12 ફેબ્રુઆરી, 2018

"So when a male art instructor asked London-based artist Alex Bertulis-Fernandes to 'dial down the feminism,'in her work, she took some time for self-reflection..."

... and came back with this:

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અજ્ઞાત કહ્યું...

"Art".

TrespassersW કહ્યું...

What are the odds that she made up the comment by the "male art instructor?"

TrespassersW કહ્યું...

And any guesses as to how much actual "self-reflection" she engaged in? 30 seconds? A minute?

bleh કહ્યું...

Well, based on that image I think she should dial it down a bit. Maybe move it to 12 o'clock.

buwaya કહ્યું...

"Dehumanization" - Hysteria.

Why can't art be about beauty?
I don't see why a woman artist can't be extremely feminine and still be into creating beauty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lisabeth_Vig%C3%A9e_Le_Brun

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/LadyHamilton.jpg

Nothing dehumanized in any of that I think.

traditionalguy કહ્યું...

OK. She is a fighter woman in search of an enemy to fight with her art.

Birkel કહ્યું...

Those are the two options?

As a solid Leftist Collectivist, I see this "artist" has learned well the art of burning strawpeople.

Idiot.

Wilbur કહ્યું...

She needs to dial it up to 11.

Earnest Prole કહ્યું...

Our feminism goes to eleven.

madAsHell કહ્યું...

What do you bet the dial can't be turned off "Raging Feminist"?

William કહ્યું...

I hope the teacher loses his job. Ideally that teacher's wife should leave him. If she doesn't, she's complicit. I do, however, think the teacher should be given supervised visitation rights with his children, it's possible to go too far with the feminism.

Earnest Prole કહ્યું...

That's one louder, isn't it?

Patrick Henry was right! કહ્યું...

Where is the normal human being setting?

buwaya કહ્યું...

Madame Lebrun and Daughter - self portrait

A happy woman and a great talent.

fivewheels કહ્યું...

Remember, it's "dehumanizing" to make any effort to be less belligerently obnoxious.

Gabriel કહ્યું...

@Earnest Prole:Our feminism goes to eleven.

Why don't you have it go to ten, but just have ten be louder?

Matt Sablan કહ્યું...

Too lazy to click. Can we see what art was being criticized? Some political art is over the top and dialing it back may be a good idea.

Honestly, I think this is a good response. It is political. The art is modern and stark. It gets across the message clearly. The teacher's comment helped. Even if he may have been a dick about it.

Lem Vibe Bandit કહ્યું...

Her feminism goes to eleven.

Fernandinande કહ્યું...

"There isn’t an on-off switch when it comes to actively supporting the fight or equality. For the battle to be truly won, people must stand against discrimination at every turn."

LOL, what a load.

Bitch be givin' "Fernand*" a bad name.

Heartless Aztec કહ્યું...

All it lacks is Nigel's "11" on the dial.

Jupiter કહ્યું...

I kind of like the weird little raised circle around the knob.

rcocean કહ્યું...

Yeah, Feminist Art.

Yeeeaaah.

Bay Area Guy કહ્યું...

Hah - you bastards beat me to it!

Take it to 11, Baby!!!

(It'd be nice if we had a picture of this shrinking little violet. What are the odds she's hot?)

rcocean કહ્યું...

I would never tell a female artist to "Dial Down her feminism"

I'd just call her art crap.

Jupiter કહ્યું...

Roy Jacobsen said...
"And any guesses as to how much actual "self-reflection" she engaged in? 30 seconds? A minute?"

“I kept thinking, ‘Is my art too feminist?’” Bertulis-Fernandes told Newsweek. But after a few days of contemplation, the question evolved to, “What makes art too feminist?”

langford peel કહ્યું...

This just nonsense.

Feminists are great artists.

Bullshit artists.

Everything they say and do is just bullshit.

They should learn to iron and make sandwiches or they will be resigned to a lonely life with three or four cats who will consume their rotting flesh when they die alone and loveless.

Happy Valentines Day!

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together કહ્યું...

Funny. To me the opposite of feminist seems like it would be humanist.

mockturtle કહ્યું...

Women have never been freer to pursue their goals. They are as free as men in that pursuit. She is a pathetic case of identity politics spoiling every facet of our culture. Bad enough that her shallow cause is noticed but worse that it becomes a cause célèbre.

Robert Cook કહ્યું...

It's quite funny!

Jupiter કહ્યું...

"Feminism is relevant and important to everyone, but men are much more likely to think, 'I can afford not to engage.'"

Maybe she could design a companion piece. Something failing to engage ...

Paul Zrimsek કહ્યું...

Ordinarily you'd use a knob like that with a potentiometer or some other sort of continuously variable control, not a two-position toggle switch.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

'art an' is an interesting tag. But I don't know what it means. Could you please dial back the stumping tags? Thanks in advance.

Paul Zrimsek કહ્યું...

It's like, how much more black-and-white can she be? And the answer is none, none more black-and-white.

buwaya કહ્યું...

" the opposite of feminist "

Is feminine.

langford peel કહ્યું...

Feminism is like krytonite.

To your erection.

Robert Cook કહ્યું...

"Why can't art be about beauty?"

It can be about beauty, as that is among the aspects of human existence, but art should not be only decoration.

MeatPopscicle1234 કહ્યું...

God I am so sick of these people and their "raging" egotism... Fucking get over yourself already...

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

From the Article:

(artist) credits her instructor for fostering an environment where she could freely express her views. “I never felt like I’d be penalized. At the end of the day, he’ll express his opinion, I’ll express mine. It’s a dialogue.”

He sounds like a good instructor, then.

Doug કહ્યું...

"Look at ME! I am a VICTIM!"

langford peel કહ્યું...

Maybe Vox Day can create a feminist supervillain for his new Alt-Hero comicbook called "Femi-Nazi" with a cleavage baring outfit with lots of black leather and a whip.

Think of the possibilities.

DKWalser કહ્યું...

How does she feel about being complicit in the dehumanization of half the population? That's the new feminism.

Fernandinande કહ્યું...

Roy Jacobsen said...
What are the odds that she made up the comment by the "male art instructor?"


That naughty, naughty man!

"At the moment I'm going viral, which is nice.
...
I like to create Miss Piggy videos inspired by Taylor Swift, NHS propaganda posters, and write about How I Ate Nothing But Cake and Almost Doubled My Weight.

There's a Getty image of me on the tube in my underwear."

Fernandinande કહ્યું...

"Raging feminist" says "me on the tube in my underwear."

That's like all edgy 'n' shit. Underwear!

tcrosse કહ્યું...

And yet Bertulis-Fernandes hyphen is still intact.

buwaya કહ્યું...

" but art should not be only decoration."

?

Why not?

This is decoration, nothing but -

Cordoba

Susan કહ્યું...

I personally think that a dial like this on every feminist would save a lot if time.

"Oh I see your dial is turned to 11. Good day, Ms."

langford peel કહ્યું...

You don't need a dial to tell she is a feminist.

You can tell by the mattress she is carrying.

Plus the fact that she didn't shave her pits.

mezzrow કહ્યું...

"so what you're saying is I'm a knob, then..." - instructor responds with a NoKor sideeye.

Kate કહ્યું...

I like it. The institutional, 60s-machine/stereo vibe is funny. I don't know if she has a self-deprecating sense of humor, but that's how I read the piece. Clever and successful work.

langford peel કહ્યું...

This dizzy broad thinks that a dial can let someone tell how much of a feminist she is when everyone knows how to identify a real feminist.

The general rule of thumb is that the uglier a woman is the more she identifies as a feminist.

The Brits call it Slag-dar sort of like Gaydar for wormy birds.

FIDO કહ્યું...

Never touch a feminists knobs. They resent it.

Jim at કહ્યું...

Dial it down all you want.

Not only am I not listening no matter what the sound level? I'm tuned into a different station.

Ann Althouse કહ્યું...

Made me think of Hillary's "reset" button.

langford peel કહ્યું...

I bet Chuck would love her.

He can twist the dial instead of her titty.

I just don't know if that would give him the same thrill.

Rigelsen કહ્યું...

“Self-reflection”

Is that what she calls it?

Peachy કહ્યું...

*Nothing in between*

Peachy કહ્યું...

@Mockturtle

Women have never been freer to pursue their goals. They are as free as men in that pursuit. She is a pathetic case of identity politics spoiling every facet of our culture. Bad enough that her shallow cause is noticed but worse that it becomes a cause célèbre.

Worth a nice hearty bold.

Sebastian કહ્યું...

This must be the kind of stuff they discuss in Women's Studies classes, as they "study women."

Static Ping કહ્યું...

It is always interesting when art is produced from religion.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together કહ્યું...

Stephen Pinker described PC - which feminism is basically a cousin of - as the devolution of a possibly once-legitimate movement that has entered its debauched phase. The French Revolution was necessary and initially wonderful, but became very debauched. Same with women's rights and its decades-long radical feminist aftermath. Feminism is an extended, months-long depressive period of crying, wailing and mourning that bemoans the loss of traditional/Victorian female privileges and emotional entitlements that it was necessary to overthrow in any society interested in advancing to a true state of gender equality.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together કહ્યું...

Feminism is what women can go to when they don't have anything left to cry (and yell and scream) about.

MikeR કહ્યું...

It's not either/or. Raging feminists are dehumanized.

Howard કહ્યું...

What a POS, she needed to put the dial on full-blown PMS on Steroids female rage that is located one click past 11.

Look into her eyes that's the Thousand Miles of Crazy stare.

Howard કહ્યું...

I thought women operated digitally via buttons. Anal Log is for the gay man.

Oso Negro કહ્યું...

She really stuck it to The Man! It’s pretty much raging feminist or pleasure slave of Gor for the modern woman. Not much in between I’m afraid.

ccscientist કહ્યું...

I suppose women making up 60% of college students is "dehumanizing". FFS American women have it so good compared to anywhere in the world and any time in history.

These women are so convinced that doing anything for a man is dehumanizing. Like if he does all the yard work and takes care of the cars and fixes stuff and works 60 hours/week, it is still dehumanizing to make him dinner? A relationship involves taking care of each other, doing things for each other, putting the other person first. If you are constantly on guard against "being dehumanized"--whatever that means-- you cannot have a relationship. It just isn't possible.

Laura કહ્યું...

"Bertulis-Fernandes hopes to continue the dialogue by turning 'Dial Down the Feminism' into an art installation where people can physically turn the knob."

Or leave it inflexible, just like the "dialogue."

Henry કહ્યું...

That's it?

Henry કહ્યું...

If you can't turn the dial, it's not art.

Mr. Majestyk કહ્યું...

It would have been funny if she had misspelled it "raging" as "ragging.". (snicker)

Quaestor કહ્યું...

...she took some time for self-reflection

Alex [insert silly compound name here] self-reflected for a few consecutive microseconds or gave it an over-night think. Judging by the obviousness of the metaphor I estimate she invested many sleepless hours...

and her head still hurts.

Marcus કહ્યું...

She seems, with her art, to be a one-note Johnny.

Jaq કહ્યું...

I am sure that if you tapped her knee with one of those rubber mallets, and timed the kick, you would get a number approximating her “self reflection.”

But whatever. As long as I am not paying for the shit she produces, she can produce all she can sell.I am sure that she can convince many people that anything less that raging feminism is subhuman to some degree.

roesch/voltaire કહ્યું...

Clever retort and as conceptual art not too bad--any art school is tough to navigate in terms of meeting the expectations and philosophy of the instructors while trying to dial into your own vision.

Jaq કહ્યું...

“clever retort”

It wouldn’t even be a clever blog comment. There are funnier memes produced in quantity daily. But that’s not the point, is it? The most important thing is to accept the views of the instructor if the instructor is a flaming leftist, of course, and to reject it in all other cases.

Mr. Groovington કહ્યું...

Fail. The kerning is terrible.

LA_Bob કહ્યું...

From her website http://www.alexbertulisfernandes.com/

"There's a Getty image of me on the tube in my underwear.

I’m most impressive in person."


I think her response was clever and cute. She appears to be a capable artist who is a little too politically rough around the edges. At least she doesn't seem like an angry feminist. But, she is only 23, and perhaps time and maturity will enhance her artistic vision.

Ken B કહ્યું...

Imagine if you had to speak Italian to even know what a Michelangelo painting was about?

LA_Bob કહ્યું...

I also clicked on her youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDdfFlwVoKDiw6phK_n1s1w). It said,

"This channel doesn't have any content".

Seems appropriate.

Matt કહ્યું...

The piece implies that there is in fact a happy middle between the two poles that she could in fact position the dial to by "dialing it down".

Lucien કહ્યું...

About the level of insight I’d expect from a typical 23 year old. Not everyone can be Keats.

She should go make me a sammich.

NotWhoIUsedtoBe કહ્યું...

It goes to 11.

NotWhoIUsedtoBe કહ્યું...

Wait, that's not analog. It's digital.

n.n કહ્યું...

"the opposite of feminist"... Is feminine.

Yes, it is a form of chauvinism centered on self, that is only incidentally related to the underlying gender of the individual. The feminine gender is not a punishment. It is equal in rights and complementary in nature to the masculine gender. We are women and men, girls and boys, humans, persons, from conception to a natural or elective death.

FIDO કહ્યું...

It is very simple: these days, anything a Feminist wants (including Ms. Althouse) I will immediately donate money, time or votes to the exact other side.

Feminism has shown no ability to be satisfied. No ability to be appreciative for their Bountiful Manifest gains. They have shown little to no love to the male gender and even those women who do rarely take those vilifying men to the woodshed.

So they are not trustworthy. I would suggest anyone else who find their stances illogical, against the rule of law, or socially destructive to do the exact same thing.

Bob Loblaw કહ્યું...

What do you bet the dial can't be turned off "Raging Feminist"?

It's like those radios in North Korea that are literally glued to the government station.

stevew કહ્યું...

"Raging Feminist" aka, "11".

-sw

stevew કહ્યું...

Prediction: this is the most inspired and original work of art she will ever produce.

-sw

walter કહ્યું...

"That's not funny."

Jenster કહ્યું...

maybe not so original.. perhaps the inspiration of..

http://www.arts-stew.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Man-Woman-Control-Panel.jpg

JAORE કહ્યું...

Funny. Not "bust a gut" funny, but funny.

From the files of: Lighten Up Francis.

Rocketeer કહ્યું...

[A]ny art school is tough to navigate in terms of meeting the expectations and philosophy of the instructors while trying to dial into your own vision.

Good art schools teach craft. Good art students seek to learn craft.

"Dial into your own vision" during your off hours.

Saint Croix કહ્યું...

This feminism goes to 11!

JackOfClubs કહ્યું...

The problem with this work isn't too much feminism but too little imagination. I agree with the two endpoints but there are an infinite number of possibilities between them. An artist ought to have seized the opportunity to explore more options than a simple binary choice. I give her credit for using a dial rather than a toggle switch, but that really comes from the "male art instructor" who clearly understands that the expression "dial it back" doesn't mean "turn it off". She had an opportunity to display female strength as exciting and engaging, but she chose bland, mechanical and trite. Too bad.

glacial erratic કહ્યું...

Future cat lady.

veni vidi vici કહ્યું...

I thought it was clever and amusing.

On her site, most of the best work is "Ads that will never run", which include a particularly clever ad for florists. If she pitched that around the US, she'd easily find a buyer or three that'd run with it. Perhaps stateside sensibilities towards death and politesse are a bit less rigid, though.

Known Unknown કહ્યું...

Is this feminist work?

Oh, I get it. Black guys are stereotypically well endowed.

Known Unknown કહ્યું...

I looked at the rest of her site. She's not too talented.

Known Unknown કહ્યું...

"On her site, most of the best work is "Ads that will never run", which include a particularly clever ad for florists. If she pitched that around the US, she'd easily find a buyer or three that'd run with it. Perhaps stateside sensibilities towards death and politesse are a bit less rigid, though."

That ad has been done before.

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