"... so it’s inevitable that the number of people dying without anyone’s support is also growing.... Their ties are all related to their work, so [when they retire] it’s hard for them to jump into the local community... It’s so easy for them to fall into self-neglect and become isolated, and there’s nobody to stop that from happening."
Said Masaki Ichinose, of the Center for Life and Death Studies at the University of Tokyo, quoted in "CLEANING UP AFTER THE DEAD/As family dynamics change in Japan, more people are living by themselves — and dying alone" in The Washington Post (replete with descriptions and photographs depicting the living spaces of those whose dead bodies were discovered long after they died).
The second-highest-rated comment is: "A company that cleans up after dead people is named 'Next.' I know death comes for all of us, but that seems pretty cold." That gets the response "Time to fill that space with the next tenant."
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The world's ultimate "quirky alones".
This also says a lot about one's career being only a part of your success in life. If it results in no family or friends, it is pretty sad.
It doesn't seem like the story fits the premise of the article. The deceased wasn't old -- he was 54 -- and was divorced.
Obviously, the solution is for the Government to do something. This is such a crisis!!
Obviously Japan needs to bring in more immigrants to keep the oldsters company. Because foreigners care so much.
Well, maybe for pay.
It takes work to end up being alone in this world. Yes, maybe the person is shy, or socially awkward, and would like to have friends or a family, and has tried and failed.
But often the stark reality is that the person is self-absorbed and stubborn in their own little world, doesn't reach out to people, doesn't acknowledge it when folks reach out to them.
In other words, loneliness is often a choice. A bad choice, in my view, but a choice nonetheless.
Robots for old folks. Keeps them going, records and reports their demise, cleans their space for next occupant. Win-win.
The destruction of the nuclear family was a major goal of Progressives.
Wow - when a society devalues the family relative to other aspects of life, there are negative consequences to that society!! Could never have seen that one coming!!
Cats are the answer.
Dogs guard the body, cats eat it.
What happened to companion pets? Did the Japs eat all their cats? A Koi Pond seems cold.
A Koi Pond seems cold
This time of year, it is.
It's almost too much of a cliché to point out these 2 things, but:
1. You can be lonely while living with other people.
2. Solitude is not the same thing as loneliness.
How dare the living pass judgment on a person who happened to die while living alone? Maybe he wanted peace and quiet. Maybe he was in a transition phase of life. But, yes, it creates a risk that it will be while before your body is discovered, and the cleanup problem is bad, though not for the one who died.
When a person dies with others around, we hear the cliché "he died surrounded by family and friends." He's not around to refute this characterization, but maybe he didn't like these people at all and maybe they were interfering with his ability to reflect in silence or to commune with God.
Remember Larry David on his death bed.
Robot system would include bracelet to detect/record pulse and BP. Like a FitBit, but to track cessation of activity. Call it the QuitBit.
This is a case I have a hard time forgetting:
Michigan woman's auto-payments hid her death for over 5 years
Tibetan sky burial.
"A company that cleans up after dead people is named 'Next.' I know death comes for all of us, but that seems pretty cold."
NeXT would be cold. But then, NeXT really never died.
It's also easy to be alone if you have a lotta money. 'Cuz then, you just don't give a fuck.
If you're alone and poor? Well, then it's usually just sad.
The auto-payments story points us toward the Uploading. Where we achieve immortality in the accounts receivable ledger.
Yoko Ono is Japanese. Just sayin.
BTW, Christian churches are the original industrial strength, family fellowship providers for the old widows/widowers. They exchange and get information on meeting of the senior citizens needs. They serve as an invaluable connection for many.
“If you're alone and poor? Well, then it's usually just sad”
It is. I see a lot of this sort of thing. Poor health and depression are hard enough with support. Without support, they’re a certain downward spiral. And by support, I don’t mean a government check and a social worker.
Hey, how 'bout sending some Dreamers their way?
Here's Scott (No Relation) Walker to sing you out.
"If you're alone and poor? Well, then it's usually just sad."
Where is the poverty line when you are living alone?
I think there are many solitary introvert types who lead simple, organized lives with modest incomes that would be experienced as poverty if there were a household with dependents.
If someone is living alone because of mental problems or substance abuse problems, then that's probably bad, but maybe less bad than the same person with children and a sexual partner to abuse.
While I miss my husband, I prefer living alone to any other situation. When I become unable to take care of myself, I'll move into some kind of facility. Living with my kids and grandkids would drive me nuts and then I'd have to move into another kind of facility.
"Cats are the answer."
Good God, no. I know you're being facetious, but I've seen people who've become socially isolated because of the havoc (OK, shit and piss) wrought on their homes by multiple pets that the elderly/depressed/disabled/poor person couldn't hygienically care for. Pets (and possessions) should be in exact proportion to your ability to properly care for them.
There was a long essay in the NYT by Norimitsu Onishi on the loneliness of those approaching death in Japan etc, here, at the end of November.
A death cleaning company was at a house in the neighborhood a couple years ago. The company name emblazoned on the sides of the van was Aftermath.
Amazing that people can be so lonely in such a dense society. Here is a recent story on the UK recently establishing a Minister of Loneliness Cabinet position:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-politics-health/britain-appoints-minister-for-loneliness-amid-growing-isolation-idUSKBN1F61I6
"Lonely" posts show up on the Seattle Reddit on a weekly basis: "I've been here 2 years and have no friends how do you make friends around here". The irony is that nearly every single one of these posts list the same interests, same age....lonely people all looking for the same thing. I ponder this subject often, and wonder if people are being too damn picky.
Sunshine Cleaning Service (2008) is a romcom, as I recall. Emily Blunt, before I liked her. (Live Die Repeat).
Yoko might say that they will be even happier for that.
This is a case I have a hard time forgetting:
Michigan woman's auto-payments hid her death for over 5 years
That was breathtakingly sad.
I think the Emily Blunt movie is Edge of Tomorrow. Live, Die, Repeat was the tag line (and would have been a better title). Great movie and a great ending - really the only way it could end and be honest with its internal rules.
The dying alone thing is vaguely sad in a poetic way, but the person who died doesn't care. This is however why I wouldn't recommend pets to the old and solitary unless they have someone coming every couple of days to check up on them. Your pets starving to death or dying of thirst because no one knows you died would be an awful result impacting something other than you.
Posts with a paywall are frustrating.
Your pets starving to death or dying of thirst because no one knows you died would be an awful result impacting something other than you.
Or worse, gnawing your arm off, as happened to Pancho Barnes when she died.
Reminds me of an absolutely beautiful Japanese movie, Departures
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1069238/
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