... you can talk brown talk or whatever you like.
The image comes from the 1869 book, "The Slang Dictionary: Or, the Vulgar Words, Street Phrases, and 'Fast' Expressions of High and Low Society."
March 10, 2019
At the Brown Café...
The image comes from the 1869 book, "The Slang Dictionary: Or, the Vulgar Words, Street Phrases, and 'Fast' Expressions of High and Low Society."
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No Brown Nose?
As a comic, I am familiar with an expression and their associated forms, "going blue," to "go blue," "working blue" that means to work "dirty" or to use profanity. I see it is mentioned in the definition of "brown talk." (I guess this means that the terms relating to blue date back as far as 1869. Were probably used by performers in burlesque houses and in vaudeville theaters, and then through to the current day. Although I converse with very few young comics, so the line might have stopped with them.)
No Brown Note?
Just make sure it’s the right shade of brown. Too light-skinned and you are wrong for the part.
Kamala Harris wants to change human nature.
That strategy always means mass graves.
Seems like the folks at the WSJ aren't smart enough to read Althouse, and realize that windmills keep making power even when the wind stops blowing
"Coal and gas generating plants have to be kept on standby and ramped up to cover the shortfall resulting from still air and darkness"
The book is on archive.org in several formats, as is the similar "Project Gutenberg EBook of 1811 Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue".
Brownshirts making a comeback.
I am so sick of wind and solar being called "clean energy." How is hundreds of square miles of apparatus in any way "clean?"
power even when the wind stops blowing ??
Brown-outs
When Tank hears brown, he thinks...UPS.
As a comic, I am familiar with an expression and their associated forms, "going blue," to "go blue," "working blue" that means to work "dirty" or to use profanity.
The funny thing is bluenoses only like brown talk.
Used to be that other truck drivers labelled UPS trucks/drivers on the radio as Buster Brown. Not sure if that's still the case.
Ugh tulsi and miss hirono, refuses to condemn omar.
Corbyn aide Murray says Hitler was the worst because he killed white people, what a tool
Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
Sold in a market down in New Orleans
Scarred old slaver knows he's doing alright
Hear him whip the women just around midnight
Brown sugar-- how come you taste so good?
Brown sugar-- just like a young girl should
Winning the future:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/andrew-murray-hitler-is-the-most-hated-because-he-killed-whites-m3lt0qx78&ved=2ahUKEwjq0vPahvngAhWq11kKHSJ_DBEQxfQBMAB6BAgHEAQ&usg=AOvVaw22K69MJt9rOoxNtzNa8TJa
There was a funny plot point during John Byrne's run on The Fantastic Four. For some reason (which I can't recall) Reed had sent the Fantasticar back to the 1930s, where it, of course, stood out. He had only a limited selection of holographic disguises for it, and decided on "UPS truck" because Those always look about 40 years out of date anyway (approx quote).
Brownian Motion
Like the doctors police box:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/433429-gabbard-defends-omar-i-dont-believe-she-intended-to-cause-any-offense%3famp
Captain Marvel would be a better movie
if she smiled more.
I had mentioned trevanian's shibumi in the past. I picked up a boxed set of his four novels including the eiger sanction and the least known one the loo
"Ugh tulsi and miss hirono, refuses to condemn omar."
Why should they?
It's just Jews we are talking about. Except for a few Jewish billionaires, who aren't Jewish-Jewish, they are dispensable.
Of course, anti-Semitism has a long history in the West, but the left eagerly cultivated its own brand of Jew hatred. Nothing new there.
The left-Islam coalition is new. Eventually, it should show some cracks--unless, of course, the Omars of the world stop being Muslim-Muslims. Are we sure Allah is on board with GND?
You would think she would or have more of a personality, scarlet and hayley not being superheroes still displayed more heroic characteristics
Captain Marvel would be a better movie if she smiled more.
True that, other Unknown. Not a bad movie, but certainly not in the Marvel top 5.
"How is hundreds of square miles of apparatus in any way "clean?""
Maybe the test is: will it kill you if yur locked in yur garage w/ it running.
If the moving windmill blades smack ya, yur gonna have a problem cause you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now, the PV panels are probably safe, and if ya gots LIBs those are probably OK in most situations, too.
OTOH, fire up a coal plant in the garage, and there's no way you survive.
OTOOH, cow farts in the garage may safer than any of these other three scenarios. Not to mention that if ya kill the cow you can have your steak and eat it stench-free, too.
I don't think there's a lot of these folks that could butcher a cow.
To be fair, I couldn't either..
I hang w/ a fair number of folks who do that.
The thing that they all seem to highlight when they describe the process is that you gotta get the reproductive organs out fast. To maximize the taste of the meat.
Presumably they're right (I've never done it), and the reason they all emphasize this is because it is critical. But, as an outsider it always seems odd that they're so into jabber about this aspect. They sure as hell know I'm not taking notes cause I'm about to do this myself. So, why so much focus on this? And, what does it mean? Cut off the dick?
Anywho, I just laugh along, and move the conversation along.
Michael Walzer, one of the few honest lefties left, in Tablet:
"Omar is entitled to her falsehoods; it is, as we say, a free country. But the falsehoods have to be given their proper name. If Jewish Democrats don’t get tough about this, they will soon find themselves unable to be tough about anything. They will be pushed out of the Democratic Party just as Jews are being pushed out of the Labour Party in the U.K. Long ago, August Bebel gave a name to left-wing anti-Semitism: “the socialism of fools.” Now the fools are in Congress."
Drop brown.
Who say they want to do anything about it, there isnt any evidence of that.
I mistakenly logged into my madAsHell account from a new machine. Google wants me to confirm the new computer.
Fuck'em!! I need to log-in from VM's with spoofed MAC addresses.
Google did that to me once when I had a newly reloaded laptop in a cafe. I was like I have to carry a cellphone around so I can comment on blogs?.
Ridiculous.
"Fuck'em!! I need to log-in from VM's with spoofed MAC addresses."
Sure, re them, but what about all of yur good pals 'round here?
How will we recognize you in the real world?
If I'm rollin' in emerald town, do you have a rat sticker on your car?
As far as Omar goes, Democrats who are Jewish won’t jump on the Trump train because there is one antiSemite who got elected to Congress. Omar came and she’ll go. Democratic Jewish voters have been around for a long time and are smart enough to see this woman will not affect much of anything.
Had one of those boozy brunches with my mother this afternoon. The kind with cheap "bottomless mimosas" and expensive bloody marys with the now ubiquitous bacon garnish. "So when're you and Patrick going to give me my Asian grandbaby?" my mother blurted out. She knows my stock reply by now but still likes to needle me.
I have been with my partner, who is Thai, for 11 years. When we first got together, we were in our mid-20s, first beginning to enjoy the fruits of our careers, and much too selfish and self-involved to give any thought to children. Whenever the topic did come up, it was quickly dismissed. When the subject eventually came up more formally, after some consideration, we both agreed that it was not something either of us really wanted.
On the subject of gay parenting, I have always been ambivalent. On the one hand, I obviously know many gay individuals who have chosen to have children by a variety of methods, and I have a great fondness and respect for their families. On the other hand, I fundamentally believe that a child deserves a mother and a father. And to purposely deny a child a portion of their patrimony seems cruel to me. Even Machiavelli said that "men forget more easily the death of their father than the loss of their patrimony." Not to mention, pretty much every piece of psychological and sociological research we know of suggests that the two-parent family is the gold standard for rearing children. Mothers and fathers each have unique roles to play and contributions to make to the process.
So I give my mother a condensed version of the above argument. I get the usual riposte. "You know correlation does not equal causation. Those single-parent homes are usually very chaotic, they're more often poor, there's serial father figures going in and out. You can give a child a great life." Me: "Parents should sacrifice for their children. They shouldn't ask their children to sacrifice for them."
While I'd never admit it to her, the certitude of my previous position has begun to dampen. My skepticism towards gay parenting remains but is easily overshadowed by a kind of existential dread. When you do not succeed in reproducing, you are putting an end to a process that has been unfolding for the last millions of years. Our ancestors survived the Cretaceous period for fuck's sake. When you are handed the opportunity for a brief period of experience in this carnival called life, you really owe it to the past that ticket down to the next generation. Pretty much every day for the last 21 years, 7665 days, my body has been prepared to contribute half the equation to the next generation.
On a less grandiose (but more megalomaniacal) note, I think I would be a pretty awesome father. In the course of my professional career, I have seen countless children treated with a level of callousness and cruelty that would shock the most hardened frontline veterans of the system. I've seen steely old family court judges break down on the bench. I've had therapists with more than a quarter century experience in the system call me up in hysterics over the contents of a probable cause affidavit. I know child protection investigators who have asked for referrals to "someone to talk to" after they've spent 40 hours meticulously documenting any number of acts of depraved mental, emotional, physical, and sexual abuse exacted upon very young children. To say that such a profession can give you a jaundiced view of the family is an understatement.
Why I've chosen this time and place to share this with this group, I have not the slightest idea. But I do feel better for having said it.
Cheers.
The best podcast on the tubes talks about browns quite often.
And, they had the Brown who loves the kids on, not too long ago.
Are you golden years-ers ready to get brown?
If so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7bclsJfyuw
“Why I've chosen this time and place to share this with this group, I have not the slightest idea. But I do feel better for having said it.
Cheers.”
I think you’d make a terrific parent. Adoption or natural? Whichever, you’ll be great.
I should say adoption or biological.
I'm still uber yute (well less than 40).
And, raising a kid not mine from the get go. Best thing eva.
And, the mom is pretty great too.
Not cookie cutter. But perfection.
IMHO.
Go for it, Farmer. There is a huge slice of your humanity that can only be realized by being a parent. Yes, some people realize their inhumanity when they become parents but fuck them. They're not us.
Plus, your kid would almost certainly be a huge smartass. In a good way, natch.
@Inga:
I should say adoption or biological.
Biological. Adoption is ruled out for all kinds of irrational, but nonetheless human, reasons. The plan would be ultimately two children. Two eggs donated from the same woman, one fertilized by me and the other by my partner. The fertilized eggs would then be carried by a surrogate. A number of organizations exist to facilitate the process, but it is quite involved and quite expensive. From start to finish, the process costs in the low six figures per child. I know several people who have done it, and I would be lying if there is not some level of envy at seeing a completed family unit, however askew it may be from the sociobiological ideal.
The clock is ticking.
Don't feel at ease because the process seems removed re biological clock.
Biology knows stuff.
IMHO.
“Biological. Adoption is ruled out for all kinds of irrational, but nonetheless human, reasons. The plan would be ultimately two children. Two eggs donated from the same woman, one fertilized by me and the other by my partner. The fertilized eggs would then be carried by a surrogate. A number of organizations exist to facilitate the process, but it is quite involved and quite expensive. From start to finish, the process costs in the low six figures per child. I know several people who have done it, and I would be lying if there is not some level of envy at seeing a completed family unit, however askew it may be from the sociobiological ideal.”
Wow, that’s quite an undertaking, but as you say, it’s been done. I think it’s a great idea to use donated eggs by the same woman. So the surrogate carries the donated egg or will she be the one donating her egg and acting as the surrogate? How interesting, you’ll need to keep us up to date
Inga,
Two different folks.
This stuff is uber common in the tech hubs.
Lots of 40++ gals w/ wee ones in restaurants. Not a mystery.
@The Cracker Emcee Refulgent:
There is a huge slice of your humanity that can only be realized by being a parent.
Well put and certainly part of the allure. I am a fanatical devotee of the Delphic maxim to "know thyself." My mentor was a student of Murray Bowen and his system theory of the family. Differentiation of self and use of self as therapeutic techniques are paramount within the system. And yet, even the most disciplined self-reflection and self-analysis can only hope to reveal a slight shadow of your self. Your true self is reflected in the relationships you have with other people, and none more so than with your parents and with your children.
Farmer
"So when're you and Patrick going to give me my Asian grandbaby?""
.. contribute half the equation to the next generation...
..I would be lying if there is not some level of envy at seeing a completed family unit,
Remove these things from your thought process.
Good luck to you and Patric.
“Your true self is reflected in the relationships you have with other people, and none more so than with your parents and with your children.”
I couldn’t agree with this more.
The continuing problem posed by certain true believers:
"...Defeated but unrepentant, some jihadists were seen limping out of their besieged final bastion in eastern Syria still praising ISIS and promising bloody vengeance against its enemies, reporters on the ground said.
The skeletal and dishevelled figures shuffling out of the smouldering ashes of the 'caliphate' may look like a procession of zombies, but their devotion seems intact.
At an outpost for US-backed forces outside the besieged village of Baghouz, ten women stood in front of journalists, pointing their index fingers to the sky in a gesture used by ISIS supporters to proclaim the oneness of God.
They shouted in unison: 'The Islamic State is here to stay!' Most refuse to disclose their names or nationalities.'"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6789583/Thousands-inside-scrap-ISIS-territory.html
@Inga:
Wow, that’s quite an undertaking, but as you say, it’s been done. I think it’s a great idea to use donated eggs by the same woman. So the surrogate carries the donated egg or will she be the one donating her egg and acting as the surrogate? How interesting, you’ll need to keep us up to date
The entire process is done with a Gattaca-esque level of comfort and ease that can be a little disconcerting. It starts with a reproductive endocrinologist, which is basically an OB/GYN who has done a fellowship in reproductive medicine following the completion of their residency. Then there is a basically a catalog of egg donors in which a huge amount of demographic background about the donor is given (e.g. age, occupation, educational background, etc.). The real expense is the surrogate, since you basically have to cover all of their obstetric care plus additional fees for the service itself.
@FullMoon:
Remove these things from your thought process.
Good luck to you and Patric.
Easier said than done, but I take your point. Thank you.
Also, IMO it’s better to have the surrogate carry the baby from a egg not her own. I know surrogates do it, but it’s got to be damn hard giving up one’s biological child at the end. Surrogates must have to be special sorts of people. Donating an unfertized egg is much easier emotionally, obviously.
I'm in no big hurry to see Capt. Marvel, but when it makes the Netflix rounds, I'll see it. I saw an interview with Brie Larson on GMA. Michael Strahan was asking about her workout routine. She talked about how rigorous it was and how strong she had become. Michael Strahan, the ex NFL star, professed awe and respect for her abilities. There were no jokes. The interview was done with solemn respect for the physical capabilities of women. Apparently a female Marvel superhero is a Great Leap Forward in the emancipation of women. Wonder Woman and Katniss Everdeen and Doctora Who don't count. It has to be a Marvel superhero with her own picture.......Brie Larson looks like a bit of a pill. Maybe she's a good actress, but she sure doesn't make you want to see the picture. In recent Marvel movies, there's been a lot of light banter. She doesn't look like she'd be good at light banter.
"The real expense is the surrogate, since you basically have to cover all of their obstetric care plus additional fees for the service itself."
Technically, the real expense happens post birth.
Just sayin'
The entire process is done with a Gattaca-esque level of comfort and ease that can be a little disconcerting. It starts with a reproductive endocrinologist, which is basically an OB/GYN who has done a fellowship in reproductive medicine following the completion of their residency. Then there is a basically a catalog of egg donors in which a huge amount of demographic background about the donor is given (e.g. age, occupation, educational background, etc.). The real expense is the surrogate, since you basically have to cover all of their obstetric care plus additional fees for the service itself.”
Fascinating! You MUST now keep us up to date (don’t feel pressured, lol).
@StephenFearby:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6789583/Thousands-inside-scrap-ISIS-territory.html
The US has been in a state of threat inflation and panic over Islamic jidhadism for two decades. The fact is that it has always been a relatively weak force that poses little or no threat to US security interests. Al Qaeda was a small group run by a couple of talented Arab fundraisers who managed to carry off a spectacular attack by exploiting the unknown and cracks in the system. Their ability to commandeer the aircraft was based almost completely on the element of surprise and was not even able to last the entire duration of that attack.
Some tightening of domestic security combined with special forces and CIA paramilitary options would have been a more than sufficient response. Almost everything we have done sense has been useless or counterproductive, with the exception of the original dismantling of Al Qaeda, which was pretty much well wrapped up by December 2001.
@anti-de Sitter space:
Technically, the real expense happens post birth.
Just sayin'
Undoubtedly! But that is whole other category of expense.
I'm in no big hurry to see Capt. Marvel, but when it makes the Netflix rounds, I'll see it. I saw an interview with Brie Larson on GMA.
It was decent. A little banter between Danvers & Fury, but yeah, in general she wasn't having a lot of fun.
I've been reading one fan's retrospective on each episode of Xena from back in the day. What a wonderful show that could do comedy one week and high tragedy the next. The closing episode of Season 4 is one of the most incredible hours of television ever. And both Lawless and O'Connor wasted ever since.
And the Hercules series that switched between thr ancient setting and the Hollywood sound srage.
I'm in no big hurry to see Capt. Marvel
In The X-men canon, Carol Danvers is defeated by Rogue, a future X-men who begins her story as a villain under the corrupt influence of Mystique. Rogue's mutant power is the ability to absorb people's energy through physical contact (she also absorbs a small piece of their memories and psyche). However, in her battle with Ms. Marvel, Rogue is manipulated into holding on to her for an extended period of time. This results in Rogue permanently absorbing Ms. Marvel's powers of flight and superhuman strength and leaves her comatose. The encounter also leaves Ms. Marvel's psyche trapped inside of Rogue's mind and battling against her in revenge. This storyline was covered in the early 90's animated X-men series that has hitherto reproduced major storylines from the comic (e.g. Phoenix sage, Days of Future Past), with so much more intelligence and depth than anything any of the big Hollywood live action films have been able to achieve.
Hercules was OK, but Sorbo is not the actor Lawless is at all and the ethos was different as well, R.J. Stewart brought a completely different feel as the Xena head writer.
That's probably unfilmable though. But the eat they turned the skrulls into a variation of alien nation
They were the survivors of a whole action block in the early 90s
I just checked, google doesn't have a translator for nerd. I'm completely lost in this thread.
Anywho, I guess that means I should fully focus on work.
Unlike the fiction they've been shoveling at us for two years
https://t.co/ossAZE9vfD @dailycaller — Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) March 11, 2019
@Unknown:
Hercules was OK, but Sorbo is not the actor Lawless is at all and the ethos was different as well, R.J. Stewart brought a completely different feel as the Xena head writer.
I lived the old Kevin Sorbo Herclues series, if only to see Anthony Quinn playing Zeus.
They were the survivors of a whole action block in the early 90s
It was an interesting time when you could sell a syndicated action show with fairly good production values to independent stations (with WGN to get you out on cable as well). Now you would have to go to a streaming service for that kind of budget. (Not that they didn't pinch every penny, but the Tappert New Zealand shows got a true film look. Some of the others, Relic Hunter & whatnot, not so much)
They were unpretentious even corny, everything has to be serious like miss pickle wedge now, in the 70s there were hokey action series like six million dollar man with the clunky sound effects, the spidermam was perhaps the most hackneyed.
The Highlander series with Adrian Paul, for example.
Yes that was a favorite although a little more pretentious look ar the carp they now have on wgn for instance, or even channel 39
Interestingly both Sorbo & Lawless had health issues that affected the shows. Lawless broke her hip doing a stunt on the Leno show and they wrote in Bruce Campbell as possessed by her spirit for one episode. As you would expect, he was great.
Sorbo had some sort of annuresim that reqired time off. I think the dodge was that some god turned him into a pig to butter up Hera or something, so he could do a couple of episodes just doing voice overs on a "Babe" plot.
Do you remember when we used to sing "Sha la la la la la la la la la la te da"?
Oh Bruce Campbell quite nearly stole the show.
Kung Fu: The Legend Continues. Somehow even more absurd than the 70's western version.
Morrison has a complicated history with that song, and often doesn't sing it in concert.
That whole album was released against his wishes before he was finished and with a title and cover he hated.
@gadfly:
Do you remember when we used to sing "Sha la la la la la la la la la la te da"?
Hit me in the feelings with that one. My parents had divergent music interests. My father was in to southern rock and outlaw country, and my mother was into 70s hard rock like Aerosmith and Zeppelin. And yet, they bonded over a mutual love for Van Morrison. I recall the Days Like This album in particular being on heavy rotation, and it feels like It feels like I've been listening to Moondance since utero. It remains my favorite Morrison work. Crazy Love is crazy beautiful, and I adore And It Stoned Me. But Into The Mystic remains my absolute favorite. I'm a materialist to my bones, but that song is as close to a mystical experience as I am going to get.
Checkout his 1980 DVD performance of "And It Stoned Me" from the Montreaux Jazz Festival. That whole DVD is magic. (Well, I make no claims for the video, I immediately ripped it to audio and that's how I listen to it).
Um, Altouse link here. It's packaged with a 1974 show also, but that's nothing special.
Morrison also has reams of, shall we say, unofficial concert recordings that can be magic. Often the version that gets put out on an album is just one stop on the way of his working on a song. Unfortunately he can be wildly uneven on stage as well.
Roy orbison did a cover for that though.
@Unknown:
Checkout his 1980 DVD performance of "And It Stoned Me" from the Montreaux Jazz Festival.
Will do, but not at the moment. I need time to give it its proper due. Much of the lyrics are supposedly autobiographical. Morrison claimed he once requested water of a stranger who had some from a local stream in a waterskin. After drinking it, Morrison claimed to experience an almost out-of-body experience.
Unfortunately he can be wildly uneven on stage as well.
That's what I've heard. I've never seen him, but my parents have seen him numerous times, including I believe with Ray Charles, a concert I believe they ended up being quite disappointed with.
Even Machiavelli said that "men forget more easily the death of their father than the loss of their patrimony."
I think he meant their inheritance, i.e. money and land.
Can you save money by implanting fraternal half-twins? Or is that half fraternal twins? IOW, one pregnancy.
My brother and SIL were 42 and 38 when my niece was born. They are lucky she's been pretty low maintenance and less annoying than most, because they haven't had the energy. They waited 12 years until they moved near her mother, after being 2 miles from my father--and step-monster.
@Ralph L:
I think he meant their inheritance, i.e. money and land.
Indeed. It is part of his council against seizing property. Nonetheless, I don't believe he was merely referring to the greed of men for property but also the fact that the inheritance is a birthright, handed from son to father, that gives it an extra dimension of value.
Can you save money by implanting fraternal half-twins? Or is that half fraternal twins? IOW, one pregnancy.
Would prefer children spaced out as opposed to twins.
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"Corbyn aide Murray says Hitler was the worst because he killed white people, what a tool"
I was thinking of that very term today watching AZ Firingline on PBS. Better never ask me for money. Guest on there was opining that the Russians looked for instability and exploited it, that bankruptcy implies instability, and Trump had a number of bankruptcies at one point. He thence made the startling jump of logic that that meant that the Russians likely control Trump through money they provided him when he was going through those bankruptcies. He failed to note that the bankruptcies were for some of Trump's businesses. More important though probably is that this theory seems to ignore causation, or at least strongly implies a level of time travel that seems, at least to me, in my naïvety, to be incredible, if not still impossible. The amazing thing is that I have known a number of people to have filed for bankruptcy protection, as well as several businesses, and never once did I hear of the Russians offering to loan the bankruptcy petitioners money, on the chance that a decade or two from now they might be elected President, and at that point would now be able to control the petitioners they had helped through the threat of disclosing that help to the public.
Guest on there was opining that the Russians looked for instability and exploited it, that bankruptcy implies instability, and Trump had a number of bankruptcies at one point.
The Conrad Black book on Trump is excellent in this area of his investment and financial history, Black knows what he is talking about here and knows Trump through business (ie the Sun Times building in Chicago). He treats Trump's financial trials with humor and some degree of cynicism.
Jim Ed and his sisters have passed - but James Edward Brown wrote his obit many years ago.
On having your first baby; No matter how much youve prepared for it, you're not prpared for it.
Good luck, J. Farmer!
I am Laslo.
you know, with dogs; they say you should get a rescue animal, that is a pound puppy, instead of buying from a breeder. There's a lot of kids already out there needing parents.
"you know, with dogs; they say you should get a rescue animal, that is a pound puppy, instead of buying from a breeder."
Bad analogy. Canis lupus familiaris, Homo sapiens sapiens — Same kingdom, totally different genera and species.
HEY! DOGS ARE PEOPLE TOO!!
Not yet they aren't.
And don't even get me started with cats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis#Pregnancy_precautions
technically, i was joking about dogs are people;
however;
the fact remains that there are LOTS of children out there that need foster parents. If a couple (thinks that they) want children, becoming a foster parent would be a good way to try it out (many children aren't in foster care for long (mom gets out of rehab, dad gets out of jail, child turns 18, etc)).
On the other hand a coworker and his wife weren't able to have children; they've raised Three foster children now (and adopted all three).
It seems to me that IF you can't have children, and there are children out there that don't have parents; the answer is NOT paying some women to make a new baby for you
More specifically, if you can't handle raising a foster child; how do you think you're going to be able to raise YOUR child?
Farmer's genes are worth keeping in the pool.
But his jeans need wringing out into a tight double helix.
"technically, i was joking about dogs are people;"
I knew that but I was too lazy to wag my tail with a heh.
i just FINALLY saw your ",yet" haha!
Don't forget the Brown Betty.
Also, Brown v Board.
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