I want to sincerely apologize for the events that took place this past weekend. Although unintentional, there is no excuse for the pain that was caused to members of our community. I want to thank my friends in the NPHC for their candid and constructive conversations that we have continued to have. I have much to learn and look forward to doing such and encourage all members of our university community to do the same. We must all keep in mind how our actions affect those around us differently.Swanson says he has "much to learn" and, really, don't we all have an infinite amount to learn? Anything you do might be misunderstood by someone else, perhaps by someone who deserves empathy and perhaps by someone with powerful allies who will ruin your life if you don't anticipate how they will interpret something you say or do or even how people who hate you will claim to have interpreted something that really didn't confuse them at all.
And what about all the students who go to college for an education and get taught that their emotional stirrings — their fears about what something might mean — warrant attention and respect? Their misinterpretations count as real in the world that other people — including the once-privileged frat boy — must anticipate and guard against. Does that feel good enough or will it get old and, ultimately, just as insulting as the kind of old-fashioned expressions of racism of which the banana peel in the tree might have been reminiscent?
By the way, "How Did Slipping on a Banana Peel Become a Comedy Staple?"
Before the discovery of its comedic potential, the banana skin was considered a real public hazard. In the mid-19th century, a man named Carl B. Frank began importing Panamanian bananas to New York City. The fruit quickly became a popular street food throughout America, but the surge in urban migration and lack of sanitation regulation posed a major problem in cities. People often tossed their garbage into the streets, leading to a general foul stench and public waste buildup....The Keaton bit (minus the ending) is the second of the 3 versions of slipping on a banana peel in this handy montage:
During the 19th century, cities relied heavily on wild pigs that roamed the streets to dispose of rotting organic matter. This method was not wholly effective. According to the book Banana: The Fate of the Fruit That Changed the World by Dan Koeppel, the banana peel epidemic in New York City was ultimately solved around the turn of the century by a public agency headed by a former Civil War colonel. Col. George Waring organized a fleet of uniformed workers, known as the “White Wings”*...
Vaudeville comedian Cal Stewart often told many banana peel jokes as his copyrighted stage persona “Uncle Josh.” A 1903 recording of the bit “Uncle Josh in a Department Store,” features many references to banana peel-laden sidewalks.
The gag first appeared on the silver screen in the Harold Lloyd silent film The Flirt. While sitting in a restaurant, Lloyd’s character diligently peels a banana then tosses the skin on the floor. A snooty waiter walks by with a full tray, slips and falls. Chaos ensues. Buster Keaton heightened the gag in his film The High Sign (1921). Walking down the street, Keaton encounters a banana peel on the sidewalk. He proceeds to walk over it, but contrary to the audience expectation, he does so totally unharmed. Keaton puts his hands to his mouth and mocks the peel, only to slip on a second peel he didn’t see.
And here's the "Mythbusters" semi-busting the myth of slipping on a banana peel:
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* "White" did not refer to skin color but to the color of the uniforms the street sweepers wore. It was chosen to keep the workers from slacking off! The idea was to make them conspicuous so they wouldn't go to saloons.
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Sometimes a banana is just a banana.
Oh for God's sake. Every time I think we've reached Peak Snowflake, somebody finds something even more mundane over which to be offended. I swear, soon everything in life will be a racial offense. I'm going to spend half my life apologizing for whatever I did in the other half.
To misquote Karl Popper, it is impossible to dispose of a banana peel in such a way that you cannot be misunderstood.
What the fuck is wrong with kids these days?
I think this absurd hypersensitivity demonstrates that it is nearly impossible for any white male or other socially acceptable target to avoid giving offense. Those who are offended are likewise empowered by their hypersensitvity and have every incentive to become even more on edge.
Those who are offended are likewise empowered by their hypersensitvity and have every incentive to become even more on edge.
Not only that, any apology, any concession merely empowers them and encourages them to search out more things to be outraged about.
The proper response is a simple, polite "Fuck You".
I'd like to think that even in college I'd tell them to f*ck off.
I do recall having to put up with a bunch of crap to get back $3.25 of my student fees from an organization promoting worldwide communism that somehow got certified by the Duke student org. I will never ever forget that tool behind the folding table harassing me.
This would have made my head explode, even at that young an age.
-XC
Whatever you do, don't go in public with a watermelon.
We know what you mean by that.
I am Laslo.
BTW the phrase "Peak Snowflake" is great
"Their misinterpretations count as real." Insofar as they can be used for progressive purposes.
Mr. Swanson's "apology" is so over the top that it says the opposite of what the words appear to say, but yet the "woke" can hardly object to it.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but a banana peel....oh wait...
They will have to find some other way to get at him for mocking them.
Gwen Stefani.
Let me hear you say, this shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
This shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
Again this shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
This shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
I can't tell if this is racist or not, but it has Gwen as a cheerleader, so I'm good.
I am Laslo.
"I don't know whom to believe here"
It's possible both are lying.
Need a "Leftwing Nonsense" tag for this one.
Anyone who is frightened by a banana peel in a tree is hopelessly lost.
That apology reads like something from the Cultural Revolution.
Apparently the Left wants Black folks to be a comedy staple. Do they really not understand the hilarity this provokes outside of their bubble?
Harpending was probably right about the belief in witchcraft. It's the only explanation that makes any sense.
So that poor guy who did nothing wrong was clearly bullied into this apologetic word salad. How absolutely disgusting. Of course it sounds like a nonapology because even the wildest stretch can't reach out and find anything wrong.
DAMNIT! Laslo stole my post.
This shit really is bananas.
I wonder if the University of Mississippi should establish a Committee for Acceptable Fruits and Vegetables under the direction of the Office of Diversity and Inclusion. Bananas seem a perilous selection for school cafeterias in these latter days. Watermelon is problematic. Cherries? I don't think so. There is no telling what other potential offense is lurking in the produce section.
I think I've reached Peak Banana.
So to speak.
It looks like snowflake baiting to me.
Where do you put a banana peel if there isn't a trash can handy? A tree or a bush seems like a logical choice. You could put it in your pocket, assuming you have one, but then you risk having some woman say, "Is that a banana peel in your pocket or do I need to contact the director of fraternity and sorority life?"
I think if I had been the one handling the complaint from the student, I would have asked where they would have put it. Then I might have had a suggestion of where I would put it.
If an ape sees a banana peel in a tree, he probably looks for other bananas.
Ridicule might begin to indicate that the black spiritual journey is over.
Hey mister tallyman tally me banana.
It's Day-O day at the Greek Retreat.
DOOM.
Ban symbolism.
I'm Chiquita banana and I've come to say - Bananas have to ripen in a certain way - When they are fleck'd with brown and have a golden hue - Bananas taste the best and are best for you - You can put them in a salad - You can put them in a pie-aye - Any way you want to eat them - It's impossible to beat them - But, bananas like the climate of the very, very tropical equator - So you should never put bananas in the refrigerator.
Try reading that apology aloud, with your tongue planted firmly in your cheek. Ryan is a huge winner here. The kid has a future in politics.
There must be a committee that writes and approves Apologies, to make sure they check all the boxes.
Edit: I should have put "apology" in quotes. He's ridiculing them. "That's no apology, that's fruit salad."
Snowflake baiter gallery: B-29 nose with bananas painted on for missions.
Bananas are a good source of potassium.
Bananas, like tomatos, are a berry.
Tank likes a banana in his protein shake. This triggered Mrs. Tank; now she wants one too.
The point of the required apology is to publicly break the guy's spirit.
This stops working if a guy strikes back in his published apology, which usually tells the student council court to fuck off.
The traditional crime covered by published apologies used to be discharging fire extinguishers in the fraternity house.
"I've never seen that banana peel before in my life!"
I'm sorry that these people are so sorry.
Probably doesnt help our governing institutions to have the people become as sensitive as this...
Bananas are the nuclear "daisy" of the vegetarian and vegan world.
Walking trees could easily slip on a banana peel and fall, becoming entangled. Spin up and spin down.
"I think this absurd hypersensitivity demonstrates that it is nearly impossible for any white male or other socially acceptable target to avoid giving offense. "
I think we should try a new approach to this serious problem. Isolate white college men and establish colleges for them only. Women and minorities should just have their own colleges where they don't have to be subjected to the infantile humor and masculine aggression of fraternity men.
Its time has come.
Spouse makes smoothies bananas. I done with those. Going back to chocolate shakes. Wait a minute. How about a vanilla shake? Forget it. I am digging myself a hole here.
They should find out who sold him that banana and go after them as well.
Nobody should profit from a racist symbol in this country. That's not who we are.
If a banana lands in a tree and no one sees it, did it really happen? It will disintegrate in a few days.
The underlying message of taking offense is that blacks are on a spiritual journey.
All they are is angry at their mother. No journey at all. Two-year-old's stuff.
If you're angry at your mother, everything is offensive.
The Arc of History looks just like a Banana. It bends toward peanut butter.
And this statue should definitely come down.
http://storage.winnipegsun.com/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1297323677119_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=420x
If you forgave your mother, that would start a spiritual journey. But pissed off is easier and it gets you attention.
@murph, completely agree. The "apology" is brilliant (and over the heads of many, including some commenters here).
I'm with Cookie.
The thing is, we know what's with them. They are competing for positional goods: most victimized sufferer, most woke ally. That's the genius of Rachel Dolezal: she gets BOTH prizes.
In general snowflakism seems like a combination of 2 dysfunctions: mass hysteria and infantilization.
The mass hysteria part is obvious. The infantilization part is just a result of the continued lengthening of childhood/adolescence and deferment of adulthood that's been going on now for the past few centuries. We're now reaching a point where childhood doesn't end until people reach there early 20s and adolescence seems to extend well into peoples middle age.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and a banana is just a banana.
(I know that was the first comment, but I wanted to get back to Freud and/or Groucho Marx.)
Universities are enrolling too many students who do not have the intelligence, knowledge or culture for university life.
Those students fail academically, so the administration's diversity administrators help them concoct excuses for their failures.
Such students are instructed to blame their failures on being made to feel unwelcome on campus because of various statues, building names, micro-aggressions, cultural appropriations, and other such trivialities.
Such students do learn such blame games, but they cannot and will not learn to read seriously. They haven't been interested in serious reading before they enrolled in the universities, and so they have no concept of serious reading.
Oh for God's sake. Every time I think we've reached Peak Snowflake, somebody finds something even more mundane over which to be offended.
That was my first reaction
The second was a massive facepalm
And....agree totally with Cook. What is wrong with these people?
I think my "apology" to the offended student would have been:
"We're peers. We are equals in every respect that matters. Why do you want to give me this level of power over you? I don't want it."
A written apology for leaving a Banana Peel in a tree? *WOW*
How about when an elected official demands a written apology for a Commentator speaking their mind at Public Comment?
“So having said that, you will not be speaking in these chambers again until I have heard an oral apology that’s suitable to me and the rest of this board,” DeGroot said. “Number two, I’m not going to hear an oral apology from you until I read a written one that has been delivered to me five business days before this board meets so I can check the credibility of it because you have had a long history of issues with the truth. Go back and sit down.”
The Bar continually moves lower - until the Public will be allowed to say nothing and every act is suspect.
http://journaltimes.com/news/local/tensions-at-village-meeting-leads-to-complaint/article_0a8d4b49-6194-541d-9e34-293217b81fd1.html
In light of renewed obsession with color diversity, it must be noted that bananas do come in more than one color. So, they are, in that respect, politically correct. I wonder if bananas can be assumed to possess individual dignity. In any case, there is a social justice cause for an Antive movement that targets yellow bananas where there is a detectable statistically significant prejudice... nay, bigotry (i.e. sanctimonious hypocrisy).
I saw a plantain peel in a shrub once, was only mildly offended.
Someone on Instapundit says hysteria is never generated for the benefit of the hysterical.
So who created, and who benefits from this?
"This is check-stand four: I need a price check on bananas…"
"You're kidding me, right?"
"Kidding you? I don't understand, sir…"
"I'm black, and you just happen to need to go on the PA and ask for a price check on bananas for the black man."
"I'm sorry, sir, but I need the price to ring you up…"
"Do you only ask about bananas when the customer is black? Is that how it is?"
"Sir, I assure you, I'm just doing my job."
"I bet you know the price of bananas for white people…"
"Excuse me for a moment, sir. -- " This is check-stand four: I also need a price check on watermelon…"
"Oh fuck no! Now you gotta announce to the store that the black man is buying watermelon, too?"
"Everyone likes watermelon, sir. I just need to get the price, that's all."
"So you've announced to the whole store that the black man is buying bananas and watermelon. You people are fucked up…"
"I'm only trying to be efficient with your purchase, sir: race has nothing to do with it."
"When you white people say race has nothing to do with it then it means race has something to do with it."
"I'm sorry -- excuse me for a moment. " This is check-stand four: I need a price check on grape soda…"
"You ARE a White Devil!"
"Sorry, sir: just doing my job…"
"Hey! You just rang up my extra-large condoms without needing a price check. I want a fucking price-check on my extra-large condoms! I want the whole fuckin' store to know the black man is buying himself some extra-large condoms! You afraid of scaring the white women?!"
"That one was in the computer, sir. .. " This is check-stand four: I need a price check on fried chicken…"
I am Laslo.
When you know that you were only allowed into the school because of the color of your skin, and that you can't do the work and you don't belong there, it's probably pretty difficult to believe that everyone else doesn't know it too.
Laslo at 10:17: Brilliant!
Early 20th century Images of banana peel slippage from the Banana Museum's "Slipping on a Banana Peel" exhibit--from a couple of decades before the movies caught on to the joke:
https://www.pinterest.com/bananamuseum/slipping-on-banana-peels/?lp=true
This has something to do with last year's Clemson Banana Horror.
Mel Brooks said something like:
Humor is when you slip on a banana peel and die
Tragedy is when I break a finger nail.
We're not gonna fall for any banana in the tailpipe
BTW, I used to like banana's but as I've gotten older I cant them. Too sweet and mushy.
University: Teaching students to see Klansmen in banana peels one course at a time.
Ann Althouse said...Anything you do might be misunderstood by someone else, perhaps by someone who deserves empathy and perhaps by someone with powerful allies who will ruin your life if you don't anticipate how they will interpret something you say or do or even how people who hate you will claim to have interpreted something that really didn't confuse them at all.
This is the problem with your nice centrist view on infinite, though selective, empathy. If it's impossible to say "that's a stupid thing to be upset over" because we have to take anyone's professed feelings (of upset-ness, of hurt, etc) seriously then there's literally no action, expression, or state of being that is "safe."
It should be a reductio ad absurdum to say "a piece of litter like a banana peel stuck on a tree is just as hurtful as a noose or a flaming cross as a symbol of racial hate," but under your standard (always take into account the self-professed feelings of everyone, always take those feelings seriously) that's instead a valid statement.
Instead of being able to say "no, that's silly, no one is harmed by something like that and anyone who claims to be harmed shouldn't be taken seriously" we have to say "well it doesn't upset ME but since it upsets YOU we all have to treat this as a serious matter and act as though the harm caused is real and should be punished."
I doubt there's anyone stupid enough not to see that this standard will be endlessly weaponized...and that events like this are entirely predictable under this standard. OF COURSE people are going to use every opportunity--no matter how seemingly trivial or stupid--to claim offense, hurt, and emotional damage for their own benefit.
Weaponized foolishness will inevitably lead to weapons used for an entirely reasonable purpose.
Why aren't there bananas in all the trees. C'mon kids, dopes ain't gonna prank themselves.
The slippery banana peel:
http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Brewster/2017-08-27/
The point here is that the peel disposer's original intentions are not relevant.
The reaction to the peel is the determining factor for the presence of racism.
Count me as another fan of that apology. The amount of snark ladled is just enough that you're not positive about its insincerity. *Applause*
Why aren't people *laughing* at the complainer in this case. "I saw a banana in a tree and immediately felt threatened" is a ridiculous statement.
If the events occurred as reported, "Frat Retreat Ends Early after Students ‘Frightened’ by a Banana Peel", this country is DOOMED!
I would say that those "traumatized" by the banana are acting like 3 year olds but 3 year olds are not woke enough to understand that they SHOULD be traumatized by a damn banana.
And what kind of wussy gives a apology to EVERYONE because a bunch of snowflakes were traumatized by a damn banana?
This story has shame aplenty to go around...
(And by people, I don't mean the commenters here, I mean the people at her University)
Hagar nailed it with his first comment. The "apology" was a brilliant parody mocking the people who were complaining about the peel.
And even if the apology was "for effect", the proper apology was and is still simply "fuck off".
Todd, that is what I would have done, but I have to be honest- it is far more effective to mock the complainers with satire. That doubt that is left about whether or not you are being mocked is something that is more difficult to deal with.
As the old song goes, "I like bananas, because they have no spines" ---or something like that.
The Empire of Borderline Personalities.
Blame the Europeans.
Their racists are known to toss bananas onto the playing field (court, ice, whatever) when a black player enters.
They're also known to make "monkey noises" for the same reason.
I hope these nasty habits stay in Europe.
"I'm really sorry you're such a stupid f*ck" would be my apology.
The interpretation of bananas... consumed by a black hole.
This is either a philosophical masterpiece or a crudely constructed piece of class diversity.
Thank goodness it wasn't an apple core.
Those frat boys wouldn't be frightened of a banana peel in a tree if they had seen the Monty Python skit explaining how to defend yourself from someone attacking you with a piece of fruit. They would have simply dropped an anvil on the tree and that would have been it.
Seriously, in my day any college student who confessed to being afraid of a banana peel in a tree would have been laughed off the face of the earth.
The horror to the snowflake isn't the banana but the presence of somebody likely not to follow the PC line.
Blogger Gahrie said...
The proper response is a simple, polite "Fuck You".
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Correct. Speak openly, and if we're accused of being something we're not, say "fuck you". It's that or not engaging. Without engaging we lose, we are the sheep.
Blogger buwaya said...
Weaponized foolishness will inevitably lead to weapons used for an entirely reasonable purpose.
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You've said that a few times before. I wonder to what extent you believe it.
"You've said that a few times before. I wonder to what extent you believe it."
I have transferred considerable investments abroad this year, hedging to the extent I can against American political unrest.
I have lost all emotional response to anything race related. That's it, done. I now assume, if you have a complaint, claim a harm, describe a slight, you're lying. Tuff. You are not getting any response from me. No sympathy, to understanding, no aide, not even a moment of attention to listen. I'm done. You're just making it up, and I no longer play.
Blacks get offended by bananas and watermelons because gorillas eat them, and those fruit remind them of much they resemble gorillas, physically and mentally. They're ashamed of themselves, but they shouldn't be; It's not their fault they lagged in evolution.
This is so cool.
In my day, bananas were evaluated purely on their phallic potential. Remember the joke abour how a Jewish American Princess eats a banana?
Now bananas have racial overtones. English soccar hooligans routinely throw them on the pitch when a rival black star appears. No explanation of what occurs when a black home favorite takes the field. He must be one of ours, so he couldn't possibly be offended.
The placement of this particular banana peel is suspicious. What could the offender have been thinking? After all, what does any fraternity brother have to do but think about how to insult black people that he doesn't even know? This just in: most white people don't think about black people at all. And they don't dispose of their banana peels with black people in mind. Give the guy a ticket for littering and move on.
This is a fruit that can wreck lives and careers!
What a stupid time to be alive.
Char Char Binks said...
9/1/17, 3:04 PM
What the hell? That is some crass, nasty, incorrect, shit right there. Not sure if you are trying to be funny or to be a so over the top caricature so as to show the in-authenticity of the original individual's taking offense but that is a fail on all fronts.
Movie idea: The Joker shuts down modern America with a few thousand banana peels.
I believe Char Char is illustrating the absurdity of the racist position. The only people who believe that shit are leftists who believe that the people they despise believe that shit.
Mr. Swanson's "apology" is so over the top that it says the opposite of what the words appear to say, but yet the "woke" can hardly object to it.
I read that and thought the same thing. Good trolling. Well done, young man.
Iowan2 wrote:
"I have lost all emotional response to anything race related. That's it, done. I now assume, if you have a complaint, claim a harm, describe a slight, you're lying. Tuff. You are not getting any response from me. No sympathy, to understanding, no aide, not even a moment of attention to listen. I'm done. You're just making it up, and I no longer play."
Same here, but I reached that point a decade ago.
"Sometimes a banana is just a banana."
Nope.
A banana is just a banana.
Always.
Every time.
The stupid reaction to these things should be physically painful. With open sores on the wounds. Salted.
Todd said...
Char Char Binks said...
Aren't we supposed to simply debate the ISSUES and not resort to personal attacks? Don't go ad hominid
"I am really sorry to discover that my fellow students are idiots afraid of their own shadows"
How's that for a non-apology? That's as far as I would go.
The Cracker Emcee Activist said...
Apparently the Left wants Black folks to be a comedy staple. Do they really not understand the hilarity this provokes outside of their bubble?
No.
Remember- bacon is also offensive and you can receive the death penalty for offending people with it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4075328/Man-jailed-leaving-bacon-sandwiched-outside-mosque-dead-prison-half-way-12-month-sentence.html The article says the sentence was for 12 months, but he was killed halfway through it- so he received death for bacon related offenses. And here's the newest publicized bacon offense making teh rounds: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/28/swedish-man-prosecuted-bacon-assault/ I'm sure tehre are other newer ones that the media is afraid to report on.
So remember, in the future, offending people with improperly disposed of banana peels could lead to death.
Nobody on that campus is actually afraid of/offended by bananas in a tree. It's ritualistic behavior by which they (believe) they will gain more political power.
It's the left wing version of a war dance.
You would think cotton would be more offensive than a banana. Oh the "white man's burden" is still a progressive idea.
Did you know bananas....grow on trees?
[*mind blown* *keanu whoa.gif*]
Char Char Binks said...
"Blacks get offended by bananas and watermelons because gorillas eat them, and those fruit remind them of much they resemble gorillas, physically and mentally. They're ashamed of themselves, but they shouldn't be; It's not their fault they lagged in evolution."
I think you've pretty much got that right, but are you *sure* gorillas eat watermelons?
Nothing is going to stop this PC madness until the next white man who supposedly causes offense to tell the snowflakes - FUCK OFF AND DIE.
Hey Char Char,
Fuck you. Fuck you and the horse you sucked off before you rode it in.
Somebody's triggered!
Rabel said...
Hey Char Char,
"Fuck you. Fuck you and the horse you sucked off before you rode it in."
Rabel, are you suggesting that there is something wrong with having oral sex with a horse? You're really dating yourself. Sex is just part of continuum of relational situations and techniques, comprising everything from wishing your horse a g'day to grappling with his mating tackle. I do agree, riding the horse implies an unequal power structure; that's just not right! But the critique assumes a darker aspect when we recognize that it was you, Rabel, who first introduced the idea of horse qua transportation device. Get help, Rabel.
And BTW, I apologize for implying that there is something wrong with dating yourself. Date anyone, or anything, you like.
In a race to the bottom in American academia, University of Mississippi just pulled into the lead.
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