired. Together, we will build a nation in which all Americans prosper.

Danno ayon kay ...

Blogger 404 Page Not Found said...Elizabeth Warren: All the integrity of Hillary Clinton without the charm.

The word you should have used in place of "without the charm" is scold.

Jaq ayon kay ...

Women disproportionately believe in astrology, ghosts, angels, and socialism.

Jaq ayon kay ...

Meryl Streep achieved success through her ability to act.

Really?

madAsHell ayon kay ...

Is that a good picture for her?? I think that's her I'm-glad-to-be-wearing-dark-pants look.

Jaq ayon kay ...

Trump likes to call out Streep, so maybe there’s something she is playing on there. Gurl Power or whatever.

madAsHell ayon kay ...

Meryl Streep achieved success through her ability to act.

Did you learn NOTHING from the Harvey Weinstein saga??

gilbar ayon kay ...

hoping there’s a food pellet in the chute?
WAIT A MINUTE! you mean that there's NOT going to be food pellets? I thought it was just stuck
I'm SURE it's just stuck! There'll be pellets, soon!

Danno ayon kay ...

This appears to be another attempt by Warren to show she is like normal people. Like her have a beer moment. Everyone knows she is not.

EPIC FAIL!

Jaq ayon kay ...

I really hate those assholes who use the speakerphone for what should be a private conversation. Almost as much as I hate those bikers who use their high beams during the day.

Speakerphone says it’s all just one more performance for the camera. It’s like those Comey pictures of him reflecting in the forest, who’s holding the camera James?

Chris N ayon kay ...

***Reports show that America is far from the nation we could be, but a more just, equitable and inclusive future is possible. In light of recent events, I’m announcing mandatory racial equity and diversity awareness seminars for my entire campaign staff. I want to thank citizens and members of the press for increasing the visibility of this sensitive topic.

In no way does joking about the use of ‘James Brown’s bathroom’ indicate the kind of leadership this country so desperately needs.

Fernandinande ayon kay ...

Fun fact: Meryl Streep shares a birthday with about 8,800,000 people, or about sortofmaybe 145,000 people "to the year".

I am not now and never have been a member of that set of people.

BlueHen ayon kay ...

Not only do you and I share a birthday with Rush Limbaugh, we also share the date with Howard Stern. Personally, I find that hilarious -- the Howard Stern connection.

Paul ayon kay ...

Meryl Streep? So what? Geeze, an actress?

Chris N ayon kay ...

America has spoken and I’ve listened: Reparations are increasingly understood to be justice for the racial injustices of the past, equality for the inequalities of our Nation’s History. Today, I’m announcing reparations will become a central plank of this campaign and of a future Chris N administration.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Meryl Streep is an asshole.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper ayon kay ...

She hectors.

I'm not sure about etymology.

"Hector" - brings to mind scene from Troy: - Achilles shouting the name, calling him out to come and fight.

Jaq ayon kay ...

You know what would be a good movie? “Ricky and the Flash” where they used deep fake technology to replace Streep with almost any other actress. Rick Springfield’s garage band was great, what a shame to waste his performance.

Deb ayon kay ...

I just discovered I share a birthday with James Earl Ray and Osama Bin Laden. But also Chuck Norris and John Hamm, so there's that.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper ayon kay ...

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/may/31/meryl-streep-criticises-phrase-toxic-masculinity

Good mother parent.

Phil 314 ayon kay ...

As this post is about odds, subjects and our opinions about the subject surely someone has created a random generator blog that simply takes:

- a person: Robert Mueller
- a "hot button" issue: gun control
- generates generic text based on a google search "Robert Mueller's team has looked into the Trump campaign's relationship with the National Rifle Association during the 2016 campaign."
-and maybe an stereotypical internet "hook": "You won't believe what they found"

And includes some ads on the side to support the site.

Viola! The new economy

Anne in Rockwall, TX ayon kay ...

Continuing with the toxic masculinity theme.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/u-wisconsin-madison-penis-shaped-sculpture-to-come-down/

Phil 314 ayon kay ...

Day of the Dove

Wince ayon kay ...

Here's Meryl Streep saying...

"I prefer a lot of semen. I always have."

In German.

fleg9bo ayon kay ...

Google "famous birthdays on (your birthday), and join in the fun!

Tonya Harding and Rachel Dolezal. Made my day.

Jaq ayon kay ...

She’s got eyes like Little Orphan Annie. They seem to be saying “how cool is this that I get to run for president and talk to Merrill Streep? Whoadathunkit, little urchin from the reservation makes good!"

Wince ayon kay ...

And why does Warren have a cock ring hanging from her phone?

Bill Peschel ayon kay ...

hoping there’s a food pellet in the chute?

I was told there would be cake.

I've been saying that for 5-years Phil 3.1415

Are you feeling manipulated? And you're still here? I'm not sure how serious you are.

If were linked by birthdays, shouldn't we be linked also by deaths? On my birthday, H.L. Mencken and Freddie Prinz croaked. Mencken suffered a stroke eight years before that prevented him from writing, reading, and he could barely speak. Prinze shot himself in the head.

I think I'll think about my birthmates instead: Oprah and W.C. Fields.

Nichevo ayon kay ...

That Ungeblutzpunim she's got on looks like the face her Indian gggggggg had on while either scalping or being scalped. If he or she had ever existed.

The robot workshop has to turn out a better product. We're deep in the uncanny valley here.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent ayon kay ...

“Liz would do better courting Oprah than Meryl Streep.”

She strikes me as the type who’s viscerally uncomfortable around Black people. If she can’t drink a beer naturally she’s going to absolutely clown herself overdoing the Solid Soul Sister routine.

Quite apart from that, she’s just simply weird. You can sense the bugs crawling under her skin.

Kelly ayon kay ...

I’m annoyed by adults who make a big deal about their own birthday. It’s childish and it’s embarrassing.

Narr ayon kay ...

Salvador Dali (but not the same year).

Narr
And others, too numerous to list here

Inga...Allie Oop ayon kay ...
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Inga...Allie Oop ayon kay ...

“You have to believe in astrology or something like it to think that having the same date of birth as a particular person says anything about the kind of person you are... though talking about it (like talking about anything) says something about you.”

Where does Warren make any such claim? You must know first hand how annoying it is when people ascribe things to you that they imagined you meant. Your commenters have done it to you many times.

William ayon kay ...

Isaac Newton believed in astrology and alchemy. Working from his data points, he arrived at more valid conclusions than Marx did from his Blue Books. We, all of us, believe in many irrational things. The trick is to let go of those beliefs when the evidence warrants it.......It would be unusual if the moon and the stars and the movement of the tides had absolutely no effect on human behavior. I think people born in the inhospitable climate of winter have less trust in the kindness of fate than those born into a world where they didn't need the restrictions of swaddling clothes.....I was born on the same day as Edgar Allen Poe and Dolly Parton. The resemblances between the three of us are striking. There's something to this astrology business.

Shouting Thomas ayon kay ...

Lie-a-Watha smokes the peace pipe and goes on vision quest.

Heap big white girl scams the quota system so that she can create infinite government programs.

How in the hell does this lying con artist remain in the public arena after shitting her pants with the Injun bit?

I can see why Althouse doesn’t object. Rich white women like her were all, as you will recall, “just like blacks under Jim Crow.”

walter ayon kay ...

She also shares her birthdate with Chet Faker...

Shouting Thomas ayon kay ...

Inga,

The stench of chump is still all over you for getting conned by the Russia collusion hoax for three years.

I suggest you spend a long time in comment purgatory pondering your sins.

walter ayon kay ...

Althouse might appreciate that today is the birthdate of Giambattista Vico

mockturtle ayon kay ...

If I were a serious candidate, I could think of better names to drop than those of Hollywood.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

I am, apparently, the most famous person born on my birth date. I share the same date with Tim Spehr. Yes, that Tim Spehr.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

You are more likely to believe in astrology if you are a water sign.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

Yes, adults who go out of their way to mention their birthdays like this are kind of pathetic. And if it was Warren's staff who encouraged this, then she has staffed up with a bunch of brown-nosers.

mockturtle ayon kay ...

Phil 314 asks: Do you ever feel like the Professor pushes a button and we all bark and make noise, hoping there’s a food pellet in the chute?

Why, yes! Every day. Arf, arf!

BJM ayon kay ...

*Cringe* Another "Hello, fellow kids" moment.

What is with the Dem 2020 candidates? Govt control of the economy and make all the things free is not a message that resonates with normal people and/or addresses their daily concerns. I'm beginning to think that the Dems are blowing off this election to rid themselves of older/white and younger non-viable candidates.

Roughcoat ayon kay ...

Limbaugh has been known to say politics is show business for the ugly

By the same token: show business is politics for the stupid.

rcocean ayon kay ...

Everyone has a 1/365 chance of sharing the same birth-date. There are 320 million Americans, so you probably share a birthday with almost 1 million people. Of course, I've read that births aren't evenly distributed throughout the year. You get more sex in the winter, and accordingly more births in the fall.

rcocean ayon kay ...

Warren would win a lot more votes with a bag over her head.

rcocean ayon kay ...

Streep is scum. Anyone who defended and covered for Harvey Wein-pig is contemptible.

walter ayon kay ...

I'd like to see her visit a palm reader.

AllenS ayon kay ...

My birthday is Nov 10th. Do you know who else had that birthday? Jeff Cole, that's who. Jeff lived about a mile from me. He died a couple of years ago.

Ralph L ayon kay ...

My mother and her brother both married people born on Oct 13. My aunt was pleased to find out--in her 50's--that she was a year younger than my dad. We weren't sure either until then. In HS, my dad dated a classmate born on the same day. Her father started the city's tradition of fireworks on Halloween, I think because July 4th was rained out one year.

J. Farmer ayon kay ...

It only takes 23 randomly chosen people to reach a probability of 50% that a pair will have the same birthday. It's the birthday problem.

rightguy ayon kay ...

Born in teepee same day as the famous script reader Meryl Streep.

As they say, DC is Hollywood for unattractive people.

Bruce Hayden ayon kay ...

What I don’t get is why Pocahontas Warren thinks that this is really that cool. The only people I have ever met who thought that Streep was that good of an actress were white college educated liberal women, a constituency that Warren probably already has locked up. For me, there was always the question of whether I would like her in real life, and the answer was always a resounding “no”. Always came across to me like a pretty nasty ignorant piece of work. Could I see her with Crooked Hillary? In a heartbeat. Both have the warmth of rattle snakes. And now Warren is trying to have some of that rub off on her.

Michael Fitzgerald ayon kay ...

"Meryl Streep is highly respected." Yup, by the same degenerate Democrat party scum who, like her, aided and abetted Harvey Weinstein, gave Roman Polanski a standing ovation, and sat on their hands when the academy honored Elia Kazan because he spoke out against the dirty rotten communist party in Hollywood. Kazan was right. McCarthy was right. Streep is scum.

Jim at ayon kay ...

I really do hope she wins the nomination.

Because if anybody has the potential to be a worse candidate than Hillary Clinton, it's Warren.

Bay Area Guy ayon kay ...

Senator Paleface is advancing in the polls. Yippee!

Dukakis in a dress, with nicer eyebrows.

Peachy ayon kay ...

ST @ 11:13 - that's funny right there.

Pianoman ayon kay ...

I share the same birthdate and year as Melissa Sue Anderson and Tracey Thorne.

Not sure what that says about me ...

Peachy ayon kay ...

Streep isn't merely an asshole, she's also an over-rated actress. She also lives in a mega mansion behind a wall.

Fuc her.

Marcus Bressler ayon kay ...

Streep is NOT beloved.

I share the same birthday (though not year) of my second wife's first husband. Try to keep up.

THEOLDMAN

elkh1 ayon kay ...

Question: Does Meryl have native American blood?

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

Robert Boyle, Virginia Woolf, Robert Burns, Alicia Keys

Not bad

Wilbur ayon kay ...

February 3: Felix Mendelssohn, Norman Rockwell, Fran Tarkenton, Kerry Von Erich.

Whenever I was asked my sign, I borrowed a line from Steve Martin and said "I'm a Feces".

rcocean ayon kay ...

"Meryl Streep is highly respected."

Actually she isn't. She has one talent. She can pretend to be other people, make faces, and read lines that give to her. She's just another heartless, brainless, show-biz phony.

And frankly, she's overrated at doing that. Sometimes she good, but most of the time you can see the wheels turning. She's "ACTING". And she has no personality. As Hepburn said about her: "click, click, click"

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

Joseph Goebbels, Kate Jackson, Winona Ryder, and Bob Ross. That's a Nazi, a Charlie's Angel, a nitwit, and the greatest painter of all time...

Narr ayon kay ...

The Fated Stars by Benson Bobrick is an entertaining popular history of astrology.

As mentioned, Newton himself gave at least some credence to things we know better about, but in that he was typical. Astronomy/Astrology and Chemistry/Alchemy weren't as distinct as we now know them to be. The whole scientific revolution was the process of working out the differences, IMO.

Narr
Western porcelain was a spinoff of the search for the Philosophers' Stone

Gospace ayon kay ...

Me, President Donald John Trump, Flag Day. All of which means nothing in the grand scheme of things... except...my older sister was born a few days later in June. She was terribly upset by people flying the Flag for my birthday but not hers. In our sixties now and she's never gotten over it.

AZ Bob ayon kay ...

Warren put out a live video from her kitchen that looked like it was designed to make her look human. She paused her monologue to take a sip of beer. She had her husband pretend to drop in on her. It was poorly staged and not at all spontaneous. This tweet is in the same vein. She has no ability to see how she is viewed by others. This is something similar to Asperger’s Syndrome.

Bay Area Guy ayon kay ...

Warren has 1/1024 the talent and good looks of Ms. Streep.

Beasts of England ayon kay ...

'She has no ability to see how she is viewed by others.'

Perhaps not, but so far she appears to be the hardest working (campaigning) of the twenty-five candidates from her party. She stands to shine the first night of their debates (Beto is the only other major candidate on the first night) and I think she has a legitimate shot to be their nominee.

Rory ayon kay ...

That's just how Ned Devine looked.

loudogblog ayon kay ...

By calling it a "fun fact," Warren is saying that it shouldn't be taken seriously. I know a woman who was born on the same day as me and we are extremely different people; except for the facts that we both went to the same University, both were theater majors, worked on the same shows together, took the same classes together.....hey! Wait a minute....

Just an old country lawyer ayon kay ...

Me:Ayatollah Khomeini:Anna Magdalena Bach:Tommy Lasorda. Fun times with my birthday 🎂 buddies!

ken in tx ayon kay ...

In the Philippines, I learned that the correct term is Birthday Anniversary. You only have one birthday. All the others are anniversaries of it.

Fen ayon kay ...

Smells like a humblebrag to remind everyone to get you a gift.

Fen ayon kay ...

By calling it a "fun fact," Warren is saying that it shouldn't be taken seriously.

No, by calling it a "fun fact" Warring is saying it should be take seriously while pretending it's not meant to be taken seriously. I do this all the time. And as a presidential candidate, nothing she posts online is done without layers of consultants and PR agents weighing in.

Fen ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Fen ayon kay ...

About 25% of the general population does believe in astrology, which would be an IQ cutoff of 89.885. Approximately.

I wonder if the people who do NOT believe in astrology are doing so for the wrong reasons?

For me, it's not a matter of whether the supernatural exists. It's the "Prescience Trap" that causes me to avoid it altogether; works like this:

Fortune teller advises you bet on #9 at the track. You do so and win $500 on horses.
Next day, fortune teller advises you bring an umbrella, and it rains out of nowhere.
Day after, fortune teller advises you not go into work, and your building catches fire.

See what's starting to happen? You life is now being ruled by Prescience. You begin to live it according to what your astrologer tells you in the newspaper each day. You're trapped (and this isn't even getting into how powerful the human mind is, how it can trick you into something like a slip-n-fall accident because "She" told you not to climb any step ladders this weekend).

Frank Herbert's God Emperor of Dune covered this trap pretty well. See, it doesn't even matter if astrology is accurate or not, because it's really about Free Will.

"...All preordained, A prisoner in chains..."

Known Unknown ayon kay ...

This will certainly lock down the Sophie's Choice voters.

Narr ayon kay ...

Humans have no choice but to believe in free will.

Narr
FIFY

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