Pebrero 15, 2019

"A Connecticut woman was severely hurt when she lit a quarter stick of dynamite that she believed was a candle during a power outage in her home..."

"... and is now suing its former owner for the mishap," the NY Post reports.
Mother of two Karina Gutierrez began searching her home for candles after thunderstorms knocked out power to her Bridgeport neighborhood on Sept. 6, 2018, the Connecticut Post reported.

She found what she thought was a candle in the basement and tried to light it up when it blew up, injuring her face and hands, according to the lawsuit against Oscar Aguirre, former owner of their Lindley Street home.

75 komento:

Abdul Abulbul Amir ayon kay ...

Darwin Award winner.

Lucien ayon kay ...

What an idiot! She should be suing the power company.

ngtrains ayon kay ...

It ‘blows up’ when ignighted with a blasting cap. Not when ‘lit’.

I don’t she would be alive if it did explode.

mccullough ayon kay ...

Looking for a candle? No flashlight or flashlight app on the phone?

She may as well sue the maker of the dynamite stick for making it look like a candle.

David Blaska ayon kay ...

Darwin Award nominee

Wince ayon kay ...

"... and is now suing its former owner for the mishap," the NY Post reports.

The legal precedent having been set in the case Fudd v. Bunny.

Rob ayon kay ...

When did she move from Florida?

Heartless Aztec ayon kay ...

Back in my crazy days we would play an ersatz game called "Yank Ball". The game rules consisted of lighting an M40 (quarter stick of dynamite), bowling it underhand to the batter and then swatting at it as ot came sputtering in with a cricket bat. Fun game especially if coupled with mescal shots under a full pale moon in the desert of Baja Sur.

tcrosse ayon kay ...

Hoist with the landlord's petard.

chickelit ayon kay ...

Very cartoonish mishap.

gspencer ayon kay ...

Always someone else is to blame. How about inspecting your house before you buy it and then later as you put your own imprint on it.

Douglas2 ayon kay ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarter_stick

A "quarter stick" is a common name for a firework.


Nonapod ayon kay ...

I suspect it was a firecraker, which are often called quartersicks or M80s or M1000s. They contain flashpowder and are still very dangerous obviously. But real dynamite contains nitroglycerin and the modern versions don't have fuses.

Peachy ayon kay ...

Was it a MAGA bomb? If so - Trump's fault. Impeach!

BarrySanders20 ayon kay ...

How was your night? It was a blast.

She should have known something was amiss when the wick of the "candle" started to hiss and move quickly toward the "wax."

Gk1 ayon kay ...

This sounds like a 3 Stooges gag. Unless it was ditch dynamite used to remove stumps, there is no way this could have been a real dynamite stick as someone pointed out you need a blasting cap to get that going not a fuse.

WK ayon kay ...

There once was a lady named Alice.......

Gk1 ayon kay ...

This sounds like a 3 Stooges gag. Unless it was ditch dynamite used to remove stumps, there is no way this could have been a real dynamite stick as someone pointed out you need a blasting cap to get that going not a fuse.

Amexpat ayon kay ...

Don't know the law in this area, but there may very well be strict liability for the storage and use of dynamite. If so, the previous owner is liable. Even if there isn't strict liability, it was probably negligent of him to leave dynamite in a home he sold.

Freeman Hunt ayon kay ...

A firecracker makes much more sense than dynamite. If it were dynamite, she'd be dead, wouldn't she?

stevew ayon kay ...

@EDH

Thread winner! And so early too.

Spiros Pappas ayon kay ...

This case isn't as bad as the burglar who fell through a skylight and sued the owner.

gilbar ayon kay ...

pretty much HAD TO BE a firecracker; or
It wouldn't have had a fuse/wick
It wouldn't have gone off (burnt the crap out of her, maybe)

Bob Boyd ayon kay ...

One of those rare times black face is forgivable.

tcrosse ayon kay ...

Handy Home Tip: Never light a candle that says Acme on the side.

Rae ayon kay ...

So, an M-80?

Usually, fireworks and explosives have warnings all over them.

Ignorance is Bliss ayon kay ...

Spiros Pappas said...

This case isn't as bad as the burglar who fell through a skylight and sued the owner.

A couple years ago in New Hampshire some burglars decided to use a cutting torch to get into a business's safe. The owner had stored a bunch of fireworks in the safe.

Imagine the world's biggest pipe bomb...

Nonapod ayon kay ...

Yeah, I assume that an actual quarter stick of dynamite even it it didn't kill her outright would've blown her arm arm off up to the elbow and destroyed her face.

At any rate, anyone who has ever seen a lit fuse knows damn well when something ain't a candle and should be thrown as far away from oneself as quickly as possible. I learned that from Road Runner cartoons.

alan markus ayon kay ...

@ Amexpat Even if there isn't strict liability

I was thinking of the same thing, considering the requirement that the seller disclose all known environmental hazards. Radon gas, septic systems failing, tainted water supply, buried waste, air quality issues, asbestos, lead, abandoned underground gas/oil tanks, etc.

Only defense may be if he had acquired the property from someone else and did not know this was left behind.

When I sold a house to close an estate (original owner occupant for 50+ years), there were a few things that I left behind in case they might be useful to the new owner (paint, stains, tools, ladder, etc.). Every item was laid out in the garage, and before closing the buyer had the opportunity to separate out what he did not want for me to dispose of.

reader ayon kay ...

Rock beats scissors, scissors beat paper, paper beats rock, and Arkansas beats Connecticut.

Danno ayon kay ...

Blogger Bob Boyd said...One of those rare times black face is forgivable.

Though someone already declared a thread winner, this might be a candidate for a recall vote.

Quaestor ayon kay ...

Wow. That story reeks of desperation.

Jaq ayon kay ...

Did Bill Ayers live there once?

wendybar ayon kay ...

Bhahahaha!!! tim in Vermont that was a perfect comment!!!

JAORE ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Mark ayon kay ...

Reading the snippet, I thought, "What an idiot."

Reading the news story, the former owner who left the explosives in the basement should face punitive damages of several tens of millions of dollars. And if any criminal laws apply, prosecution.

Mark ayon kay ...

Yeah, I assume that an actual quarter stick of dynamite even it it didn't kill her outright would've blown her arm arm off up to the elbow and destroyed her face.

No need to assume. Just read the story --

"Gutierrez, who was treated at Bridgeport Hospital before being transferred to Yale-New Haven Hospital, lost part of her left hand, injured her right eye and suffered permanent scarring of her face, chest and arms, the lawsuit says."

Clyde ayon kay ...

It’s a good thing that she didn’t mistake it for a dildo.

The Godfather ayon kay ...

Assuming it was not dynamite but a large fire cracker, would that affect the former owner's liability? In either case he would have left a dangerous item in the house when he sold it (knowingly, according to the complaint), without informing the purchaser. In either case, the plaintiff's actions -- lighting a fuse on something she had not inspected sufficiently to determine its nature -- were or may have been negligient or reckless.

This could be a fun law school hypothetical.

Ann Althouse ayon kay ...

As others have said, how can you not notice that the thing wasn't wax? Wax has a distinctive feel.

Charlie ayon kay ...

Blondes have more fun.

Ann Althouse ayon kay ...

And why would you go down into the basement and root around in the dark among things that the former owners left behind thinking you might find something useful? I would stay out of unfamiliar stuff in the dark. Who knows what you might stick your hand into? If the lack of light is such a huge problem that you can't wait it out (at least sunrise is always coming), why would you exacerbate the problem by searching the basement? Make a mental note to buy a flashlight and keep it where you'll easily be able to get to it in a blackout, and then just put up with sitting around in the dark. What was it that made a candle so useful that she had to look for it in the dark?

That said, why don't house-sellers get all their stuff out of the house? I really don't feel any sympathy for the former owner. I hate that carelessness of leaving stuff behind that is troublesome to get rid of and can't be put in the moving van (like noxious chemicals).

Matt ayon kay ...

You would think the original owner's homeowner's policy would cover this. There must be more to this story than meets the eye.

William ayon kay ...

This is why the prudent home owner should take care to store his dynamite, candles, and Fleet Enemas in separate locations.

Amexpat ayon kay ...

As others have said, how can you not notice that the thing wasn't wax?

That was stupid of course, but there was a power outage and she may have been stressed or flustered. Even if she is partially at fault, the previous owner is most at fault for leaving explosives in the house he sold

Freeman Hunt ayon kay ...

It seems obviously negligent to leave explosives in a house you've vacated.

On the other hand, it seems obviously negligent to light things you find in the dark on fire.

Darrell ayon kay ...

She would have been better off cursing the darkness.

Meade ayon kay ...

Danno@ 10:10

chuck ayon kay ...

> As others have said, how can you not notice that the thing wasn't wax?

There are a lot of people out there who don't know what radio broadcast towers are, or what they do. Heck, there are a lot of people who probably don't know that the flux goes inside the joint when soldering pipes. We are in many ways a population of stone age savages with a sprinkling of technically competent people who keep things going.

Fernandinande ayon kay ...

It's my understanding that you need a blasting cap to ignite dynamite, but when I worked at a military ammo-dump the main guy said don't touch the dynamite because a static spark could set it off.

mikeski ayon kay ...

Did it also blow all the windows out of their frames, and permanently deafen her? Then maybe it was dynamite. Still probably a heavy-duty firework.

And maybe the previous owner had them "hidden" if he lived in a state/county/city where fireworks are illegal?

chuck ayon kay ...

> It ‘blows up’ when ignighted with a blasting cap. Not when ‘lit’.

Just so.

JAORE ayon kay ...

Many moons ago I worked on a rock blasting crew.

Fuse, she lived, house still standing w/o substantial damage = NOT 1/4 stick of dynamite.

JohnAnnArbor ayon kay ...

Darwin Award winner.

Only an "honorable mention" if you don't die.

Limited blogger ayon kay ...

1/4 stick of dynamite - we used to call them 'ash cans' or 'M80s'

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

I am sorry, but you have to be a fucking idiot to mistake that for a candle.

Yancey Ward ayon kay ...

EDH,

You owe me a new keyboard and cup of coffee!

Chuck ayon kay ...

Hey, Althouse! Palsgraf v Long Island Railroad Co. !

What would Justice Cardozo say about this?

bagoh20 ayon kay ...

I was sued once for opening a can of whoop ass in the dark. It was no accident.

SeanF ayon kay ...

At no point in the article does it say that the former owner didn't disclose the information that there were fireworks/explosives left behind. Even the quote from the lawsuit doesn't say it:

“Mrs. Gutierrez’s injuries and losses were directly caused by the willful, wanton and reckless conduct of the defendant in that he knew of the existence of the explosive device but failed to remove it from the basement when he sold the property in deliberate disregard for the safety of the plaintiffs”.

It doesn't say, "failed to remove it from the basement or notify the plaintiffs of its presence", and I think that may be telling.

John Ray ayon kay ...

Every M-80 I've seen had a fuse on the side, not the top. Most M-80's contain flash powder, however illicit M-80's (Mexican M's) might contain picric acid -- for the bigger bang. I've never seen any fireworks made of wax or having a wax exterior. Something wrong here or the victim is among the dumbest of humans. A cardboard clad candle? get real, lady --tell the jury that. Although high-end fireworks are extremely dangerous, they don't contain nitro.

Dynamite is nitro. Will burn or ignite when exposed to fire. But to get full power, one needs a blasting cap.

I think this lady might have found some home-made stuff -- which is extremely dangerous to light. I've seen powder laced candles, made as a joke.

Hagar ayon kay ...

I suspect that what she lit was a roadside warning flare and no kind of dynamite at all.
Part for the course for the 20 somethings of TV land.

Jim at ayon kay ...

"The legal precedent having been set in the case Fudd v. Bunny."

Well played.

BUMBLE BEE ayon kay ...

Prove who left it there, and as has been mentioned dynamite is not detonated by fuse except in Warner Brothers cartoons.

BUMBLE BEE ayon kay ...

Highway flares are struck with their endcap igniter and do not explode. Possibly some archaic
Railroad signaling device?

John Ray ayon kay ...

Ever seen that series in which these two dudes go looking for old stuff in their Merc van -- the one with the cute tatooed lady giving directions to the next stop? In some of the series, they found old made to burn or explosive stuff. They never lit it, thus surviving to make the next show. 'nuff said.

reader ayon kay ...

I love it when you guys spark a memory. My mom has dementia and I’m going to revel in every memory I have while I still can.

“I think this lady might have found some home-made stuff -- which is extremely dangerous to light. I've seen powder laced candles, made as a joke.”

My uncle used to make homemade fireworks in the 70’s. They were awesome and blew Safe and Sane out the window. Of course one year he burned our ladder down with a pin wheel. My uncle and dad would light them and run. My dad used a road flare to light them (he worked for Cal Trans so we had bunches of those).

GingerBeer ayon kay ...

If I had a nickel...

Bruce Hayden ayon kay ...

“Assuming it was not dynamite but a large fire cracker, would that affect the former owner's liability? In either case he would have left a dangerous item in the house when he sold it (knowingly, according to the complaint), without informing the purchaser. In either case, the plaintiff's actions -- lighting a fuse on something she had not inspected sufficiently to determine its nature -- were or may have been negligient or reckless.”

My memory is that explosives, like dynamite, may be the sort of thing that are inherently dangerous enough to qualify for strict liability. Seem to remember that from Torts better than 30 years ago. Interesting to see if any other former law school students have similar memories, or can do the research that I am too lazy to do. And leaving such laying around may be negligence, per se. (If there is such a thing - Torts wasn’t my strongest class in LS - except that IP infringement is also considered a tort). I think that I would argue that fireworks are not inherently as dangerous, so maybe shouldn’t qualify for strict liability. As a society, we have traditionally treated dynamite and the like significantly differently than mere fireworks. For example, in a lot of places, dynamite and the like is regulated to the extent of requiring serial numbers, an inventory, and even a license some places to own or detonate.

Bruce Hayden ayon kay ...

One of my fond memories of the past concerning fireworks involved the Frisco, CO, fire department. They would put on the annual 4th of July fireworks over Dillon Reservoir. The problem was that there was inevitably some alcohol involved. So, we would get as close as we could to watch them, for the occasional firework chasing a drunk fireman that happened every several years. Ultimately, the city (and fire department) grew up, and eliminated much of the excitement.

Bilwick ayon kay ...

Wile E. Coyote could not be reached for comment.

Mark ayon kay ...

you have to be a fucking idiot to mistake that for a candle

Tort law is set at the lowest common denominator. It is not only for geniuses or smart people or people with a minimum level of sense. The law protects fucking idiots as well. The person who left the explosive there had a duty to remove it.

There are a lot of idiots in the world. Is it foreseeable that some idiot might find the thing and light it, thinking it a candle, a roadside flare or something else, not realizing what it is? Is it foreseeable that some child might find it and put a match to it? Absolutely, in both cases.

The burden was on the former homeowner who left it there.

Josephbleau ayon kay ...

As a graduate Mining Engineer from my youth, this is pretty stupid. A piece of so called stick powder, ( or nitroglycerin dynamite), is 8" long. For many purposes like priming ANFO you break it in half and use 1/2 stick per blast hole. No one would break a stick into quarters (2"??) and if you did you would mush it all up. Dynamite burns with no detonation and will shoot only if you use a #6 blasting cap, or sometimes if you hit a stick or a burning stick with a hammer, say, it may shoot.

This was a big gunpowder firecracker and the person lit the fuse. And yes, blasting is "Legally" an inherently dangerous activity and has plenty of no recourse and limited insureability factors in the law. The BATF is getting more intolerant after 911. (BATF, not a government agency, but my local convenience store).

Zach ayon kay ...

It ‘blows up’ when ignighted with a blasting cap. Not when ‘lit’.

It's called deflagration to detonation transition. Rapid burning converts to a shock wave, which detonates the rest of the explosive.

Dynamite, especially old dynamite, is dangerous because there's no quality control. People used all sorts of junk as mixers, and the quantity of explosive varies wildly. Nitroglycerine can sweat out of the mixer and form films which will detonate.

It's hard to see how the former owner wouldn't be liable. The hazards of dynamite are extremely well known, and there's no good reason not to dispose of it immediately after use. Old dynamite is even more dangerous, and leaving it around where untrained people are liable to encounter it is the most dangerous of all.

Mazo Jeff ayon kay ...

Story doesn't say when the women bought the house. Could have been months or years. So if this M80 had been laying around in plain site (how could someone find it so easily in the dark), why didn't the new homeowner dispose of it?

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