.@jhader17 is the first pitcher in modern @MLB history (since 1900) to produce as many as 8 strikeouts in a game in fewer than 3.0 innings pitched. Courtesy: @EliasSports pic.twitter.com/DwQEesJr4N
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WARNING: This video contains filthy, nasty material that may not be suitable for all viewers. #Haderade™ #ThisIsMyCrew pic.twitter.com/t3HnZ1EHR8
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No matter what his girl friend Delilah says, don't let this dude cut off his hair.
Huh? Tom Seaver struck out 10 straight in one game. So this record as stated is bogus.
Cubs beat them 7 out of 8 this year, with five of the wins shutouts. In the last four game series, which the Cubs swept, their starting pitching ERA was 0.00. What to see some filthy, nasty material that may not be suitable for all viewers, look at their hitting.
In all of sports there's nothing more glorious than watching a pitcher with great stuff make a fool of every batter.
"Ken B said...
Huh? Tom Seaver struck out 10 straight in one game. So this record as stated is bogus."
No it's not. Read what they wrote, and then what you wrote. Apples and oranges.
Doing a lot of driving everyday now to visit a Rehab center ( not for me) , and the radio tells me Braves are starting to come around. For 15 years they had perfect pitching and so so hitting. Now the new cheap corporate owners have replaced them all with low pay youngsters. The result is a sudden murderer's row of child hitters, but with pitching that throws 8 walks in three innings.
Ken B,
Yeah, I had the same thought, but Seaver pitched more than 3 innings in that game. The description of the records seems to be this- what pitcher struck out the most batters in a game in which he pitched less than three innings, not what 3 inning stretch did a pitcher strike out the most batters.
Yes, the "record" is kind of contrived.
this record as stated is bogus
It's more accurate to say the record is kinda specialized. First, you have to pitch "fewer than 3.0 innings" . . .
This is the game now. Middle relievers and set up men all throw gas and are used a lot.
This couldn’t have happened until recently. None of the old timers like Cy Young and Christie Mathewson would try to strikeout every hitter they faced. Those guys were pitching over 400 innings a year.
Same with Spahn, Gibson, and Koufax. They didn’t pitch as many innings as the old timers, but they still pitched way more than today’s starters. Relief pitchers weren’t even a thing until the 1970s.
And let’s face it, there are not enough great hitters in today’s game. A lot of guys have to go for himeruns because they just aren’t good enough to face these pitchers. So they take more than four strikeouts for every homerun.
Albert Pujols has still never struck out more than 100 Times in a season. Votto cut his struckouts from 140 to 80 last year and walked 135 times. Trout has cut his strike outs down considerably. So has Betts.
The best hitters don’t strike out anywhere near as much as the “power hitters.”
@mccullough As someone who doesn't follow baseball, it's interesting to read stuff like that. So there's fewer hits happening due to more pitchers? Does that make the game more entertaining or less?
That's nice.
The Astros have 3 starters each with an ERA less than 2.00, a WHIP less than 1.0, and over 45 strike outs in over 36 innings over 6 starts. The worse starter in the 5 man rotation is a former Cy Young winner.
I'm thinking repeat.
"Baseball history" ... my first impression looking at the photo is that it was a chick.
I first read it as two innings and thought "so the catcher screwed up twice!?"
Earnest Prole said...
First, you have to pitch "fewer than 3.0 innings" . . .
I don't read it that way. You could continue pitching after you get those 8 strike-outs in less than three innings. You just couldn't have those 8 strike-outs happen in your second through fourth innings, for example.
I was going to say it implies that you start out hot, but that is not true. You could allow any number of walks, hits, or even home runs. It just means you are getting all of your outs via strike-outs, rather than ground-outs or pop flys.
"Huh? Tom Seaver struck out 10 straight in one game. So this record as stated is bogus."
Maybe "in a game in fewer than 3.0 innings pitched" means that was his entire appearance in that game. Seaver pitched more than 3 innings in that game.
It's a relief pitcher achievement. He only has a small part of a game in which to perform. What's the best he can possibly do?
He looks like a younger, shorter Randy Johnson.
Bringing the heat!
Phil 3:14: I first read it as two innings and thought "so the catcher screwed up twice!?"
In a minor league game, there were five strike-outs in a single half-inning:
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They also scored four runs. Both of the batters who reached on strike-outs did so on wild pitches, though, so the catcher didn't screw up at all.
In short clips i have seen Hader looks like a tough pitcher to face especially for left handed batters. Nothing spectacular speed wise ,97.38 mph fast ball, but his change of speed , 77.62 mph slider,is off the charts.
Saw a pitcher named Morton of the Astro make the Yankee big bats look silly last night .He had amazing movement and speed on his pitches. Then i look up his stats and this guy is 34 years old and has been an average pitcher in the majors for years!
The best a reliever can do in 3 innings is to do it with 9 pitches. This Hader kid had it going with mild heat, movement and high-low inside-out control. If you don't love baseball, that's just sad.
No Curious George. If there are 10 consecutive Ks then there were more than 8 in three innings pitched. There must in fact be a stretch of 2 2/3 innings with 8 strikeouts. That's why I said “as stated”. Yancey Ward and Althouse picked this up correctly.
The best a reliever can do in 3 innings is to do it with 9 pitches.
You might want to reconsider the math on strikeouts.
I'll take "Obscure Sports Statistical Records" for $200, Alec.
It's a relief pitcher achievement. He only has a small part of a game in which to perform. What's the best he can possibly do?
That makes it less impressive. Hader only faced each of the eight batters once.
Seaver pitched a complete nine innings. If his average pitch count was 135, he would have already thrown approximately 75-90 pitches by the sixth inning. After two outs in the sixth, he struck out the remaining 10 straight to finish the game. He had faced eight of the 10 in two or three previous at-bats, so they knew how hard he was throwing but couldn't catch up.
Hader still threw a great game. I don't know why I'm arguing about this.
What's the record for scratching your balls and spitting chewing tobacco in a three-inning appearance?
Hader's fine, but I'm not sure he could crack the starting five in Houston. The defending World Champion Houston Astros pitching staff is blowing the doors off this season:
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Early in the season, it can be tempting to turn into "on pace" guy. George Springer hit a home run in his first game, he must be on pace for more than 100 home runs! But even with the long season looming before them, the Astros pitching staff is doing some things the franchise has never seen before. Hell, they are doing things baseball has never seen before. And that isn't hyperbole.
Through 29 games, the Astros had 11 or more strikeouts by a single pitcher in seven games. That's an MLB record. More astonishing is the combination of strikeouts with ERA. Since they began tracking earned run average in 1913, only one team had two pitchers with ERAs of under two and at least 35 strikeouts through five appearances. This season, the Astros have three.
Justin Verlander (1.10, 39 K's)
Gerrit Cole (1.29, 49 K's)
Charlie Morton (1.86, 35 K's)
Tack on the outing Morton had against the Yankees on Monday night (two hits, one run, 10 strikeouts) and he has 45 strikeouts with a 1.72 ERA in six starts.
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I'm very optimistic that the Astros will be playing deep into October again this year.
I posted my 2:36pm comment before reading other comments. I didn't realize that Hader is a reliever; mea culpa.
But ditto what Leland & Otto said. Otto, Charlie Morton is very vocal about how he's found the home with the Astros that he's always needed to achieve his potential; his was one of the most remarkable stories of the 2017 season, and he seems even better so far this year. This group of players is just adorable, and they and their Houston fans are all crushing on each other in the afterglow of last year's championship on the heels of the hurricane.
I umpired a game in Savannah last Saturday in which the head coach was imploring these skinny kids to lift that front leg and uppercut SAVAGELY through the ball. They had cool uniforms, were very athletic for their age (13) but struck out repeatedly and threw the ball away.
That was Saturday. Sunday ended for them with their idiot coach telling me I was the absolute worst he had ever seen, After they had given up, I kid you not, 19 runs in one inning. After he was done, with all my gear on, I moseyed over to the next game to do the championship
Of the series. Cause of the 8 guys there that weekend, it was fat old me the directors wanted behind that plate.
Charlie Morton is one cool dude. I’m really happy he has succeeded.
Josh Hader was my #1 pick this year in our Strat-O-Matic baseball league's rookie and free agent draft back in March. We are a 16-team keeper league drafting from a pool of 21 MLB teams, and since I lost in our World Series, I drafted 15th in the first round. Needless to say, I'm loving what Hader has been doing so far in 2018, which has exceeded my wildest expectations. I suspected that he'd be really good based on how well he pitched as a reliever in the second half last year after the Brewers called him up and shifted him from starting to relieving, where his two plus pitches (fastball and slider) were better suited. If he can make the changeup a third plus pitch, then he probably ends up in the rotation at some point.
They’re saying “savage” a whole lot around ball parks this year.
baseball needs a 24 second clock.
SeanF said
"Both of the batters who reached on strike-outs did so on wild pitches"
So poor pitching and free swinging batters. Was this a Little League game?
I believe they’re using a 20 second clock this year. They did in spring training I know, maybe they’re not using it in the regular season and they’ve also instituted a pretty generous limit on mound visits.
Watching Hader pitch is a treat. He should certainly be an All Star this year.
All 8 were swinging strike 3's (including the fouled off bunt as a swing).
I had a perfecto in little league for 3 innings once and got hurt on the 9th out fielding a popup. Dopey 1st baseman ran into me.
I don't read it that way. You could continue pitching after you get those 8 strike-outs in less than three innings.
Tom Seaver's record ten strikeouts in a row were the final ten outs of the game, so clearly you need to pitch fewer than 3.0 innings to set this specific "record."
Charlie Morton was on the Phils in 2016 and lasted one week into the season when he pulled a leg muscle in the first week of the season and was out for the est of the year. He was paid I think more than $12MM that year and then he hooked with the Astros for the 2017 World Series season. Now he's like one of the Aces on a team with 4-5 Ace pitchers.
There were more strikeouts than hits in April in MLB.
The difference between the top players and the rest of the league is huge.
There are about 24 really good position players in MLB over the last three years. (Aaron Judge is very good but has only played one season so he doesn’t count yet).
Trout is the best. Altuve is the second best, but Betts is passing him up as we speak. Actually, the difference between Trout and Altuve is greater than the difference between Altuve and the 20th best position player.
These hitters need to start bunting. Most of these pitchers suck at fielding their positions. Justin Verlander is the worst. And he whines when guys bunt on him. Want to see better pitches. Learn how to bunt.
I'm at the game watching Verlander rack up 10Ks in 5 innings so far.
Baseball records are silly. "Most times an American League pitcher stole second base in a single week. In August."
"When you're hot, you're hot./When you're not you're not." (Jerry Reed says.) Stay "hot" Hader.
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