September 16, 2018

Kavanaugh's accuser has come forward — now what?

WaPo reports that the woman who wrote the confidential letter accusing Brett M. Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when he was 17 is Christine Blasey Ford.
After so many years, Ford said she does not remember some key details of the incident. She said she believes it occurred in the summer of 1982, when she was 15, around the end of her sophomore year at the all-girls Holton-Arms School in Bethesda. Kavanaugh would have been 17 at the end of his junior year at Georgetown Prep.

At the time, Ford said, she knew Kavanaugh and [his classmate Mark] Judge as “friendly acquaintances” in the private-school social circles of suburban Maryland....

Ford said she does not remember how the gathering came together the night of the incident.... She also doesn’t recall who owned the house or how she got there.

Ford said she remembers that it was in Montgomery County, not far from the country club, and that no parents were home at the time. Ford named two other teenagers who she said were at the party. Those individuals did not respond to messages on Sunday morning.

She said she recalls a small family room where she and a handful of others drank beer together that night. She said that each person had one beer but that Kavanaugh and Judge had started drinking earlier and were heavily intoxicated.

In his senior-class yearbook entry at Georgetown Prep, Kavanaugh made several references to drinking, claiming membership to the “Beach Week Ralph Club” and “Keg City Club.” He and Judge are pictured together at the beach in a photo in the yearbook.

Judge is a filmmaker and author who has written for the Daily Caller, The Weekly Standard and The Washington Post. He chronicled his recovery from alcoholism in “Wasted: Tales of a Gen-X Drunk,” which described his own blackout drinking and a culture of partying among students at his high school, renamed in the book “Loyola Prep.” Kavanaugh is not mentioned in the book, but a passage about partying at the beach one summer makes glancing reference to a “Bart O’Kavanaugh,” who “puked in someone’s car the other night” and “passed out on his way back from a party.”...

Ford said that on the night of the party, she left the family room to use the bathroom, which was at the top of a narrow stairway. She doesn’t remember whether Kavanaugh and Judge were behind her or already upstairs, but she remembers being pushed into a bedroom and then onto a bed. Rock-and-roll music was playing with the volume turned up high, she said.

She alleges that Kavanaugh — who played football and basketball at Georgetown Prep — held her down with the weight of his body and fumbled with her clothes, seemingly hindered by his intoxication. Judge stood across the room, she said, and both boys were laughing “maniacally.” She said she yelled, hoping that someone downstairs would hear her over the music, and Kavanaugh clapped his hand over her mouth to silence her.

At one point, she said, Judge jumped on top of them, and she tried unsuccessfully to wriggle free. Then Judge jumped on them again, toppling them, and she broke away, she said.

She said she locked herself in the bathroom and listened until she heard the boys “going down the stairs, hitting the walls.” She said that after five or ten minutes, she unlocked the door and made her way through the living room and outside. She isn’t sure how she got home....

She said she recalled thinking: “I’m not ever telling anyone this. This is nothing, it didn’t happen, and he didn’t rape me.”

Years later, after going through psychotherapy, Ford said, she came to understand the incident as a trauma with lasting impact on her life.

“I think it derailed me substantially for four or five years,” she said. She said she struggled academically and socially and was unable to have healthy relationships with men. “I was very ill-equipped to forge those kinds of relationships.”

She also said she believes that in the longer term, it contributed to anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms with which she has struggled....

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Lawrence Person said...

Now we ignore it as the fake Democratic PR firm-planted delay tactic it was and vote to confirm Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

The Godfather said...

Wasn't there something about a pubic hair on a coke bottle?

R C Belaire said...

I've read elsewhere that Kavanaugh's name was never used when she spoke to her therapist. Anyone else see that? Here we go - she said, he said...

Yancey Ward said...

Notice how she can't recall any details about anyone else interacting with her that night. The story is told this way because it is impossible to refute by asking those other people about inviting her to their house, or driving her home.

As I wrote in the other thread some commenter I read last week made the prediction that the anonymous at that time accuser would turn out to be a college professor and have a history of political donations to Democrats. Whoever that person was, I want to congratulate you for a truly brilliant pair of predictions.

0_0 said...

If she can't remember, why bring it up in 2018? (duh) If every word is recalled correctly and true, what now?

>Godfather, it was a can.

tcrosse said...

Grassley statement: "The committee vote on Judge Kavanaugh's nomination will proceed as scheduled, next Thurs. Here’s what we know: Judge Kavanaugh has undergone six FBI full-field investigations from 1993 to 2018. No such allegation resembling the anonymous claims ever surfaced"

Spiros Pappas said...

I don't like the fact that she won't nail down the date. Mr. Kavanaugh is denied the opportunity to establish an alibi.

clint said...

If there's going to be an irrefutable and unconfirmable accusation leveled against every Republican nominee, then such an accusation has exactly zero probative value; it proves only that Kavanaugh was nominated by Trump.

What's the over-under on how many of these accusations will surface in October against GOP congressional candidates in close races?

Jim at said...

Thanks a lot, Alabama voters.
You let them pull this shit with Roy Moore and now they're doing it again.

Francisco D said...

A few issues that cloud her report:

1. Why did she have an FBI examiner give her a lie detector test if she never planned to come forward?

2. Why is her name scrubbed (as of early this AM) from the Palo Alto U. website?

3. Why can she not remember where the party was held or how many boys were in the room?

The timing suggest to me that the Democrats want a press-based inquiry rather than one with lawyers asking tough questions. The way this was handled seems to be an attempt to have a college type "sexual assault" inquiry where the accused is presumed guilty and has no legal rights whatsoever.

Meade said...

30 some years later she doesn’t remember where she was. Doesn’t remember how she got home. But we’re suppose to accept her memory of which boy did what? This is #metooonsteroids.

fivewheels said...

"Notice how she can't recall any details about anyone else interacting with her that night."

I don't like the fact that she won't nail down the date. Mr. Kavanaugh is denied the opportunity to establish an alibi.

Very astute observations.

Hey, I was a teenager in the '80s. Something like this could have happened. I just think it's odd that suddenly it's a point in favor of your credibility that you've been under psychiatric care for years.

Shouting Thomas said...

If there is any validity to this, and she's traumatized by this, she should lock her doors and never go outside again. She's not strong enough for human society.

Nobody is that fragile. Even if it happened, she's lying about the purported trauma.

Anonymous said...

The goal here is not about truth or fairness. I'd feel sorry for this pathetic display but they are doing some legitimately bad things.

Francisco D said...

Dianne Feinstein in Mediaite:

"From the outset, I have believed these allegations were extremely serious and bear heavily on Judge Kavanaugh’s character. However, as we have seen over the past few days, they also come at a price for the victim. I hope the attacks and shaming of her will stop and this will be treated with the seriousness it deserves.

I support Mrs. Ford’s decision to share her story, and now that she has, it is in the hands of the FBI to conduct an investigation. This should happen before the Senate moves forward on this nominee."


Is anyone surprised?

Matt said...

All women must be believed when they claim to have been victims of abuse!

Well, you know, all women except Paula Jones, Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willey, Karen Monahan, the waitress sandwich ladies...

Shouting Thomas said...

From the outset, I have believed these allegations were extremely serious...

No, they aren't.

stevew said...

Do you accurately remember what happened that night in your junior year in high school at a party where people were drinking? Do you remember the specific details of who did what to whom? Did you even remember accurately the next day? Nah, me neither.

-sw

Hagar said...

There is an awful lot she does not remember, or not very clearly.
So what if it happened, but it was not Kavanaugh? The other person involved, Mark Judge, needs to be called on the carpet, but then he has already admitted to being a recovering alcoholic.
Or it was Kavanaugh, but he was very drunk and really do not remember.
When I was that age, 17, I very clearly remembered everything, including things I wished I did not, but several other kids had no idea what they had done or anything else after they got drunk enough.
The one thing that is sure is that tomorrow the media will really go batshit crazy over this.

TestTube said...

Why should conservatives feel bad about Trump's boorish past when mainstream Democrats are behaving - en masse - so much worse in the present?

Meade said...

Young people make mistakes. Sometimes they go to parties they shouldn’t be at. Trump will now be forced to go back to his list, study it very very closely, and give the appointment to someone who has never been a teen.

Shouting Thomas said...

I repeat, even if this story is true, so what?

Do we now apply the Princess and the Pea standard to women?

Yancey Ward said...

As for "What now?", there is only one answer if the Senate leadership has any fucking brains at all- proceed with both the committee vote and the confirmation`vote. If the Republicans fall for this disgusting maneuver orchestrated by Feinstein and the other Democrats, the Republicans don't deserve to have a majority after November, and I won't vote for one- I will stay home.

tcrosse said...

Trump will now be forced to go back to his list, study it very very closely, and give the appointment to someone who has never been a teen.

That would be Ted Cruz.

BamaBadgOR said...

Professor, what are the odds that the two most famous accusers of SCOTUS nominees of sexual misconduct, Anita Hill and Christine Blasey Ford, are both professors?

campy said...

Lawrence Person got it with the first comment. Confirm, or give up and let the dems rule unchallenged forever.

It's really that simple.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

This makes me want to vote for him for something, anything.

Michael K said...

Years later, after going through psychotherapy, Ford said, she came to understand the incident as a trauma with lasting impact on her life.

Key sentence. This is a damaged woman. Damaged by something but we don't know what.

The therapist's notes say four boys but Ford says that was "an error."

This is pretty lame. It reminds me of the scene in "Anatomy of a Murder" where the DA says "We'll have to use him. "

Then they bring out the jail snitch with 6 foot long crime record.

Dave Begley said...

She allegedly deleted all of her social media accounts this weekend.

Expect a full circus on Thursday.

Michael K said...

Blogger tcrosse said...
Trump will now be forced to go back to his list, study it very very closely, and give the appointment to someone who has never been a teen.

That would be Ted Cruz.


That's for later, after RBG croaks.

chuck said...

One never knows for sure in this sorry world and I was worried that the accusation might have some credibility. Now I don't think so, too many holes: vague memories, disagreement with therapist's notes, troubled marriage and past, clinical psychology professor, etc. I'm sure the accuser believes it, I have known others who created false memories, but I expect her story to come apart even more as people start to look into it. Will that affect the belief of Democrats? Again, I doubt it. In these crazy time I fully expect most Democrats to take up the cry. The best we can hope for is that a few will #walkaway from the crazy.

mezzrow said...

It's like the Democrats don't want those nasty male votes. Let's see how this works for them.

Hagar said...

Most of us commenting so far are men. How does her story strike the women? As described, is it plausible that it so traumatized her forever after that she is still in therapy? If so, should she not remember the details more clearly? And so on.

There is also the meme(?) of some years ago when there was a big scandal about therapists making children "remember" things that never happened to them in childcare facilities or at home.

Shouting Thomas said...

The woman might have had the hots for Kavanaugh and she might have gang banging fantasies that have metastasized over the decades.

chickelit said...

Dump Feinstein in 2018!

Bob Loblaw said...

Doesn't change anything.

Narayanan said...

Interestingly narrative also pushes Trump's button against alcoholism.

Democrats relying on his virtues!!??

How does FBI vet / repeat vet anyone? Cumulative or in greater detail?

Amadeus 48 said...

I don't know Kavanaugh. This story certainly seems out of character for the mature man. I remember all too well the awkward, fumbling, embarrassing pre-sexual encounters of adolescence, so who knows if this was in character for the teen macho-jocko-drunko Kavanaugh?

I think the adult Kavanaugh is pretty far from that teen.

What were JFK, RFK, MLK, WJC's excuses for their behavior as adults? High spirits, I suppose.

Static Ping said...

From what we have so far, we basically have nothing. There is a vague story with no date, no location, no witnesses, brought up 35 years after the fact by a partisan who is undergoing psychiatric treatment and probably was at least tipsy at the time. A story that was brought up at the last possible moment despite the fact that it was known two months ago, which implies that Feinstein herself does not find the story credible and/or she wanted to use it as an overt dirty trick, which means she put her party above her country, which makes the story all the more dubious. A story that does not corroborate anything we know about the man or the FBI knows about the man or apparently anyone knows about the man, and for that matter does not fully jive with the story she gave her psychiatrist. A story which could have been shared at any time, given Kavanaugh has gone through several rounds of confirmation hearings.

At the moment, this is essentially one step up from a homeless person on a street corner accusing walker-bys of being Satan. There is nothing actionable here.

mockturtle said...

Sounds to me like she was shit-faced drunk.

D 2 said...

There has been a list of possible nominees since before the election. Is it wrong to think there is a story ready to break during the hearing of every one of them.

Laslo Spatula said...

"After so many years, Ford said she does not remember some key details of the incident. She said she believes it occurred in the summer of 1982... ...Ford said she does not remember how the gathering came together the night of the incident.... She also doesn’t recall who owned the house or how she got there..."

So is she kinda saying she was black-out drunk?

Or just keeping options open to move the time and place and people around to fit around whatever constraining facts are to be found later?

Thirty years is just too long to etc etc etc.

I am Laslo.

chickelit said...

@mockturtle: I remember some of those type of underage drinking parties in the 1970s. None of the girls ever drank.

Michael K said...

Case closed. From Rate my Professor:

"Christine ford is the worst educator I have ever experienced. Avoid taking her class and avoid any interaction with this person. I feel like she has something wrong with her and I am surprised no one has caught this. Also avoid fullerton's MSW program as long as she is there."

Ford also scrubbed all her online accounts even her professional profile on Linked in.

Derek Kite said...

My question is how much was she paid to write this?

chuck said...

> Sounds to me like she was shit-faced drunk.

I'm sure we will be hearing much more about the teenaged Kavanaugh and Ford in the near future.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Francisco D quotes Dianne Feinstein:

I support Mrs. Ford’s decision to share her story, and now that she has, it is in the hands of the FBI to conduct an investigation.

Why would the FBI conduct an investigation? What federal crime is implicated in these actions? As far as possible state/local crimes, what is the statues of limitations?

Tank said...

This stinks worse than a smelly cat.

Michael K said...


Blogger Derek Kite said...
My question is how much was she paid to write this?


I think this is voluntary. She also wrote letters to the editor on Trump's border policy.

A left wing psych professor from Palo Alto.

Maybe she knew him but maybe this is another UVA rape story.


William said...

Can you ruin a man's life on such evidence? Well, it's worth a try.

Michael K said...

Why would the FBI conduct an investigation?

They already did as a background investigation for the nomination.

Nothing came up. DiFi redacted the woman's name when she said she gave it to the FBI.

virgil xenophon said...

I had "one beer." Is there a parent or police officer alive who hasn't heard that one before? That was the first thing that set my BS meter vibrating. But what really pegged the meter was the major inconsistency: Totally vague about some details but remembers others in exquisite detail. Can't have it both ways--especially if "one beer" sober. In the words of my patron saint of philosophers Lilly Tomlin: "I TRY to be cynical--but I can't keep up."

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The timing. Even if something in HIGH SCHOOL HAPPENED, and I doubt her story is even true on any level - but then, so what? It's desperation time in camp corruptocrat.

Narayanan said...

Is it allowed or mandatory in CA to have
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/munchausen-syndrome

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

In corruptocart world - a one sided allegation is all that is needed.

MountainMan said...

I don't believe a word of it. Too predictable. Combine this last minute gotcha with the clownish antics of the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee during the hearing and I don't see how anyone could vote for any Democrat for anything. What a sorry group of people.

I feel sorry for Kavanaugh's family. First, they couldn't sit through the ridiculous hearing, now this.

But this is probably nothing compared to what the next SCOTUS nominee will face.

Arashi said...

So she scrubbed ALL of her social media accounts? What is there that she does not want to come to light? She is aware, is she not, that the internet is permanent. If she posted it, there is a saved page of it somewhere. I hope folks are looking.

She should publicly apologize to pretty much everybody at this point and go away.

Art said...

Just like a bankruptcy case or the closing of a personal estate after death, every proceeding needs a bar date. Claims made after that date no mater the merits are never heard.

In this case the bar date was the committee hearing. Anything not presented by the close of the public hearing is not of interest to the senate. There is no sworn testimony or legal complaints. If this was to be adjudicated prior to confirmation it needed to happen as part of day three of the hearing where all of the third party witnesses were heard.

Even if everything went down exactly as stated, if prosicuted at the time it would have been a juvenile charge of assult and would be sealed and unusable in the confirmation process. Since it was never even reported it certainly should not be given more effect now than a juvenile court ruling back then would have had.

traditionalguy said...

She sounds bitter about her missing an easy pregnancy and forced marriage with a built in anchor child to a rich kid with a sure fire future successful life. What was she thinking...make me another therapist appointment.

Andrew said...

The complete hatred I have for the Democratic Party is overwhelming. (I used to be a Democrat years ago.) Every time I think it can't get worse, it does. They are a pernicious and wicked group of people.I hope that the midterms can put a stake through this party once and for all, but I have no idea if that will really happen.

How many good and decent people will never involve themselves in public service because of this kind of BS?

Meade said...

"But this is probably nothing compared to what the next SCOTUS nominee will face."

Have you ever in your entire life touched anyone inappropriately? Have you ever caused another person to have hurt feelings? As a baby did you ever mishandle your mother's breast?

Twelve said...

They'll do this every single time now. The Republicans are fools (well, this goes without saying by now) if they let this work. You could find something plausible in this line on most of these Dem assholes. Why aren't the Republicans doing it? 50/50 they'll let this crap stick. The best of them are pissants. Somebody, please, act like the fucking socialists aren't playing. They're not. They'd cut your throats just like a bunch of ululating Islamo-maniacs if the way was clear. They're very near to admitting this in plain fact.

Michael K said...

How many good and decent people will never involve themselves in public service because of this kind of BS?

That's the purpose of all this.

Why do you think they go after administration people in public restaurants ?

They even admit it. They call it "normalizing."

This is war. All I would like to know is how much China is behind this.

BamaBadgOR said...

Sean Sullivan: Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) tells me in an intv he that doesn’t think the Judiciary Cmte should move ahead with its Thursday vote on Kavanaugh until they hear more from Christine Blasey Ford. “For me, we can’t vote until we hear more.”

Dave Begley said...

This woman is an obvious liar who is helping DiFi's Drive By for political reasons.

This didn't work with Anita Hill and her allegations were slightly better, but still false. Why try a losing trick a SECOND TIME? #metoo, I guess.

The girls at her high school are going to rat her out as a lunatic. Just watch.

Also expect the Dems to go completely nuts on Thursday.

Dave Begley said...

I'll remind everyone here that the Dems slimed Kavanaugh because he coaches his two girls in basketball.

Sick. Totally sick.

Andrew said...

I don't know if it would be wise politically, but I would love for Kavanaugh to file a defamation lawsuit against his accuser, Sen. Feinstein, the WaPo, and anyone else repeating the accusation. Maybe that's what it would take for this kind of thing to stop.

CWJ said...

Let's stipulate 100% true. So what! Captain Renault is shocked shocked that the man had once been a teenaged boy who engaged in embarrassing behavior. And that's assuming this 11th hour character assassin's story is true. So what!

Arashi said...

Yeah - we need to hear how the Russians were behind the incident, how Trump engineered it all so we can get on with the impeachment!

The entirety of the Democrat Party has gone total bat shit crazy. They really do seem to want to destroy America so they can stand on the smoking rubble and declare themselves in power forever.

There is nothing actionable about this - nothing. It would have been juvenile matter at the time and sealed when the parties turned 18.

It is another attempt by the democrats to lynch a SCOTUS nominee.

rcocean said...

She remembers a house, somewhere, and it was in the Summer....

And she never told anyone, in 35 years, except her therapist in 2012.

Maybe it happened, or she maybe was watching a Lifetime movie and imagined it was her.

Who knows.

Narayanan said...

Has interim AZ senator weighed in yet?

Arashi said...

Andrew,

Nice idea. Sue them all back to the stone age. Make them pay - it is past time to not respond in kind to these attacks.

rcocean said...

This is what happens when women vote.

This woman should be laughed and mocked.

Instead, 10-1 we'll probably have a hearing or maybe Collins and Murokowski will torpedo the nomination because..feelings. Where's the police report? Why didn't she report it in the 1980s, if so traumatic? Why didn't she bring it up when he up for Court of Appeals?

I can tell you, everyone woman in my life, would've laughed it off, or kicked him in the balls, or reported it. Assuming it happened. But then the women in my life, aren't weirdos, or wimps.

CWJ said...

BTW,

If true, where is the evidence that any of the judge's rulings have in any way been influenced by this incident?

rcocean said...

Democrat Hit Jobs of Sexual Harrassment:

Clarence Thomas - Survived with reputation damaged.
Roy Moore - Lost Election
Trump - Survived (but then he's Trump)
Kavenaugh - ??

And George Bush was attacked - I think the story was he and another pilot went Nude into a bar and got some drinks. And scandalized the lady bartender. Or something.

rcocean said...

"Has interim AZ senator weighed in yet?"

Kyle used to be in the Senate Leadership.

He'll march in step with McConnell.

n.n said...

She's one witness. The other witnesses (e.g. forensic evidence) have faded and degraded over decades.

rcocean said...

10-1 Sasse the Asse calls for more hearings.

rcocean said...

"the other witnesses (e.g. forensic evidence) have faded and degraded over decades."

its hard to collect evidence when you can't remember where or when the assault occurred.

Martha said...

at 5:00 Hagar asked:

Most of us commenting so far are men. How does her story strike the women? As described, is it plausible that it so traumatized her forever after that she is still in therapy? If so, should she not remember the details more clearly? And so on.

Neither I or my daughter-in-law (who incidentally clerked for Merrick Garland) find it plausible that the incident as described would traumatize a healthy normal 15 year old prep school girl.

There is so much to this story that smacks of recovered memory. In search for a cause of the grown woman’s psychosexual dysfunction, Mrs. Ford “remembered” her first pseudo sexual encounter that ended awkwardly. In 2012 she “remembers” the brown-haired 6 foot male teenager might have been named..... Kavanaugh. Yeah that’s who it was........memories.

Big Mike said...

Christine Blasey Ford is lying. She could be lying about the whole thing, or it could have actually happened more or less the way she says but with two (or is it four?) different teenagers. Or perhaps she lured him and Judge into the room and is getting even with them after all these years because they didn’t want to screw her on account of her being too drunk and too ugly.

Women lie. They can’t help themselves.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

re: shit-faced drunk
there's a pic of this poor #metoo, and she doesnt need to be drunk to be shit-faced

on a lighter note, from another commenter:

Her story is like the fish that keeps getting bigger...

First it was Anonymous source claims Kavanaugh and a woman were engaged in sexual misconduct as teenagers.

Then it was Attempted Drunken Sexual Assault...

Now she has come forward and says it was Attempted Rape and AND AND she feared for her life, that he was going to kill her! So Attempted Murder! Of course she said INADVERTENTLY so technically Brett should only be charged with ATTEMPTED MANSLAUGHTER...until she changes her story again and then they can up the charges to Premediated Attempted Murder with intent to kill with extreme prejudice with a deadly weapon...his enormous throbbing manpenis...or something...

Next she will claim he tried to stuff her in an oven because...

KAVANAUGH IS LITERALLY HITLER!

Dave Begley said...

She also alleged that she thought he was going to kill her. Attempted murder by laying on top of her. Allegedly.

Dave Begley said...

I quit the Democrat party after the Anita Hill lies. Many more will quit the Dem party after this circus is over.

I wonder if this woman has ever been in a lawsuit or testified in court. She's in for a shock.

Francisco D said...

Most academics want their name out there along with their research. Apparently Dr. Blasey Ford is an exception.

I have spent a lot of time looking for her vita on line, but it has been scrubbed, not by her but by the three academic institutions (Stanford, Palo Alto U. and Cal State-Fullerton) that she is reportedly affiliated with.

This thing was well planned out.

walter said...

Interesting therapeutic approach to wait until now to confront the accused.

rcocean said...

"she thought he was going to kill her"

I don't know about you, but people who try to kill me, get me a little upset.

Which is why i report them to authorities.

But then I'm a man. So, i don't understand women's complex feelings about attempted rape and murder.

Michael K said...

They could hold closed hearing before Thursday if too many GOP Senators (Flake) defect. He should be on the Court the first Monday in October.

That's what this is about.

Then I'd like hearings about DiFi's Chinese spy assistant.

n.n said...

You let them pull this shit with Roy Moore and now they're doing it again.

Yes. An incentive and reinforcement of a Democratic Pavlov response. They sincerely believe they can concoct a social scandal, and that people are so unsophisticated and cowed, so we will sacrifice scientific rigor, Constitutional due process, babies deemed unworthy or profitable, and go along to get along with journolistic lynching and summary judgments.

Big Mike said...

However I do accept that Christine Blasey Ford is in need of psychotherapy. Straight jacket sounds good for starters.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

i hope they play "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" at his swearing in.

HT said...

"she thought he was going to kill her"

____________________

Did you intentionally leave out the word "inadvertently?"

rcocean said...

So now, the entire process to confirm a Supreme Court Justice of the United States of America, will now grind to a halt so...

We can figure out what happened in HS between a 17 and 15 year old.

35 years ago.

Damn, the USA is clown country.

Arashi said...

I would remember someone who tried to kill me. I would not need to go to a therapist to recover the memory.

I too want DiFis' Chinese spy employee and her investigated.

HT said...

Ann the strain of misogyny these posts of yours brings out is particularly pure among your commenters. I think you've found the key to its release.

Michael K said...

This thing was well planned out.

Yes but they missed the "Rate my Professor" entry

Case closed. From Rate my Professor:

"Christine ford is the worst educator I have ever experienced. Avoid taking her class and avoid any interaction with this person. I feel like she has something wrong with her and I am surprised no one has caught this. Also avoid fullerton's MSW program as long as she is there."

CWJ said...

"I have spent a lot of time looking for her vita on line, but it has been scrubbed, not by her but by the three academic institutions (Stanford, Palo Alto U. and Cal State-Fullerton) that she is reportedly affiliated with."

Wow!!

Michael K said...

Trump hater and nut "HT" weights in.

CWJ said...

HT,

Really?

Arashi said...

Now why would the three institutions do this? What are they hiding? What are they afraid will become public?

Leland said...

Even if I believed every word of what she said; she believed then no rape occurred and does not describe one occurring now. So she's not describing a crime. So why is the FBI involved? The FBI doesn't background check hurt feelings.

Kavanaugh will be the next Supreme Court justice, and Trump will appoint the successor to RBG, who doesn't look like she'll make it to Oct 2019.

Finally, how is it that this stuff is important to Democrats; yet they gloss over the history of Ted Kennedy and Bob Menendez?

MayBee said...

I have no idea what happened, but what she describes doesn't sound so traumatic that it would affect her years later, especially to the extent she says it does.

Perhaps she too was drinking more than the one beer, if she doesn't know where she was or how she got there. Perhaps its one of those things that has grown in her mind until it's taken on a life of its own. I'm trying to think of all the various party incidents that took place in junior high and high school (to other people) and thinking what could be done with those stories if you wanted to destroy someone. I know someone who was appointed to a judgeship by Obama- or knew her all through junior high and high school. There are things about her I could write a letter about, but it seems so ridiculous, doesn't it? All these years and learning experiences later?

But it sounds like Ford is going through tough times and is looking for something to blame. As a woman who was once a high school girl, I just can't imagine being traumatized years later, even taking her at her word. Not that I necessarily do.

chickelit said...

Arashi asked: “Yeah - we need to hear how the Russians were behind the incident, how Trump engineered it all so we can get on with the impeachment!”

It seems like a clear-cut case of roamin’ hands and rushin’ fingers. So it’s actually a twofer: a joint Vatican and Russian effort to control women’s bodied.

Narayanan said...

First dispense / replace with the faux civility bullshit in Senate hearings with "I am going to sue you"

Amazing how Trump has turned on the light to show us the cockroaches.

n.n said...

its hard to collect evidence when you can't remember where or when the assault occurred

So, they walked to first base with an allegation, but with two outs and a legacy of fake truths, the next player up to bat has one strike, two strikes, ...

rcocean said...

How does it strike women?

Yeah, gosh ladies. What do you think when a women with absolutely no evidence, who can't tell you when or where it happened, says a man up for the SCOTUS tried to rape her when she was 15 and he was 17 - 35 FUCKING YEARS AGO. And she never told anyone, except her therapist - in 2012.

So, lets get the Ladies perspective. I guess she was too ashamed to talk about it. And then repressed it. And then was traumatized by it when she un- repressed it. And the reported in anonymously. But then decided to go public. Because... she now JUST HAS TO TALK ABOUT IT.

Yeah..feelings.

Flat Tire said...

Hagar said...
"Most of us commenting so far are men. How does her story strike the women? As described, is it plausible that it so traumatized her forever after that she is still in therapy? If so, should she not remember the details more clearly? And so on."

No. Speaking as a woman Ann's age, a "good girl' from a small midwestern town, if that traumatized her she never would have survived my junior high or high school. I call BS.

rcocean said...

The Republicans have caved.. as expected.

Setting up telephone calls with Kavenaugh and the "Accuser".

n.n said...

The Republicans have caved.. as expected.

This is why I stopped watching professional politics.

rcocean said...

Of course, this was back in the 1980s. The old Victorian days, especially in DC and various liberal towns and cities.

It was terrible back then. Women couldn't even vote!

Arashi said...

rcocean Link please

HT said...

There seems to be no agreement on the degree of seriousness about what is alleged to have happened.


One commenter describes the allegations as a rape attempt - "tried to rape her"

Another: "I have no idea what happened, but what she describes doesn't sound so traumatic that it would affect her years later, especially to the extent she says it does."

And finally, flat tire: "No. Speaking as a woman Ann's age, a "good girl' from a small midwestern town, if that traumatized her she never would have survived my junior high or high school."

As for the last, Mrs/Dr Ford is not Ann's age by a long shot, and though it's not nearly as sharp a difference with today's women, there is a very big difference in terms of tolerance of harassment and assault between those two particular generations.

Dave Begley said...

“I’m not ever telling anyone this. This is nothing, it didn’t happen, and he didn’t rape me.”

By her own admission, this is NOTHING.

MayBee said...

Interesting that by the time she mentions it, she is already afraid Kavanaugh will be on the Supreme Court someday.

buwaya said...

They went as low with Thomas, so why not this?
Its hardly a new approach.

The truth is that one of your political parties is effectively a criminal enterprise, and it has been so for decades. Only criminals need seek advancement in that corrupt society. There is no worthwhile human quality in it.

Andrew said...

Another idea: Kavanaugh should hold a press conference and demand that every Senator and Congressperson who has ever used a secret fund to defend against sexual harassment publicly announce themselves.

Maybe at that same press conference he could hand out printed copies of Juanita Broaddrick's description of her rape, and then ask why the Clinton's are still being treated like royalty.

F'g hypocrites.

The good news is, I do see on Twitter that at least a few reasonable Democrats (regular people, not politicians) are seeing through it all, and are disgusted with their party. Maybe this can give #Walkaway some more momentum.

cacimbo said...

As Art points out - this would have been handled in juvenile court.

Funny how the left is always demanding that employers should not even be able to ask job applicants about their criminal history but, now they want this alleged juvie misdemeanor to block a man from being hired.

rcocean said...

As long as they don't delay confirmation and keep in to phone calls, this should be OK. She's lie and accuse, Kavenaugh will defend. He said, she said.

Its all over. Hopefully.

It shouldn't be like this. Next nomination. Trump should tell Senate. NO more bullshit. 2 day hearing. No 1,000 questions. No 100,000 documents. Don't want the nominee, vote him/her down, and I'll keep sending them up till you approve one.

In other words, treat the Republican nominee like a Democrat.

HT said...

Good Lord! this is the most selectively copying and pasting group of comments yet, it seems, on Althouse!

Dave Begley said...

“I’m not ever telling anyone this. This is nothing, it didn’t happen, and he didn’t rape me.”

By her own admission, this is NOTHING.

9/16/18, 6:14 PM

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HT said...

From the Post:

And she told no one at the time what had happened to her. She was terrified, she said, that she would be in trouble if her parents realized she had been at a party where teenagers were drinking, and she worried they might figure it out even if she did not tell them.

“My biggest fear was, do I look like someone just attacked me?” she said. She said she recalled thinking: “I’m not ever telling anyone this. This is nothing, it didn’t happen, and he didn’t rape me.”

MayBee said...

As for the last, Mrs/Dr Ford is not Ann's age by a long shot, and though it's not nearly as sharp a difference with today's women, there is a very big difference in terms of tolerance of harassment and assault between those two particular generations.

No there isn't. Harassment, maybe, but that's actually very very new. The idea, for example, that two women watching Louis CK masturbate are victims who would be traumatized- that's very new. That's also political.

Let's imagine flipping this. A female SCOTUS nominee went into a bedroom as a drunken teenager, started taking off her clothes, and put her hand over the guy's mouth. Or another woman's mouth, for that matter. That wouldn't be brough up as disqualifying, do you think?

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Narayanan said...

Re Case closed. From Rate my Professor:
Would be interesting if rater is

Male ... misandry by Ford.

Female ... Perceptive

Michael K said...

More from the HT troll.

"This is nothing, it didn’t happen, and he didn’t rape me.”"

Therefore ?

rcocean said...

"rcocean Link please"

Its on the internet somewhere. I saw it in the Summer of 2008. I was using an Apple PC - that I borrowed from someone. Anyway I have friend who witnessed it too. But I don't know where he is.

And its true. Because I believe it.

MayBee said...

I'm not sure that's her on the Rate My Professor. That's from Cal State Fullerton.

cacimbo said...

I suspect Feinstein initially did not bring this out because she realizes this is embarrassing for Democrats. Hysteria over 38 year old accusation of drunken high school groping - even if unwelcome - make Democrats sound insane. However, the far left loons forced her hand. I am not a Feinstein fan - just think she is not insane.

HT said...

Yes it should be disqualifying if it were the same situation as what is alleged here.

Narayanan said...

Could Democrat priority change to ...
Impeach kavanaugh, then Trump.

rcocean said...

Trump's biggest error was his failure to take on the Senate.

They'll destroy his Presidency if he keeps listening to Turky Neck McConnell and his gang.

HT said...

suspect Feinstein initially did not bring this out because she realizes this is embarrassing for Democrats.

____________________

Did no one here hear about or read the reason Feinstein held on to it?

Chickering said...

Tried searching her name on Google with a specific date range of 09/01/2001 to 09/01/2018, but all that comes up is current news, even though the date range is displayed at the top of the results. WTF?

Gahrie said...

She isn’t sure. She doesn't remember, she does not remember some key details of the incident.. she believes and She also doesn’t recall but she's sure it was Kavanaugh.

No wonder she didn't want her name used. If you remember, Anita hill didn't want her name used at first either. This is complete bullshit, but exactly the type of thing that appeals to women.

MayBee said...

A few months ago, we were asked to hate Chris Hardwick because his girlfriend wrote an article claiming he mentally and sexually abused her. Turns out she cheated on him, he broke up, found someone else, and she begged him to come back.

We don't know what happens between two people, but we should be less ready to destroy people just because we disagree with them. We should be ashamed what we are doing to our SCOTUS nominees* in the name of abortion, really. We need to be better.

*You can say I'm siding with Kavanaugh here, but Feinstein didn't bring this up when she met with him privately, and she didn't bring it up when they were in a private session. She made it PUBLIC first and only.

Gahrie said...

Did no one here hear about or read the reason Feinstein held on to it?

You mean besides the fact that she knew it was complete and utter bullshit and in no way disqualifying? It's just sad that even Feinstein is now resorting to this despicable and desperate shit. She used to be one of the few adults in the Democratic Party.

Gahrie said...

You can say I'm siding with Kavanaugh here, but Feinstein didn't bring this up when she met with him privately, and she didn't bring it up when they were in a private session. She made it PUBLIC first and only.

It was also never brought up during his last Senate confirmation hearing for the Court of Appeals.

BertBaker said...

Get Kavanaugh sloppy drunk and see if he turns into an asshole.

MayBee said...

Chickering-weird, right? Almost like Google has helped her clean it up. Of course that's ridiculous!!

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Michael K

"Christine ford is the worst educator I have ever experienced. Avoid taking her class and avoid any interaction with this person. I feel like she has something wrong with her and I am surprised no one has caught this. Also avoid fullerton's MSW program as long as she is there."

Ford also scrubbed all her online accounts even her professional profile on Linked in.

oh really?

I think that disqualifies her on basic credibility.


CWJ said...

HT,

LOL. Since none of the other left of center regulars have arrived to vouch for this story, I assume you drew the short straw. Still, the night's young.

Again, even if true, so what! Show us how this has impaired the judge's subsequent jurisprudence. If you can't, then as unfortunate as it is, how is it disqualifying in light of his professional life.

Etienne said...

A late comment, but in my opinion the committee vote should proceed.

Up or down, and then move on.

I wouldn't vote for him because I think he is tainted by the Bush administration and the Pearl Harbor in Iraq, along with the CIA renditions.

The alleged rape is noise compared to the war crimes in Iraq. Americans think Iraq was a fair and just war, so it's all noise in the end.

Birkel said...

How much did Fusion GPS pay the people who 'found' this story?
After all, Di Chi Fi (Dianne "Chinese Spy" Feinstein) had a personal assistant raise $50 million to keep Fusion GPS' important work going.

Surely a few shekels were spread out to "find" this story.

Arashi said...

So when does this New Civil War we are in go to all out shooting with real guns and ammo?

Yancey Ward said...

There is nothing to hold a hearing to discuss. There is no chance you will ever get anything more than her story standing alone- if there were, it would have been included in the WaPo article. It will never be more than her story vs Kavanaugh's story, and even worse, if you grant that she is telling the truth, we are talking about an incident that is likely a singular event in Kavanaugh's life. And I think she is just flat out lying for a political cause.

If the Republicans cave on this, they will lose the Senate and House in a landslide in November. The only way to stop such unsupportable last minute accusations is to stop bending to them under media pressure. Hold the two votes- if enough from the Republican side vote no to can the nomination, so be it.

Etienne said...

It's a fact Kavanaugh was involved in the rape of Iraq, it's only alleged he attempted to rape a woman.

Rape is worse than attempted rape. There's enough evidence to vote no, with his Iraq war crimes.

Arashi said...

Yeah - we should have left Saddam Hussein in charge so he could keep throwing people into industrial shredders for 'fun'.

bbkingfish said...

Sen. Jeff Flake (R): "We (Judiciary Committee) can't vote until we hear more about this." The committee has 10 Ds and 11 Rs, so Flake's position seems significant.

Meanwhile, 65 other women have come forward to swear that Kavanaugh never raped them. Many other women, on the other hand, said, "No comment."

MayBee said...

Flake is trying to ruin Trump. Has been doing so for a few years now.

jim said...

"Has interim AZ senator weighed in yet?"

He has a lobbying business to go back to.

He'll march in step with McConnell.

buwaya said...

Anyone paying attention would have understood the nature of the Democratic party many years ago. This criminality is an intrinsic part of its existence, remarkably clear once one processes the mass of information about its leading lights, since the 1950s in totality, and in parts much earlier of course.

Or rather, it is a conglomerate of criminal organizations, quite sophisticated these days and no longer as geographically subdivided. Their roots are easy to find though.

The Kennedy machine was, after all, founded by a criminal mastermind. Entirely independently the Johnson machine was organized by another one. There were two such in California with the same name of Brown (Willie and Pat). There are dozens. Trace them back, one after another, and you will discover their origins.

Narayanan said...

Heavy.com
Ford has written about the cognitive affect of the September 11 terrorist attacks, too. She and her co-authors wrote, “[Our] findings suggest that there may be a range of traumatic experience most conducive to growth and they also highlight the important contributions of cognitive and coping variables to psychological thriving in short- and longer-term periods following traumatic experience.”

Francisco D said...

" Many other women, on the other hand, said, "No comment."

Please name names.

rhhardin said...

The proper high school etiquette is slowly slipping a respectful finger under the lady's bra, so she has time to accept or decline. She's the boss in the matter.

This leaves the lady's virtue intact, if she wants. After all, the guy started it.

rhhardin said...

The big risk is to the democratic process, not the well being of a crazy girlfriend. She can enjoy her crazy as long as it suits here on her own dime.

MayBee said...

I bet Merrick Garland wishes he could have been accused of sexual assault before being voted down for SCOTUS.

Narayanan said...

Does this go to the floor if it fails in committee?

Kavanaugh may fold ... is softie.

Will he survive to current judgeship?

Etienne said...
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MayBee said...

How can you fold? Who would ever allow themselves to be nominated for anything if Republicans won't support someone through a late-coming vague high sexual sexual fumblings allegation?

MayBee said...

vague high-school

Unknown said...

I'm going with "psychotherapy" for $200 Alex. Note that she only came to understand this as traumatic following therapy as an adult--ie her therapist talked her into it, just like girls on campus convinced a year later that they were raped.

for events 35 years ago when I was 15 I would only have recall of certain things. Other events not at all. Memory is like that. At my 20th high school reunion, it was already quite sketchy. Many people did not look at all familiar, others I remembered well. This girl does not remember anything useful about the night in question and had probably been drinking. She also sounds like she is prone to hysteria (exaggerated suffering from trivial events).

Etienne said...

The FBI (and other police agencies) should investigate and produce the date and time of the alleged attempted rape, the location of the alleged attempted rape, and the alleged four boys who were in the house during the alleged attempted rape.

Obviously there were other girls present, so they should also be interviewed, and facts gathered to find the house and the date.

All this should be done before the vote proceeds. The committee should hear from the alleged attempted rape victim in closed session.

We don't need nine Justices. We can wait. As a matter of fact, we probably only need three Justices.

stevew said...

"After so many years, Ford said she does not remember some key details of the incident. She said she believes it occurred in the summer of 1982... ...Ford said she does not remember how the gathering came together the night of the incident.... She also doesn’t recall who owned the house or how she got there..."

But she sure as shit remembers it was Kavanaugh and that he raped her - not rape, rape, but, you know, the traumatizing sort of awkward teenage sexual encounter. FFS.

-sw

Arashi said...

So does this mean any of us can accuse someone of something in the distant past, with no evidence whatsoever of it actually happening, and then demand they prove it did not happen? Maybe I was sleeping, but when did we become a banana republic?

Molly said...

(eaglebeak)

For a woman's, if not the woman's, point of view.

When I was 17 I was at parties with drunk 17-year-old boys. There were shenanigans and fumblings. There was no actual sex. No one got raped, no one was traumatized for life, and no one felt impelled to come forward a million years later to say she was groped by some kid--except Christine.

Absolutely no way to prove whether or not it happened--or if it happened, what IT was. But she tells us with a straight face (?) she thought she might get killed?

Utter, total twaddle.

Tommy Duncan said...

The purpose of this accusation is to provide an election advertisement that reads like this:

"Senator XYZ (R-Flyover) voted to place an accused sexual molester on our nation's high court. Call Senator XYZ's office and let him know we don't want rapists on the Supreme Court."

The Republicans are now damned if they vote for Kavanaugh because of the ad text above. And they are damned if they vote against him because they are abandoning Trump and their voting base.

This was a very clever play by the DNC. You can expect a full frontal attack by the media in support of the Democrats. This one will get very ugly.

MayBee said...

HT said...
Yes it should be disqualifying if it were the same situation as what is alleged here.


It wouldn't be, though, for a woman.
For one, it would be slut-shaming. Second, men aren't trained to be "traumatized" by such encounters. Women shouldn't be either. A man wouldn't even write a letter about such an encounter.

HT said...

Despite my earlier answer to you, if the allegation about K were true, I am not sure it would be disqualifying, especially absent other proven instances of similar assaults.

DanTheMan said...

>>First dispense / replace with the faux civility bullshit in Senate hearings with "I am going to sue you"

Exactly right.
Put her under the same microscope Kavenaugh has been under for months. Let's have a full investigation of her, and all her associations, finances, etc.

Tommy Duncan said...

Blogger Arashi said...

"Maybe I was sleeping, but when did we become a banana republic?"

Between 2008 and 2016.

jim said...
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buwaya said...

And I told you so, often enough.
There are ever fewer limits in your politics.
And its not going to improve until you fall into a real crisis.

Birkel said...

Let's be clear:

Di Chi Fi held the letter so that the scrubbing of social media and internet information could be performed before the name became public.

Fusion GPS is calling from inside the building.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Hey, the Dems fell for the Obama ploy twice. You can fool most of the people some of the time. The game is BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Get it people... ANY MEANS.

Michael K said...

There were two such in California with the same name of Brown (Willie and Pat).

Jerry's first campaign was run by criminals. I saw it.

The hospital where I practiced for 30 years was owned by real estate developer Richard O'Neill and a general partner named Louis Cella, who was imprisoned for Medicaid fraud.

Dr. Louis J. Cella Jr., an Orange County physician, hospital developer and political donor whose convictions on tax evasion and Medicare fraud charges in the late 1970s set off a cascade of corruption investigations that altered the county's political landscape, died Nov. 7 in Palm Springs after a long neurological illness. He was 87.

He and O'Neill, an heir to a real estate fortune, ran Jerry Brown's first campaign.

"Dick was just an amazing Orange County Democrat, because Orange County was not known as a bastion of very active Democrats," Bob Mulholland, a campaign advisor to the California Democratic Party, told The Times on Saturday. "He worked day and night on behalf of Democrats."

The hospital had its own printing shop. In 1972, when I was new on the staff, I discovered that the hospital was running out of forms and progress record pages. All the printing was going to Jerry Brown's campaign. The hospital administrator and some of the staff members were gay and the administrator George Ollendorf, also went to prison for fraud.

George used to brag about being in Jerry Brown's bed. Brown was as crooked as the rest.

George Ollendorf (once a defendant) was the administrator of the Mission Hospital. Initially, defendant Stephen Evans was an assistant administrator under Ollendorf at the Mission Hospital, and in early 1972 was assigned the task of supervising the printing operations. In May of 1973, Evans was transferred to the Mercy Hospital as administrator. Defendant Theodore Schiffman was Cella's "business manager or business consultant", and was involved with Cella in the financial operations of the hospitals.

In my book, I describe going to an expensive birthday party for Evens, thrown by Ollendorf, his lover, at his Irvine Cove home.

The house went to the lawyers.

O'Neill walked, as befits a big Democrat donor.

jim said...

"The proper high school etiquette ...".

Please, this was my specific high school environment, though 10 years earlier. Those rules don't apply very well when everyone is completely shitfaced. The story sounds perfectly plausible, but as others point out, a clear identification may be doubtful.

I kinda believe her, and I sure hope I didn't do anything like she describes: I don't remember doing anything like that but there are some nights from senior year that are limited to going to a party and waking up somewhere the next day.

Etienne said...

So does this mean any of us can accuse someone of something in the distant past, with no evidence whatsoever of it actually happening...

It happens every day. Don't you read Tabloids???

Etienne said...

Most kids in America now lose their virginity in the 7th and 8th grade.

It was different in the 20th Century. The kids today are laughing at us.

"One piece bathing suits, are you, like, serious?"

MeatPopscicle1234 said...

All I know, is that my fiancé, who is 43 years old and has 3 children, has told me that when she was growing up, she was molested and raped several times over the span of her teen and early-twenty something years by a couple of different bastards (one was a older teen boy who her father took in to live with them when his own parents kicked him out...)

And yet, even though I'm 99.9% certain these things are true, she has, aside from some early mistakes, like her first child out of wedlock, turned out to a pretty normal person... no need for therapy or 30 years of living in fear for multiple instances of sexual abuse... much less an alleged drunken encounter one night at a party that at most resulted in some drunken male teen (which if true, was probably not even Kavanaugh) roughly groping her...

These Democrat tactics are bullshit and someone needs to start paying for this type of crap... or it will just continue for every Republican / Conservative to ever seek political office.

BUMBLE BEE said...

We need much stricter laws to shield traumatized women from such shameful, degrading attacks as yours!
Plays so fine....

MayBee said...

Jim Harvey said...
"The proper high school etiquette ...".

Please, this was my specific high school environment, though 10 years earlier. Those rules don't apply very well when everyone is completely shitfaced. The story sounds perfectly plausible, but as others point out, a clear identification may be doubtful.

I kinda believe her, and I sure hope I didn't do anything like she describes: I don't remember doing anything like that but there are some nights from senior year that are limited to going to a party and waking up somewhere the next day.


Yeah, this is a great post.

I really just don't like this movement toward people having to be perfect (in certain ways) or we will ruin their lives. Having to always have been perfect, even in high school now. I believe we are a better country when we believe in redemption.

rehajm said...

If this works it’s all over.

Michael K said...

Many other women, on the other hand, said, "No comment."

Which women? Link ?

This sounds like more of your bullshit,.

Rigelsen said...

I agree with Martha’s take that this wreaks of Recovered Memory Syndrome. Something bad happened, and in 2012 she “remembers” she was assaulted. And tracing her members, she remembers a party.

“Oooh, must have been at that party that summer. Who was there?”

On the news: ...Judge Kavanaugh

“Oh right, Kavanaugh and Judge.”

Birkel said...

I have never heard a story such as this that involved a second (or perhaps second, third, and fourth!!) other guy in the room. Anybody else?

This feels a lot like the UVA hoax.

Rockport Conservative said...

Another woman weighing here. I find this highly suspicious. I have a biased opinion of people in the woman's field. While my husband was in graduate school and we lived in student apartments next to one of these people. It was a male one, he was so obnoxious to his wife, and taught his children to disrespect her, I have been suspicious of anyone in that field since then.

I know I'm biased, however, anyone, boy or girl, going through any of this would not forget exactly where and when it happened and exactly who was involved. I find this doesn't pass the smell test, even if I weren't biased.

Arashi said...

I don't think the allegations, even if true, require redemption.

Maybe we need to stop getting hysterical because we disagree with another person's politics and engaging in the type of shit we have all been party to for the last 20 years or so in the msm.

I was in college during the Watergate hearings, and I don't remember this kind of hysterical shit we are seeing these days. Of course we did not have 24/7 cable news with slots to fill and revenue to generate.

Maybe when we disagree, we make our disagreement know. Explain why we disagree. Explain why our position is better and try and convince the other side?

Nah - much better to scream and fling poo.

Etienne said...

Bottom line: Congress needs to know why one of the Senators sat on the letter for two months, and never notified the committee chairman.

The FBI should lead that investigation.

Arashi said...

We also need to know why the accuser, who discovered the events in 2012, decided to 'remain anonymous' and only came forward when DiFi spilled the beans in 2018.

Francisco D said...

"This one will get very ugly."

It has been ugly for some time now.

People are just starting to notice because the totalitarian Leftists do not need to disguise their actions very well.

Sebastian said...

"she does not remember how"

Nuff said.

grimson said...

Won't this boil down to what, if anything, Mark Judge recalls?

Arashi said...

Yes - their visceral hatred for Donald Trump has thrown all semblance of public discourse into the trash bin.

I mean I could see hating him because he did something to personally - like drove his car off the road and purposely ran over your dog - but what is a daily occurrence of total outrage for the last two years is fairly amazing.

Birkel said...

If Mark Judge is the alleged second boy in the room, he cannot recall a thing because he says no such situation ever happened and that it is a lie.

grimson,
When did you start beating your wife?

Henry said...

"She said that each person had one beer"

That's unexpected.

Arashi said...

I mean unless certain folks see The Donald as the harbinger of the end of their world - WTF is wrong with people.

Birkel said...

Jeff Flake and Bob Corker could both derail the Kavanaugh nomination.

I think, frankly, if this nomination gets voted down, that Republicans gain an additional two or three Senate seats.

I'll call for something like 7-8 pickups if they can burn such a solid, and centrist, candidate such as Kavanaugh.

Arashi said...

I don't remember any high school party where one beer was consumed by anybody. Drinking was FORBIDDEN and ILLEGAL, so pretty much consume as much as possible as quickly as possible, before the proceedings got broken up.

Mike Sylwester said...

Song lyrics by Randy Newman (1963 - )
-----

Mamma Told Me Not to Come

Will you have whiskey with your water?
Or sugar with your tea?

What are these crazy questions
That they're asking of me?
This is the craziest party
That there ever could be!

Don't turn on the light,
'Cause I don't want to see.

Mama told me not to come
Mama told me not to come
That ain't the way to have fun,
Son.

Open up the window.
Let some air into this room.
I think I'm almost choking from
The smell of stale perfume.

And that cigarette you're smoking
'Bout to scare me half to death.
Open up the window.
Let me catch my breath.

The radio is blasting.
Someone's beating on the door.
I'm looking at my girlfriend --
She's passed out on the floor!

-----
Sung by Three Dog Night

Leland said...

So I'm a bit confused. Did she receive psychotherapy that revealed this alleged event as something important, or did she study psychotherapy and wrote studies that alleged events like this are important? Either way, this is some ex-post facto BS.

Laslo Spatula said...

Perhaps #MeToo is to some women what the French resistance was to many of the French back then: years after the events everyone claims to be a hero.

I am Laslo.

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