From "No nudes is bad news: Paris's first NAKED restaurant closes after 15 months due to lack of customers" (Daily Mail).
Here's my selection from one of the photographs. If I understand the caption correctly, it shows one of the owners stopping by at a table to chat up the customers:
I mean, what do you want to see competing with the wineglasses on the tablescape?
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How do you say, “please remove your penis from my wine” in French?
The problem with nude restaurant is identical to that of nude beaches.
They seem like a good idea, until you realize that you never see people there who you would like or want to see naked.
The human body can look really unappetizing.
What a trite tattoo.
Must be fun to have a nude waiter refill your wine glass.
It wasn't the lack of customers, it was the workmen's comp premiums for the kitchen staff that did them in. That and French hygiene.
I'm a big fan of the female form. I find it inherently attractive. A woman has to go out of her way to reach a condition where they are not attractive.
Unfortunately, a sizable portion of the population does just that. More than enough to ruin any dining experience.
On the other hand, if I find the women attractive, I'm probably unconsciously watching what I eat, and probably skipping desert.
Either way, not good for the restaurant business.
you never see people there who you would like or want to see naked.
The morning paper in Nice typically had topless cuties on its front page, under the heading "Nice Matin".
How do you say, “please remove your penis from my wine” in French?
Pas de Coq au vin, SVP.
A mystery indeed. Maybe the restrooms had a sign that Employees must wash not only their hands but all over after using the facilities, and that was slowing down the wait staff. Or maybe the customers demanded to see new waiters with new Tattoos, the old ones having lost their appeal.
Orgies are fun. You guys are all getting a little long in the tooth.
The world is divided between the clean sex and the dirty sex people.
I'm down with the dirty sex people. They are more entertaining.
Everything in life that is fun and adventurous is a little dangerous. Same is true with sex.
Unappetizing.
It's a cliche, but a cliche because it's so blatantly true, that in most scenarios, the people you want to see naked are not the people who are getting naked.
Sure, but if you want to go to the bacchanal, you have to be tolerant. Some beautiful people, some middling, some ugly.
Same as in the locker room at the gym.
Sometimes, I wonder: Who are all those hundreds of millions of people wearing out Pornhub's servers for views of kinky, dirty sex?
Everybody unanimously claims it ain't him or her.
Somebody's lying.
I’m amazed that it lasted fifteen months.
Pas de Coq au vin, SVP.
Très bien.
Most themes fail. People want good food in a nice atmosphere and if the theme gets too cutesy, then it's go once to check it out and then never again.
Plus, naked people, even perfectly clean people, make you wonder about the hygiene.
Naked is not interesting for long. Looks simply don't matter until you put clothes on.
Shouting Thomas said...
The world is divided between the clean sex and the dirty sex people.
I would put that at 1% and 99%, partner(s) and circumstances permitting.
Every woman I talk with claims (at first at least) that she doesn't watch porn, but the moment shaved pussy became the standard on porn, every woman shaved off her bush.
I take the protestations of disinterest and moral purity on this thread with a few grains of salt.
Orgies are fun. You guys are all getting a little long in the tooth.
The world is divided between the clean sex and the dirty sex people.
I'm down with the dirty sex people. They are more entertaining.
Everything in life that is fun and adventurous is a little dangerous. Same is true with sex.
Dirty sex with one person is much more fun and much less germy. You wouldn't eat an apple slice that rolled around in the dirt; why would you deliberately roll around in other people's diseases? Gross.
My poor teen daughters will have a hell of a time finding boyfriends in college who don't have herpes. Thanks promiscuity!
As to the restaurant and public nudity in general ~ it seems cold and uncomfortable. I'm no prude but I want support for my bosoms and comfy clothes to keep me warm while doing something non-sexual like dining. Suspect most people are the same. An indoor restaurant is not a warm beach or a cozy bed.
No surprise that it Flopped.
I once had dinner with the Grateful Dead road crew served by topless women.
Seemed like a fun idea. In reality, the local runner hired strippers who all seemed to work the lower-end clubs on the North Shore.
Nothing sexier than having a topless single mother showing her age hand you a plate and say, "here's your peas".
My poor teen daughters will have a hell of a time finding boyfriends in college who don't have herpes. Thanks promiscuity!
I sit in the hot tub at the YMCA every day, where I'm often joined by teenage girls sporting piercings and hardware and numerous tats that declare their sexual perversions.
It ain't just the boys.
The tattoos alone are enough to ruin the dining experience. Bleh.
no French dressing?
Shouting Thomas said...
It ain't just the boys.
I think women are the greater fantasists. But different. I’m betting that Erica Jong’s zipless fuck had strong appeal to women, surprising men at the time. Now, it’s the same thing. We just don’t know what they think, but they think it. Us men tend to be more boorish.
Yuk.
Professional lady said...
Yuk.
Yup. The only circumstances this works for me is if it was a blind date as a time saving device.
This line made me laugh though women were told they could leave their heels on if they wished.
And then made me think of this song...listen...it is great. You can leave your hat on
I can see the appeal of topless beaches and orgies, but where's the advantage in topless restaurants. I suppose there might be the odd occasion where you dodge a dry cleaning bill, but is it worth the hassle of doffing and donning your clothes? Where do you put your credit card? How much fun is the eating if you have to suck your stomach in every time a pretty girl passes by the table? Seems to be a lame idea even by French standards, and they're the ones who introduced the decimal week.
Naked Lunch
questions
do the food handlers still wear hairnets? and where?
no shirt, no shoes; no service
identical to that of nude beaches. They seem like a good idea,
until you realize that you never see people there who you would like or want to see naked.
back in the '90's; our company switched to casual work cloths, and sent out a dress code of acceptable clothing. On the Still Unacceptable list were Capri pants. I mentioned to my coworker that that sucked, on account of because i liked seeing women in Capri pants...
And he said; "if they allow women to wear Capri pants, they'll have to allow ALL Women to wear Capri pants." I realized that the powers that be had put much more thought into this than i had
And shocking that it took 15 months
A restaurant that prevented women from wearing clothes suggesting that they looked better naked?
Not a smart concept.
Seriously.
My parent were nudists.
They even owned a nice cabin in a nudist camp in the Santa Cruz Mountain area in the 1960's. We often went to nudist beaches and resorts as children. As we kids became teens, it became "uncomfortable" and awkward so we kids stopped going and parents still went. I did miss the swimming pools and nude swimming. Nothing like swimming nude in a nice heated pool. Try it sometime. Trust me.
The Santa Cruz resort had a restaurant and people could dine nude, if they wanted to. Optional. Some did. Some didn't. Actually, most people didn't dine nude, including us. Even dressed, shorts and tee shirts or sun dresses.....we would bring our own towels to use to sit on the chairs. Otherwise....yuck!
Dining nude is ridiculous. You want to be comfortable, concentrate on the food and conversation.
Later on in the Hippie Dippy days I indulged in the back to nature lifestyle, which included a lot of nudity. Hair the musical wasn't very shocking to me at all. No big deal to me and not a rebellion against the old fuddy duddy parents. It just was.
As a result, nudity and naked bodies is not any issue or concern to me. Nudity has a place and prancing around in public, not in designated nude beaches or resorts, is not the place.
Things I DID learn from all of this.
1. There is nothing to be ashamed about being nude in public an appropriate setting. Restaurants and eating in a formal setting. Gross!
2. Not every "body" is attractive. People have high expectations of the nude experience. Again trust me. There are some really unattractive bodies out there. Although, I must admit there were some pretty good looking ones too :-)
3. After a while the nudity becomes basically nothing remarkable when everyone is nude and going about their business. Playing cards. Swimming. Sunbathing.
4. I'm not naive enough to not recognize that there was plenty of hanky panky, sexual things going on. In fact....being a young teen, I felt the weird vibes from some people and was why we kids said....mmmmmm no thanks. We'll stay home. That can happen with your clothes on too.
It’s funny how cultural dirty sex is. The more in decline a culture (whether they can see it or not) the further out the boundaries. You could go long or short long bonds very profitably just by sleeping with their various women.
I'm surprised the French have not become extinct yet.
Why are people talking about sex?!
This was a restaurant, not a brothel.
Thanks Dust Bunny. And as much as I was nodding as I read through your piece, I was in a soccer stadium in Botswana with 3000 blacks on New Year’s Eve and being the only white boy, and with a fatal shorts and flip flop tan I wouldn’t have peeled, despite the glee it would have brought them and my gf. Maybe I should have for the selfie.
Ann Althouse said...
Why are people talking about sex?!
Ask Shouting Thomas, he started it.
Ann Althouse said... This was a restaurant, not a brothel.
okay, did they serve soup? was it hot? did they (at least) give you a napkin for your lap?
"okay, did they serve soup? was it hot? did they (at least) give you a napkin for your lap?"
They give you everything, from soup to nuts.
Ann Althouse said... This was a restaurant, not a brothel.
Althouse, Althouse if you're able,
Get your sex off the table
This is not a horse's stable,
but a high class dining room.
Here's my shocked face.
The nice thing about clothes is they cover all the stupid and crazy tattoos.
About 25 year ago, I inadvertently stumbled upon a nude beach north of San Francisco. I was taking my visiting NY cousins on a tour of the city in my convertible Chevy Cavalier (it somewhat cool at the time.) It's near Stinson Beach.
Nothing, I mean, nothing exemplifies hot sexiness than nude, aging, hairy, mis-shapen, ex-hippies throwing frisbees at the beach.
And that's just the women!
Nothing, I mean, nothing illustrates hot sexiness than nude, aging, hairy, mis-shapen, ex-hippies throwing frisbees beach.
Exactly my point :-) That every "body" is not necessarily good looking and nudity isn't really sexually appealing in general.
How about the ancient, rail thin, sagging, deeply wrinkled, old ladies who have tanned themselves to the consistency and color of a leather saddlebag. Leather person: gaudily painted claw-like fingernails and long toe nails, lounging on a chaise to get ever more tanned and wrinkled, smoking like a chimney (everyone did in those days), drinking martinis with pinkies extended, and reading pretentious books through giant dark sunglasses. uuuurk.
They thought it was still the fabulous olden days of Gretta Garbo and mistook themselves for aging movie stars.
Want me to describe the flabby pasty hairy old men who were there just to look at young girls?
@DBQ:
"Want me to describe the flabby pasty hairy old men who were there just to look at young girls?"
Not really. That would only detract from an already unpleasant mental image.
I'm old-fashioned, you know that DBQ. Let's have a nice time with well-dressed people of both sexes at the bar, mingling, laughing, drinking, flirting, dancing, and then maybe there's a spark, and then, maybe you break off from the group, and then, maybe you invite her back to your place, and then, maybe...........
There's no need for nude beaches! Also, the sunburns can chafe.
Nude beaches are too hippie for me. Getting naked is better than that.
There's no need for nude beaches! Also, the sunburns can chafe.
Not to mention the sand!
/evil grin
There are few people over the age of 50 who look good naked. In fact, most people I see on the streets these days would be aesthetically unappealing to me even if they are under 30 years old- too many fat, out of shape people.
Nothing like swimming nude in a nice heated pool. Try it sometime. Trust me.
"There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum. It's breathtaking. I suggest you try it.".
Think of the logistics of a Nudist Restaurant. It would require a locker room for the customers to change out of their street clothes, and maybe to shower up after dinner. Since presumably everybody is going to see everybody else naked, a single unisex locker room would do.
In February 1976, the book, The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris, was removed from high school library shelves by the board of education of the Island Trees Union Free School District in New York. This case became the subject of a U.S. Supreme Court case in 1982. -Wikipedia
Discuss.
https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Ape-Zoologists-Study-Animal/dp/0385334303
Please use Althouse's portal to purchase a copy.
""Black covers placed over each chair are discreetly changed between sittings.""
Le Poupstaine
There may have been staffing issues. What waiter wants his dick pixelated?
Speed dating concept misunderstood
"How do you say, “please remove your penis from my wine” in French?" I knew an AF colonel who lost his command position for demonstrating a "Dick" Collins in the O Club one time.
Yeah..why would anyone connect nudity to sex?
(said no man ever)
What's sexy is being at nudist spot--Deep Creek to be exact--talking to a naked Rubenesque woman who isn't whining about her looks.
BTW, Olive Dell's Burro 5k nude race is April 18. If you live in Southern California, try it, it's fun.
Once again, I'm very late to the thread. (Hey, I live in Oregon it's like a different time zone) The reason it failed should be obvious: no one can bring a wallet.
Degenerates open degenerate restaurant for other degenerates. Turns out there are less degenerates than believed.
This is one of those rare 'good news' stories.
I know Indon’t wanna see some guy’s junk at table level. Can’t imagine many women would either. Time and place. Besides only about 1% of the population looks good nekkid. And nobody’s genitals are attractive. Didn’t John Lennon say something about ‘the ugliest part of your body?’
Lady who was friends of ex gf, complained about nude beaches, "The sand gets EVERYWERE!"
It's amusing to read the comments of all the prudes who think nudity implies sex, who haven't felt a warm breeze or tropical waters against all their skin.
They must totally freak out at the sight of varieties of dog or dove, especially an old one in a restaurant, much less the variety of trees in a botanical garden.
But in the end, who really wants to meet those prudes at his favorite nudist beach, spa, sauna or restaurant?
Ooops looked it up. Frank Zappa had a song “What’s the Ugliest Part of Your Body.”
Waiter, there's hair in my soup!!
..and on your spoon
..and in the butter
..and clinging to then salt shaker
..and, and, and etc.
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