I am considering a VETO of the Omnibus Spending Bill based on the fact that the 800,000 plus DACA recipients have been totally abandoned by the Democrats (not even mentioned in Bill) and the BORDER WALL, which is desperately needed for our National Defense, is not fully funded.
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Why is President Trump threatening to veto a $1.3 trillion spending bill?
Not because of too much spending....
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What is Howards desiderata?
Or for that matter, Chucks?
Bimbo has terminal battered woman's syndrome
buwaya: Vikings spill guts, not the other way around. Someone has to be cold blooded
buwaya said...
I am always right,
that does not make me happy.
Maybe you should examine some of the assumptions that you make about life.
“Bimbo has terminal battered woman's syndrome.”
Lord knows I’ve tried to help her break free, maybe some women just like the beating.
Bay Area Guy: Now, although the "Ominbus" Budget undeniably sucks, in fairness to Trump, I don't recall that he ever campaigned as a deficit hawk (i.e., cutting spending.)
No, but he didn't campaign as a Dem/GOPe cocksucker on spending, either. I had no expectation that a Trump administration would do diddly about uncontrolled spending, but this sure looks like an unforced roll-over to the DC borg to me.
Inga: And you people voted for Trump.
Yes I did, and why on earth would I regret having done so? Not putting my trust in princes, my trust cannot be betrayed. With Trump we're in no way worse off than we would have been with anyone else (sorry, you Cruz lovers, but no), and I've been quite pleased with other acts in the play.
You (and some others here), have a very childish attitude toward politics. The rough beast slouches onward, princes fagging-out on spending bills or no. But I'm one of the one or two historically strict-sense conservatives, not local/current-sense conservatives on this site, so I would see it that way.
“I am always right...”
Very Trumpish!
“Yes I did, and why on earth would I regret having done so?”
Sadly, here’s another woman who seems to get off from the beating she gets from her man.
@Angle-Dyne, Angelic Buzzard,
No, but he didn't campaign as a Dem/GOPe cocksucker on spending, either. I had no expectation that a Trump administration would do diddly about uncontrolled spending, but this sure looks like an unforced roll-over to the DC borg to me.
And you would be correct. Hey, sometimes you have to suck a few cocks to find a prince!
Inga - Go bake me a cake.
“Inga - Go bake me a cake.”
Bake your own damn cake. Cake mixes are on sale. Go for it, even a 12 year old can do it.
@ Angle-Dyne
Inga: "And you people voted for Trump."
Yes I did, and why on earth would I regret having done so? Not putting my trust in princes, my trust cannot be betrayed. With Trump we're in no way worse off than we would have been with anyone else (sorry, you Cruz lovers, but no), and I've been quite pleased with other acts in the play.
You (and some others here), have a very childish attitude toward politics.
Worth a nice big bolded repeat.
"Vikings spill guts, not the other way around. Someone has to be cold blooded"
That is not cold blood Howard, but skulking.
I call you to the ox-hide, where three roads meet.
Chewing on my shield.
buwaya: I'm not smart enough to pick up what your putting down... but chew away
Bimbo,
I recall when you went from blog to blog ragging and hating on Trump, until he won the nomination. Then overnight you became one of the most vociferous of the Trump sycophants. It’s not what a mature woman does. You’re childishly, embarrasingly partisan.
Howard is niðingr, not worthy of Holmgang.
Are you guys gonna start quoting Amon Amarth lyrics?
"I guess being a patriotic conservative, means you have to take it up the ass every now and then."
Get used to it, and use a lot of rube, er, lube. "Patriotic conservative" may not be an oxymoron as such, but Republicans are morons.
The director of homeland security did the bureaucrat-speak favorite, accent on the prepositions.
English requires a regular accent pattern happen; if you're actually saying something, it's on the important words. If you're not saying something, you put the accent on the prepositions, following the regular accent rule but not knowing what to accent.
Inga - I defend Trump when he's being maligned by liars, like you.
I'm listening to the speech in the process of editing the second Rush hour into what was recorded from the affiliate, which broke in with their own coverage.
Trump drones on and on. Rush fortunately inserts ummh groans at key points.
You are not worthy or unworthy of Holmgang.
You can default Howard, but if so, I think the rules say I get to claim your women.
Yes- I thought Trump was going to hand it to Hillary for all sorts of reasons and I preferred other candidates. This is nothing new, Inga.
Your childishness is on display with your giddy glee over Trump's passage of the Democrat spending bill. We all note you have nothing to say about the bill itself.
It might have been a good time to make a point with a veto, but if you check the vote totals you'll see that a veto would have almost certainly been overridden.
The Democrat "nays" would not have passed up the chance to flip their vote and deliver a defeat to Trump and I see little reason to believe that enough Republican "yeas" would have flipped simply to offer support to the President..
The headlines would have touted "a humiliating defeat" for Trump for weeks.
A budget. Unqualified progress, but progress nonetheless.
oh wait - here it comes.. Trump is Putin's puppet and this proves it once and for all!
Nothing was said about an exchange of women with North Korea, the best Trump idea I've heard.
@Trumpit,
Me: "I guess being a patriotic conservative, means you have to take it up the ass every now and then."
Trumpit: "Get used to it, and use a lot of rube, er, lube. "Patriotic conservative" may not be an oxymoron as such, but Republicans are morons."
Ok, I'll make you a deal. I'll get used to it, up and until Justice Anthony Kennedy retires, and Trump appoints say, Willam Pryor to SCOTUS, confirmed 51-49.
And, then, you can re-acquaint yourself with the position.
It's like the Yin and Yang of life......
buwaya: But this is not the case in the US. The radical consensus is pretty much along the lines (and paraphrasing the implications) - kill all these people and wipe out their culture. And then... nothing. That's it.
I see me and mine as being somewhat analogous to late-Imperial provincial Gallo-Romans - barbarians once ourselves, assimilated to a once-superior civilization, that we recognized as superior, not Romans but patriots of that older Rome, now being fucked over by the degenerate PTBs back in the imperial capital, via devaluation of both currency and citizenship, for the sake of more expedient and remunerative relations with more recent waves of barbarians. Which in later stages included outright dispossession and transfer of property to the PTBs' new barbarian BFFs. Plus ça change, I guess.
Inga said...
You’re childishly, embarrasingly partisan.
Partisanship is easily identifiable by noting different conclusions from less evidence. Like this:
“I am always right...”
Very Trumpish!
While the quote tracks much better to Obama you don't associate anything negative with him.
“I think that I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters. I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I’ll tell you right now that I’m gonna think I’m a better political director than my political director.”
So it's pretty amusing when you call out others on partisanship.
Not worthy to PARTICIPATE in Holmgang.
A warrior's greatness is judged by the greatest of the enemies he slays.
Try to claim my women. Go ahead and try. Your reward will be seven feet of American ground, or as much more as you may be taller than other men.
Bimbo, have a cookie, there, there now, have some milk too. I know you had a great dissapointment today, show me on the dolly where Trump hammered you.
Blogger Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
Trump just hammered in his own nail.
3/23/18, 12:56 PM
You are not worthy or unworthy of Holmgang.
You can default Howard, but if so, I think the rules say I get to claim your women.
Perhaps he can pay a weregild.
How would that statement make me a sycophant? If anyone is a sycophant it would be you, Inga.
Inga isn't bothered by deficit spending for chuck Schumer. Nope. Nothing to say about it.
Howard,
Regarding your women,
If Inga is yours, you can keep her.
Inga doens't have one thing to say about ALL THE DEMOCRATS who just voted for the massive spending bill.
Not one word.
Shall we run down the list of Democrats who voted for it?
Inga and Howard voted for Jill. LOL.
“Howard,
Regarding your women,
If Inga is yours, you can keep her.”
I have a sneaking suspicion that Howard might just be enough man to handle a free spirited strong willed woman. Not like some men...
Inga is a Viking name...ya know.
Inga: "Sadly, here’s another woman who seems to get off from the beating she gets from her man."
What a vile, ugly piece of work you are. I can't recall a single positive argument you've ever made on this site for any progressive Democrat position. Its all insult and gloating, a smug self-satisfaction with your own virtue. The very embodiment of Arendt's banality of evil.
Sorry to those who feel disappointment with this bill. The reality staring the country in the face has been and will continue to be that Trump has zero genuine guiding principles or beliefs. None politically, and none morally. He serves himself and the immediate moment only. It's a foolish gamble to hope that a sociopath's interests will align with yours often enough to make looking the other way and endlessly chirping about the press and Bill Clinton worth your while or frankly worth anything.
“I can't recall a single positive argument you've ever made on this site for any progressive Democrat position.”
I no longer waste time arguing politics with you Trumpists. It’s much more fun poking you with sticks.
He signed it. He can go to Hell. Fuck it.
While I would like to think that there is a "long game" somewhere in this move today, I basically have to agree with the above sentiment.
We have been done done done with the GOP in general for some time now and do/did have hopes that a different approach would break the same old same old screw the voters attitude in the DC Swamp. Now that it looks like Trump has rolled over like a whipped puppy in order to get a big increase in military spending and to Hell with the rest of the agenda, to Hell with Immigration Control, to Hell with the voters who put their faith in a change....well all I can say is RIP GOP. Adios.
This November will be the first time in 30 years that I have decided not to vote. What is the point?
Actually, since I live in California, there IS no point in voting.
The Swamp has won. I'm old. I can take it. Sorry kids and grandkids. You are on your own.
DBQ, you always were very level headed.
"I no longer waste time arguing politics with you "
But you never have.
Zero policy argument.
I thought the whole premise of a pussy-grabbin’, porn-star bangin’ president was that he would stand up to the Republicrats. If he’s not going to do that then why not hand him over to Mueller in exchange for Pence?
Rabel said...
It might have been a good time to make a point with a veto, but if you check the vote totals you'll see that a veto would have almost certainly been overridden.
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Yup, I agree.
In the best of all possible political worlds, Trump would have actually vetoed the bill. But that's not the world we're living in, esp. in the Senate. Yes, Republicans have a majority, but it's a bare majority and not even close to a controlling majority.
If those vote totals given above are accurate, then the Senate approved the bill by slightly over 66%, and the House by 74%. Trump's overarching political premise, so far as I'm aware, is that legislative power in this country should rest with the People, exercised through their elected representatives. Okay, according to that premise, the People have spoken. Loudly.
A pointless Trump veto of a massive, multi-issue bill like this would achieve nothing, and the political costs would be great. You think the Dems would what? reconsider their spending demands & reduce them? Hahahahah -- they'd double down and they and their friends in the media would have a field day of political posturing. And we'd still need a budget -- you think Ryan and McConnell could get a better deal after a Trump veto? If yes, explain why. If no, then why do it except as a useless gesture?
Don't blame Trump for a failure to exercise a veto: blame the weakling House & Senate Republicans in for their failure to measure up to their own principles.
“But you never have.
Zero policy argument.”
Wrong. I’ve argued Democratic policies for years here.
1.Abortion Rights
2. The need for a Social Safety Net
3. Making the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes
4. Supporting working families/ a livable wage.
5. Ending systemic racism
6. Immigration Reform/ immigration rights
7. Supporting a clean energy agenda
8.Voter Rights
Etc.Etc.Etc.
I stopped discussing these things with Trumpists, because they no longer seemed to be in their right minds.
And you threw your vote away?
Keep it up.
It's a foolish gamble to hope that a sociopath's interests will align with yours often enough to make looking the other way and endlessly chirping about the press and Bill Clinton worth your while or frankly worth anything.
Since the alternative was a worse bill than this plus many other bad bills Trump isn't even pursuing this conclusion is absurd.
Trump has zero genuine guiding principles or beliefs.
This is the difference between someone driving dangerously and someone intentionally trying to run you over. Every moment you're not in mortal danger is an improvement. Comparing to perfection isn't relevant.
After all, Trump has Ryan and McConnell to contend with
It's just this war and that lying son of a bitch Johnson.
If Trump had exerted the slightest effort to tell Ryan and McConnell the kind of bill he would and would not sign, he would have ensured the Republican leadership was constrained by America’s values and not Washington’s.
Trump supporters:
Keep your cool. It’s a mistake to dwell too much on this setback. There will be other budget bills to pass in the next three years. Don’t allow the NeverTrumpers’ gloating to control your vote. I too am disappointed that the bill was passed and signed as written without proper deference to the Trump agenda but legislative failures are to be expected early on.
After all, Trump has Ryan and McConnell to contend with, both who are prone to pulling down their panties and bending over every time the Democrats get a hard-on. It’ll take more than a year in office for Trump to neutralized those two political fakes.
In the meantime Trump has accomplished many things without their help and against their open opposition. Be grateful for that and the fact that Crooked Hillary lost the election.
"Wrong. I’ve argued Democratic policies for years here."
You have cut band pasted libraries of stuff, but the dialectic you have never gotten into.
That is assertion, rebuttal, counter-argument, etc. That is, the correct procedure of debate.
"If Trump had exerted the slightest effort to tell Ryan and McConnell the kind of bill he would and would not sign, he would have ensured the Republican leadership was constrained by America’s values and not Washington’s."
I don't see how this would have changed anything. Ryan and McConnell are happy with the thing as it stands. In fact they have given in many times to the desires of the previous administration, if you recall. The inherent propensities of these two and their cliques is well known.
You have many thousands of powerful enemies, including a great number supposedly on your own side.
“You have cut band pasted libraries of stuff, but the dialectic you have never gotten into.
That is assertion, rebuttal, counter-argument, etc. That is, the correct procedure of debate.”
We aren’t in a debate class sweetie. I use visuals and the written word to bolster MY opinions. I’ve asserted, rebutted, counter argued and kicked some ass here over the years. It’s no longer worth the effort. I’ve been here since 2011, how about you?
Actually, since I live in California, there IS no point in voting.
Normally I would agree with this. However it looks like this year things could be different. Democrats are so dominant in California that in 2016 many races had no Republican on the ballot in November because of our open primaries. (Two Democrats finished first and second in the primary and thus on the ballot in Nov.)
Because of this, many races have multiple Democrats running for it..sometimes half a dozen. This means the Democratic vote will be split. This should allow at least one Republican on the Nov ballot and in some cases perhaps both.
"If he’s not going to do that then why not hand him over to Mueller in exchange for Pence?"
Everything else aside,it is because from that moment Pence will have absolutely no power. He will be defied by everyone as he will risk immediate removal for crossing anyone.
"I’ve been here since 2011, how about you?"
About 2010 as a lurker, going back to the Wisconsin election controversies.
"We aren’t in a debate class sweetie."
Life is either a debate or a knife-fight. Nothing at all in between.
"And you people voted for Trump."
You voted for Jill Stein.
STFD and STFU.
“STFD and STFU.”
LOL. Don’t be mad at me for your own poor choices, idiot.
If Trump had exerted the slightest effort to tell Ryan and McConnell the kind of bill he would and would not sign, he would have ensured the Republican leadership was constrained by America’s values and not Washington’s.
Actually, none of us know what took place behind the scenes. But from his very public tweets alone we know what Trump wanted – and most of it, aside from the military funding, was ignored by Ryan and McConnell. Trump can “tell” Ryan and McConnell what to do until he is blue in the face but he has very little control of their political perfidy at this point. That’s not Trump’s fault.
Trump’s first duty as POTUS is to keep the nation as safe as possible. He can’t do that with an under-funded military. Trump had no choice – he had to sign this fucked-up bill to keep the armed forces properly funded. There will be other budget battles in this war against the Trump agenda. One battle lost doesn’t mean the war is lost.
I’ve asserted, rebutted, counter argued and kicked some ass here over the years.
You've repeated talking points insufficient to convince moderately credulous children. But at least you're a legend in your own mind.
The pièce de résistance for this week.
“Shares of banks and technology firms dragged markets sharply lower Friday, punctuating the worst week for major U.S. stock indexes in more than two years.”
WSJ
Wrong. I’ve argued Democratic policies for years here.
That's a fine list of platitudes and buzzwords. You could have a career writing corporate mission and values statements.
"There will be other budget battles in this war against the Trump agenda. One battle lost doesn’t mean the war is lost."
This is a critical one. This means that there is now a ad-hoc cross-party coalition capable of overriding his veto, given that the components of it are suitably rewarded.
There was always a danger of this given the enemies Trump has chosen to fight, which own much of the Republican party as well as the Democrats.
“You've repeated talking points insufficient to convince moderately credulous children. But at least you're a legend in your own mind.”
Too bad your whiny bitchy passive agressive comments mean nothing to me, just makes me see you as a little wimpy man whose teeny penis is tucked in between his legs.
Inga is her own woman, that's what I like about her. I don't own or possess the women in my life... that concept is probably hard for a cuck to understand.
PS, I voted for Hillary, Obamby twice, GWB twice and Perot twice before that.
" I don't own or possess the women in my life... that concept is probably hard for a cuck to understand."
But you called yourself a Viking - that was the ancient Norse way you know.
Or are you no longer a Viking?
Note, what's #1 on Inga's list?
Killing babies.
What a ghoul.
Ok buwaya, you win the war of words. Congratulations, now you can pick the splinters out of your mouth.
Kirk would rather force women to give birth. Tell us Kirk, how will you go about doing that? Abortion Police?
"Tell us Kirk, how will you go about doing that? Abortion Police?"
The Inquisition is my preferred method.
Failing that, Irish or Philippine laws work quite well.
robother: What a vile, ugly piece of work you are. I can't recall a single positive argument you've ever made on this site for any progressive Democrat position. Its all insult and gloating, a smug self-satisfaction with your own virtue.
Inga isn't a vile, ugly piece of work. She's a silly and ignorant woman, and the insult, gloating, and smug self-satisfaction are a product of the silliness and ignorance, not any deeper malice. While it's unfortunate when silly people involve themselves in politics, I sincerely hope that she and hers, like the rest of us, will be spared the worst consequences of a swamp invictus, whose victory she so heedlessly cheers on.
No Inga, cucks like Kirk only want safe medical abortion available to the mistresses and daughters of rich men, like his hero Trump.
"Wrong. I’ve argued Democratic policies for years here.
1.Abortion Rights
2. The need for a Social Safety Net
3. Making the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes
4. Supporting working families/ a livable wage.
5. Ending systemic racism
6. Immigration Reform/ immigration rights
7. Supporting a clean energy agenda
8.Voter Rights"
That is such a target rich environment for someone like me I hardly know where to begin. I would proceed to dismantle most of these these point by point with very detailed and link-reference analyses and data with graphs (wish we could post images on this blog) but I would be hijacking Prof. Althouse's blog for the rest of the night and it would not be fair to others who want to comment. But briefly: we already have an extensive social safety net, in fact, that is what is driving our country toward economic calamity; the wealthy already pay their "fair share" of taxes, maybe even more than their fair share; jobs at a "living wage" are readily available for those who are have at least a high-school diploma and are honest, reliable, and crime and drug free; the US is one of the least racist countries in the world and if you don't believe that you haven't traveled much; there are solutions to our broken immigration system but the Democrats don't want those implemented because they are desperate to turn all the illegal aliens and poor legal immigrants into reliable voters for socialism; "clean energy" is one of the biggest scams in history; and we need to tighten up our voter registration system to ensure that only citizens can register to vote, that people who do vote are who they say they are, and we ensure that once they have voted they don't vote in the same election again and again.
This is a critical one. This means that there is now a ad-hoc cross-party coalition capable of overriding his veto, given that the components of it are suitably rewarded.
Critical? It’s one legislative battle among many more to come. I’ll admit that it was critical in the sense that our military preparedness is ALWAYS critical but this legislative defeat is merely one battle among many more to come.
Also, I’m not sure that a Trump veto would have been overridden. I believe Trump probably signed the bill because he didn’t want another government shutdown at this point – not because the assholes in Congress would have overridden his veto. Remember that there was a deadline to prevent a government shutdown in play.
But on the subject of overriding vetoes: I want Trump at sometime in the future to veto a bill and then for Congress to vote whether to override it. It’ll be a good way to flush out the phonies.
Howard,
Winning arguments is easy, when you can simply *make up* what the other side is saying.
The saddest thing to me...the campaign commercials that will never air:
Trump voice over: In march of this year the Republicans and I wrote a budget that moved America forward. It passed in a partyline vote in the House and was defeated by obstructionist Democrats in the Senate. Your senator (insert name here) was one of those who prevented us from beginning a responsible budget process. You can do your part in helping make America great by opposing (insert name here) this fall and helping Republicans elect enough senators to overcome Democratic obstructionism.
Everyone not sufficiently pro-abortion is a racist. even though the left kill thousands of black babies every year.
“She's a silly and ignorant woman, and the insult, gloating, and smug self-satisfaction are a product of the silliness and ignorance, not any deeper malice.”
Hmmm, perhaps I am a silly ignorant woman, but not silly or ignorant enough not to recognize the sickness that must’ve been percolating in you Trumpists for a long time. First you vote for Trump, secondly, so many of you will continue to live in your fantasy world, in which Trump is the Prince instead of the frog. No matter how many times you kiss him, he won’t turn you into the Prince or Princess and you won’t live happily ever after.
Scott Adams has hypnotized you, or you’ve deluded yourselves. Time to wake up now.
It's amazing how much material a truly determined troll can generate.
"Inga isn't a vile, ugly piece of work. She's a silly and ignorant woman, and the insult, gloating, and smug self-satisfaction are a product of the silliness and ignorance, not any deeper malice."
I think you're missing Arendt's point about the banality of evil. Evil on a large scale needs vast numbers of Inga-like mediocrities, who only process politics through a silly, child-like lens: politics as the "organization of hatreds." Her personal attacks on you pollute this site, and she is quite proud of it.
"Trump is the Prince instead of the frog. '
There are no princes or frogs.
In fact on these matters there are no individuals as such.
There is no Trump, the man, that matters. There is Trump, the symbolic embodiment of the will of a large number. And his enemies, likewise. Complaints about Trump, as an individual, or any other person, are symbolically displaced attacks against millions.
We foolishly argue about persons, while we ignore systems and processes. Because most people are incapable of leaving behind the illusions of personality, the need for symbols.
“It's amazing how much material a truly determined troll can generate.”
It’s unkind to call Bimbo a troll.
Buwaya may not understand dealing with a wide hipped Norse, red headed woman. You try to possess one of them them at your own peril.
The 4chan world commenters are saying that the uniparty budget buster was necessary because it slipped by the approval of many Military Commissions, plus it added $80 billion for the Army. Traitor Obama had flushed most of the best Army Officers. And now, all The Commander in Chief has to do is hire 20,000 Army Corps of Engineer personell whom he then orders to build the wall as necesary National Defense.
Scott Adams has been dissecting the Trump Con since Day 1. Perhaps some of the fools that swallowed the snake oil will realize they have been had.
When Gramsci described his "long march through the institutions" - he described it, mind you, he did not prescribe it - he was speaking of a mass phenomenon, not the acts of individuals.
Gramsci was a prophet.
Your condition is the eventual result of the phenomenon Gramsci foretold. If you want to reverse it it will be the result of a mass-movement, not the whims of one man. A man will always pop up as a figurehead, a symbol of the mass, but he will not be the mass.
Tradguy: The 4chan world commenters are saying that the uniparty budget buster was necessary because it slipped by the approval of many Military Commissions, plus it added $80 billion for the Army. Traitor Obama had flushed most of the best Army Officers. And now, all The Commander in Chief has to do is hire 20,000 Army Corps of Engineer personell whom he then orders to build the wall as necesary National Defense.
Switching from snake oil to Koolaide
“Her personal attacks on you pollute this site, and she is quite proud of it.”
I’m quite proud of being able to defend myself and sometimes I even do so with humor!
What are you proggies talking out with snake oil? Your team just got everything it wanted. BIG GUBMINT SPENDING Schumer-Nancy Pork. Get to the table and dig in.
I don’t blame Inga for celebrating. This is a big victory for Democrats over working people. It’s big. Fuck working people! If they can’t work harder for less, they should just walk into the woods and die! Deplorable bastards.
I don’t seem myself voting ever again. Right now I am watching a show about buying a condo in Lyon.
I didn’t have faith in Trump, he was just the last hope. He was no match for the swamp, with Paul Ryan leading the resistance.
Well Paul, get ready to hand over your gavel. It’s over. Fuck you, you deserve it.
“I don’t seem myself voting ever again.”
Now now, Tim. Don’t be so down in the mouth. Everything wrong eventually rights itself again, have faith. Be positive. Hugging you very tightly and with much love and affection.
What is really great is that the southern border has now been obliterated for all time.
I can’t wait to see how you guys flood the country with illiterate immigrants and at the same time enact single-payer. I am sure the math will all work out!
Fact is, I can easily afford to leave, I am of independent means and well insulated from all of the problems, I don’t have to compete with illegal immigrants for jobs, my kids are fine thank you. I feel bad for the deplorables though. The ones who don’t have the skills to compete in a knowledge economy, just like the illegals, the ones who come and do their jobs for less. Face it, knowledge economy jobs don’t go to illegals, its the poor who suffer, and people who get their medical care in emergency rooms.
For the rest of us “America is already great!”
“My fellow Americans: I was elected with the promise to secure our borders, and I will not fail you like so many others have. If the omnibus spending bill fails to include full funding for my Big Beautiful Border Wall, I will not sign it, period. Please contact Mr. Ryan and Mr. McConnell now and remind them that unlike the elder Bush, when I say ‘read my lips’ I mean it.”
"Everything wrong eventually rights itself again,"
No, usually it doesn't. The British Empire failed, and so did the Spanish. This goes back any number of iterations. Some of the greatest historical writing, ever, is about the failure of the Roman Empire. The US Empire is failing. I am the leftover of a failed empire, I know.
You lot are done, I think. Over. Trump is your Aetius, your Stilicho.
The only question, wonderment, I have is in the people who are happy about it.
“I don’t seem myself voting ever again.”
That could be a good thing, depending on your perspective.
If you are a Leftist, then Yes, please stop voting!
If you are not a Leftist, well, a blanket injunction against voting incrementally helps the Leftists who don't like you anyway.
LOL. Don’t be mad at me for your own poor choices, idiot.
For the last time you stupid bint, I wrote in a name because my vote doesn't count in the state I reside. That name was Mike Rowe.
Trump was better than Hillary. Hillary Clinton - the vile, corrupt, vicious bitch - was better than Jill Stein.
You voted for Jill Stein.
Idiot.
“I feel bad for the deplorables though. The ones who don’t have the skills to compete in a knowledge economy...”
True. Yet they were the group that was most taken in by the snakeoil salesman. Very sad indeed.
Maybe we should ask Mexico if they want to be part of California...yes that’s silly.
Fuck Him and the whores he rode in on
Gotta give credit where due, Howard. Clever.
Apparently China is targeting trade war to the red core of Trump land. See what happens when you place blind faith in a silver-tongued savior. You people should have heeded Scott Adams
"Maybe we should ask Mexico if they want to be part of California...yes that’s silly."
Mexican politicians are already campaigning in California.
And there is plenty of talk of dual-nation voting in SoCal, and defaulting to dual-citizenship.
Never say never. The demographic facts will be decisive, in the end.
As the Roman limes (frontiers) broke down, the empire permitted the Visigoths to enter to relieve the pressure. But The Visigoths invited in their relations, and so it went.
And I speak as a descendant of Visigoths.
mock: thanks, but I don't view Trump's betrayal as a victory. In one fell swoop, he fixed the democrats too liberal problem. Now we are stuck with Pelosi-Schemer. Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
The headlines would have touted "a humiliating defeat" for Trump for weeks.
I agree. The GOP Congress is owned by donors who really don't care much about the wishes or agenda of GOP voters.
If the incumbents lose, there are always eager replacements who want to make a fortune representing the right people.
The "right people" are not the voters.
Trump has a long battle ahead of him. I am not at all sure he can win it.
I suspect this means the Dims will win the House in November and the left will indulge an impeachment fantasy for another year.
Again, proggies - your TEAM D just voted for this thing en mass. and the few radical leftists who didn't vote for said it didn't spend enough. You're not really grasping that here. Your excitement is that a few conservatives are unhappy with Trump. That's as far as your wee-brains can take you?
You want more of the snake oil you decry, is what you are really saying. You want more big government /little guy fuck over. Kinda pathetic, but then again, that's the backbone of the modern progressive: "Fuck you, gimme more free shit."
China is targeting trade war to the red core of Trump land.
Trump surrendered the battle he could win (the border wall) and is now fighting a battle he cannot win (a trade war).
"See what happens when you place blind faith in a silver-tongued savior. "
There is no other saviour. There is none that will save you and your either Howard.
The facts are nasty. The end point is Brazil, perhaps, or Mexico. There will be a very white-Asian mixed-race upper class, and there will be a very large, downtrodden lower class, and across the lot of it your cultural heritage will be a matter of interest only to academics.
There is no avoiding this, it is the Democratic party platform. Note that across Latin America leftist ideology, at least the lip-service to it, is SOP. It covers over a social structure the precise opposite of its ideals.
"Maybe we should ask Mexico if they want to be part of California...yes that’s silly."
It would probably work better the other way round.
R's control all three branches of the federal government and Bimbo thinks this is a Democrat caused situation. I think they invented a pill to cure that sort of persecution delusion.
Inga cheers the stock market going down. Capping a wonderful week for her team.
Sick. Very sick.
For 2020 can Trump run as Democrat?
“Inga cheers the stock market going down. Capping a wonderful week for her team.”
Only cheering the fact that Trump is made an even bigger fool by crowing about the stock market and giving himself credit for it when things were going well.
@Howard,
Love ya, but....
"I voted for Hillary, Obamby twice, GWB twice and Perot twice before that."
Are you trying for maximum political randomness:)
Where is our Drago? I hope he didn’t do something foolish in his disillusionment.
Inga
You want the economy to crash because ....Trump. That is sick as shit.
Mexican politics is interesting.
Its nature has many parallels, especially that of the PRI (Partido Revolucionario Institucional), the structure and ideology of which is precisely that of the modern US Democratic party, differing only in the wealth of the society in which it exists.
There is all sorts of stuff on the nature of Mexico's culture, economy and politics.
But an excellent introduction is here - the classic satire "La ley de Herodes" - Herods law - full movie here on Youtube.
La ley de Herodes
In Spanish of course, but easy enough to figure out.
And you lot should be learning Spanish anyway.
“You want the economy to crash because ....Trump. That is sick as shit.”
Michael knows all, sees all.
Maybe there’s something about men named Michael...
FTR,
Althouse asked a question.
And then, she claimed to have the answer by restating something DJT wrote re the supposed answer.
Instead of this lameness, it would have been interesting for her to actually provide a plausible answer. I.e., an answer that included what DJT wrote re this stuff yesterday, and what he must have seen on the boob this morning.
Usually I'd identify this Alt-flub as cool or funny. But, that seems not quite right. Better: SAD!
robother: I think you're missing Arendt's point about the banality of evil. Evil on a large scale needs vast numbers of Inga-like mediocrities, who only process politics through a silly, child-like lens:
I understand Arendt's point, I just never found it terribly illuminating. I find Solzhenitsyn's remark about where the line between good and evil runs more to the point.
Does the dumb smack Inga talks about me on the internet predict a person who'll do nasty things to perceived enemies if opportunity arises or the order comes down? Maybe. But not being a person who talks dumb smack about other people is equally predictive. What do they have in common? They're human.
I talk smack about Inga, too. I just did. It's a better class of smack, I like to think, but does the ability to not sound like a special-needs viper mean that I'm a nicer, better person?
I'd watch my back around me, too.
“....but does the ability to not sound like a special-needs viper mean that I'm a nicer, better person?”
More like an angelic buzzard that thinks it’s a swan, I’d say. BTW, did I give you permission to use it? Only kidding, I’m honored.
Howard said...
R's control all three branches of the federal government
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Pardon me, but no, they do not.
So long as it requires 60 Senate votes to pass a bill, then no, the R's do not *control* in that chamber, and therefore do not *control* the legislative branch.
Michael,
She hit you with a hyperlink.
There's no coming back from that.
the left kill thousands of black babies every year
Well, they are diversitists (i.e. color judgments or deny individual dignity), and they deny science (e.g. evolution, not creation, of human life). Not to mention Obama's trail of tears, and social justice adventures that are first-order forcings of catastrophic anthropogenic immigration reform. Resolving the collateral damage caused by social justice advocates will require a substantial investment.
BAG: Up until 2016, I was a Life Long Libertarian (LLL). The way GWB fucked up the Middle East, I wrote off the republicans. I would have voted Dem in 2004 except I couldn't bring myself to support JF Kerry for CIC. I had high hopes for Obama since he was the first of my age to run for Pres. Obama was a big disappointment, in many ways an awful continuation of Bush. I finally switched from libertarian to democrat to vote Sanders in the primary because I hate Hillary. I would have voted for the republican if it wasn't Trump.
Well, many cons seem to be sick.
Presumably a side effect of so much winning.
Carry on.
Your excess white space is racist, sitter.
I feel like I'm Taxed Enough Already!!
Gee, that sounds like a great slogan for a movement that wants to stop the madness of government overspending.
do you think it will go anywhere?
...or it's an artifact of one handed typing.
The big problems about analogizing modern Mexican politics and social system to the future state of the US -
- Mexico is for all intents and purposes a unified culture. Not always on the ground - see "Ley de Herodes", where the new alcalde has to deal with a pueblo where all the people speak only their Indian tongue. But the mass media and public, urban culture are unified. The US is not that, and will not be, it will be distinct tribal groups, determined by race, culture and even language, fighting for power. That will be more unstable than Mexico or Brazil.
- Mexico has an extremely wealthy neighbor to leech off of, providing the world largest, richest market, and thereby covering over every sort of social and economic failure. Mexico looks good, statistically, in comparison to much of the rest of the third world, but if you were to make any of the others a contiguous neighbor of the US they too would seem relatively wealthy. But a Mexico-standard US will not have some wealthier neighbor to bail it out.
Good F1 race in Mexico.
If I was judging outside of the historic classics, it'd be the top.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s
..or intoxication.
OK Murph, I stand corrected. The R's only have total control of the supreme court, the house and the president while only have a majority in the senate, they don't have the super-majority for cloture.
I really appreciate you bringing me back down to earth on this point. In a way, the 60-vote cloture is like the electoral college where democracy doesn't always prevail. Another check that helps to balance power between town and gown, factory and farm, city and country.
When my wife was complaining about the attacks on Obamacare, I told her that it was Obama's fault because of the trick they used to finance the bill and avoid a cloture vote.
This is exactly why I don't like parliamentary systems. It also shows those who hate Trump (I'm talking hate here, a very strong word, hate - Guess the film reference for extra credit) why our system can tolerate such a disruptive figure as Dronald.
Inga posted this, giddy as ever at an imagined victory
"The pièce de résistance for this week.
“Shares of banks and technology firms dragged markets sharply lower Friday, punctuating the worst week for major U.S. stock indexes in more than two years.”
WSJ"
Inga very much likes to see bad economic news. She cheers it. Bad news is the "piece de resistance" of her week. Because Trump.
Very sick person.
Pardon me, but no, they do not.
So long as it requires 60 Senate votes to pass a bill, then no, the R's do not *control* in that chamber, and therefore do not *control* the legislative branch.
It's much worse than that.
I keep telling people to read "The Ruling Class" by Codevilla.
Never has there been so little diversity within America’s upper crust. Always, in America as elsewhere, some people have been wealthier and more powerful than others. But until our own time America’s upper crust was a mixture of people who had gained prominence in a variety of ways, who drew their money and status from different sources and were not predictably of one mind on any given matter. The Boston Brahmins, the New York financiers, the land barons of California, Texas, and Florida, the industrialists of Pittsburgh, the Southern aristocracy, and the hardscrabble politicians who made it big in Chicago or Memphis had little contact with one another. Few had much contact with government, and “bureaucrat” was a dirty word for all. So was “social engineering.” Nor had the schools and universities that formed yesterday’s upper crust imposed a single orthodoxy about the origins of man, about American history, and about how America should be governed. All that has changed.
Today’s ruling class, from Boston to San Diego, was formed by an educational system that exposed them to the same ideas and gave them remarkably uniform guidance, as well as tastes and habits. These amount to a social canon of judgments about good and evil, complete with secular sacred history, sins (against minorities and the environment), and saints. Using the right words and avoiding the wrong ones when referring to such matters — speaking the “in” language — serves as a badge of identity.
We have a uniparty with a few patriots, like Dave Brat, on the outside.
They all feed at the same trough.
Mike K: Maybe you are sufficiently woke to see through the Trump con and realize that he has always been and always will be a court jester for the uniparty.
“Inga very much likes to see bad economic news. She cheers it. Bad news is the "piece de resistance" of her week. Because Trump.
Very sick person”
Boring and repetitive. Look into your crystal ball ( or your ass) and see what else you can envision.
"The R's only have total control of the supreme court, the house and the president"
US party affiliations are, as we have seen, largely irrelevant. The "Republican" control of Congress does not matter for the most part, as a large number of Congressmen and Senators are in practice inclined to the Democratic party platform.
The most important branch of government is also, as we have seen, not any elected or even judicial branch, but the bureaucracy, which is owned entirely by the Democrats, being the "party of government", owning the loyalty of its personnel. This is very much like Mexico, by the way.
Besides these, there are "branches" of government that are not included in your constitution that exist regardless, and cannot be ignored. In the US the Democrats have entire control of the high-ground of the intellectual culture, of academia, of corporate management (see Google, etc.), of finance, and of course of the mass media. This matters much more than what passes for the elected government.
"Mike K: Maybe you are sufficiently woke to see through the Trump con and realize that he has always been and always will be a court jester for the uniparty."
Have you no inclination to rebel against the uniparty?
Are they not also your enemies?
And do read Codevilla.
Thanks for the even tone of your reply -- given the stupid bickering back 'n forth around here I wasn't sure what to expect.
So, I'll go on to also disagree with your statement that the R's have total control of the SCt. So long as Kennedy swings like a drunken monkey hanging from a tree, the R's can't count on 5 on their side of any issue, esp. a social issue. Oh, and did you happen to see that Thomas and Alito dissented from a recent SCt decision on the side of a more expansive, rather than a limited, interpretation of certain IRS statutes? The vote was 7-2 on an opinion written by Breyer. Not sure how that type of result fits in with your "total control" description. Check it out, here:
http://reason.com/volokh/2018/03/22/the-supreme-court-on-broad-interpretatio
Ann is understandably convulsed with laughter at the antics of her humorist President, forever finding elements of subtle hilarity in his handling of the press, his staff, his Twitter feed and incidentally the federal government.
That powerful thing with the fake veto today -- that was so funny!
Purging the staff or watching the grownups go -- that's so deep!
Not having the balls to face the press -- hey, he's a trickster, a comic genius.
Getting Kudlow and Bolton from TV, though di Genaro can't make it. The best.
As far as the women, so many of Ann's readers have shown what fun that is.
Still, the comedy has several acts to come, sure to be entertaining, especially when that especially ludicrous clown, Robert Mueller, steps into the limelight. Chaplinesque!
will we ever to get to point where declaring "AT LEAST HE'S NOT HILLARY" is no longer a compelling argument?
"Boring and repetitive. Look into your crystal ball ( or your ass) and see what else you can envision."
I know it's hard to tell them apart. But, it's the other Mike that is the proctologist (or was it surgeon?).
All humorless, self-absorbed jabberers look the same.
P.S.
How sad is it that the doc can't read the body language of folks as they respond to his recommendations.
VERY SAD!
P.P.S.
Is it to early to start placing bets on the doc's bedtime notification? If not, put me down for four hours and forty six minutes from now.
Inga, whenever one of the cucks calls you a name, it reminds me that they are cowards who fear Witchy Women
buwaya: The facts are nasty. The end point is Brazil, perhaps, or Mexico. There will be a very white-Asian mixed-race upper class, and there will be a very large, downtrodden lower class, and across the lot of it your cultural heritage will be a matter of interest only to academics.
There is no avoiding this, it is the Democratic party platform. Note that across Latin America leftist ideology, at least the lip-service to it, is SOP. It covers over a social structure the precise opposite of its ideals.
That's it in a nutshell. It's also the GOPe party platform, though the GOPe electoral and think-tank/propaganda system still employs some people who seem to sincerely believe that they're propagandizing for traditional American civic values. They're creepier than their Dem counterparts (whose "who we are" rhetoric is unapologetically hostile and alien to that culture), probably because there is something inherently disturbing and repulsive about castrati.
Sure Murph, the Supreme's really only have a couple rock-ribbed republicans while the other three are country-club types. Mike Savage calls them checked-pants republicans. Still, the republicans hold most of the cards. Remember when Reagan was Pres? He got shit done with all the cards stacked against him, so the excuse that the Dems have control now is pretty weak.
Over at The_Donald on Reddit they are having something of a meltdown, not dissimilar to some here. I think this is a little unfair. Trump didn't run as fiscal conservative. In fact he promised to protect entitlements and since entitlements comprise the majority of government spending there was never any possibility he was going to produce a balanced or even close to balanced budget. The extent of the budget blowout is a bit surprising but that is on the GOPe and their mania for tax cuts. The problem for the Donald is that he isn't really advancing any of his own agenda.
Inga
It is not boring to point out the sickness of progressives who view economic loss as a gain, who cheer when the market dives because in their very feeble minds those pullbacks are the result of their magical thinking, of their insane hatred of Trump. I believe you are too stupid to be evil, but more probably an avid watcher of The View from which your political stances derive. But you really shouldn't cheer reflexively when there is bad economic news. Your income might reside in one of those fallen equities.
Phil: Ironically, if HillBill won, the republicans would be a lock to get super-majority in the senate by 2020 plus prolly the presidency. With Trump, the rural red base forgot that "if something looks too good to be true, it probably is"
"In fact he promised to protect entitlements and since entitlements comprise the majority of government spending there was never any possibility he was going to produce a balanced or even close to balanced budget. The extent of the budget blowout is a bit surprising but that is on the GOPe and their mania for tax cuts. The problem for the Donald is that he isn't really advancing any of his own agenda."
I bet that in 48 hours all this fuss will disappear and unquestioning allegiance will return.
If real numbers and thinking ever mattered, these folks would have always been so-called never Trumpers.
Just wait.
"Remember when Reagan was Pres? He got shit done with all the cards stacked against him"
In Reagans day even the Democrats were, relatively, "conservative" by modern standards.
And in his day most of the high ground of the culture was also conservative, especially corporate management and finance. The "long march" had only barely managed to take over parts of academia, and the consequences had only just begun to propagate.
And there was a cold war to focus peoples minds.
You are in a far worse state today.
So, no veto.
I'm sort of confused why the left is calling Trump weak, that he got 'rolled,' etc.
He COMPROMISED WITH THE LEFT and they STILL treat him like garbage. Not even a small compromise. He sold out a good chunk of his base.
And this is how the left responds to getting what they want? I'd hate to see what would happen if they don't.
"Over at The_Donald on Reddit they are having something of a meltdown, not dissimilar to some here."
They are correct. This is a disastrous development that I do not think the US can recover from. There is no reversal of this. You should fear it.
I hope you are all well-hedged, and in particular that you have alternate plans for your retirement income.
"I bet that in 48 hours all this fuss will disappear and unquestioning allegiance will return."
I think you will see economic fallout from this that cannot be papered over.
“I'm sort of confused why the left is calling Trump weak, that he got 'rolled,' etc.”
It’s the right that’s saying this about Trump, haven’t you read the numerous commenters saying they’re “done with Trump”?
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Howard, lol. I’ve been called a witchy woman before. I have a pic somewhere of me on my very first broom at 16 years old...
Yeah. The right has been "done with Trump" every time he reached an olive branch to the left to be summarily slapped by both sides.
And, just like Bush, he never seems to learn.
Inga: the parts of me not Viking are Celtic, so it's definitely a compliment.
"Remember when Reagan was Pres? He got shit done with all the cards stacked against him"
To expand, on the nature of Democrats, it is interesting to consider the administration of Jimmy Carter. He had a Democratic Congress, a Democratic Senate (from 1978), and an extremely liberal Supreme Court.
Regardless of that, or perhaps because of that, that government passed much of the deregulation legislation that was later attributed to Reagan.
buwaya said...
This is a disastrous development that I do not think the US can recover from.
Worse or better than the Iraq war?
Worse or better than the national real estate bubble?
Worse or better than the run on the investment banks following the recognition that their mortgage-backed derivatives were not what they seemed?
Worse or better than the Great Recession?
Matthew: Your view is too simplistic. Trump isn't offering an olive branch, he is caving in to the uniparty deep state who, apparently, has him by the short and curlies. The bill also contained some anti-Russia collusion shit in it. You are naive to think Trump isn't motivated by his own selfish interests. I thought Scott Adams made that crystal clear.
""Remember when Reagan was Pres? He got shit done with all the cards stacked against him"
In Reagans day even the Democrats were, relatively, "conservative" by modern standards."
If tripling the deficit and doubling the debt = getting "shit done."
Nothing's changed. Precisely because of you, and such as you typed out here.
Think about it.
Or don't. IOW carry on.
"Worse or better than the Iraq war?"
Much worse. Everybody has expensive wars. At least that one got relatively few Americans killed and had no demographic consequences.
The problems you have are structural.
Who has power, how it is concentrated, and whether they can operate with impunity.
"Worse or better than the Great Recession?"
That was a consequence of the early stages of your current power structure, its overriding power and impunity. These developments this week show that that power structure cannot be effectively challenged. You really are serfs now.
“Inga: the parts of me not Viking are Celtic, so it's definitely a compliment.”
I know, lol. I’m all Viking (well German actually, I lie), and they had some fierce witchy women too. I suppose Germans had their own Hexes.
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"If tripling the deficit and doubling the debt = getting "shit done."
Winning the cold war and, well, check GDP and median income growth till 2000.
He also managed to put the whole world back on a rapid growth track after a global stall in the 1970's. Reagan (or rather, the society that elected him as their representative) deserves his reputation. Almost the last hurrah of the American genius.
matthew
So, no veto.
I'm sort of confused why the left is calling Trump weak, that he got 'rolled,' etc.
He COMPROMISED WITH THE LEFT and they STILL treat him like garbage. Not even a small compromise. He sold out a good chunk of his base.
And this is how the left responds to getting what they want? I'd hate to see what would happen if they don't.
boom
AdSs: I didn't say Ronnie achieved greatness, I called it getting shit done. He accomplished what he set out to do with democrats running the congress. Even with Alzheimer's, he out performed Trump. He also started the war on terror by selling arms to Iran and the Taliban and funded death squads in central America. The hero of the cuckservative chickenhawks.
Right Buw,
Power to the hard workin' normal peeps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States#/media/File:U.S._Hourly_Wages_-_Real_or_Adjusted_for_Inflation_1964-2014.png
That Ronnie time was somethin'.
Howard - you prove moment by moment that you are a complete moron.
The Germans are a mix of Celts and Vikings. My wife is German and Irish. When those silly little cowards were talking about "taking your women" upthread, it made me laugh. You can have her, I was thinking, and after she cuts your throat and steals all your gold, we will party. I learned this as a young man playing coed softball: our team was the best because we had the strongest women.
Howard said...
Inga, whenever one of the cucks calls you a name,
I'm always amused when name callers whine about name calling. But when you have to support left wing ideology name calling is less discrediting.
If you want a Trump analogy, consider Gorbachev.
He came on when the Soviet Union was getting progressively more sclerotic, when it could no longer work as before, it could not compete economically or militarily. Gorbachev tried radical reforms, which failed, as the society and culture could not be changed to suit without breaking a great many rice bowls.
He did however tick off most of the Soviet PTB, so they got rid of him - or tried to, unconstitutionally by their standards. Then the whole SU collapsed, all the bits rapidly lost confidence in the center and nobody would take orders any longer.
The US is much further from the edge, economically, however I don't think it is very safe socially. The crisis of confidence in your government is very real.
BTW,
look at the max, inflation adjusted, number per hour in that link. Even at the peak, less than $23/hour.
Sheesh.
I, literally, can't imagine that. I do understand that there are, supposedly, places where you can buy a house (or manu home) for a hundred grand. But still, I don't see how that adds up.
That comment about the Ruling Class is an example of how history is a pack of lies agreed upon. But the assertion that today's elites are less diverse or that prior elites were unaware of each other or of government isn't common knowledge. Elites today are far more diverse in race and gender, and that's the result of the opening up of the great universities after WW2 on merit to millions who never had, or thought they had, the opportunity.
Before WW2 Ann's grandparents would have raged against FDR and his cronies, almost all white men -- remember Frances Perkins -- who all came from the same schools and established families and who comprised a far more impenetrable elite than ambitious people face today.
That nexus of power consolidated in elites goes back right through our history -- to think that Southern planters weren't aware of Boston Brahmins, who owned ships, and New York financiers, who had money, as their partners and agents in the cotton and slave trades, is reading some strange history. Remember where Quentin Compson was when he dictated Absalom, Absalom? In his room at Harvard College.
"The Germans are a mix of Celts and Vikings. "
The Germans are Germans. The Germans were making trouble for both Romans and Celts for @six centuries before any identifiable Norsemen appeared among them.
Even the "Goths" (from Gotland, Sweden) were a coalition of German tribes led by a "Viking" upper crust.
Anywho,
Tariffs and coal jobs will fix it all.
And, of course, more tax cuts for the job creators.
So, not to worry.
And, Howard, you don't want to come and fight.
As I said, on the oxhide (virtually).
And, HRC is not POTUS.
So, obviously: MAGA.
I notice Howard keeps using 'cuck' in totally inapplicable ways. Howie, is this just cluelessness on your part, or is it a deliberate attempt to destroy this word's specific meaning and move it in the same category as 'racist' and 'bigot'?
“...You can have her, I was thinking, and after she cuts your throat and steals all your gold, we will party. I learned this as a young man playing coed softball: our team was the best because we had the strongest women.”
Yay for strong women, what would strong men do without them? It’s only the weak men that fear and loathe strong women.
"I, literally, can't imagine that. I do understand that there are, supposedly, places where you can buy a house (or manu home) for a hundred grand. But still, I don't see how that adds up."
Interestingly they could indeed do that not too long ago. Real property has been bid up nearly everywhere, far above median income growth. The reasons for this would be interesting to explore.
Bimbo: Yes, exactly. I am a moron and proud of it. I know what I am. You and your comrades are under the impression that you are ubermensch. I know, Nietzsche again - Boooooring! My hero is Carl from Sling Blade who taught us that the simple things in life are the most true.
Blah blah blah,
This hurts, but Trump played it exactly right. As political theatre, I was very impressed by his midday "press conference" that knocked the networks off air to give him the bully pulpit. Wonderful bait and switch that left them sputtering after the fact that it wasn't a press conference after all, and that they had been snookered into letting Trump, our President, have a clear field to make his points.
Seriously, every point he made was politically brilliant.
Kirk: Cuck has been a favorite word of the conservative right to describe Libruls since Trump entered the stage. I use it ironically because I'm an asshole.
Many otherwise sensible Althouse commenters: "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!"
That gesture would have been a veto of the omnibus funding bill which would have almost certainly been overridden. You wanted Trump to be Bluto, but in this case, Trump was the adult in the room. He was outflanked and defeated by his own party and he took the loss about as graciously as possible.
I admit to being surprised at how many of you are being led around by the nose on this by the never-Trumpers (overt and covert) and the media. If you doubt that, take a look around and see who's happy here today.
There are people to fault though. And the list starts with Wisconsin's own Paul Ryan, who put this bill together in collusion with Pelosi and the Democrats. He didn't want the Speaker's job to begin with and maybe it's time for him to go.
Home prices/median income ratio
Note that in the 1960's it was closer to 1:1
Home price - median Income
Sitter is correct in pointing out that Reagan was a disaster for working people. Figure A highlights the problem. Almost all the benefits from gains in productivity after Reagan went to the 1%. Reagan was the end of the American Dream.
Inga: If you want strong kids... most cucks don't get it. Darwin's a bitch
"Cuck has been a favorite word of the conservative right to describe Libruls"
IIRC, it was an epithet against the anti-Trump Republicans.
The Democrats are something else.
“Wonderful bait and switch that left them sputtering after the fact that it wasn't a press conference after all, and that they had been snookered into letting Trump, our President, have a clear field to make his points.”
It was amusing, as the théâtre de l'absurde can be.
Carter was a disaster for the working people. That's why the working people threw him out.
CWJ and Rabel obviously don't pick up what Dilbert is putting down. How much ass fucking does it take before you decide not to be a bitch?
"Sitter is correct in pointing out that Reagan was a disaster for working people."
Divergence began during the high unemployment of the deindustrialization of the 1970's. It continued, because the growth post-1976 or so was in the service economy.
Also consider that it was this takeoff of the service economy that brought in the female workforce.
Male Female Labor Force
Carter is all Bimbo's got. Scrapping the bottom of the barrel is not a good look, honey.
Trump should have fought.
If he lost, so what? At least he tried.
And he would identified who was for open borders, illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, funding planned parenthood, and a whole bunch of other stuff. And he would have energized his base.
But he caved and then gave the lame George Bush excuse - we had to support the Military. What Bullshit. We're not fighting a war. And we're not going to lose the next one because we spend $750 billion instead of $710 Billion.
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