Althouse: Apparently Stormy Daniels has one more thing that she needs to tell us.

April 8, 2018

Apparently Stormy Daniels has one more thing that she needs to tell us.

Her lawyer says just wait.

A tease! Just tell us! Because if you don't, it looks like you're trying to get attention or money. And it seems like an admission that this whole stink bomb has fizzled.

104 comments:

gilbar said...: "it looks like you're trying to get attention or money"

LOOKS LIKE?; 4/8/18, 6:10 AM
Humperdink said...: "Because if you don't, it looks like you're trying to get attention or money."

Wowee, now that thought never crossed my mind.; 4/8/18, 6:17 AM
Sharc 65 said...: Big billboard on I-75 in Dayton OH: Stormy Daniels is coming to Diamond's gentlemen's club in August. It's about the attention or money -- this is her version of the speaker's circuit.; 4/8/18, 6:36 AM
Chuck said...: Althouse, I thought that skillfully teasing the news cycle on Twitter was on of the things that you and Scott Adams found so interesting and admirable about Donald Trump.

Anyway, you seem to have picked an odd story to feature. I think that it was at least as interesting to Michael Avenatti that Trump spoke to reporters on Air Force One and claimed to have had no knowledge of the payment by Michael Cohen to Stormy Daniels. No knowledge of the amount, or how it had been paid, or what the source of the funds were. How do you square that, with your general position that Trump was an unfaithful rascal but we all knew about it before the election and so we have all tacitly accepted it... Is Trump licensed to continue to lie about it, even when we get into campaign finance issues; legal ethics issues; tax issues, etc.?; 4/8/18, 6:38 AM
Equipment Maintenance said...: "Is Trump licensed to continue to lie about it, even when we get into campaign finance issues; legal ethics issues; tax issues, etc.?"
He's licensed to say whatever he wants; we don't care about this.; 4/8/18, 6:48 AM
Kevin said...: Shorter Chuck: But, but, TRUMP LIES!; 4/8/18, 6:57 AM
Danno said...: Chuck, you make a lousy scold. I am quite sure the good folks at Meadehouse really appreciate your attempts to critique the choice of topics for this blog, NOT.; 4/8/18, 6:58 AM
Chuck said...: "You'll find out."; 4/8/18, 6:59 AM
Kevin said...: Even Chuck’s post shows this isn’t about Stormy and her claims. She is merely an object used by the press to continue pushing an anti-Trump narrative.

Like David Hogg, she’s waking to find there was nothing for her in being used by the press.; 4/8/18, 7:04 AM
Kevin said...: What would you rather have Chuck?

A. Trump tell the complete truth as you see it in every encounter
B. A peacefully denuclearized North Korea

Because you can’t have both.; 4/8/18, 7:10 AM
gilbar said...: new poll:
Where would you rather have Chuck?

A. telling the complete truth as he see it in every encounter
B. IN A peacefully denuclearized North Korea; 4/8/18, 7:19 AM
Hagar said...: I think the power behind Stormy Daniels story is more specific than just "the press."; 4/8/18, 7:19 AM
Curious George said...: "Just tell us! Because if you don't, it looks like you're trying to get attention or money. And it seems like an admission that this whole stink bomb has fizzled."

To you. And me. But not to CNN. Or Chuck. And ARM.; 4/8/18, 7:35 AM
Fernandinande said...: "Apparently Stormy Daniels has one more thing that she needs to tell us."

If that "thing" is "Extinct monitor lizard had four eyes", I already heard it.; 4/8/18, 7:44 AM
the 4chan Guy who reads Althouse said...: The whole Stormy Daniels thing makes me think of porn stars. I mean, I know Stormy is a porn star, but I mean porn stars in general. Some of them get hot for awhile, but then people move on to fresher faces with different holes. So the porn star gets more desperate to keep her fan base happy, and where watching her just give a blow-job was once enough, now she is having to be more and more gonzo to attract attention.

But after you've done rough gang bangs and double anal, what is left for you to do? And when that happens, the fans who loved you as a fresh face with different holes start to turn away, because you're looking desperate and shit, which no one wants to look at, really. Because they imagined fucking you, but not fucking you in the ass while another dude's dick is already in there.

So, basically, the media has already done their double anal with Stormy, and they're moving on to fresh faces with different holes. It's like -- hey! Stormy! -- 60 Minutes was the money shot, okay? No one sticks around to watch porn after the money shot. I mean, that's where the video usually ends, for a reason.

And, while fucking the dude who became President is cool and all, a lot of porn fans probably like Trump, and see you as part of the ones trying to take him down. So you're pissing off half your fans, or maybe even two-thirds, I don't know the numbers but I bet a lot of the guys who voted for Trump watch porn. And not the hipster porn -- I'm talking old school, with blondes with big tits and not a lot of that tattoo shit.

So now when she's doing her strip club tour, maybe not as many people show up. And the media won't be there, either, and they didn't even shove money in your g-string in the first place. And the Hillary voters who do watch porn ain't coming by, because they like that organic free-range hipster porn shit. And the next chick on stage, you don't have to think politics when she's on, you can just watch her spread her ass cheeks and show her asshole and it doesn't have anything to do with, like, North Korea and shit.

I post my shit here.; 4/8/18, 7:53 AM
Birkel said...: Wait! Is it possible this hooker doesn't have a heart of gold.

Quelle surprise!; 4/8/18, 7:53 AM
rehajm said...: New iPhone?; 4/8/18, 7:54 AM
Whatever you say said...: Big billboard on I-75 in Dayton OH: Stormy Daniels is coming to Diamond's gentlemen's club in August. It's about the attention or money -- this is her version of the speaker's circuit.

She is coming to my city in Indiana as well. Imagine, the honor and prestige of stripping for a bunch of No-Where-Ville hicks in flyover country after being interviewed by Anderson Cooper for 60 Minutes. Anderson Cooper!; 4/8/18, 8:00 AM
Birkel said...: It would have been tacky if Charlie Rose had interviewed Stormy Daniels for 7 minutes.

But Anderson Cooper can interview her for 60 minutes without suffering outrage.; 4/8/18, 8:07 AM
Jay Vogt said...: There used to be a saying that, "inside every attorney is a real estate developer waiting to get out". Since the great recession, i suppose now it's the inner P. R. Agent that gets restless.; 4/8/18, 8:10 AM
rhhardin said...: What happens to kids who were bullies in high school? They become real estate developers.; 4/8/18, 8:32 AM
Tom said...: I love the comment: "He banged a porn star and wants a space army. I love this guy!"; 4/8/18, 8:33 AM
Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...: World ends tomorrow! Watch "News at 10:00" for details.; 4/8/18, 8:48 AM
Lucien said...: Ms. Daniels says she had sex with Mr. Trump, made a deal promising to shut up about it for $130K, and now is reneging on the deal. Besides the fact that she should thus pay back the money there’s nothing actionable here is there?; 4/8/18, 8:53 AM
Birkel said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/8/18, 8:55 AM
William said...: Many pornstars come from troubled backgrounds or have tangled personal relationships. Not Stormy. Everything I read about her is positive. She's remarkably smart and savvy and a treat to work with. She and her lawyer are motivated only by patriotism and a desire to get the truth out.......Do the media not understand that when they present such an unskeptical view of Stormy they are subverting not Trump but their own reputations as neutral observers.; 4/8/18, 8:59 AM
Michael K said...: Remember the story about the busload of lawyers going off the cliff with one empty seat?.

That seat was supposed to be Stormy's lawyer's.

Tragedy !

Earth to Chuck.

Since Trump was elected, Trump haters disguised as “conservatives” have joined the Left to call for the repeal of Second Amendment and restrictions on gun owners. They joined the Left in supporting the removal of historic statues. They joined the Left in accusing the president of coddling white supremacists and linking his staff to the alt-Right. They joined the Left in calling Trump a racist after allegedly referring to shithole countries as “shithole countries.” They joined the Left in bashing Evangelicals and mocking “thoughts and prayers.” They joined the Left in portraying Americans who want the flag and the anthem respected as demagogues and fake patriots. They joined the Left in demeaning Tea Party activists. They joined the Left in proclaiming they had discovered their “inner socialist” and “inner feminist.” They joined the Left in vilifying Trump voters as stupid and destroying the country.

They joined the Left in admitting they are products of white privilege. They joined the Left in hoping Democrats take control of Congress in November and impeach Trump. They joined the Left in abandoning the rule of law and Constitutional norms by pushing the destructive Trump-Russia conspiracy hoax and ignoring the malfeasance of the Obama administration’s Justice Department.

Sounds like our boy, chuck all right.; 4/8/18, 9:01 AM
bolivar di griz said...: Avenetti is a low rent con artist, is there even any proof she wee in lake tahoe at the times specified, do we remember how Paula Jones came to attention.; 4/8/18, 9:09 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: Dark Money Tom Steyer is all set to Impeach Trump over Stormy.; 4/8/18, 9:18 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: If we lose the Supreme Court to the radical left, say goodbye to free speech.; 4/8/18, 9:24 AM
Leland said...: You can pay Stormy Daniels to give all she's got, but apparently she can't give her all.; 4/8/18, 9:25 AM
John henry said...: One of the things I don't recall being discussed here is the lawyer's background:

For some reason my tablet won't let me cut and paste but read his Wikipedia bio.

1) he seems pretty high end. Where is a washed up hooker getting the money to pay him? Who is paying him? The one paying is the client.

2) he used to work for Rahm Emmanuel's political operation research firm.

Thanks to the no Agenda boyz for bringing this to my attention.

John Henry; 4/8/18, 9:26 AM
MadisonMan said...: The struggle to remain newsworthy is real!; 4/8/18, 9:40 AM
Achilles said...: If Stormy and Chuck play this right they can get Trump over 55% approval.

There is one whore milking the situation for money. There are a few dozen or so GOPe whores milking it for approval from their democrat masters. Milking in the porn sense.; 4/8/18, 9:43 AM
Michael K said...: he seems pretty high end. Where is a washed up hooker getting the money to pay him? Who is paying him? The one paying is the client.

The LA Times had a big puff piece on him yesterday. Somebody is behind this and it isn't Stormy or her $130k.; 4/8/18, 9:44 AM
Bay Area Guy said...: I am still outraged that Trump (or his factotum) paid $130,000 to have sex with the large-breasted, Stormy Daniels.

I'm thinking $33, dinner at the Waffle House and a night of vigorous bowling at the local alley should have sufficed.; 4/8/18, 9:48 AM
Bay Area Guy said...: I also think Stormy's fake boobies should be exempt from any Non-Disclosure Agreement, if you get my drift.; 4/8/18, 9:50 AM
FullMoon said...: They say someone approached her in parking lot. Mow they have info on who it was.
When story came out couple of weeks ago, I commented that if I was a slick lawyer, I would set up an "approach and threaten Stormy" situation in a parking lot with plenty of security cameras. Have the tapes, hold and release later.
The guy will be un-identifible, or a liar being paid to act as a Trump supporter.; 4/8/18, 10:11 AM
Curious George said...: "Bay Area Guy said...
I also think Stormy's fake boobies should be exempt from any Non-Disclosure Agreement, if you get my drift."

She was a porn actress. I'm sure you can find them if you try.; 4/8/18, 10:11 AM
Amadeus 48 said...: I hope Stormy appreciates everything that DJT has done for her career. Not many kids get a break like that.; 4/8/18, 10:45 AM
Chuck said...: Wow, Michael K; that Julie Kelly (never heard of her, incidentally) column sure was terrible.

She took a handful of columns by individuals and tried to make them into grand policy statements of all conservative Trump opponents. "They" say so-and-so. How many times in that one column did she generalize about "they"?

I agree with some of the Trump criticism that she linked; and disagree strongly with others.

Mostly, her column had absolutely nothing to do with me. She's right about one thing (and maybe only one thing) which is that I had a binary choice in November of 2916. And so I voted for Trump. I didn't have a binary choice in early 2016, and my choice(s) were never Trump at that time. And I am still pissed off about it. That's my right, as an American, to be pissed off about that.

But thanks to Julie Kelly, she actually linked to the anti-Trump columns that she found offensive, which only served to prove to me that I agreed with her a bit, disagreed with her mostly, and that more than anything, the anti-Trump conservatives whom she was criticizing as traitors were better thinkers and better writers than just about anybody at "American Greatness."

Talk about "appeasing the mob"! I have not written one word of support for the Left, or any Left-wing causes. I have no desire to appeal to the Left. Unless any/all criticism of Trump is automatically "support for the Left," which I think is Julie Kelly's thesis whether she admits it or not. I'm not buying that. Obviously.

Yes, John Kasich has made some distressingly soft comments on gun laws recently. But Donald Trump has made some distressingly soft comments on DACA/amnesty citizenship, and even more distressingly soft moves on allowing Medicare to use its monopoly power over the pharmaceutical industry. Etc., etc.

I got much more out of reading the links that Julie Kelly thought would help make her case, than any notion that Julie Kelly actually advocated.

Julie Kelly is the one who is appeasing the mob. Julie Kelly is effectively saying something very much like, You gotta support Trump! You are with us or against us! No debate; no criticism. Get behind the God Emperor! Don't confuse us with style points or pointy-headed arguments about character or real conservatism...; 4/8/18, 10:53 AM
JAORE said...: "... they are subverting not Trump but their own reputations as neutral observers."

Satire is not dead.

Plus, c'mon, not a single take on, "It was a dark and Stormy night.."; 4/8/18, 10:54 AM
Chuck said...: FullMoon said...
They say someone approached her in parking lot. Mow they have info on who it was.
When story came out couple of weeks ago, I commented that if I was a slick lawyer, I would set up an "approach and threaten Stormy" situation in a parking lot with plenty of security cameras. Have the tapes, hold and release later.
The guy will be un-identifible, or a liar being paid to act as a Trump supporter.

But it happened in 2011, by Stormy Daniels' own account. You think it was "set up" back then?

As usual, what might have been a story destined to go nowhere has been amplified by the Trump Administration's determination to deny first and ask questions later.

So Trump believes that the 2011 incident never happened:

https://thinkprogress.org/raj-shah-stormy-daniels-donald-trump-lying-las-vegas-parking-lot-threat-40e9168a8620/

Uh; okay. How Trump reached that conclusion will be the subject of more good questions for the White House. Maybe Melania has some info. Michael Cohen could help clear it up, I suppose. And at the same time explain how and why he made a $130,000 payment on behalf of Trump, that Trump never knew about.

It's all like the freaking "John Miller" tape.; 4/8/18, 11:00 AM
Mary Beth said...: She and her lawyer are motivated only by patriotism and a desire to get the truth out.

Well, pin a medal on 'em.; 4/8/18, 11:09 AM
Chuck said...: bolivar di griz said...
Avenetti is a low rent con artist, is there even any proof she wee in lake tahoe at the times specified, do we remember how Paula Jones came to attention.

This reminds me of that Monty Python sketch, where the "documentary" hosts were asking Stig O'Tracy about about the Piranha Brothers nailing his head to the floor and Stig denies it. "But the police have films of his actually nailing your heard to the floor..." Stig then replies, "Oh, well he did that, yeah..."

Stormy and the Donald at Tahoe. Oh, well there is that photograph, yeah...; 4/8/18, 11:15 AM
buwaya said...: Whats in it for her (and her publicists/lawyers) is that someone is paying for all this.

Its odd how much attention people pay to tactics when the interesting stuff is in the strategy. This is after all the old trick of bullfighting - that even the bulls figure out, which is why no bull that survives is ever fought again.

But people are not bulls apparently, experience teaches nothing.; 4/8/18, 11:19 AM
Birkel said...: Chuck sure spends a lot of time thinking about how another man uses his penis.

NTTAWWT.; 4/8/18, 11:24 AM
Carol said...: Come to think of it, the whole #metoo thing was supposed to culminate in massive bimbo eruptions last December, wasn't it? This is it??

And it's funny how media types proud of their own Me Wall pics keep showing that same photo of Trump and Daniels as if it meant something. It's an easy photo to get, if you happen to be in the room (and have huge boobs).; 4/8/18, 11:25 AM
Michael K said...: "Whats in it for her (and her publicists/lawyers) is that someone is paying for all this. "

Yes and chuck has two comments that contradict each other,

This is an interesting story in many ways. The sex part is the least of it.; 4/8/18, 11:51 AM
Chuck said...: Michael K said...
...

This is an interesting story in many ways. The sex part is the least of it.

I could not agree more!

The interesting parts:
Election law violations?
Professional ethical violations?
Perjury?
Civil liability?
Lies from White House staff?
Tax liability?
And so much more!; 4/8/18, 11:56 AM
chickelit said...: Sharc 65 said...Big billboard on I-75 in Dayton OH: Stormy Daniels is coming to Diamond's gentlemen's club in August. It's about the attention or money -- this is her version of the speaker's circuit.

Stormy should model and use those little plastic POTUS dildos in her show. The kind like the one Jill Abramson carries in her purse.

Oh wait, Daniels is trying to market to "gentlemen."

Never mind.; 4/8/18, 12:14 PM
chickelit said...: When attempted character assassination fails is when Stormy's people will get nasty. And yes, let's keep her at the center of this because a) she's not bad looking and, b) she will benefit when her handlers inevitably break the law.; 4/8/18, 12:19 PM
Michael K said...: "And so much more!"

I think chuck is about to spew some DNA.

I was referring to the people who are paying Stormy and her lawyer.

And who set up the LA Times puff piece about him.

The coup Felt pulled on Nixon was amateurish compared to this.; 4/8/18, 12:29 PM
Brian said...: Uh; okay. How Trump reached that conclusion will be the subject of more good questions for the White House. Maybe Melania has some info. Michael Cohen could help clear it up, I suppose. And at the same time explain how and why he made a $130,000 payment on behalf of Trump, that Trump never knew about.

This is a problem only in the fevered "gotcha" imaginations of CNN commentators.

Melania: I love my husband, we've been married for 13 years.
Cohen: I can't and won't discuss conversations with any of my clients. You should know that.
Trump: "I didn't know about the 130k."

As to how? Easy.

Trump: "Hey Mike, you know I've banged a lot of porn stars. We go way back, Mike. If anybody ever comes to you with a story that would be best covered under an NDA just handle it ok? If you need something from me feel free to call or we can take care of it later. You're a great lawyer Mike. Huuuge. Great Guy. Let's play golf sometime soon."

There, what do I win?

Why does Trump need to know about such a payment? All he cares about is that it's taken care of.; 4/8/18, 12:29 PM
Bay Area Guy said...: Release the IG Report!

Release the FISA warrant application!

Release Stormy Daniels' boobs from any and all Non-Disclosure Agreements!; 4/8/18, 12:34 PM
traditionalguy said...: Stormy career may be singing now. She covers a mean version of " There is a house in Lake Tahoe that's been the ruin of many a poor boy, and Lord I know that Trump's a one."

Thank God Trump never hired he for The Apprentice. She would have done an Amerosa on him by now.; 4/8/18, 12:35 PM
n.n said...: She's a witch hunting warlocks.; 4/8/18, 12:36 PM
n.n said...: The struggle to remain newsworthy is real!

... and a spectacle. A spectacular spectacle, that is money-worthy.; 4/8/18, 12:38 PM
FullMoon said...: But it happened in 2011, by Stormy Daniels' own account. You think it was "set up" back then?

Nope, I don't think about it at all. Did she say Trumps name was mentioned? Haven't really followed the whole thing.
Apparently the guy wasn't too intimidating because she is telling the story now, right?; 4/8/18, 12:39 PM
Brian said...: The interesting parts:
Again only in your fantasies...

Election law violations? If Mike paid for it there is no election law violation. He says he did. Good lawyers don't break the law when they can achieve the same outcome without breaking the law, even if it's an unorthodox solution.

Professional ethical violations? What violations? Again, think outside the box. Assume a level of trust between Trump and Cohen. Also assume that they had an understanding about how to handle issues like this. Is Trump going to accuse Cohen of violating his relationship as his attorney? Doubtful. What other person has standing to question his actions?

Perjury? Who's testified about anything? Who proved that testimony wrong? The fantasy of Trump having to testify on this is a fantasy. He'll default before that.

Civil liability? What liability? I suppose Stormy has a significant liability but I suspect she doesn't care. She's either judgement proof or figures someone else will pay up her damages.

Lies from White House staff? What are you referring to? That he didn't pay the money? Prove that he did! Their denials of the sex have been limited to mostly saying she says shes denied it. Lies about sex?

Tax liability? What tax liability? Did stormy not pay her taxes on her income? That's the only one that received anything of value in this transaction...; 4/8/18, 12:42 PM
Michael K said...: Ted Kennedy set the bar low and the left and the LLRs have been trying to make this sow's ear into a silk purse for a year,.; 4/8/18, 12:43 PM
Chuck said...: FullMoon said...
But it happened in 2011, by Stormy Daniels' own account. You think it was "set up" back then?

Nope, I don't think about it at all. Did she say Trumps name was mentioned? Haven't really followed the whole thing.
Apparently the guy wasn't too intimidating because she is telling the story now, right?

I already linked it above; "You'll find out."; 4/8/18, 1:02 PM
Chuck said...: Brian:

If Cohen paid off Stormy Daniels in order to protect the Trump Campaign from unwanted press, it's likely a violation (by about $127,500) of Michael Cohen's personal campaign donation limit.

If Cohen took out a home equity loan to pay a debt of Trump's, and didn't bill Trump for it, and it was all part of a regular (privileged) attorney-client relationship, that is freaky-weird and is pretty much guaranteed to land Cohen in front of his state bar association. At which time Cohen will have to answer in writing, and then perhaps answer questions.

As for perjury, nobody has testified yet. I am looking forward to that part when it happens! Because Trump depositions are always such a circus. As seen in the Trump's loser defamation case against Tim O'Brien, and Trump's disastrous deposition in the Trump University fraud case. Can't wait!

Civil liability. Paula Jones had what I thought was a crappy case. She got $850,000 (with at least $800k going to her lawyers) and the suspension of Bill Clinton's law license, which was richly deserved.

About the White House staff lying, that's a funny one. It's hard to figure out if anybody is lying, because it is hard to figure out what anybody is saying. I don't think anybody wants to issue a denial that Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels because that would be a lie. All the more reason to hammer away at that until there is a clear answer from Trump. Trump really, really doesn't want to supply that answer which is why I really, really want him to be forced to supply that answer.

Tax liability. Who paid? Did Trump pay? Did Cohen pay? Did Cohen pay, and get reimbursed by Trump? Did Trump claim the payment as a deductible expense? Did Cohen claim the payment as a deductible expense? What about David Dennison's taxes? What about Essential Consultants, LLC's taxes?

You know, if I was somebody who liked and respected and trusted Donald Trump personally, I'd view all of this as a distraction. But experience has made me someone who loathes and distrusts Trump, so there's that.; 4/8/18, 1:19 PM
Molly said...: Eaglebeak

Apparently Stormy's lawyer, Michael Avenatti, may not be all that high end--or at least, may have problems in his own past.

Seattle Times report:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/before-stormy-daniels-her-attorney-faced-allegations-of-dubious-business-dealings/

Also, for a fun moment, watch Meghan Kelly get out of her "all just girls here" incarnation for a moment and apply her legal training to eviscerating Avenatti

https://www.today.com/video/stormy-daniels-lawyer-calls-her-a-principled-woman-on-megyn-kelly-1202289731773; 4/8/18, 1:32 PM
bolivar di griz said...: That campaign finance argument didnt work against John Edwards and that was a Kong term relationship and funds were delivered on numerous instances, mind you Fred baron the courier was dead bunny mellon the donor wouldn't testify.

The Jones case happened because two Arkansas troopers told David brock, that he was obtaining women for Clinton, one named Paula objected and we were off to the races.; 4/8/18, 1:38 PM
Birkel said...: Chuck,

All of Chuck's concerns about Trump's penis can be answered simply.; 4/8/18, 1:41 PM
Comanche Voter said...: If Stormy can describe William Jefferson Clinton's penis, I might listen. Otherwise her background suggests that she has seen a lot of penises, and one more, more or less, won't make much difference.; 4/8/18, 1:48 PM
Chuck said...: bolivar di griz said...
That campaign finance argument didnt work against John Edwards and that was a Kong term relationship and funds were delivered on numerous instances, mind you Fred baron the courier was dead bunny mellon the donor wouldn't testify.

As you say, it damn near got Edwards convicted. I wish it had.

Here, there is a much closer proximity to the election; much better witnesses; much more involved artifice in attempting to conceal the payment; all in all, a much better case than the case that nearly convicted Edwards.; 4/8/18, 1:49 PM
Chuck said...: Comanche Voter said...
If Stormy can describe William Jefferson Clinton's penis...

She can't do that. But she can describe Trump's penis. She called it "his junk."; 4/8/18, 1:52 PM
bolivar di griz said...: There were four instances when money was delivered and they were keyed to primary dates.

Who put her in contact with miss dube who arranged this sideshow in the first place.; 4/8/18, 1:59 PM
Birkel said...: Chuck really cares about Trump's junk.; 4/8/18, 2:00 PM
Brian said...: Cohen "paid" off Stormy for his own reasons, not the campaign. He wasn't directed by the campaign to do so, and nobody's proved anything else. Your wishful thinking is just that. Wishful.

It wasn't a debt of Trump's it was a debt of Cohens. How was it a debt of Trump if he didn't know about it? Do laywer's not get to enter into agreements? He wasn't representing Stormy after all in any matters. There was no conflict.

Where is the "don't do freaky weird stuff" codicil in ethics regulations. Who has standing to bring him before the bar? I would think Cohen's response in writing would be an affidavit from his client saying he was a great lawyer. Or, maybe Cohen would just relinquish his law license? Live out his days on a Trump property? Sorry, you're not getting your wish here.

Cohen paid. There isn't any evidence otherwise. Prove a quid pro quo. Prove it without testimony from within attorney client privilege. You may not believe it, but that's because you aren't being rational.

So Trump's previous depositions are disastrous, so why do you think there will be a deposition in this matter? Trump University had real damages. What are Stormy's damages? Why not just default? There's a reason Stormy's lawyer wanted to get right to depositions, because he knows there won't be any discovery allowed under the normal process. Trump will just default. Use your head and not your heart. If wishes were horses we'd be covered in excrement.

Is the press going to be asking about Stormy come November? What about November of 2020? 2022? At some point the answer is going to get tiresome. I don't expect the answer will change. Why should it?

As to Tax liability. Cohen paid. He said he did, Trump said he did. Nobody knows what was deducted. Why would Trump have deducted something from his taxes he didn't know about? Even if he did know about it, why deduct this super secret payment? He's worth billions. He gives away 10k to lots of sob stories all the time. That came out in the campaign. He doesn't care about his taxes. He's not filing his own 1040. He doesn't even write the check, someone does that for him. He's a frickin billionaire!

You're not thinking logically. You're in good company of course since all of CNN is on the same page. But I question the smarts of people who skip steps in this process and don't see the possible defenses. They just assume that Trump will go down because they WANT Trump to go down.

Don't be an idiot, use your brains. There are plenty of reasons why what you want to happen won't.

I can see cases where Cohen has some liability, but only to Trump, and I don't think Trump has a care in the world. Stormy on the other hand has a lot of liability on paper at least.; 4/8/18, 2:19 PM
Brian said...: much better witnesses;

What witnesses? There's Stormy and Cohen that's it. One's a respected member of the bar, the other is a porn actress who's lied.

You're "wishing" witnesses now.; 4/8/18, 2:23 PM
bolivar di griz said...: Avanetta extorted mark Burnett for another project, the Hilton another Hollywood producer they all settled, now this thing begins with an nda, so cry havoc.; 4/8/18, 2:48 PM
Michael K said...: But experience has made me someone who loathes and distrusts Trump, so there's that.

Poor chuck. He desperately wants Trump to fail so he can say "I told you so!" as Nork missiles rain on LA and the stock market goes into permanent decline.

Chuck wants those millions of illegals raking his sand traps and washing his windows.

Be careful what you wish for, chuck.; 4/8/18, 2:52 PM
Birkel said...: I wonder if Chuck will mention how his hopes were dashed in the other lawsuits. You know, the ones he faithfully recited but have since been dropped. Or the attorneys have dropped the clients.

(And what does it say when Gloria Allred drops a female client? I believe it means the retainer has been exhausted and the investors have determined the lawsuit a losing political inveatment.)

Maybe thoughts of Trump's johnson encumber Chuck's memory.; 4/8/18, 2:55 PM
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Drago said...: LLR Chuck will never forgive Trump for not having done what Hillary/Putin/Brennan's hoax dossier said he did.

Nor can LLR Chuck forgive Trump for exposing Chuckies dem allies.

LOL

Its fantastic!; 4/8/18, 3:04 PM
Drago said...: Ive noticed that Chuck gets particularly irritated if he goes too long in-between attacking children and/or threatening women.

There's probably something going on there that ought to be looked into.

We should at least ramp up security at republican sporting events.; 4/8/18, 3:06 PM
bolivar di griz said...: Does he have a Youtube page?; 4/8/18, 3:22 PM
Darkisland said...: "What do you suppose those women are after but the same thing as the chaser—the desire to gain their own value from the number and fame of the men they conquer? Only it’s one step phonier, because the value they seek is not even in the actual fact, but in the impression on and the envy of other women."

-Francisco Domingo Carlos Andres Sebastian d'Anconia.

John Henry; 4/8/18, 4:11 PM
Paul said...: Stormy who?; 4/8/18, 4:19 PM
walter said...: Chuck said...if I was somebody who liked and respected and trusted Donald Trump personally, I'd view all of this as a distraction.
--
Solid criteria.
Hard to understand why Althouse doesn't seek you out before posting.; 4/8/18, 4:31 PM
Michael K said...: Does anyone else think that, if they had a real blockbuster, we would have seen it by now?; 4/8/18, 5:00 PM
Drago said...: "Hard to understand why Althouse doesn't seek you out before posting."

In Soviet Chuckistan, LLR always find you....; 4/8/18, 5:10 PM
Gk1 said...: Like the Michael Wolffe book I can see my lefty pals kind of disinterested and deflated because they can tell that the very people they want to care and abandon trump over this in flyover country aren't buying it or don't care. Also I don't think this is a tactic the left enjoys employing because it makes them feel like hypocrites. The more they drone on and on about a sexual encounter from 10 years ago the more silly they look to themselves and their friends.; 4/8/18, 5:22 PM
Brian said...: Does anyone else think that, if they had a real blockbuster, we would have seen it by now?

I'm in that camp. But tune in next week for CNN being breathless about how this is a real danger for Trump.

Even photo's I think would have leaked by now. Even if "hackers" stole them to leak them.

The plan for this entire story was to try and tarnish Trump with his base. It's obvious in the questions they ask politicians and pundits. They absolutely do not understand why Trump's base is willing to give him a pass.; 4/8/18, 5:55 PM
Michael K said...: The more they drone on and on about a sexual encounter from 10 years ago the more silly they look to themselves and their friends.

I don't think they have enough self awareness. Read Neil Gabler's defense of Teddy Kennedy in the NY Times. He is slamming the movie because there is "no proof."

Gabler is a hard leftist at my old alma mater. Professor of "Cinema" or something.; 4/8/18, 6:38 PM
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Gk1 said...: Michael K, I don't mean the lefties in the press. They have a job to do. I'm just talking about the rank and file, the folks in the teachers union and web design who were giggling amongst themselves when peegate broke over a year ago. If the subject ever drifts to the midwest they keep asking me why the evangelicals haven't abandoned trump by now and I ask them why didn't democrats abandon bill clinton and then they seemed depressed. They are aware enough hence they need to dig a new hole, this well is dry.; 4/8/18, 6:53 PM
chickelit said...: Breaking News: Stormy Daniels' Lawyer Releases Forensic Artist Sketch; 4/8/18, 6:53 PM
Trumpit said...: In an oblique reference to G-Man Robert Mueller, Stormy said that Trump hit her G-spot causing her to urinate all over him. Bet he enjoyed that. We will see if Mueller hits him with a 10-year sentence in the pen for obstruction of justice.; 4/8/18, 6:57 PM
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Be said...: "Stormy: You're Fired!"

"Fine. Just send my 1099 out on time, would you please?"; 4/8/18, 7:11 PM
Michael K said...: We will see if Mueller hits him with a 10-year sentence in the pen for obstruction of justice.

I think it about as likely that Mueller hits you with a ten year sentence,; 4/8/18, 7:42 PM
Birkel said...: Trumpit thinks thr G-spot causes urination?

M'kay.; 4/8/18, 7:45 PM
Michael K said...: I'm just talking about the rank and file, the folks in the teachers union and web design who were giggling amongst themselves when peegate broke over a year ago.

Oh, I agree.

We have a daughter who is very intelligent, speaks four languages, etc.

After the election, her mother asked her about Trump. "Oh, he'll be impeached !" This was before the inauguration.

I haven't asked if she knows the earth is round but that's unfair. She has been around the world.

She just doesn't know much Civics.; 4/8/18, 7:46 PM
Unknown said...: Not hand size again? We had a 3.5 earthquake a few days ago, and The Santa Cruz Island's Mass Wasting was impressive and a cruel reminder that islands can disappear below the sea in days if not hours, "I am Cnut stop that! Feed the volcano a few more virgins.. "burp." Those with progressive heart disease And Rinos should be running, not walking out the door, else there'll be none left to tell the story to their great grand children, though they may stop procreating waiting for the last recount.. "in our day,we were royalty and could wipe the dung off every election. Then along came the 2018 mass wasting."; 4/8/18, 8:35 PM
Michael K said...: Somebody has been praying to Saint Andres again. I swear it wasn't me..; 4/8/18, 9:05 PM
walter said...: "She has been around the world."
Sure..but has she reached the edge and looked down?; 4/8/18, 9:19 PM
Bay Area Guy said...: Trumpit sez:

"Trump hit her G-spot causing her to urinate all over him. Bet he enjoyed that."

Funny you should write this. I once had this hot girlfriend in college who went absolutely bezerk went I hit her G-spot. Screaming, writhing, slashing me with her fingernails, foaming at the mouth, just totally bonkers.

But then I learned it was just her epilepsy.

(Ba-da-bing!); 4/8/18, 9:30 PM
Michael K said...: Chicklit, how did you know ?

Stormy Daniels’s lawyer on Sunday shared a photo of Daniels and a forensic expert who is believed to be working with her to identify an individual who she claims threatened her over an alleged affair with President Trump.

Michael Avenatti tweeted the photo of Daniels alongside Lois Gibson, whom he touted as “the foremost forensic artist in the world.”

Who writes this stuff for them ?; 4/8/18, 9:51 PM
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iowan2 said...: "But it happened in 2011, by Stormy Daniels' own account. You think it was "set up" back then?"

In real life I am to assume that Daniels herself, she did not have legal representation back then, thought forward enough to get a copy of a store surveillance recording at the time it happened. How long do they keep those? 2 weeks? 2 months? ELEVEN YEARS?? But not forward thinking enough to file a real police report?

But all of this is meaningless as has been pointed out, repeatedly. This is all a great distraction. Too much detail is the core of spotting a lie. President Trumps team is smart enough to not get sucked into impeaching any of the claimed facts. To start to pull on those threads, give the story some patina of respectability. I have always thought this is nothing because there is ZERO wrong doing. Except by Daniels violating contract that has been challenged and reinforced by binding arbitration, yet another thing that Daniels, represented by legal counsel agreed to.

The lawyer at risk, is the one I want to know how he is getting paid and by whom? There is no potential for him to hit a big payday, even if he got everything he wanted.

TDS Strikes the left and GOPe hard.; 4/9/18, 6:21 AM