Cops committed James Polite, 26 of Bedford-Stuyvesant to the psychiatric ward at Woodhull Hospital in Brooklyn.... The suspect was busted in the same clothes he wore in surveillance video of his vandalism at the historic Union Temple in Prospect Heights. Polite is also suspected of setting a series of small trash fires in and around synagogues in Williamsburg, police sources said.... Cops released a surveillance image of the vandal on Friday. He is described as a black man, about 20 years old, 5-foot-8, 140 pounds with black hair.The words in the graffiti: "Hitler," "Jews better be ready" and "Die Jew rats, we are here!" What makes a 20-year-old black man write that? An immediate decision seems to have been made that he is a person with mental illness.
Meanwhile, what do we know about the Pittsburgh murderer? I'm reading "As questions linger about Pittsburgh suspect, details emerge from his early life" (WaPo):
But while rage-filled anti-Semitic online posts from an account bearing Bowers’s name have drawn considerable attention, his offline life left startlingly little impression on people who met him before the massacre.... The elements of his background that have emerged since the bloodshed at Tree of Life synagogue on Oct. 27 suggested moments of instability in his early life, including family divorces, moves and ultimately being raised by his grandparents....This morning, a new story is: "Two women were killed when a gunman opened fire in a Florida yoga studio before class members fought back and the attacker killed himself, police said on Saturday" (NYT). I don't know the killer's motivation, but a yoga class is a religious or religion-like ritual (see "Does doing yoga make you a Hindu?" (BBC)).
Much of the rest of Robert Bowers’s life remains a mystery. He attended high school in Baldwin, Pa., but did not graduate. He was not well-known to neighbors, who said he kept a low profile and gave no indication of the racist views he espoused online.
147 comments:
Two things:
1) a young black man would do that after listening to Farrakhan.
2) I was wondering if I was the only one to notice these are all "spiritual/religious" crimes.
Good catch, Ann.
What makes a 20-year-old black man write that?
Envy.
Michael The Magnificent said...
What makes a 20-year-old black man write that?
"Envy."
Man, you have a waaaay different picture of blacks and Jews than I'm familiar with. We hardly envy Jews. They condescend too much, took part in our oppression, and look too physically weak, for blacks to even admire them.
Whites flatter themselves much too much.
“What makes a 20-year-old black man write that?”
And in “Hymietown” where the “diamond dealers” live, of all places. Althouse, are you really unaware of rampant antisemitism in the black community? Ever hear of the Crown Heights riots?
bleh said...
“What makes a 20-year-old black man write that?”
What makes a Jew exploit blacks he rents to?
"And in “Hymietown” where the “diamond dealers” live, of all places."
Here we go - just scream "Get the niggers!" and get it over with.
"Althouse, are you really unaware of rampant antisemitism in the black community?"
bleh, are you really unaware of rampant exploitation Jews brought to blacks in the past?
"Ever hear of the Crown Heights riots?"
Ever hear of payback in a country where no one else will defend you?
You live for revenge, Crack. It's your only moral value.
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.
Thanks for proving my point, Crack.
Shouting Thomas said...
"You live for revenge, Crack. It's your only moral value."
And a damaned good one.
bleh said...
"Thanks for proving my point, Crack."
Don't buy the white narrative = anti-Semite? Cool.
So says the Shabbas Goy for two synagogues.
Good that the yoga people fought back.
Revenge against a person who has hurt you or your loved ones?
Understandable. Even noble, under some circumstances.
Revenge against people who kind of look like other people who hurt some other people who kind of look like you?
Shameful.
Look at the date- in case you think I'm lying.
And then I want you - and Shouting Thomas - to consider how desperately you fight the truth at the expense of black lives.
Then you'll know why you're racists.
clint said...
"Revenge against a person who has hurt you or your loved ones?
Understandable. Even noble, under some circumstances.
Revenge against people who kind of look like other people who hurt some other people who kind of look like you?
Shameful."
Easy to say when you're not the one no one will defend - against an entire society that eliminated laws against discrimination - but not the culture of it.
I'm not sure of his motivation, but James wasn't very Polite
Please note: when the Anti-Semitism is from a white, even if he hates Trump, he is a part of Trump's base and Trump's fault.
When it is a black man (a core Democratic voter), he is simply mentally disturbed.
••
Crack wants special exceptions for Black Racism. I agree with everything he says about the Jews and Blacks DO have reason to hate Jews.
AND
Jews ALSO congregate in Democratic shitholes. Their neighborhoods are ruined by black graffiti.
Their businesses are robbed by Blacks. Their people are murdered by blacks. Their daughters, out of liberal guilt, get fucked by black men (one of the Jewish commenters noted it was a rite of passage for Daddy Issue Jewesses). Some of them get pregnant. Blacks go out of their way to be big, bad loud and scary and harass the Jews they hate.
The number of Jews assaulted, murdered and robbed by Blacks is probably 10 times the opposite number.
Do Jews have a right to hate Blacks too?
'But but but...my oppression is worse than their oppression.'
I just sit on the sidelines, drink tea and smile.
Every day it's the same: Whites are determined to blame blacks for something - while ignoring what role they played in getting us here.
It's truly amazing.
Jewish guys in NYC go to law school, study hard and become lawyers. Many of them own a lot of property in the city.
Black guys plan to be rappers, won't study and never become anything. Not a lot of them own property.
Seems to be working out the way it should be. Somebody has to own and maintain property. Somebody has to live in it. You get what you pay for in terms of the place you live in. If you ain't got the scratch in NYC, you live in a shithole.
Every day it's the same: Whites are determined to blame blacks for something - while ignoring what role they played in getting us here.
It's truly amazing.
I read enough of your stupid rants here, Crack.
Not going to your site to get the expanded, even stupider rant.
So, you're here today, Crack, to defend a black guy for a hoax hate crime against his employer?
Shouting Thomas said...
"Black guys plan to be rappers, won't study and never become anything. Not a lot of them own property."
What year were blacks ABLE to own property - instead of being property - in this country?
TCE rhetorically asked: "What makes a Jew exploit blacks he rents to?"
Only the Jews? And only blacks are exploited? Good to know.
FIDO said...
"Crack wants special exceptions for Black Racism."
Crack wants America to learn history.
James Polite—same gay Black guy who was anObama volunteer and then Christine Quinn staffer on initiatives to combat hate crime, sexual assault and domestic violence" profiled in the NYT last year?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/nyregion/after-years-in-foster-care-intern-adopted-by-city-hall-catches-a-break.html
Steve Sailer has a good article about Polite today. Sounds like he may really be a mentally ill, gay, queer (his word), black, Democrat-enabled, Black Studies, guy. Oh, and a bigot.
Humperdink said...
TCE rhetorically asked: "What makes a Jew exploit blacks he rents to?"
Only the Jews? And only blacks are exploited? Good to know.
Only blacks were a captive audience. No options to move somewhere else.
That's what Jews exploited.
What year were blacks ABLE to own property - instead of being property - in this country?
The Jews in question in this case hired this guy almost entirely out of sympathy because he's black.
They gave him an opportunity. It's an opportunity he could have parlayed into owning property by continuing to exploit liberal Jews' desire to help blacks.
In my experience, this is what guys like you do with an opportunity.
Then you start ranting about how you're justified in pissing on the people who gave you the opportunity.
Jews give him the heebie-jeebies.
Wow, this thread. Scratch a Crack and it turns into racist bloodletting all around. Nice blog, Althouse.
An immediate decision seems to have been made that he is a person with mental illness.
Various cultures have various ways to score success in life. A mental illness diagnosis is a way of avoiding noticing that.
The things you guys say only make sense as long as whites are dressed as benevolent and fair - instead of slavers and self-interested ideologues willing to kill.
Make it all fit with history and I'll stop arguing with you. \
But you're not going to look so good, then, either.
I'd wager you've pissed away dozens of opportunities in this fashion, Crack.
And you haven't learned a thing.
You pissed away the opportunity with Althouse. She gave you billing on a weblog that brings in millions of hits.
You pissed it away by cursing her. You can't stop biting the hand that feeds you.
You guys now are acting like I'm defending this guy instead of taking a position on whether blacks envy Jews.
You just can't be decent people, can you?
tcrosse said..
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Jews give him the heebie-jeebies.
As a Jewish person, I found this immensely funny.
Really.
I repeat: I've been the Shabbas for two synagogues.
Anything you guys make-up to counter that - just because you don't like the truth - is on you.
July 9th, 1868 is a good date.
Or, even earlier, Anthony Johnson (1600-1670, Angolan) served his term of indenturement and was free.
He then had his right to own black slaves legally recognized.
Or perhaps Venture Smith. 1765 he bought his freedom. 1775, he bought his entire families freedom.
Did you have any more hyperbolic, fact free, clothes rending you wanted to do?
You are not in bondage and you have never personally been in bondage, something that can't be said for a lot of Cubans, Russians, Koreans, Chinese, Germans and Eastern Europeans...and Jews!
Just...you know...for a little perspective.
Like Thompson thr intercept staffer who was responsible for half the incidents in that ADL report
Thinking about it, Polite might really have been a good (although with mental issues) guy until the Dems sponsored him and got him into Black Studies Bullshit at Brandeis where he may have picked up the Crack attitude vs. Whites and Jews and become a victim/hater.
Blame shifting. It's a loser's game, no matter who does it.
FIDO said...
"You are not in bondage and you have never personally been in bondage"
And that's the only thing that can hurt you in America, right? So sharecropping, loitering laws, lynchings, etc. - non of that matters. MLK and all of them were TRIPPING. Life was good?
I'll say it again: America got rid of desriminatory laws - not the culture - and that's what you guys represent every day I'm here.
Just horrible, inhumane - ideologues.
I like how it pisses you guys off that someone - even a black person - will defend blacks against your daily onslaught.
Daily - But you're not racists.
It's funny - Ann doesn't attack blacks daily.
What's wrong with the rest of you?
“James Polite—same gay Black guy who was anObama volunteer and then Christine Quinn staffer on initiatives to combat hate crime, sexual assault and domestic violence" profiled in the NYT last year?”
It would appear so. If it is him, it should be an important part of the reporting.
After Years in Foster Care, Intern ‘Adopted’ by City Hall Catches a Break
James Polite, 25, at his [Jewish] foster parents’ home in Brooklyn.
By Emily Palmer [NYT], Dec. 14, 2017
So the arrested suspect is a black, gay, Democratic activist.
They just ain’t making neo-Nazis like they used to …
bleh said...
"If it is him, it should be an important part of the reporting."
An important part of any story is the context these things take place in, which - for some reason - white conservatives don't want to acknowledge, as they blame everyone else for the world only they had the power to create.
I was born in 1961. The Watts Riots was my first encounter with the effects of racism. Things didn't really start to change until the 1980s. Why whites pretend otherwise is only a result of their isolation from most blacks.
Now they should know better.
Shrug. Everyone has a story. Everyone has been discriminated against. Everyone has gotten raw deals.
I am mostly here to note THIS black man is getting all kinds of benefit of the doubt that any other race of Anti-Semite would not.
I also note that Jews might have a few legitimate reasons to not like black people.
Crack don't like that. He is allergic to perspective.
That is a problem, but it is a personal problem.
Oh, well, I'm not going to spend a perfectly good day fighting over stuff that doesn't concern me directly.
I'm going to the Y to sit in the hot tub and pray for 15 minutes.
A daily ritual intended to empty my mind of jealousy and the desire for revenge, to clear my head of foolish argument that gets in the way of playing music with a clear head, and to focus my mind on the moment.
"Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us."
"James Polite spent much of his childhood in foster care."
Jesus. I know this story well.
"In high school alone, Mr. Polite estimates, he was placed in 10 different homes."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
"And he received little encouragement from social workers to go to college."
Somebody scream that he has to salute the flag for me, I can't do it.
"But Mr. Polite,...found encouragement... during Barack Obama’s first presidential bid."
Which every white conservative will call him names for accepting, because they understand what it's like to be an isolated black foster child who's never gotten encouragement before - clearly, such a person should be as politically astute as they are and so, is deserving of their ridicule.
Fuck all y'all.
Watts was idiot black guys like Crack torching their own neighborhood. An aspect of black behavior that cannot be understood.
Newark's the same story. Still hasn't recovered from black guys like Crack torching their own neighborhood almost 50 years.
Shouting, you are not helping. Stop engaging.
FIDO said...
Shrug. Everyone has a story.
But not everyone loses their humanity. Carry on.
"Everyone has been discriminated against. Everyone has gotten raw deals."
But not in their own country, by their own country, and for the benefit of their country - and with their countrymen always loudly and proudly demanding they feel differently about it, than human nature requires.
"I am mostly here to note THIS black man is getting all kinds of benefit of the doubt that any other race of Anti-Semite would not."
He was in 10 homes just during high school. I wouldn't rely on him being a great decision maker. As a matter of fact, I'd say - rather than catching breaks - this guy has been left so far behind in what he's needed just to get to what you or I would call normalcy - that he's owed a Hell of a lot more.
"I also note that Jews might have a few legitimate reasons to not like black people."
I never said they wouldn't. My Jewish relations are contentious, to say the least, no matter how much I love them - and I started getting Jewish clothes in Foster Care when I was five years old.
"Crack don't like that. He is allergic to perspective."
Stop assuming you know me better than you do - you'll always be wrong.
"That is a problem, but it is a personal problem."
See how that flipped around to bite you on the ass?
If anti-Semitism bypasses consideration as a serious problem in New York, it is to some extent because it refuses to conform to an easy narrative with a single ideological enemy.
Actually it mostly does conform to "a narrative", but the narrative regards an "enemy" the NYT "refuses" to recognize.
During the past 22 months, not one person caught or identified as the aggressor in an anti-Semitic hate crime has been associated with a far right-wing group, Mark Molinari, commanding officer of the police department’s Hate Crimes Task Force, told me.
“I almost wish it was sometimes more clear cut,’’ he said. “It’s every identity targeting every identity.”
"Every identity" except for "far right-wing" groups attacking Jews.
Of course, not everyone is caught. And, obviously, white supremacists are driving anti-Semitic rhetoric online.
The NYT knows that white people are bad, but they get away with it.
The swastikas in the news pictures are often so poorly drawn that they indicate the vandal wasn't really clear on what a swastika looks like...so they drew something that looks like Xs and Hs mixed together.
Whatever.
Politically this Brooklyn synagogue thing was a good political incident for the "antisemitic conservative" storyline. Just the thing to increase tribal rancor. And considering the initial story had more legs than will "the rest of the story", it did serve its purpose.
The perpetrator being a black, gay Democratic party longtime political employee and beneficiary of Jewish charities - tells me this was a freelance "false flag" by a loyalist.
Every day it's the same: Whites are determined to blame blacks for something - while ignoring what role they played in getting us here.
Blacks are anti-Semitic because of Whitey? I bet we're the reason they hate Koreans too.
Fernandistein said...
"Actually it mostly does conform to "a narrative", but the narrative regards an "enemy" the NYT "refuses" to recognize."
I am so sick of all these narratives. That's a huge issue in America now - not dealing in reality but in narratives. Always winning the "World Series" no other country participates in.
It's pure madness.
Gahrie said...
"Blacks are anti-Semitic because of Whitey? I bet we're the reason they hate Koreans too."
Blacks aren't anti-Semitic - Farrakhan is - but blacks aren't. I keep telling y'all: we don't THINK about the rest of you. You have to do something to enter our world, for us to regard you, and - unfortunately - that's usually someone trying to take advantage of us.
Insisting we're anti-Semitic is just more racism - and not reality.
Every day it's the same: Whites are determined to blame blacks for something - while ignoring what role they played in getting us here.
Are Black people responsible for anything, or is it all "Whitey's fault!"?
He wishes it were clear cut:
Translation: he doesn't want to acknowledge that 'diversity' brings diverse racists into the nation who are brown, black, yellow etc.
He wants to clearly blame the far right.
The 'far right' doesn't care. We live in Whitelandia and do our jobs, go to church, punish criminals and quietly vote. We get impatient with excuses. I have never done graffiti. I've maybe once when I was 12 broken A window.
Angst is for Democrats and other permanent victims.
1868 was the beginning of the earth minbari I mean the first insurrection against Spanish colonialism, in cuba.
It took American intervention, perhaps because of the error with the USS Maine to free Cuba from the grasp of Spain, of course there were echoes there with one of weylers men who became a landowner was Fidel's father.
So I started reading the early posts in which he is excused because Jews were (or are?) black oppressors. And lastly read the post in which conservatives get more mileage out of this because the guy hit on a few hot buttons.
Man...sometimes crazy is just crazy. Sometimes hate is brewed for no good reason and to make excuses for it within a community is just keeping the brewing going.
Crack- Jews are weak? You freakin kidding me? Y'all have tried to eliminate us for eons. You keep picking on the studious, the Hasidic, or those sitting in a Synagogue praying. The people who have created Israel out of the desert, and today and everyday defend it against the world are not a weak people. Don't kid yourself. This is not the generation that is going to be marched into cattle cars again- not by anyone.
Yoga is one of those things which isn't spiritual when talking to mom and dad or someone of another faith, but IS spiritual if one wants to play victimhood Bingo.
Gahrie said...
"Are Black people responsible for anything, or is it all "Whitey's fault!"?"
Sure, but there are limits to what I'll blame blacks for, knowing what this country's done and does to us.
Not wanting to negotiate fairly - from Day One - doesn't speak well for white folks, Gahr. No reparations for slavery, Reconstruction, giving whites land we couldn't have, red-lining, unfair laws, lynching, etc.?
No - you get all the blame you deserve - without the guilt, of course.
And it was the landed classes that chose this oppressors son over a mulatto officer who had presided over the greatest social reform of that time, the 1940 constitution.
@Crack
While I was in the hot tub, I prayed for some guidance in what I could say to you that is free from the desire to win out over you or to avenge myself against you. Here it is.
A few old black deacons can be found every Sunday at your local black Baptist church. They had successful careers and lives. Go meet one of them. Let him play the role of father in your life. You don't even have to tell him why you are there. He'll know.
He will expect you to read the Scriptures and memorize the Ten Commandments. If you are going to fight against that, don't go.
Its not madness, it is politics.
Its a one-way ratchet of hatred, which is entirely logical inside the limited box in which it operates.
Thucydides on the effect of faction - Pelopponesian War, 3.82-83
You Americans are there.
Now some speculate that our islands sad fate was in part karma for not letting the st. Louis disembark but I think that casuistry.
"It's funny - Ann doesn't attack blacks daily.
What's wrong with the rest of you?"
I think that there is a bit of pent up anger there. And for much of the country, Obama made it significantly worse. Whites are below Blacks on the intersectionality matrix, and one of the ramifications is the demand for unequal Justice, for going easy on Black crimes and Black Criminals. We are seeing the Furguson Effect infect more and more Blue cities across the country, where law and order are taking a back seat to the rage of the loudest, and often most thuggish, voices in the black communities. But being on the bottom of the intersectionality matrix, we can't complain, except, in a case like this, where Blacks act badly towards a minority that we have even more collective guilt for oppressing, and our oppression was about half as far back in time. Yes, we (actually the Democrats) had Black slaves, but slavery was abolished a century and a half ago, after a lot of White (Republican) blood was spilled to make it happen. But 75 years ago, our government turned its collective back on the plight of the Jews in Europe, allowing a significant percentage of them to be slaughtered by the (real) Nazis. Maybe to simplify, the left puts Blacks above Jews in terms of victim status points, while the right probably goes the other way, and won't tolerate antisemitism on the part of anyone, including Blacks, whom the left excuses as more aggrieved. I should add that for most of us here, Muslims, white, black, or green, are far below anyone here, having no claim on our collective moral consciousnesses, while having tried to conquer Christendom by force of arms fairly continuously for the last 1300 years. If they want to hate on Jews, in this country, then we should probably just shoot them dead, with bullets smeared in pork blood, to keep them from their 72 virgins in paradise. Ok, maybe a little extreme.
Getting back to Obama, he was never a uniter. Always a divider. That is how the Democrats maintain power, and have for at least much of the last century, by playing demographic groups against each other. Up until then, Whites could try to ignore color differences and try to live by MLK's color of their soul adage. But then Obama put a pair of racist Blacks in charge of the DoJ, esp. Eric Holder, and Obama and Holder tried to impose racism on the DoJ, and, thus, the American justice system. Repeatedly, with Trayvon Martin, with Mike Brown, when they tried to kill a White (or Hispanic), the guys who killed them in legal self defense were the ones put on trial, and the murderous thugs who died were lionized. Think of what it says to the country about equality of Justice, when the President of the US publicly states that if he had had a boy, he would have liked it to have been like Martin, who had attacked Zimmerman from behind, sucker punched him, knocked him to the ground, sat on him MMA style, beating his head into the concrete walk, and then tried to strangle him, before Martin was shot and killed, still sitting on top of his victim. Apparently, according to Obama, what was more important than the fact that Martin was a murderous thug, who could easily have killed Zimmerman with his actions, wad that he was Black.
Temujin said...
"Crack- Jews are weak? You freakin kidding me?"
I said "physically weak" and that's after having a Jewish roommate who could break me in half, so don't get your panties in knot.
"Y'all have tried to eliminate us for eons."
You can't "Y'all" me - I am a descendent of "West Africa" and American slavery - I have no recognizable past beyond 1619. No family tree to admire. Your beef is with someone else.
"You keep picking on the studious, the Hasidic, or those sitting in a Synagogue praying."
No - I've protected them with my own life on countless occasions while they prayed - that's what a Shabbos does. Even the atheists.
"The people who have created Israel out of the desert, and today and everyday defend it against the world are not a weak people."
No - they are corrupt - having killed the people who were already living there.
"Don't kid yourself."
Oh, I don't - the Israelis did something as horrible as what was done to them - and now use other's blood as their point of pride.
"This is not the generation that is going to be marched into cattle cars again- not by anyone."
I agree. But blacks never marched anyone anywhere - Jews exploited us - so get your head out of your ass.
My family name is arteaga, which was of some note in the colonial era and some instances in the republic.
Thucydides was of the pericles faction, so he could not own up to the peloponnesian debacle.
What is the only type of person you are allowed to (and sometimes obligated to) discriminate against today?
I have no recognizable past beyond 1619. No family tree to admire
Me either. In fact I can't trace my family back that far. So what?
- against an entire society that eliminated laws against discrimination - but not the culture of it.
I suppose I live in a different culture. Not sure what it's like on the coasts, but the people I know judge actions, not skin, sex or creed.
Weird.
My great-great grandmother was lady-in-waiting to Valeriano Weyler, when he was Governor of Cuba. Her brother was an aide de camp to Weyler, in his various posts.
Bruce Hayden said...
"I think that there is a bit of pent up anger there. And for much of the country, Obama made it significantly worse."
That's a lot of words to be wrong. Obama didn't do anything - y'all put your expectations on him and he didn't meet your assumptions. Blame yourselves. Oh - I forgot: Whites can't do that. For anything.
The country has a racial problem. Always has. Part of it is whites expecting blacks to fix it. Like their racism is our responsibility. (It's not). Where's the white MLK in all these years? Why is there no expectation of one - or demand for one - from whites?
Y'all fool yourselves, I think - the attachment to the NewAge says so - and blame others for it.
Rockefeller was the last Republican who acted like he understood and cared about blacks.
It's a pity.
Rockefeller was the last Republican who acted like he understood and cared about blacks.
You're not even going to give us Colin Powell?
The old time religion was what sustained the people, you think its but dross,
One admits that Jim crow was a grievous wound but it's like the argument clinic with you.
On another branch of the family, we are related to the Dorticos of Cienfuegos, one of whom, Osvaldo Dorticos Torrado, was an associate of Fidel Castro, who made him the nominal President of Cuba 1959-76.
My great-uncle the communist attempted to defect to Cuba in the 1960s. He got as far as Mexico before reconsidering.
Annie C said...
"I suppose I live in a different culture. Not sure what it's like on the coasts, but the people I know judge actions, not skin, sex or creed.
Weird"
The people you know still don't take context into consideration, so you're unfair. That's fine to you, not to anyone else. I'm sure most of the people around you got land or houses from the government others couldn't somewhere down the line - fine by you, I'm sure, too - and you judge from there, right? Oh, you and yours got this justice thing all sewn up. Blacks are poorer than you - through government decree and not effort - fine by you and yours, and that's where you judge from.
It just goes on as a long tyranny of wrong.
Interesting my family is more from the Havana province.
narciso said...
"One admits that Jim crow was a grievous wound but it's like the argument clinic with you."
The country never made up for any of it. As Malcolm said, they took the knife out - but didn't heal the wound.
Gahrie said...
"You're not even going to give us Colin Powell?"
No, because every time he speaks for blacks, the white conservatives attack him, too - so you don't "get" him.
He's ours.
Now that you realize why I kept reminding you Kanye's bi-polar, I'll let you have him. You liked him a few days ago.
Half the Jews in Europe were wiped out, how does that compare with anything.
Gahrie said...
I have no recognizable past beyond 1619. No family tree to admire
Me either. In fact I can't trace my family back that far. So what?
So you can't blame American blacks for African escapades. Learn to follow along, Gahrie.
Gahrie said...
"What is the only type of person you are allowed to (and sometimes obligated to) discriminate against today?"
The people who started the whole racism thing here?
When he defends Obama almost as readily as prince bandar, when he fronted for the bloodletting in Benghazi,
I still like Kanye. Bipolar is moody, not cognitively impaired. My favorite line of his? "Taste this!" then a gorgeous riff comes up. He's using bipolar as a dodge, fine.
When he disdained small town Americans, when he enabled a radical Islamist like khizh Khan, that's a just an attaboy from the upper east side.
Sorry, I just can't relate, Crack. Maybe I just go through life wearing blinders, or maybe the people around me do, but I have never had a conversation with anyone that seemed to think they were owed something. Including a shit-ton of blacks.
Okay, maybe toddlers and some adolescents, but their thought processes aren't quite developed yet.
Given Polite's history, I would think this isn't a hate crime, but a false flag. In other words, it was done so that "white nationalists" could be blamed.
I am reasonably handy but some cracks can't be fixed
Yancey, the important thing (and disappointing to Democrats) is this 'crime' can't be pinned on Republicans credibly, at least without using the Six Degrees of White Guilt that some advocate.
Round these parts black landlords (whether they be Jews or not), and Jews, have the same complaints about tennants.
Two inch plexiglas wasn't invented for party stores.
Annie C said...
"Sorry, I just can't relate, Crack. Maybe I just go through life wearing blinders, or maybe the people around me do, but I have never had a conversation with anyone that seemed to think they were owed something. Including a shit-ton of blacks."
Really? Ahat does relating have to do with anything? Where's your cognitive functions? Your mechanisms for logic? Are you telling me, since the call for reparations started long before the death of Martin Luther King, you've been living all this time with your fingers in your ears and singing to yourself? Or do you mean, as is true for most whites, you just DON'T LISTEN to what you don't want to hear?
I swear, Annie, I want to see whites as nice people, but you don't make it easy. There's a long list of lies, murders, broken deals, rapes, lynchings, and other betrayals, you want overlooked as soon as possible - that you think no one is owed for and no one should pay for. Others should just live with. Because you're "happy".
That's what a child is like.
FIDO said...
I am reasonably handy but some cracks can't be fixed
A crack is how the light gets in.
- Leonard Cohen
"No act of gun violence is acceptable," Gillum tweeted.
Gun violence. Note that it's the gun, not the person, being violent.
BUMBLE BEE said...
Round these parts black landlords (whether they be Jews or not), and Jews, have the same complaints about tennants.
Two inch plexiglas wasn't invented for party stores.
And it's a great country that, both, creates that as an existence for it's citizens, and - obviously - likes it that way.
tim in vermont said...
I still like Kanye. Bipolar is moody, not cognitively impaired.
Bullshit. It makes them illogical, impulsive - all kinds of shit. Not so much they can't always function, but enough to keep an eye on 'em.
Polite is an obvious zombie. Trace the chain of abusers back far enough and you presumably get to the assassin Ray or whoever controlled him.
"We hardly envy Jews. They condescend too much, took part in our oppression, and look too physically weak, for blacks to even admire them."
I see the homeless man's jesse Jackson is more like the homeless man's Al Sharpton. It's good that your talentless racist ass is often without a roof over your head, and the world will be a better place when you are rotting dead in a gutter somewhere. No one will mourn your loss.
I don't know Crack. The people I work with and socialize with just don't spend a whole lot of time agonizing over history. Most of them are too busy working, having relationships, raising children, enjoying grandchildren, having their triumphs and tradegies.
I guess I just don't surround myself with the kind of people that dwell on injustice. They just go out and do their thing and try to live a better life today than they did yesterday.
Maybe you have a lot of time for, and interest in, all the injustice and wrong-think in this country. There are a bunch of people that do their best to make their little part of the world better and then, before you know it, they have to go to bed and do it all over again tomorrow.
Be kind, be caring, be strong and be prepared. It may not take down Scientology, but I've got to get up and go wo work. I don't have time to prostrate myself for the sins of all humans in the past ... or even the ones today that I cannot affect.
"What makes a Jew exploit blacks he rents to?"
Property taxes, mortgages, needing to be paid the rent?
"We hardly envy Jews. They condescend too much, took part in our oppression, and look too physically weak, for blacks to even admire them."
What shit did I do now? Wait wait I know. Christ was black, and I killed him.
So now we know that Crack is not just a racist but an anti-Semite as well.
Well said, Annie C. @10:27.
As the only 400 year old person on this blog, I am here to apologize.
My bad.
Sorry.
Thanks mockturtle.
You know, I remember as a kid, hearing about mock turtle soup. And there was a recipe for mock apple pie on the back of the Ritz cracker box for the longest time.
The people who started the whole racism thing here?
Racism started here? There was no racism before the English colonized North America? Or do you mean started racism in North America. That's still ridiculous, because it's antecedent, tribalism, was here long before the White man.
But at least it's refreshing to see you admit your racism. Will my grandchildren get Affirmative Action because I was victimized by your racism?
You know, I remember as a kid, hearing about mock turtle soup. And there was a recipe for mock apple pie on the back of the Ritz cracker box for the longest time.
Mock turtle soup was quite popular in Lewis Carroll's day, hence the character.
"What makes a 20-year-old black man write that?"
He was probably emboldened by Trump. No doubt that was what most liberals thought until they found out who did it. Then they went to the next step in the flow chart.
President-Mom-Jeans said...
"I see the homeless man's jesse Jackson is more like the homeless man's Al Sharpton."
This guy is beacon of enlightenment, if ever this blog produced one. My online Lee Atwater, straight from the ether of the internet.
"It's good that your talentless racist ass is often without a roof over your head, and the world will be a better place when you are rotting dead in a gutter somewhere."
I don't know where you get this stuff from, but it's your schtick, so have at it.
I'm not going to look for articles saying I have talent - there's enough that you can find them yourself. And I'm not stupid enough to do like whites and say "I'm not a racist" in America, because that would be lying, and I'm leaving that to you.
"No one will mourn your loss."
I hear otherwise. Why is reality so difficult for some whites to process? Why are their narratives so important to their mental well-being? Is it because those narratives are lies, they need, to feel good about themselves?
Whites - and the desire of some to hurt blacks in any way imaginable - is one reason for reparations. No one should have to live like this.
How's the sharecropping going, Crack? Working hard, or hardly working?
Gahrie said...
The people who started the whole racism thing here?
Racism started here? There was no racism before the English colonized North America?
Your first question totally misreads what I said - then you seemed to miss the word "here" in your second question - how did you do that?
Char Char Binks said...
"How's the sharecropping going, Crack? Working hard, or hardly working?"
Do you guys intentionally misunderstand or are you just stupid? Do you think legally ripping-off American citizens for a century had an economic impact on them or not?
mockturtle said...
"So now we know that Crack is not just a racist but an anti-Semite as well."
So all that wearing-Jewish-clothes/working at the synagogue stuff disappears because you misunderstand what I'm saying.
And you guys don't think a lifetime of that shit's worth reparations?
I've known others who live on bitterness and resentment. They seldom live long and they never live well.
Bad Lieutenant said...
"What shit did I do now? Wait wait I know. Christ was black, and I killed him."
You guys don't want to talk about anything realistically - you either want to make enemies, if people don't agree with you 100%, or you spread lies of pastel colors.
That's the very situation I want to be paid for having to endure.
"You people" misunderstand and make assumptions.
It's different when I do it.
/TCE
Natives, who used to be 100% of the population here, see the humor.
"I want."
"I do not want."
And now we have reached an impasse.
I'm sorry my feelings about Jews and Israel are more complex than the simple love/hate binary you guys are trying to insist on, but, life is more complex than that, and there's nothing you or I can do about it.
I'm also sorry my love for my people and adherence to reality is more important than making your narrative "work" but that's the way it is until reality comes into conflict with my people - then and only then do I change my mind - but not for you.
Your ahistorical gaslighting gets nothing from me but ridicule.
Don't mind the anti-Semitic garbage the Homeless Man's Al Sharpton spews, he said he has Jewish friends! He is like Marvel Super Hero Black Panther, guarding their doors. How dare you point out his retarded racist rants.
And don't call him untalented, otherwise he will explain why despite being the greatest musical genius in history, he is forced to E-beg constantly.
All you Cracker's just don't get what a gifted artist and champion of the Jewish people that is the Homeless Man's Al Sharpton. Don't gaslight him.
The Homeless Man's Al Sharpton says "That's the very situation I want to be paid for having to endure."
Everybody give Crack some money. You see, instead of working or doing anything productive with his sad existence, instead he deserves to be paid for shiftlessly spewing his retarded rants on Althouse's blog. Don't give her money though, that honky devil woman, give it to Crack.
Don't be binary, "you guys" as I talk about "my people".
The irony impaired may not get it.
The notion of "gaslighting" is hilarious. Lefties think their mental problems are controlled by a vast right-wing conspiracy.
Still, Crack has a point. A thousand years from now, if there are still Blacks, they will still HAVE BEEN sharecroppers, and thus will still have an excuse for their own failures.
Now let's all join in singing "We Can't Overcome".
COEXISTFPABLMD
I must admit, Crack, that since I have been unable to engage you seriously, I feel entitled at least to have my fun. Okay. Let's take it in small bites.
What did the Jewish landlords do to the blacks? Rent to them? Insist on being paid?
"The suspect in a synagogue vandalism act that forced the cancellation of a Democratic event is reportedly a former City Hall employee who worked on anti-hate crime issues and is a Democratic activist, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned. "
I am so shocked! :^0
it is until reality comes into conflict with my people
Are you suggesting that I'm not "your people" and/or that Black people can't be "my people" because I'm White?
how did you do that?
Racism.
Crack: "I repeat: I've been the Shabbas for two synagogues"
Sounds just like, "Some of my best friends are negroes."
Racist and anti-semitic, I agree.
Another thread of comments despoiled.
The CRACK ADDICT MT (empty) is a disease. He's living his life as a victim. I'm quite sure he is productive and loves his fellow man. What a loser.
Tim, does this black lib go by the name CRACK?
A Crack thread.
Riveting reading.
Or not.
President-Mom-Jeans said...
"he said he has Jewish friends!"
I said Jews dressed me as a foster child, you moron.
"And don't call him untalented, otherwise he will explain why despite being the greatest musical genius in history, he is forced to E-beg constantly."
Forced? People imagine things weirdly on the internet. People not in music have bizarre ideas what it means to be in it. My stepfather is the world's greatest bass player and one of the world's greatest composers, but this internet fool - who is unknown even to himself - thinks he knows more than I do about it. I have 30 CDs to my name. He has none. I can name a million great artists he's never heard of. He thinks not hearing of me means I'm a failure. The man is a fool.
"All you Cracker's just don't get what a gifted artist and champion of the Jewish people that is the Homeless Man's Al Sharpton. Don't gaslight him."
When YOU are an atheist, trusted enough to be asked by Jews to watch over them as they pray, then you come talk shit to me - but, until then, shut the fuck up.
Char Char Binks said...
"Now let's all join in singing "We Can't Overcome"."
Both MLK and RFK said there'd be a black president in 40 years - and there was - right on time. So blacks are progressing as expected, no faster and no slower, which is a shame but still puts the lie to what you say.
I wonder why whites are so compelled to lie about race? It always makes them look bad and destroys that superior image that's so important to their wellbeing.
Bad Lieutenant said...
"What did the Jewish landlords do to the blacks? Rent to them? Insist on being paid?"
I'm not even, since none of you can even agree whites have ever done anything to blacks - ever. You're all angels, spreading chiffon dreams, who just happen to be covered in blood.
Gahrie said...
"Are you suggesting that I'm not "your people" and/or that Black people can't be "my people" because I'm White?"
No - so now what are you going to think if your worst assumptions aren't true?
Marcus said...
"Sounds just like, "Some of my best friends are negroes.""
You skipped over the part about them dressing me as a child (my first white best friend being a Jew in high school and me raising money to plant trees in Israel) the roommate I said can break me in half - I think whites LIKE skipping over a lot of shit so they can write a lie on someone. Gives them a thrill.
Whites do that with history a LOT.
"Racist and anti-semitic, I agree."
And that's all it takes for whites: they make up their minds and IT MUST BE TRUE. GO GET A ROPE.
"Another thread of comments despoiled."
Or wrongheaded white assumptions run amok - again.
tosa east said...
"He's living his life as a victim."
I want you guys to all run up to the next hit-and-run you see and tell the injured there are no victims, ok?
Man, ideologues are stupid.
tosa east said...
"Tim, does this black lib go by the name CRACK?"
"Black lib" who joined the Republican Party in 2004, but left this year, because assholes like you can't get beyond your ideology to a point of actually thinking, so fuck all y'all.
Get it right.
BTW - I go by "The Crack Emcee" because that was the title given to me.
Jim at said...
"A Crack thread.
Riveting reading.
Or not."
I notice there's never any "Jim at" threads, so I'll take it.
tosa east said...
"He's living his life as a victim."
I found a hit-and-run - go contact them and say there are no victims in America:
Ideologues are liars.
tosa east said...
"He's living his life as a victim."
All people are saying, when they take this line, is they've abandoned their humanity for an ideology.
And it's a sick ideology, too.
The homeless man's all Sharpton said "then you come talk shit to me - but, until then, shut the fuck up."
Oh lawdy, Crack, you done told me. I'll cower and shut up because Marvel's Black Panther was abused by Jewish people who used him as a human doll and literally dressed him. This adds even more money that he is owed in reparations for his terrible treatment.
And don't you ever say that his stepfather (not his sperm donor real father who wisely abandoned him) isn't the greatest base player of all time, despite nobody ever heard of him. Don't you know that the Homeless Man's Al Sharpton burned 30 cds? 30 CDS! You know, those things people produce themselves but have to e-beg for money because no one buys them?
Crack...Jews exploited you? So tired of that BS that gets handed around like its a general fact. Do you have visions of Jews as a group sitting around and planning how they can exploit blacks on the side while sending millions of dollars to organizations supposed to be 'helping' black Americans, giving up their own lives to stand up for freedom in the early days of the Civil Rights Movement? Or by continuing to stand up for black Americans in every facet of life here because- as you know- too many of my people seem to be filled with the white guilt of Liberalism? We Jews must be very busy people, holding down and exploiting the black community while we're also controlling the world at large. It gets very hard. No wonder I'm so tired.
What I know from watching my own people: Jews as a group seem to be singularly focused on trying to help the black community even as they're derided by the black community. It's been that way through my entire life. I never got that.
I/we don't sit around trying to figure out how to exploit you or your people. Jews, like most people, are trying to get through this life, one day at a time, focusing on their own family and daily issues. Figure out where your real hate comes from. I'm not arguing the state of black America is a direct result of white America. It is. Currently its also a direct result of black America itself. There's a ton of blame to hand out here. And change? I don't see it getting better. I see it getting worse- people doing the same things and hoping something will change.
As a people- you've got plenty to point to. But as an entire people to say that blacks hate Jews because Jews exploit them? Just idiocy. It may work for you, but it's just a sloppy fallback. And, while my head may be in my ass from time to time, I can take it out and get a new perspective when needed. Reading your responses here, for years- I don't think you can. But you need to. Some day.
I'm not here to destroy you, exploit you, or keep you down. I've got too much on my plate to even think about you- except for a few minutes every once in awhile in this stupid little blog. You piss me off because you're one of the intelligent ones I look for when I do read these posts, and yet you exhaust me with your bottomless pit of hate.
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