Do these people who claim to work 80-hour weeks actually WORK 80 hours a week or just BILL 80 hours a week? Also, you'd think someone who works that hard for the company would be so indispensable that the boss would say, sure, dude, take that Mental Health Day and then come back and keep burning your candle at both ends for us. Apparently that was not the case.
We are all dispensable. The market can absorb your 80 hours of ceaseless toil or she will persist with 0 hours of your effort to make it all work. From what I understand: people with a desire for soda are still finding a way to get their want satisfied in 2019, regardless of the 0/80 differential of his being involved since 2009.
Life's a journey not a destination sayeth S Tyler. Let some find meaning in the 80 hours down at HQ, let others find it relaxing on a park bench. The dude abides, the corporate lawyer can abide, the dog can abide, the pilot flying to Barcelona can abide, the park maintenance staff can abide. There is nothing new under the sun.
Clyde got to this before me. I encountered quite a few 60 hour a week claimers over my three corporate careers, in five companies, in four states. They invariably wanted you to know it. I was not one of them. But funny thing was whenever I did come in early or work late, or come in on weekends, they were almost never around. I generally had the place to myself. Is 80 hours a week the new standard bullshit claim, or was this guy just one upping the 60 hour claimants around him?
Yeah attorneys can confuse billable time with clock time. Based on my experience with American me moving to Spain, there's a fair chance he's gay, and Catalonia is the spot. Just a guess.
That is not NY. And after ten years at a company he should not have to ask for a day off, he should simply take one. Clearly not an 80 hour a week guy.
If y'all wanna read about a similar, yet much more ennobling, life experience I'll suggest, as Insta did, you read Chris Arnade's essay at First Things. https://www.firstthings.com/article/2019/06/back-row-america
I put in plenty of 80 hour weeks during my years at a big NY law firm during the 80s and 90s. That would be hours at the office. Hours billed would be a smaller number—but not that much smaller. 7 days a week, working till after midnight many nights: that could go on for weeks at a time. When the deal was done you could dial it way back. But only until the next deal got going.
I only put in 80 hours of work in a week once in my life when we had a short deadline to get a sufficient quantity of a drug candidate ready for a large scale toxicology study got suddenly scheduled at the last moment.
On the other hand, I am in Barcelona at the moment and it’s great. But I am a tourist. And retired. And here for three days with my brothers on a trip to Spain to get reacquainted. There is a limited amount of stuff to do and the place is full of global tourists. So many that they are financing the completion of the Gaude’ church in six more years. Graffiti is in, as you can see in the picture. Lots of great food.
"And yet he sits on a park bench in NYC with an expensive leather jacket and boots? I'm going to call BS on this."
1. That's not NYC.
2. He didn't say he stopped working entirely. Presumably, he's working at a new job for fewer hours a week than his corporate law job required, giving him more time to actually experience and enjoy his life.
My husband typically works sixty hour work weeks. In the past that would include two or three hours each night with his computer on our couch after our son was in bed. Eighty hour weeks were infrequent. There was the time his company was working on finalizing a settlement prior to an earnings call. He went to work Monday morning, came home Tuesday night at midnight for a shower, returned to work, and finally came home Wednesday at 10:00 pm. He was back at work bright and early Thursday morning.
If he asked for a day off they wouldn’t deny it. But he wouldn’t ask for a day off if it would cause difficulty at work.
"And after ten years at a company he should not have to ask for a day off, he should simply take one."
He didn't say how long he worked there, only how long ago he quit. I would guess that he retired. At what point do you have enough to retire? It's a balance that includes how much you're enjoying your work.
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So what changed, other than the city? It was all about him before, and it's still all about him.
Do these people who claim to work 80-hour weeks actually WORK 80 hours a week or just BILL 80 hours a week? Also, you'd think someone who works that hard for the company would be so indispensable that the boss would say, sure, dude, take that Mental Health Day and then come back and keep burning your candle at both ends for us. Apparently that was not the case.
“It’s been super fucking chill” translated “I really fucked my life up”
"I used to leave my dog alone all day. Then I abandoned my dog entirely."
I wouldn't say I've been missing it, Bob.
-Peter, Office Space (1999)
"My wife and kids still haven't found me."
"I used to leave my dog alone all day. Then I abandoned my dog entirely."
The dog abandonment bothered me too. He might be chill, but he's not cool.
As someone who worked to grow shareholders flipping value all flipping weekend, fantasies of escape is sometimes all that keeps us going.
And yet he sits on a park bench in NYC with an expensive leather jacket and boots? I'm going to call BS on this.
Evidently you can't buy jeans in France that fit.
Or maybe it's a EU problem.
“I used to be a corporate attorney for Coca-Cola."
He looks like the guy "Ellis" who...
Thirty-one years ago this guy negotiated a Coke from Hans Gruber in Die Hard.
Doesn't he miss his dog?
We are all dispensable. The market can absorb your 80 hours of ceaseless toil or she will persist with 0 hours of your effort to make it all work. From what I understand: people with a desire for soda are still finding a way to get their want satisfied in 2019, regardless of the 0/80 differential of his being involved since 2009.
Life's a journey not a destination sayeth S Tyler. Let some find meaning in the 80 hours down at HQ, let others find it relaxing on a park bench. The dude abides, the corporate lawyer can abide, the dog can abide, the pilot flying to Barcelona can abide, the park maintenance staff can abide. There is nothing new under the sun.
Clyde got to this before me. I encountered quite a few 60 hour a week claimers over my three corporate careers, in five companies, in four states. They invariably wanted you to know it. I was not one of them. But funny thing was whenever I did come in early or work late, or come in on weekends, they were almost never around. I generally had the place to myself. Is 80 hours a week the new standard bullshit claim, or was this guy just one upping the 60 hour claimants around him?
Yeah attorneys can confuse billable time with clock time. Based on my experience with American me moving to Spain, there's a fair chance he's gay, and Catalonia is the spot. Just a guess.
That is not NY. And after ten years at a company he should not have to ask for a day off, he should simply take one. Clearly not an 80 hour a week guy.
Corporate attorneys don’t bill hours. They are salaried.
I quit my big firm job 3 years ago after 10 years and started my own law practice. Love it.
Stuff (weathly) white people like?
Do these people who claim to work 80-hour weeks actually WORK 80 hours a week or just BILL 80 hours a week?
Nobody can do productive "brain work" 80 hours a week. They're at the office 80 hours. How much of that is actual productive work? Maybe 20 hours.
If y'all wanna read about a similar, yet much more ennobling, life experience I'll suggest, as Insta did, you read Chris Arnade's essay at First Things.
https://www.firstthings.com/article/2019/06/back-row-america
I put in plenty of 80 hour weeks during my years at a big NY law firm during the 80s and 90s. That would be hours at the office. Hours billed would be a smaller number—but not that much smaller. 7 days a week, working till after midnight many nights: that could go on for weeks at a time. When the deal was done you could dial it way back. But only until the next deal got going.
˙He said, sitting on his bed.'
At least he isn't complaining about the lack of a Father's Day card from his dog.
I only put in 80 hours of work in a week once in my life when we had a short deadline to get a sufficient quantity of a drug candidate ready for a large scale toxicology study got suddenly scheduled at the last moment.
On the other hand, I am in Barcelona at the moment and it’s great. But I am a tourist. And retired. And here for three days with my brothers on a trip to Spain to get reacquainted. There is a limited amount of stuff to do and the place is full of global tourists. So many that they are financing the completion of the Gaude’ church in six more years. Graffiti is in, as you can see in the picture. Lots of great food.
Time to move on.
"And yet he sits on a park bench in NYC with an expensive leather jacket and boots? I'm going to call BS on this."
1. That's not NYC.
2. He didn't say he stopped working entirely. Presumably, he's working at a new job for fewer hours a week than his corporate law job required, giving him more time to actually experience and enjoy his life.
Not much of a dog dad. He should have brunch with the cat sister - maybe she'll throw a fork at him too.
My husband typically works sixty hour work weeks. In the past that would include two or three hours each night with his computer on our couch after our son was in bed. Eighty hour weeks were infrequent. There was the time his company was working on finalizing a settlement prior to an earnings call. He went to work Monday morning, came home Tuesday night at midnight for a shower, returned to work, and finally came home Wednesday at 10:00 pm. He was back at work bright and early Thursday morning.
If he asked for a day off they wouldn’t deny it. But he wouldn’t ask for a day off if it would cause difficulty at work.
"And after ten years at a company he should not have to ask for a day off, he should simply take one."
He didn't say how long he worked there, only how long ago he quit. I would guess that he retired. At what point do you have enough to retire? It's a balance that includes how much you're enjoying your work.
"So what changed, other than the city? It was all about him before, and it's still all about him. "
Who should it be all about, and why?
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